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 LYN Proton Wira Club (LYN-PWC) V-XXVIII, Wira 4ever.....

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nelsonlye
post Sep 10 2012, 02:20 PM

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U want performance yet don't wan reduce comfort...then just stick back to stock suspension.
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post Sep 10 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Sep 10 2012, 02:20 PM)
U want performance yet don't wan reduce comfort...then just stick back to stock suspension.
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sorry, u misunderstood. i clearly understand the sacrifice in reduced comfort for stiffer ride. but hopefully not too badly.
currently the stock setup makes the car wobbly even when overtaking, so its kinda bad. thanks

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nelsonlye
post Sep 10 2012, 02:44 PM

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go for Titan if you got budget.
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post Sep 10 2012, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Sep 10 2012, 11:16 AM)
drive shaft kong already.
planning to change both sides, new DS (not recond one!) only comes from CHina now, there's one brand name GSP, so looks like I'm going to settle for that.

also, changing DS oil seal, I heard there are different kind varies from premium quality to soso quality. the most common one is NOK, below RM10, however I was introduced to another type, cost near to RM20 one pcs (ex workmanship), not really sure which one to take up.
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Bro, mind to share how much you're quoted for the GSP Driveshaft for each side?... biggrin.gif
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post Sep 10 2012, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(SinS @ Sep 10 2012, 05:06 PM)
Bro, mind to share how much you're quoted for the GSP Driveshaft for each side?... biggrin.gif
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Both sides, same price RM150 each. Bought from spare part shop excluding installation.
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post Sep 10 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Sep 10 2012, 06:59 PM)
Both sides, same price RM150 each. Bought from spare part shop excluding  installation.
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Price seems reasonable to me... thumbup.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(SinS @ Sep 10 2012, 11:06 PM)
Price seems reasonable to me... thumbup.gif
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workshop will quote you 180 to 220, but please make sure they get new DS for you, there are quite a few brands according to my 4man friend, there are also re-cond type outside, they change the joint and use back the rod, to me, it's waste of time, energy and money.
Make sure your workshop won't do this.
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post Sep 11 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Sep 11 2012, 11:08 AM)
workshop will quote you 180 to 220, but please make sure they get new DS for you, there are quite a few brands according to my 4man friend, there are also re-cond type outside, they change the joint and use back the rod, to me, it's waste of time, energy and money.
Make sure your workshop won't do this.
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How to know if its a new DS?...is it seal in box?...
I'm leaning towards to new DS than re-cond type...which brand is better?..
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post Sep 11 2012, 01:03 PM

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Anyone using A-FPR here? Mind to share what is the pressure (psi/bar) you are running at?
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post Sep 11 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(SinS @ Sep 10 2012, 11:06 PM)
Price seems reasonable to me... thumbup.gif
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Yeah..the price is so reasonable thumbup.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 02:10 PM

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yesterday sent my wira to service oil leaks and aircond pulley

can sifu here see whether i got kena potong kepala anot :

power steering oil change - RM120
Valve cover gasket - RM25
Distributor oil seal - RM65
labour for oil change - rm5
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total rm215
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aircond fan motor - rm195
recond aircond clutch pulley - rm60
shaft Bearing - rm18
clutch coil - rm68
fan belt - rm10
aircond gas and labour - rm25
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total rm370
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grand total - rm585 rclxub.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Sep 11 2012, 01:03 PM)
Anyone using A-FPR here? Mind to share what is the pressure (psi/bar) you are running at?
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4G92 SOHC

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post Sep 11 2012, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(SinS @ Sep 11 2012, 11:51 AM)
How to know if its a new DS?...is it seal in box?...
I'm leaning towards to new DS than re-cond type...which brand is better?..
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the damaged DS have been removed from my car, 4man said looks like not re-cond type, but brand remain unknown.
ermmm, I don't really know how to differentiate, but I spotted word of GSP"" was engraved on the new DS, also it comes in box packed by GSP blue box.

I don't really know other brand, just judging by the website, hearsay of the seller, warranty provided, GSP should not be the worst one considered we don't have many reliable choices for Wira driveshaft sweat.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(jay @ Sep 11 2012, 02:10 PM)
yesterday sent my wira to service oil leaks and aircond pulley

can sifu here see whether i got kena potong kepala anot :

power steering oil change - RM120
Valve cover gasket - RM25
Distributor oil seal - RM65
labour for oil change - rm5
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total rm215
======================
aircond fan motor - rm195
recond aircond clutch pulley - rm60
shaft Bearing - rm18
clutch coil - rm68
fan belt - rm10
aircond gas and labour - rm25
----------------------------------------
total rm370
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grand total - rm585  rclxub.gif
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what power steering oil you using that cost RM120?! shocking.gif
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post Sep 11 2012, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(shiyau @ Sep 11 2012, 07:26 PM)
what power steering oil you using that cost RM120?!  shocking.gif
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duno but the foreman say he will clean the whole steering system with machine, i kena potong ady?? cry.gif
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QUOTE(GKWong @ Sep 11 2012, 01:03 PM)
Anyone using A-FPR here? Mind to share what is the pressure (psi/bar) you are running at?
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Mine still stock fuel pressure regulator, don't need it because the management can tune the fueling
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post Sep 11 2012, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(nelsonlye @ Sep 11 2012, 05:39 PM)
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this is around the stock pressure rite?
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post Sep 12 2012, 04:31 AM

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This is quite weird, I realize when I self adjust the valve timing and ignition timing through adjustable cam gear and distributor that I will not get the final result immediately until I take the car out to the high way for a cruise, then only it will become much responsive and powerful, the clacking sound from engine when I tap the throttle after tuning disappears and engine becomes quiet. Is it because the ECU not getting used to the fresh settings yet? Therefore unable to inject the correct amount of fuel?
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post Sep 12 2012, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(GKWong @ Sep 11 2012, 09:18 PM)
this is around the stock pressure rite?
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stock pressure about 2.5 to 3 bar.... you will need FPR ONLY IF your car AFR at high rev lean or insufficient... for low rev if u need to manipulate the AFR, it is not a good example to play with FPR because you will screw the rest settings unless you have management to manage injection pulse. Fuel pump replacement will be done when pressure insufficient at desired target.


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QUOTE(IamRacist @ Sep 12 2012, 04:31 AM)
This is quite weird, I realize when I self adjust the valve timing and ignition timing through adjustable cam gear and distributor that I will not get the final result immediately until I take the car out to the high way for a cruise, then only it will become much responsive and powerful, the clacking sound from engine when I tap the throttle after tuning disappears and engine becomes quiet. Is it because the ECU not getting used to the fresh settings yet? Therefore unable to inject the correct amount of fuel?
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The ecu u using is just a normal ecu which have high and low octane table... it do not need to learn except stepper motor and 4AT tranny only. Always remember when u advance the distributor timing, it will advance the timing but when you advance the cam timing is actually retard the timing. You cant test the car on stand still because there is no load. When there is pinging sound, it means that you have engine knocking which is bad and the timing too advance, you will need to retard or use higher octane fuel to compensate. 4G1 series or 4G9 series ECU all are very simple... not much protection and simple table only.

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post Sep 12 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Sep 12 2012, 08:55 AM)
The ecu u using is just a normal ecu which have high and low octane table... it do not need to learn except stepper motor and 4AT tranny only. Always remember when u advance the distributor timing, it will advance the timing but when you advance the cam timing is actually retard the timing. You cant test the car on stand still because there is no load. When there is pinging sound, it means that you have engine knocking which is bad and the timing too advance, you will need to retard or use higher octane fuel to compensate. 4G1 series or 4G9 series ECU all are very simple... not much protection and simple table only.
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I see I see. I set the cam to retard so I have to adjust the distributor to retard as well to get rid of the pinging noise. Sound still appears once I engage D and throttle but somehow is gone after a highway trip and acceleration felt smooth and stronger.

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