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 Blizzard admits the lack of long term endgame, Prepare for a depressing read

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post Jul 5 2012, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 5 2012, 03:35 PM)
buy d2 battlechest or something then. make multiple bots/accounts. since d2 = win while d3 = shit.
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used to run bots back then but never got rich from botting... trading>botting xD i love mfing noobs
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post Jul 5 2012, 04:31 PM

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end game should unlock offline/lan play
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post Jul 5 2012, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(kadS @ Jul 5 2012, 04:31 PM)
end game should unlock offline/lan play
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this i totally support. right now i'm playing torchlight. only offline and no multiplayer but still good
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post Jul 5 2012, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(kadS @ Jul 5 2012, 04:31 PM)
end game should unlock offline/lan play
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D3 should support mods too. thumbup.gif
Imagine the possibilities mods could bring. biggrin.gif
They can just implement premium mods (something like premium maps in SC2) to prevent cheating.

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Today i got 2 legendary weapon in 1 run. Both has sxxking stat.

Seriously, just how many billion blizzard has earned from us? Cant they just change this noob game to better game??
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You want to know what is a good endgame for Diablo3?
Ever wonder why D2 still popular and people still playing it for century?

Cause is the concept of the game which made the game itself having a high replayable value. They make it to lvl 99, but to achieve it takes a very long time! but you can complete hell around level 60 to 70 with no problem, as long as you have the right built and right items in hand.

People will usually start farming at that particular level and think, level 99 is not their aim, is how the game provide so much variety to them to test the gamers creativity to combine skills and equipment and building their ultimate/fun combo to play D2. Is not about owning the hell, everyone can complete hell, is about continuously trying and trying to perfected a built, to prove that this built works, and hunting the appropriate equipment to support the built the players come out with. It promote creativity. It promote try and error, in a fun way, and it promote replayability over and over.

You can follow certain built, its work, but you can always come out with some crazy builts, less effective, but fun to play,

Heard of charged bolt sorcerer? I play just that, it don't owned the hell elite or champion most of the time, but is fun as hell when you stack up as much as +all skills, +charged bolt skill, +cast speed, +lighting damage and +mana regen, you hitthe max, you cover the floor with hundreds of bolts.... is fun as hell. Does that make you powerful? No, i cant forever beat every bosses, like those immune to lightning damage, but am i having fun, yes! My friend would go like "hell you make half of my screen white!! lol"

Blizzard didnt forget what FUN should be, a different team of dev just think that profit is much important in the end so they go on with whatever plan to protect their RMAH.

The skill was stagnant, sure i can use lot of different combo too, but i can just easily clear hell with whatever combo i built, moving to inferno which claim to be endgame difficulty, we are all stuck with 1 - 2 primary combo which secure you with survivability, is not even fun when gear play darn important rules to enhance the survivability, and the generic item affixes. Yes, i never complaint on the drop rate, is the boring item affixes that i can't comprehend. Is all come down to only +all resist, +vit, then +stat for your particular character, +IAS, +Crit and +Crit dmg to survive inferno. Yes, you can just shut me down and tell me to just play hell, and yes, that is where i stopped.

Is never about listen or not listening to fan, the game is just fun till hell, after that, end game is just too AH dependance, and what do you look forward in the end? No? Nothing. Keep farming for those generic items? Waiting for the lottery to strike? I like that to happen, but that cannot be the end game, especially toward generic item farming.

So the whole D3 can be summarize into, play, test all your skill unlocked, reach hell, try the best combo, farm and keep wonder when you can get those item that display in the AH/RMAH. When you finally get to ACT1, it get more generic and linear with NV elite farming. That the endgame? Still using the same old gear you wear from hell, and with the same still combo that allow you to survive in inferno?

I think i made my point. D3 is not a bad game, it just lack of endgame, i am not saying for majority of people, just expressing my thought on the game, probably i am a crybaby like the other say, but without crybaby, there is no quality game nowadays and yes, go and keep feeding these kinda dev, they will make more crap, and you keep playing crap. Oh wait a min, is a gem to you.... sorry... i mean you can keep playing the gem.

My 2cent.
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post Jul 5 2012, 06:43 PM

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THIS

great games like starcraft1 and D2, they are build by those creator with ideal in mind, with passion.
game like sc2 and D3 ? they build by money minded people...

This post has been edited by sammm33: Jul 5 2012, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(kadS @ Jul 5 2012, 04:31 PM)
end game should unlock offline/lan play
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I still hope it will become true when I start playing D3....

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Jul 5 2012, 06:38 PM)
You want to know what is a good endgame for Diablo3?
Ever wonder why D2 still popular and people still playing it for century?

Cause is the concept of the game which made the game itself having a high replayable value. They make it to lvl 99, but to achieve it takes a very long time! but you can complete hell around level 60 to 70 with no problem, as long as you have the right built and right items in hand.

People will usually start farming at that particular level and think, level 99 is not their aim, is how the game provide so much variety to them to test the gamers creativity to combine skills and equipment and building their ultimate/fun combo to play D2. Is not about owning the hell, everyone can complete hell, is about continuously trying and trying to perfected a built, to prove that this built works, and hunting the appropriate equipment to support the built the players come out with. It promote creativity. It promote try and error, in a fun way, and it promote replayability over and over.

You can follow certain built, its work, but you can always come out with some crazy builts, less effective, but fun to play,

Heard of charged bolt sorcerer? I play just that, it don't owned the hell elite or champion most of the time, but is fun as hell when you stack up as much as +all skills, +charged bolt skill, +cast speed, +lighting damage and +mana regen, you hitthe max, you cover the floor with hundreds of bolts.... is fun as hell. Does that make you powerful? No, i cant forever beat every bosses, like those immune to lightning damage, but am i having fun, yes! My friend would go like "hell you make half of my screen white!! lol"

Blizzard didnt forget what FUN should be, a different team of dev just think that profit is much important in the end so they go on with whatever plan to protect their RMAH.

The skill was stagnant, sure i can use lot of different combo too, but i can just easily clear hell with whatever combo i built, moving to inferno which claim to be endgame difficulty, we are all stuck with 1 - 2 primary combo which secure you with survivability, is not even fun when gear play darn important rules to enhance the survivability, and the generic item affixes. Yes, i never complaint on the drop rate, is the boring item affixes that i can't comprehend. Is all come down to only +all resist, +vit, then +stat for your particular character, +IAS, +Crit and +Crit dmg to survive inferno. Yes, you can just shut me down and tell me to just play hell, and yes, that is where i stopped.

Is never about listen or not listening to fan, the game is just fun till hell, after that, end game is just too AH dependance, and what do you look forward in the end? No? Nothing. Keep farming for those generic items? Waiting for the lottery to strike? I like that to happen, but that cannot be the end game, especially toward generic item farming.

So the whole D3 can be summarize into, play, test all your skill unlocked, reach hell, try the best combo, farm and keep wonder when you can get those item that display in the AH/RMAH. When you finally get to ACT1, it get more generic and linear with NV elite farming. That the endgame? Still using the same old gear you wear from hell, and with the same still combo that allow you to survive in inferno?

I think i made my point. D3 is not a bad game, it just lack of endgame, i am not saying for majority of people, just expressing my thought on the game, probably i am a crybaby like the other say, but without crybaby, there is no quality game nowadays and yes, go and keep feeding these kinda dev, they will make more crap, and you keep playing crap. Oh wait a min, is a gem to you.... sorry... i mean you can keep playing the gem.

My 2cent.
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this indeed.

i keep coming back to d2 after so many years just to try out wacky builds. some can be quite effective with good gears, e.g. melee sorceress. those who enjoy pvm can experiment with so many builds, while those who enjoy pvp more can try their best to get the best gears, a few high end rares are one of a kind. or, those who just like trading, can just setup mutiple hammerdins to mf items, rush chars, do baal runs, try achieve lvl99 etc. and then there's legit vs dupes, legit players vs botters. d2 was ruined when blizzard abandons it and bots and item imports and dupes ruin the gameplay and economy. and yet blizzard hasn't learn anything from d2's replayability when they develop d3... wtf
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haha... i have no idea how many days stop playing d.. lol.. dont even realize i got such game .. lol..
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[quote=sammm33,Jul 5 2012, 06:43 PM]
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THIS

great games like starcraft1 and D2, they are build by those creator with ideal in mind, with passion.
game like sc2 and D3 ? they build by money minded people...
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D3 maybe but SC2 besides the higher entry price, it is one heck of an awesome game...
SC2 was what pushed eSport into the headlines around the world now...
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post Jul 6 2012, 01:36 AM

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You DO know that this is exactly what Blizzard wanted. This is Diablo 2.5. We will get the full D3 once they start milking us for expansions. Crappy but true. It's the trend of almost all games nowadays.
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QUOTE(CloudDave @ Jul 6 2012, 01:36 AM)
You DO know that this is exactly what Blizzard wanted. This is Diablo 2.5. We will get the full D3 once they start milking us for expansions. Crappy but true. It's the trend of almost all games nowadays.
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If it's similar case to how D2 LoD fundamentally changed D2, means we have 1 more year to wait.
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post Jul 6 2012, 10:08 AM

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Just make World of Diablo already biggrin.gif
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[quote=sammm33,Jul 5 2012, 06:43 PM]
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THIS

great games like starcraft1 and D2, they are build by those creator with ideal in mind, with passion.
game like sc2 and D3 ? they build by money minded people...
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SC2 > D3

please

SC2 has FAR more replay values than D3, the ladder system is enough to keep you laddering for a lifetime unlike D3 inferno endgame lul


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post Jul 6 2012, 10:12 AM

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[quote=The Amateur Working Bee,Jul 6 2012, 10:10 AM]
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THIS

great games like starcraft1 and D2, they are build by those creator with ideal in mind, with passion.
game like sc2 and D3 ? they build by money minded people...
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SC2 > D3

please

SC2 has FAR more replay values than D3, the ladder system is enough to keep you laddering for a lifetime unlike D3 inferno endgame lul

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+1. Haha you got a point there.
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 6 2012, 10:10 AM)
SC2 > D3

please

SC2 has FAR more replay values than D3, the ladder system is enough to keep you laddering for a lifetime unlike D3 inferno endgame lul

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I have not played SC2 for 2 years now. And I didn't spend more than 150 hours on SC2.
I think SC2 is playable because of PvP.
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TO be honestly i used to love blizzy games. Their games has incredible story line and excellent cinematics. But now, all that is left is only their money making machine.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 6 2012, 10:14 AM)
I have not played SC2 for 2 years now. And I didn't spend more than 150 hours on SC2.
I think SC2 is playable because of PvP.
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we dont call it pvp, we call it 1v1, team games or multiplayer

SC2 was NEVER fully about single player storyline bullshit, it was about multiplayer at the end of the day, laddering was a new implementation that gave the whole system more competitive meaning to it, thats why when they bullshitted the story mode, SC players still can live with it.

on the side note, those Ghost chicks has srs hawt a$$ man


Added on July 6, 2012, 10:20 am
QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Jul 6 2012, 10:17 AM)
TO be honestly i used to love blizzy games. Their games has incredible story line and excellent cinematics. But now, all that is left is only their money making machine.
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yeah, i miss the stories, like each game they came out with had awsm cinematics, with RICH storyline that actually mean something and make sense, we all know which b@stard screw the story up regardless

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[quote=gseed87,Jul 5 2012, 05:38 PM]
Today i got 2 legendary weapon in 1 run. Both has sxxking stat.

Seriously, just how many billion blizzard has earned from us? Cant they just change this noob game to better game??
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[quote=The Amateur Working Bee,Jul 6 2012, 10:10 AM]
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THIS

great games like starcraft1 and D2, they are build by those creator with ideal in mind, with passion.
game like sc2 and D3 ? they build by money minded people...
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[/quote]
SC2 > D3

please

SC2 has FAR more replay values than D3, the ladder system is enough to keep you laddering for a lifetime unlike D3 inferno endgame lul

*

[/quote]

YA LA sc2 no matter how bad still better than D3

This post has been edited by takkicom: Jul 6 2012, 10:37 AM

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