u no break law, why u so sked of AES ?

sheesh....

u wan break the law, dun complain about the consequences later...

saying that 110 km/h is too slow for modern cars... in a way it is true BUT has the skills of drivers driving gone up accordingly too?
i think it is the other way.....

This post has been edited by kcng: Oct 23 2012, 12:50 PM

if i din break the law, what is there to summon me on?
and what has it got to do with rich or not ?

u break u pay..
sounds familiar?

actually, even if i put a speed limit of 10 km/h, there will still be fatality...
why?
idiocy aka ppl who think their driving skills is godlike...

why the AES is being implemented (please fark the politics for now)?
to ensure drivers like you follow the law and at the same time, hopefully reduces the chance of an accident happening...
but trust me, accident will still happen due to the reason stated above but i will repeat it again, idiocy...

so again, why do you think there is a speed limit setup for the trunk roads/highway/expressways?

case in point:
how many of you guys can pass an advanced driving course or even for the matter of fact, the malaysian-level driving course without paying tea money?
how many of you knows the basic traffic law and obey it?
how many of you knows how to properly handle a vehicle? (do you know a moving vehicle is effectively a killing machine?)

even full time professional drivers driving in a controlled environment can crash, what more a normal driver like you?

i can go into the 25% figures of the article quoted if you want....

ahaha....
good point...


i din say i am not expecting summon's right?

so the government must bend over just because u hate it la?

why focus on speeding or signalized junction first?
because it is the easiest to implement...

how many a times u see idiotic malaysian stopping in the middle of a yellow boxed intersection and thus blocking traffic flow?
how many malaysians over estimated their own godlike driving skills?
(in reference to speeding or driving in wet)

u see, they cant even read the signs saying ikut kiri kecuali memotong...
that either shows 2 things, they are dumb and cant read or they paid their way for their teh-o-ais license....

there is no enforcement, that is why malaysians are breaking the traffic laws like nobody business...
now with automated enforcement, there are force to change their way overnight and do you think it is easy unless u are already well versed with the traffic laws in the first place...

i cant ask a chain smoker to quit cold turkey right?

P/S :
do u know, u can be ticketed if your tyres are worn out overseas?
or if one of your rear lamp is not functioning? or rather if any of your driving lights is not functioning?


i need to go through my JPJ traffic book to see if there is such thing in malaysia....

how well is the average german driving skills as compared to here?
how well is their driving courses compared to here?

that will answer your questions...


P/S - do you get my points earlier?

a lower speed limit will hopefully lower the chances of accident.... <-- that is my point...
the key word here is lowering the chances of accident...

AES is not the eliminate accident completely...

Let me ask u, revamping the driving schools and education system or installing AES, which will be easier?
true for now AES is like a knee-jerk reaction, but at least hopefully it can almost immediately reduce the chance of accident happening as compared to revamping driving schools and education system that might take 1 generation or 2..

Ahah... the road block on motors... i got no comments on that as i dont ride a capchai...
but what i know is, even with motorcycle lanes, those banes of the public will still ride on the car lanes...

dude, speed limit enforcement is to, again i repeat, hopefully reduces the chance of accident... reduces the chance... not eliminate... when the chances of accident is reduces, won't it technically be safer?

u think straight, clear road people cannot accident ar? u are so mistaken if you think that...
(of course this might be open to debate why there is speed traps there, to collect money for big G or as a deterrent/education , its up to your own interpretation. But come to think of it, straight road is where most drivers like you know how to put the power down instead of in corners ... so isn't straight road a better location to deter most drivers from speeding and to just blardy obey the speed limit? )

The location of AES camera is determined by MiROS (and maybe a few other agencies, not sure on this). You would have to contact them for data on those "black spots".

did u miss my point where i say the driving syllabus in germany is like much better then what we have here?
in germany, i believe part of the driving syllabus will be on what is oversteer and how to counter it and stuffs like that...
in malaysia, what we have is the laughable naik bukit, parallel parking and the ronda around the taman road test... and that too we have so many people failing...
imagine if understeer, oversteer etc is part of the syllabus?
95% of the drivers on the road now will fail straight...

a simple example of increased speed, the chance of accident will increase

coming to a complete stop at a higher speed requires longer distance, its a fact...

or sudden swerve of the vehicle at 110 km/h and 160 km/h..
at which speed will be easier to control?

i got no on paper data on this (sorry) but this is based on common sense and some physics...

why is the camera installed on wide flat straight road with low speed limit?
where else will be the best to setup the camera if not on wide flat road where most malaysian knows how to step on it?
it is to hopefully "train" the drivers to obey the speed limit and hopefully will lead the drivers to obey all the other traffic law (like not stopping in the middle of a yellow box and such). think of this as an education.
after all (i repeat again), going over the speed limit is the most broken law in malaysia. by attacking the speed limit first, hopefully it will educate the malaysian drivers to follow the law...
the next favorite law to break for malaysia is the race against the traffic light aka u see the light turning red and u step on it...

i am all for AES....
no more cowboy style for them everytime they get behind the wheels...

now is the time for, u break the law, u freaking pay up...
end of story...

because i say, it is much easier to break the law at a straight wide road then at the corners as many people only know how to put their foot down on staights...

tell me how many people can speed in corners in malaysia?
chances are 95% of the drivers will end up in the ditch when they maintain the same speed on the straight thru the corners...
because it is a corner and they will slow down...
btw your definition of corners and mine might and probably will differ....


but frankly how many corners is long enough (as compared to straights) to put a camera there?

did u not get the point where i say speeding is easily the most broken law here in this country and by installing cameras at straight, wide open road, people can be cowed into following the law and hence hopefully be educated to follow traffic law? (and hopefully this will trickle down to other traffic law also)
education... key word here...

how about a 7 year old porsche braking distance compared to a brand new porsche?
or how heavy is a porsche compared to a kancil?
what if the kancil has brand new brakes and tyres and the porsche brake pad is finished and the tyres is bald?
physics law applies here...
(i rather not specify vehicle model but just state it as a vehicle)

do u also know that if a driver know how to use the brake properly, they can bring their vehicle speed down much faster?
but then again, did they teach u how to brake in driving school in malaysia?
i am sure also with your germany driving license, u should know what is the difference between the syllabus there and here...


aha, finally u decided to use the make money thingy... (i already say please fark the politics for now)
since u already know the location of AES camera, even if the speed limit is "ridiculously low" to your standard, why cant u just maintain that "ridiculously low" speed for 1-2 km... and then after that speed up again?
how many million ringgit in business u gonna lose by slowing down for 1-2 km? or how much time you gonna lose if u slow down for 1-2 km?
u dun wan to give money to those cronies, lower your speed at the camera's location...
solution is easy right and just located on your right foot...
no, malaysian choose to still make noise about it...
i just cant brain them...

This post has been edited by kcng: Oct 27 2012, 08:25 AM

dude, are u blind to the fact that what i am saying so far is for education purposes?
and i have been trying to get the idea across to you, yet you are still oblivious to it...

did i say AES can solve the driving syllabus issue we have in this country?
i am saying AES is a measure that can at least try to reduce the number/chances of accident happening (hopefully with the fastest results)/trying to instantly educate the nonsense drivers we have now in the short term while the entire driving system/syllabus/whatever is revamped to produce better drivers in the future (that might take another 2-3 generation, i think)

i have stated before already...
and if i am to repeat it again, i dunno, u tell me, u have problem reading or understanding?

the bolded part
- again let me tell u, it is to educated people to respect the speed limit (aka law) because in a wide straight road is where drivers like you can only step on it and speed limit is the num 1 broken law in this cowboy country...

if u still cant get the idea or the bigger picture of it, then that is just too bad...

i mention about slowing down for 1-2 km is because it is for people like u... get it?
or rather do u get the context of what i meant by that?

people who want to speed/break the law yet dont want to pay up...
so why can't you just slow down at the enforcement area and then speed up again...
no, u people want to just speed all the way...

dude, i think you are so disillusioned that your statements become a line by line attack instead of the context here....
can see that you are slowing swaying out side the main context here....

i mentioned many times about the education part already.... and there is no point for me to repeat it again to someone who just don't get it...

dude, u keep running around towards your own goal....
there is a bigger picture that you cant see if you are 1 feet away, take a few steps back and you can see clearer...

once u go over the specified speed limit, u are a law breaker...

so yes, most (if not all) of the drivers are law breakers here...

the way malaysians like you drives on the road... what is the different between that and a cowboy country?

what speed limit implementation is there to argue about?
the speed limit for the implemented stretch has been around even before the AES camera is deployed... but people do not follow the displayed speed limit...
so now when the same stretch has camera deployed... hah... baru la nak bising...

cold hard facts about AES detector app?
go ahead, like i care how many apps are there out there for AES...
even if u are using one, its none of my business anyway...
i break the law, i pay... end of story... don't want to pay, follow the law la...
what is so hard about this that most malaysians like you cant seem to understand?

arghhhhh...



nvm la...
i take my leave la...