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hercules899
post Oct 29 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(shahrul123 @ Oct 29 2013, 11:49 AM)
Age:25
Job Title : mechanical engineer
Years spent in company : 2 years
Company : computer device developer
company : sdn bhd
Industry : r&d
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : junior exec
Experience before joining : join as fresh grad
salary : RM2600
allowance  : no

based on experience, am I underpaid??
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Not really that underpay but your salary is quite low, based on a famous salary guide published yearly , an engineer with a degree should earn at least RM 3.5 k after 3 years .
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post Oct 29 2013, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(hercules899 @ Oct 29 2013, 07:59 PM)
Not really that underpay but your salary is quite low, based on a famous salary guide published yearly , an engineer with a degree should earn at least RM 3.5 k after 3 years .
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I think 2.6k and 3.5k is a big difference, we are not talking 24.1k vs 25k here. smile.gif
To me, the company is underpaying him. Totally.
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post Oct 30 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(shahrul123 @ Oct 29 2013, 11:49 AM)
Age:25
Job Title : mechanical engineer
Years spent in company : 2 years
Company : computer device developer
company : sdn bhd
Industry : r&d
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : junior exec
Experience before joining : join as fresh grad
salary : RM2600
allowance  : no

based on experience, am I underpaid??
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yes, consider under paid.


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post Oct 30 2013, 02:11 PM

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Job Title : IT Executive
Years spent in company : 6 years
Company: MNC German based
Industry : freight forwarding and logistics
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : exec
Experience before joining : join as fresh grad
salary : RM2700
allowance : 300

This post has been edited by gracepoon: Oct 30 2013, 02:12 PM
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post Oct 30 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(gracepoon @ Oct 30 2013, 02:11 PM)
Age:29
Job Title : IT Executive
Years spent in company : 6 years
Industry : freight forwarding and logistics
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : exec
Experience before joining : join as fresh grad
salary : RM2700
allowance  : 300
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6 years with the company and they are still paying you about 3k per month? not sure bout your paper qualification but to me, it's time to move on.
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post Oct 30 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 30 2013, 02:12 PM)
6 years with the company and they are still paying you about 3k per month? not sure bout your paper qualification but to me, it's time to move on.
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yes, tat's y i had moved on, just to share and see the response, had moved on since 3 years ago, and now i got additional 1k to spend. glad i made the right move.

but, those years are the learning years for me, learned a lot there smile.gif

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post Oct 30 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(gracepoon @ Oct 30 2013, 02:30 PM)
yes, tat's y i had moved on, just to share and see the response, had moved on since 3 years ago, and now i got additional 1k to spend. glad i made the right move.

but, those years are the learning years for me, learned a lot there smile.gif
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post more when you find new one.

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post Oct 31 2013, 02:21 PM

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Company : Local
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Experience before joining : 4 yrs experience with prof. certification
salary : RM5.5
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post Nov 3 2013, 12:54 PM

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Age:22
Job title:accounts assistant
Job description:data entry,filing,assist in tax analysis
Years spend in company:less than 1 month
Company:subsidiary of a large pan Asia company
Industry:Retail
Tenure:3 month probation for now,after 3 months if all ok Permanent
Employment Level:entry level
Experience before joining:join as fresh grad
Salary: RM1.5 (will be revised after 3 months probation)
Allowance:nothing for those under probation

is this the current market rate?
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post Nov 3 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Nov 3 2013, 12:54 PM)
Age:22
Job title:accounts assistant
Job description:data entry,filing,assist in tax analysis
Years spend in company:less than 1 month
Company:subsidiary of a large pan Asia company
Industry:Retail
Tenure:3 month probation for now,after 3 months if all ok Permanent
Employment Level:entry level
Experience before joining:join as fresh grad
Salary: RM1.5 (will be revised after 3 months probation)
Allowance:nothing for those under probation

is this the current market rate?
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In KL? Qualifications?
If in KL and a Degree holder, truly underpaid.
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post Nov 3 2013, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 3 2013, 01:03 PM)
In KL? Qualifications?
If in KL and a Degree holder, truly underpaid.
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yes KL.qualifications degree in accounting & finance
ok noted.rather than be accused of choosy/malas,any job will do for now,while i find another 'greener pasture' within that company or elsewhere
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post Nov 3 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Nov 3 2013, 12:54 PM)
Age:22
Job title:accounts assistant
Job description:data entry,filing,assist in tax analysis
Years spend in company:less than 1 month
Company:subsidiary of a large pan Asia company
Industry:Retail
Tenure:3 month probation for now,after 3 months if all ok Permanent
Employment Level:entry level
Experience before joining:join as fresh grad
Salary: RM1.5 (will be revised after 3 months probation)
Allowance:nothing for those under probation

is this the current market rate?
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at time i really cannot understand how can a degree holder accept job < 2.5k. THis is definitely super under paid.
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post Nov 3 2013, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Nov 3 2013, 02:22 PM)
at time i really cannot understand how can a degree holder accept job < 2.5k. THis is definitely super under paid.
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better than doing nothing,earning 0.better to earn some $ for teh tarik and starbucks lol



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post Nov 3 2013, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Nov 3 2013, 02:10 PM)
yes KL.qualifications degree in accounting & finance
ok noted.rather than be accused of choosy/malas,any job will do for now,while i find another 'greener pasture' within that company or elsewhere
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You could get better elsewhere. Really.
Anything below RM 2k is totally unacceptable for KL these days...

When I just graduated and was offered with RM 2.8k, that was in Jan 2010 and I have a Degree in HR. smile.gif
You need to start looking around, I'm not sure how can you survive or save from RM 1.5k?
Unless you are telling me after probation, they are going to give you 100% increment which is RM 3k. Then, probably still can consider.

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post Nov 3 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 3 2013, 02:34 PM)
You could get better elsewhere. Really.
Anything below RM 2k is totally unacceptable for KL these days...

When I just graduated and was offered with RM 2.8k, that was in Jan 2010 and I have a Degree in HR. smile.gif
You need to start looking around, I'm not sure how can you survive or save from RM 1.5k?
Unless you are telling me after probation, they are going to give you 100% increment which is RM 3k. Then, probably still can consider.
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yeah true dat.
im always looking around,but if my workload is too heavy for now,i wouldnt be able to concentrate on my professional accounting qualification exams
there is this malay proverb ''bersusah-susah dahulu,bersenang2 kemudian'' (english translation suffer 1st,enjoy in the future.later) which is suitable to describe my salary/monetary situation now

let see in a month time.mathematically i should be able to save around $50-100 after deducting all expenses.another thing is i dont have a car for the time being,so i save on petrol,toll,parking,installment,insurance,etc that is associated with car. that keeps me staying afloat for now
yesterday saw a car expo,for a 84k car the insurance is 2k,how insane is the insurance rate now! shakehead.gif
i suppose myvi insurance would also be in the range of 800-1000? hmm.gif

not going to happen! the max payscale for this position is only 2k.only the next level max payscale is 3.5k

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post Nov 3 2013, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Nov 3 2013, 03:27 PM)
yeah true dat.
im always looking around,but if my workload is too heavy for now,i wouldnt be able to concentrate on my professional accounting qualification exams
there is this malay proverb ''bersusah-susah dahulu,bersenang2 kemudian'' (english translation suffer 1st,enjoy in the future.later) which is suitable to describe my salary/monetary situation now

let see in a month time.mathematically i should be able to save around $50-100 after deducting all expenses.another thing is i dont have a car for the time being,so i save on petrol,toll,parking,installment,insurance,etc that is associated with car. that keeps me staying afloat for now
yesterday saw a car expo,for a 84k car the insurance is 2k,how insane is the insurance rate now! shakehead.gif
i suppose myvi insurance would also be in the range of 800-1000? hmm.gif

not going to happen! the max payscale for this position is only 2k.only the next level max payscale is 3.5k
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You don't need to bersusah-susah with such a low pay. Bersusah-susah here means, you learn as much as you can for you to climb higher, not that you earn lower and expect it to be much higher later. Of course you can but you will need longer time compared to others.
To be honest, if your starting salary is low, you cannot expect higher leap in your next job. Unless you meet an employer who pays you what you deserved for. smile.gif

All the best.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Nov 3 2013, 05:43 PM
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post Nov 3 2013, 08:10 PM

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Job: Electrical Project Engineer (building construction)
Current salary:RM4500
Benefit: Misc claim (petrol, toll, car service)
Experience: 4 years bef joining current company
Duration in current company: 2 and half months
After probation might have increment and bonus during new year, company car after around 1 year.

Pros: work is flexible, report directly under boss.
Cons: chinese base company, hard to get promotion, too free and no stress at the moment.

New job offers:

1) Korean based MNC, RM5000-RM5500 basic, other benefit dont know yet. ( not yet discuss)

Pros: can learn a lot and built up profile. Maybe got chance of promotion in future, mega project.

cons: work like no tomorrow, stress maximum

2) Singapore local chinese company.
Salary: SGD 3300, after 3 months probation then 3.5k sgd
Cons: local company compare to korea mnc company, away from home land.
Pro: can learn tecnical n gain more experience. Higher standard of living in sg, possible to get a PR, can have saving for future.

Any comments? Thanks in advance.

I must get myself ready and prepare myself, I target when I m age 30, I will be in management level. (assistant project manager or project manager)

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post Nov 3 2013, 10:31 PM

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Age: 27
Job: Electrical Project Engineer (building construction)
Current salary:RM4500
Benefit: Misc claim (petrol, toll, car service)
Experience: 4 years bef joining current company
Duration in current company: 2 and half months
After probation might have increment and bonus during new year, company car after around 1 year.

Pros: work is flexible, report directly under boss.
Cons: chinese base company, hard to get promotion, too free and no stress at the moment.

New job offers:

1) Korean based MNC, RM5000-RM5500 basic, other benefit dont know yet. ( not yet discuss)

Pros: can learn a lot and built up profile. Maybe got chance of promotion in future, mega project.

cons: work like no tomorrow, stress maximum

2) Singapore local chinese company.
Salary: SGD 3300, after 3 months probation then 3.5k sgd
Cons: local company compare to korea mnc company, away from home land.
Pro: can learn tecnical n gain more experience. Higher standard of living in sg, possible to get a PR, can have saving for future.

Any comments? Thanks in advance.

I must get myself ready and prepare myself, I target when I m age 30, I will be in management level. (assistant project manager or project manager)
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For engineering I guess the salary wise should be around there..

1) Korean Based at least RM6000

2) Singapore LOCAL chinese company.. at least SGD4000, DO NOT accept offer lower than that
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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Nov 3 2013, 03:27 PM)
yeah true dat.
im always looking around,but if my workload is too heavy for now,i wouldnt be able to concentrate on my professional accounting qualification exams
there is this malay proverb ''bersusah-susah dahulu,bersenang2 kemudian'' (english translation suffer 1st,enjoy in the future.later) which is suitable to describe my salary/monetary situation now

let see in a month time.mathematically i should be able to save around $50-100 after deducting all expenses.another thing is i dont have a car for the time being,so i save on petrol,toll,parking,installment,insurance,etc that is associated with car. that keeps me staying afloat for now
yesterday saw a car expo,for a 84k car the insurance is 2k,how insane is the insurance rate now! shakehead.gif
i suppose myvi insurance would also be in the range of 800-1000? hmm.gif

not going to happen! the max payscale for this position is only 2k.only the next level max payscale is 3.5k
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If you are in need of money, I understand to that.

But with such low pay of a mere RM1500 for a fresh degree is an exploitation by the company.


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post Nov 4 2013, 11:19 AM

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Job Description : design, simulation
Academic Level : Degree
Years spent in company : 1 month
Company : GLC company
Industry : Automotive
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Entry level
Experience before joining : Fresh Grad
Salary : RM3000


Please advice... smile.gif

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