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 Google Nexus 7 Official Thread V1, The first Jelly Bean Tablet.

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post Jun 30 2012, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(RazerDeathAdder @ Jun 30 2012, 12:17 AM)
Ainol is considered good enuff?
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I was looking for tablet below rm1k and ainol was under that category. Not really good but affordable biggrin.gif
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post Jun 30 2012, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(melvin91motorola @ Jun 30 2012, 01:05 PM)
im new, so that means i can't transfer my pdf+photo from usb to n7?  hmm.gif
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Just to be clear, for people who don't know. You can still tether you computer and transfer files or sync via USB. You just can't mount USB thumbrives or ext-HDDs. Not much different from the Moto Xoom in that respect.


QUOTE(Racerx @ Jun 30 2012, 02:20 PM)
You can use USB-OTG or you can get a non-Nexus device. IMO cloud storage isn't a viable alternative here in Malaysia .
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Sadly, this is true. I live in Singapore where I get a 100mbps up 50mbps down connection for $SG50 (approx RM120). The 4mbps Streamyx connection in my mom's house in Johor is already more expensive than that. Even cheapest Unifi is more expensive and only gives 5mbps. Plus they have a 60GB limit (though I think it's not implemented yet). Sad state of affairs indeed sad.gif

For mobile use, I plan to tether the Nex7 to my mobile phone (wifi-hotspot mode). For now I'm stuck with 3.5G, but might upgrade to LTE in a few months (we just got LTE in Singapore, I think Malaysia getting end of this year, but probably KL only first), so speeds should improve. There's still a download limit for all mobile plans, unfortunately.

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Jun 30 2012, 03:51 PM)
firmware update wont affect your gallery , song , picture , game data even with the onboard storage.
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif then why would the manufacture warn you to backup when doing update

coz they cant guaranted wether your data will be corrupted anot.


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post Jun 30 2012, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jun 30 2012, 05:01 PM)
biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif then why would the manufacture warn you to backup when doing update

coz they cant guaranted wether your data will be corrupted anot.
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They warn you like all other dev, just to make sure rather than you blame them if you are stupid enough not following steps.
I have no problem with my Nexus from the day I acquired it. If you know what you are doing, then it is safe to say your data is safe.
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QUOTE(fallout @ Jun 30 2012, 05:16 PM)
They warn you like all other dev, just to make sure rather than you blame them if you are stupid enough not following steps.
I have no problem with my Nexus from the day I acquired it. If you know what you are doing, then it is safe to say your data is safe.
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i wont risk my important data on the onboard storage...especially sensitive data....its easy gone if you got a firmware corruption or you sent to rma cool2.gif

i worked in some industry.....i know how risky to store in onboard storage.

some might not agree with me......until your information leaked then dont blame lolz...

just like edison case cool2.gif

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jun 30 2012, 05:50 PM)
i wont risk my important data on the onboard storage...especially sensitive data....its easy gone if you got a firmware corruption or you sent to rma  cool2.gif

i worked in some industry.....i know how risky to store in onboard storage.

some might not agree with me......until your information leaked then dont blame lolz...

just like edison case  cool2.gif
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That depends on personal preferences, as you have your own perspective from the beginning, there is no point discussing more about this issue.

The point Google don't want to add extra SD slot is to minimize problem and I'll fully support this as I've own a phone with SD card and also Nexus which don't. In the end I prefer Nexus which gives less hassle dealing with the card. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jun 30 2012, 05:50 PM)
i wont risk my important data on the onboard storage...especially sensitive data....its easy gone if you got a firmware corruption or you sent to rma  cool2.gif

i worked in some industry.....i know how risky to store in onboard storage.

some might not agree with me......until your information leaked then dont blame lolz...

just like edison case  cool2.gif
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But you'll risk storing sensitive data on an SD card? This doesn't make sense. Flash memory has been known to be unreliable, whether on board of external. You're risking data either way. I've seen phones lose all info onboard just as often as I've seen phones wipe their SD card.

About info "leaks". You're using a Google service!! Your info is already out in the open, my friend. They already know almost everything about you, so they can obviously apply high level math and behavioural prediction to determine that you've got that list of porn stored in your "secure" SD card anyway.

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QUOTE(fallout @ Jun 30 2012, 06:04 PM)
That depends on personal preferences, as you have your own perspective from the beginning, there is no point discussing more about this issue.

The point Google don't want to add extra SD slot is to minimize problem and I'll fully support this as I've own a phone with SD card and also Nexus which don't. In the end I prefer Nexus which gives less hassle dealing with the card. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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hmm.gif hmm.gif adding a micro sd support will hav alot of problem?

as u said...add a micro sd slot will hav more problem to deal with? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jun 30 2012, 06:07 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif adding a micro sd support will hav alot of problem?

as u said...add a micro sd slot will hav more problem to deal with? hmm.gif
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Yes, go read out why Google opt out the sd slot somewhere.
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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jun 30 2012, 06:06 PM)
But you'll risk storing sensitive data on an SD card? This doesn't make sense. Flash memory has been known to be unreliable, whether on board of external. You're risking data either way. I've seen phones lose all info onboard just as often as I've seen phones wipe their SD card.

About info "leaks". You're using a Google service!! Your info is already out in the open, my friend. They already know almost everything about you, so they can obviously apply high level math and behavioural prediction to determine that you've got that list of porn stored in your "secure" SD card anyway.
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lets take it simple.

in your case....im pretty sure its user problem biggrin.gif
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haha if secret data is so damm precious,,,might s well just transfer them from nexus tablet 2 your pc n then transfer them 2 portable hard disk...problem solved laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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hmmm..i wonder what kind of extremely sensitive data that people will store in tab, if u are really know IT... unless u use it to take some private photo or store company / personal important details that cost your life or millions dollar...
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jun 30 2012, 01:47 PM)
what can i do when i run out of storage?

my music alone already 2gb....not yet include my full hd music video  smile.gif
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My music alone already 6GB++ biggrin.gif Now on Galaxy Nexus, after installed some apps and gps etc, left 3.7GB. I think is ok. Got some HD MV.

QUOTE(altimi @ Jun 30 2012, 02:46 PM)
Even with 10mbps Maxis FTTH?
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Erm... Maxis FTTH gives you mobility? I don't think so. With Malaysia 3G connection quality, it's really not that viable. Not to mention the quotas implemented. And not to mention if you're using DiGi. Even full bar signal still lag laugh.gif

QUOTE(djlah @ Jun 30 2012, 03:01 PM)
always use cloud when connected to wifi, but not for 3G.
on the go, pendrive is the best.

dropbox
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sugarsync
GDrive
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all free, used all. more than enough.
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The point here is... At home, do I still need those cloud storage when I can access my laptop and even play through dedicated sound system? Or stream on Nexus/Any android devices from laptop. I would not resort to cloud storage for storing media files. It's seriously not a better alternative to me. I am using them for documents, of course not those top secret documents. Just some university projects/assignments backup nod.gif
Anyway, 16GB is enough for me without storing movies. At least that's the case now on my GNex. Maybe use OTG if wanted to watch movie laugh.gif
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jun 30 2012, 07:15 PM)
My music alone already 6GB++  biggrin.gif Now on Galaxy Nexus, after installed some apps and gps etc, left 3.7GB. I think is ok. Got some HD MV.
Erm... Maxis FTTH gives you mobility? I don't think so. With Malaysia 3G connection quality, it's really not that viable. Not to mention the quotas implemented. And not to mention if you're using DiGi. Even full bar signal still lag  laugh.gif
The point here is... At home, do I still need those cloud storage when I can access my laptop and even play through dedicated sound system? Or stream on Nexus/Any android devices from laptop. I would not resort to cloud storage for storing media files. It's seriously not a better alternative to me. I am using them for documents, of course not those top secret documents. Just some university projects/assignments backup  nod.gif
Anyway, 16GB is enough for me without storing movies. At least that's the case now on my GNex. Maybe use OTG if wanted to watch movie  laugh.gif
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pity you, who asking use mobile at home? set rules auto backup phone to cloud when charging & wifi. lazy to wired.
using wifi other than home, problem?

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QUOTE(djlah @ Jun 30 2012, 08:49 PM)
pity you, who asking use mobile at home? set rules auto backup phone to cloud when charging & wifi. lazy to wired.
using wifi other than home, problem?
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Wifi other than home normally lag like shit laugh.gif This is Malaysia thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jun 30 2012, 09:14 PM)
Wifi other than home normally lag like shit  laugh.gif This is Malaysia  thumbup.gif
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strongly agreed doh.gif on certain public free wifi
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QUOTE(djlah @ Jun 30 2012, 09:18 PM)
strongly agreed  doh.gif on certain public free wifi
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Conclusion is...
Cloud storage is not viable in Malaysia icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 30 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jun 30 2012, 09:20 PM)
Conclusion is...
Cloud storage is not viable in Malaysia  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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partially correct whistling.gif you cannot conclude 100% not at all but the most possible is say majority to be exact.
anyway, if looking for playing media mobilely, pendrive is your friend if the tablet/smaphone is lack of sd card support & support OTG funciton. alternatively, I still happy with cloud right now & I'm in Malaysia tongue.gif

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QUOTE(djlah @ Jun 30 2012, 09:27 PM)
partially correct  whistling.gif  you cannot conclude 100% not at all but the most possible is say majority to be exact.
anyway, if looking for playing media mobilely, pendrive is your friend if the tablet/smaphone is lack of sd card support & support OTG funciton. alternatively, I still happy with cloud right now & I'm in Malaysia  tongue.gif
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add another condition: only if you have unifi or anything of similar/better speed tongue.gif
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QUOTE(djlah @ Jun 30 2012, 09:27 PM)
partially correct  whistling.gif  you cannot conclude 100% not at all but the most possible is say majority to be exact.
anyway, if looking for playing media mobilely, pendrive is your friend if the tablet/smaphone is lack of sd card support & support OTG funciton. alternatively, I still happy with cloud right now & I'm in Malaysia  tongue.gif
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Based on my usage on GNex, I still got pretty healthy 3.7GB. Didn't really play those crazy games that require 1GB+- external data. Max also like 300~500MB. That means I still can install 5~7Games like that. And there's no rear camera. Means no need huge storage if I need to record Full HD video(I got Gnex to do that anyway). If want watch movie then OTG-> Pendrive should be the best. Else 3.7GB still can let install bunch of Angry Birds-alike game (in terms of size). Oh... I'm referring to 16GB version laugh.gif

Wait 6~8months only will buy. Hope at that time 8GB is non-existent and 16GB price drop like Gnex now. Seriously, 8GB is way too small considering that user accessible is only 5.7GB IINM. 16GB gives user 13.3GB which is pretty enough.

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