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post Jul 29 2012, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jul 29 2012, 08:34 PM)
I am public transport user. I also have driving licence, I do drive too.
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I hope we can have CRT too... Cyclist Rapid Transit for those who like to ride bicycle biggrin.gif
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post Jul 29 2012, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jul 29 2012, 08:34 PM)
I am public transport user. I also have driving licence, I do drive too.
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Like I said nothing personal, BUT I am more concern to who is really benefiting from this project? Can they be transparent in the costing of the project?

I am a public transport user too but I think public transport service here is not efficient. Projects will be completed as to whether public like it or not cause some people already got richer but where is the efficiency?

All I want is to travel on time, without a burn in my pocket, and reach safely even in the wee hours in the day.
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post Jul 29 2012, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(insider @ Jul 29 2012, 08:44 PM)
Like I said nothing personal, BUT I am more concern to who is really benefiting from this project? Can they be transparent in the costing of the project?

I am a public transport user too but I think public transport service here is not efficient. Projects will be completed as to whether public like it or not cause some people already got richer but where is the efficiency?

All I want is to travel on time, without a burn in my pocket, and reach safely even in the wee hours in the day.
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It is too early to comment on cost when the full brief is not even being mentioned yet.

However, it is evident many buses travelling on congested Federal Highway had its average speed being reduced due to congestion.

Fair to argue about effectiveness, but to argue on cost is premature, because we don't even know the cost yet.

The first BRT won't be in federal highway, but in Bdr Sunway.

Its effectiveness will serve as test bed for BRT for the rest of Klang Valley.

BRT is unique in the sense of bus designated as BRT buses can use and operate on the line. Enforcement can be done real time as there is central command centre, just like LRT line.

In the case of Sunway BRT (6 km long), there would be 15 buses just to serve one line.
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post Jul 29 2012, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(unig @ Jul 29 2012, 08:43 PM)
I hope we can have CRT too... Cyclist Rapid Transit for those who like to ride bicycle biggrin.gif
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I'd support you too. Even though my workplace is >15km from home. Some party would need to provide some changing/bathing facilities, however. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jul 29 2012, 09:33 PM)
I'd support you too. Even though my workplace is >15km from home. Some party would need to provide some changing/bathing facilities, however. biggrin.gif
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so can I be the new transport ambassador replacing kampung now? biggrin.gif
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if only the bus driver "behave". If like metro bus, waiting passengers too long, then that kind of concept will fail.

U can see example like that (sort of) beside Sogo.
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And also, how to make sure other drivers stay away from the bus lane?

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post Jul 30 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(thienzieyung @ Jul 30 2012, 01:10 PM)
And also, how to make sure other drivers stay away from the bus lane?
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If it is run as BRT, then the enforcement will be a lot stricter, as there will be a central command centre just like LRT line.

An example in Transmilenio BRT system in Colombia.

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Secondly, stone barrier. As in Transjakarta.

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BRT is operationally different from a normal bus lane, because:

A) Only BRT buses allowed to operate on line, not regular bus, so this is just like a rail line

B) Stations are same as LRT, as in air-conditioned

C) Ticketing system is pre-paid before you board, just like LRT

D) BRT line has command centre, for better enforcement, just like LRT line too

Jakarta has even worse traffic mentality, yet they have been running BRT for many years wink.gif

Many people still do not know the concept of BRT (bus rapid transit), which is completely different from a normal bus lane. smile.gif

In Nigeria, even army officers had been fined for misusing the lane.

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QUOTE(instantgeneve @ Jul 29 2012, 07:55 PM)
car road users will end up using the bus lanes smile.gif (in bolehland, malaysia)
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no worries, i'll try to propose cctv system with automated summon system to catch ppl double parking, using bus lane, cutting queues and etc. More revenue for the country income too.
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QUOTE(marumaru @ Jul 30 2012, 01:28 PM)
no worries, i'll try to propose cctv system with automated summon system to catch ppl double parking, using bus lane, cutting queues and etc. More revenue for the country income too.
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post Jul 30 2012, 01:39 PM

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This BRT will affect users of LDP big time!
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I somewhat doubt they will have a solid plan to implement this.

Even if they do, with the idiotic way malaysia plans their construction, they will cause the federal highway to jam for 3 years while the construction of the BRT is on the way.

The stupid new proposed LRT already causing roads to change from 3 lane to 2 lanes.

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 30 2012, 01:39 PM)
This BRT will affect users of LDP big time!
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LDP users will have the option of taking LRT extension, which mostly parallels LDP alignment.

At the same time, the BRT network of KL will be very extensive.

At least 12 BRT lines, coupled with 3 MRT lines and proposed third LRT line, with extra buses, will certainly make public transport a more viable option.

Besides, if you have BRT line, you speed up buses which has higher carrying capacity, making buses more reliable and frequent plus buses no longer have to occupy all lanes of the highway.

Mind set has to change.
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QUOTE(omnimech @ Jul 30 2012, 01:40 PM)
I somewhat doubt they will have a solid plan to implement this.

Even if they do, with the idiotic way malaysia plans their construction, they will cause the federal highway to jam for 3 years while the construction of the BRT is on the way.

The stupid new proposed LRT already causing roads to change from 3 lane to 2 lanes.
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By the end, you will get LRT that will cater 500,000 people.

Inside USJ, there will be elevated BRT too.

Maybe they could have done road expansion earlier, but I doubt it can be done in USJ, where there is lack of space for that.

Elevated work shall end by next year. Then the rest should be track laying.

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jul 30 2012, 01:42 PM)
LDP users will have the option of taking LRT extension, which mostly parallels LDP alignment.

At the same time, the BRT network of KL will be very extensive.

At least 12 BRT lines, coupled with 3 MRT lines and proposed third LRT line, with extra buses, will certainly make public transport a more viable option.

Besides, if you have BRT line, you speed up buses which has higher carrying capacity, making buses more reliable and frequent plus buses no longer have to occupy all lanes of the highway.

Mind set has to change.
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BRT can only be implemented after LRT is ready right? They can't do it now as it will stop everything!
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post Jul 30 2012, 01:49 PM

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I went to Brisbane recently .They got this stuff since a couple of years back very organized as at the tail of the suburbs there are bus lanes on the highways connecting to the CBD =)
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jul 30 2012, 01:45 PM)
By the end, you will get LRT that will cater 500,000 people.

Inside USJ, there will be elevated BRT too.

Maybe they could have done road expansion earlier, but I doubt it can be done in USJ, where there is lack of space for that.

Elevated work shall end by next year. Then the rest should be track laying.
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What I meant is, they should have more of an overall solution planned rather than 1 project at a time.

If the construction is already on the way, wouldnt it make sense to expand the number of lanes on our highways as well ?

Look at the bigger picture rather than just the LRT.

No doubt, the LRT will help congestion and the BRT as well, but it wouldnt hurt to fix up the roads and highways as well ?

Its more of a lifestyle choice rather than being forced into it.

Singapore is literally a douche bag with its excessive COE tax to even buy a car.

It is indeed sometimes a better option to take a car rather than the lrt, and it even applies in Singapore which has an excellent public transportation system in place.

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