he got it from khcycle. bikepro haz 25mm too

dun lie...

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Added on November 14, 2012, 10:24 amohhh... didn't see it when i was there...

it'll be my alternative choice if my el-cheapo one in rodalink runs out...

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Added on November 14, 2012, 10:32 amsave the money from upgrades and you can have an even dreamier bike when you are back...

for the lack of illustration...

you'll be upgraded from a george clooney


to a mcdreamy


comparing HED with Zipp or even the Paul Lew designed Reynolds or Simon Smart Enve wheels is like comparing Fuji apples to Granny Smith apples... they are all apples... maybe one is crunchier or sweeter than the other by a bit...

aero wheels are never only about slicing wind nowadays... they have made it more complicated by measuring aero efficiency at yaw angels, dirty turbulent wind left by the wheels and how it affects your aero downtube and many other crazy factors...

so... HED or Zipp??? up to you... i guess Zipp is more commonly available as a mass marketed product hence you see more of it...HED or Enve smart wheels are not seen a lot over here but the good thing about HED stingers and Smart Enve is you can pair them up with what you like... so can Zipp rims... but only if the zipp shops bring them in...

to add on other than aero... zipp has a more complete package as a wheel with it's famed 88 / 188 hubs with it's perfectly rounded ball swiss steel bearings with teflon retainer with the option to go ceramics if you can splurge...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 14 2012, 10:32 AM

zipp hubs are durable? i read many negative comments about them

??

i think it's fair to say that no lightweight hubs are ever going to be durable... it's mostly the freehub that srews up most of the time and it's a bomb to replace it...think it's a cool RM1k to replace it...


same goes for fulcrums...even chris king R45's are not going to be durable if you don't service it with their ringlube once in a while...

if durability is a concern... get some shimano dura ace hubs and don't gripe about the weight...


even if the freehub does not screw up epically... you have problems dealing with the aluminum freehub body after a period of time where the cassette will start chewing into the spines...it's a known problem for many aluminum freehub designs...

bearings is the least of concerns at this point unless it's the one within the freehub seizing up...i've seen some bent axles as well, but also not a big concern...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 14 2012, 11:28 AM

arr... i didnt own this bike... and dont think i can afford it (dunno how much also... although is ALu frame)

1k for freehub body? wah.... crap shit n cry hungary

i think so lar... i saw before big price tag.. maybe after discount.. RM900 li tat...

oh la la....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KSYRIUM-SL-SSC-ES-...=item35bf85a9c6

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HUBDOCTOR-PRO-...=item4d06dd4227

itu bearing tak boleh... pasti tipu mya...

ceramic must buy the best...ceramic speed...

full kit for front and rear hubs.. you'll go from oh la la to fulamak...
http://www.amazon.com/CeramicSpeed-Wheel-U...m/dp/B004XITRL8
http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Ceramic-Speed-W...=item20c86a67fc

give terry from creative mill a call... i think he can hook you up with some CS BB and pulleys... might save you a couple of watts here and there...
http://ceramicspeed.com/sport/products/

fulcrum pun adak... mr.jgx
http://shop.ceramicspeed.com/products/133-...pgrade-kit.aspx

mavic kits... fulamak...300 euros
http://shop.ceramicspeed.com/products/132-...grade-kits.aspx

zipp is a ball breaker @ 600 euros...
http://shop.ceramicspeed.com/products/141-...its-coated.aspx

muahahhahahaha.... ~~evil laughter

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 14 2012, 01:34 PM

wahlaueh..... mahal betul.... what about this?

http://www.hscceramics.com.au/HSC-Bike-Cer...lset-Mavic.html

hard to say lar....

ceramic bearings cannot cincai choose one as far as i've read before...

on one end of the choosing part is how smooth and round the balls is (mind the pun, not meaning anything dirty here... serious talk).. which is where ceramic excels and shaping rounder balls is easier with ceramic than any metal...it is also quite hard to wear ceramic balls down as well as it is harder to cause abrasion to the balls where contaminant enters the bearing compared to steel balls...

on the other end... the bearing races will have to fully complement the ceramic balls... this means that the races have to be hardened up to sustain the ceramic balls or the races wear out prematurely...

i think there are some manufacturers that makes ceramic races as well... but, not sure about it as i read that the races are still better off made of steel... can't remember why... but it needs harder steel than the ones meant for ceramic balls, that's for sure...ceramic races is something like this


then there is the retainer where some companies choose to use balls all around with no retainer while some uses a PTFE or teflon retainer to guide the balls around...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 14 2012, 02:07 PM

wah... choices... check out HSC specs and compare with ceramic speed. almost the same. grade 3 bearings, abec 7 race

worth a try for that price difference...

but then again, ceramics is ranked the lowest in the performance parts upgrade

http://www.biketechreview.com/reviews/fram...-speed-for-sale

i just need the freehub body once my nylon bushing wears out

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Nov 14 2012, 02:27 PM

it's because it does practically almost nothing but requires the price of an arm and a leg...

it is only for the people who has everything and has nothing else better to upgrade...much like changing titanium bolts...

Tried the DA9000 in my lbs mounted on TIME ZXRS side by side with DA7900

-Hood is more or less the same as DI2 ones, not my cup of tea as i somewhat used to the previous generation hood with spacer.

-Shifting wise among this 2 I can said it much more lighter feel for 9000 on rear and on the front. Dont really need to excert as much as DA7900 and my 105 groppo.

-The crankset looks good to me, some ppl said it look not symetrical or what but one crankset for all chainrings.

i wonder if the crankset compatible with 10s 7900

Ialready have ceramic bearing ler..USB and carbon hub for the FR0

I would be benefitial from it

eh i oso got USB lah