QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jun 30 2012, 09:51 PM)
even don't have just go old town and upload Google Nexus 7 Official Thread V1, The first Jelly Bean Tablet.
Google Nexus 7 Official Thread V1, The first Jelly Bean Tablet.
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Jun 30 2012, 10:06 PM
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Jun 30 2012, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jun 30 2012, 09:51 PM) The question now is... If you have UniFi, you should be at home. Then what's the point of cloud storage |
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Jul 1 2012, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jun 30 2012, 10:21 PM) The question now is... If you have UniFi, you should be at home. that statement is kinda wrong though. since there are many places who offer access to the internet(mcd, starbucks, chatime, etc) although slower(about 1/5 of VIP5's speed), but it's still quite okay though. I won't deny that if you wanna stream a 1gb video or download a 500mb file from your cloud storage, then forget bout it. It's not really gonna to happen(I would rather store a copy on my pendrive and use usb otg for that).QUOTE Then what's the point of cloud storage let's take a use case, I had an assignment that I had put at cloud storage and I'm at my university with only my nexus tablet. The due time is by 5pm and now its 4.30pm. My colleague has just went out to the printing shop to print the assignment so that we can pass up the assignment(he's bringing a pendrive). but damn, he just noticed that he didn't had a copy of the assignment, then he called me. Then, as I remembered that I had actually made a backup at the cloud storage(box.net, dropbox, skydrive, drive, anything), I downloaded the assignment, emailed it to his email, and he fetched the file by downloading it at the printing's shop's computer(considering that "most" printing shops have internet access), printed it, binded it, and passed it up before 5pm. Of course, you may ask, why don't you give him access to your cloud storage? obviously, privacy and security reason. (silly but to emphasize that although there are solutions, but it may not be feasible) My point is that there are always other ways to do it, but it may not be feasible due to certain reasons. What I wanted to say is that the things are there for you to use, just that how you use it and is your way of using it is effective/appropriate is what that matters. QUOTE I believe those songs on your cloud are available on your PC/Laptop. Streaming from there or just play with those devices is easier... there will be cases where you had forgotten to bring your laptop and are only left with your nexus tablet right? Like what I had said above, otherwise, I can always usb otg with my pendrive and play it as well right? my point: cloud can cover some usecase but it cannot cover every usecase and there will be always one or more than one usecase where using cloud 'may' not feasible(for example, storing your password on the cloud, what if the site was hacked and what will happen to your passwords?) p/s: just stating my point, no offense btw. |
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Jul 1 2012, 12:36 AM
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once you fully understand the benefit of cloud, everyone will appreciate it. we don't talk about huge hd movie, bluray. |
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Jul 1 2012, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(wcypierre @ Jul 1 2012, 12:09 AM) that statement is kinda wrong though. since there are many places who offer access to the internet(mcd, starbucks, chatime, etc) although slower(about 1/5 of VIP5's speed), but it's still quite okay though. I won't deny that if you wanna stream a 1gb video or download a 500mb file from your cloud storage, then forget bout it. It's not really gonna to happen(I would rather store a copy on my pendrive and use usb otg for that). Might be feasible for you but definitely not me. My uni wifi sucks to the max max max max even MAX is not enough to describe let's take a use case, I had an assignment that I had put at cloud storage and I'm at my university with only my nexus tablet. The due time is by 5pm and now its 4.30pm. My colleague has just went out to the printing shop to print the assignment so that we can pass up the assignment(he's bringing a pendrive). but damn, he just noticed that he didn't had a copy of the assignment, then he called me. Then, as I remembered that I had actually made a backup at the cloud storage(box.net, dropbox, skydrive, drive, anything), I downloaded the assignment, emailed it to his email, and he fetched the file by downloading it at the printing's shop's computer(considering that "most" printing shops have internet access), printed it, binded it, and passed it up before 5pm. Of course, you may ask, why don't you give him access to your cloud storage? obviously, privacy and security reason. (silly but to emphasize that although there are solutions, but it may not be feasible) My point is that there are always other ways to do it, but it may not be feasible due to certain reasons. What I wanted to say is that the things are there for you to use, just that how you use it and is your way of using it is effective/appropriate is what that matters. there will be cases where you had forgotten to bring your laptop and are only left with your nexus tablet right? Like what I had said above, otherwise, I can always usb otg with my pendrive and play it as well right? my point: cloud can cover some usecase but it cannot cover every usecase and there will be always one or more than one usecase where using cloud 'may' not feasible(for example, storing your password on the cloud, what if the site was hacked and what will happen to your passwords?) p/s: just stating my point, no offense btw. Erm... If you've read enough, I did mention the feasibility of cloud storage for other uses. Just not for media files. Btw, when I refer to wifi, I mean at home and that, I mean my laptop at home. It's not the matter that whether you bring your laptop with you. It's that your laptop 'SHOULD' be at home. If that's the case, I find it quite stupid to stream from Cloud at home No offence but do read through some more posts I made before commenting Oh... And in my previous post, I did mention 'AT HOME'. So... I mean 'at home'. You get what I mean? I meant 'At Home'. Don't tell me your PC/Laptop is not at home. You forgot to bring it home? (Possible case but not for me. My laptop always stick on my table in my room). Peace This post has been edited by IwanAGP: Jul 1 2012, 12:57 AM |
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Jul 1 2012, 01:14 AM
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nexus 7 retailing at US 199 converting to malaysian currency would be RM 632. hopefully i can expect this tablet to be sold not more then RM 800 if there is any extra tax imposed .. what do you guys think ?
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Jul 1 2012, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jul 1 2012, 12:56 AM) Might be feasible for you but definitely not me. My uni wifi sucks to the max max max max even MAX is not enough to describe well, it differs from place to place though. that's just an example(uni).QUOTE Erm... If you've read enough, I did mention the feasibility of cloud storage for other uses. Just not for media files. yeah, you did mention 'at home'. But what I interpret is that, when you said when you have unifi, you should be at home(you should read these few words for a few more times to get what I mean, its your post btw). That's not always true because your uni may have internet access with speed as fast/faster than unifi as well(and is that your home?). Hence, when I interpret that you may not be at home, so your laptop may not always be by your side and hence my explanation.Btw, when I refer to wifi, I mean at home and that, I mean my laptop at home. It's not the matter that whether you bring your laptop with you. It's that your laptop 'SHOULD' be at home. If that's the case, I find it quite stupid to stream from Cloud at home No offence but do read through some more posts I made before commenting Oh... And in my previous post, I did mention 'AT HOME'. So... I mean 'at home'. You get what I mean? I meant 'At Home'. Don't tell me your PC/Laptop is not at home. You forgot to bring it home? (Possible case but not for me. My laptop always stick on my table in my room). Peace |
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Jul 1 2012, 01:42 AM
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sometimes a wonder..do people really need few gb of song in a device?
with the resolution i believe that 720p is enough for a good quality movie..after all our eyes are not so sharp as superman to define each detail (at least not mine) so my point is try not to store over/unlimited size/quality thing in a tablet.. after all its only a tablet.. |
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Jul 1 2012, 01:43 AM
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is this what ppl mean when they say OTG?
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Jul 1 2012, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(im_not_stupid @ Jul 1 2012, 01:42 AM) sometimes a wonder..do people really need few gb of song in a device? unless you plan to hook it to the TV via HDMI, 720p is more than enoughwith the resolution i believe that 720p is enough for a good quality movie..after all our eyes are not so sharp as superman to define each detail (at least not mine) so my point is try not to store over/unlimited size/quality thing in a tablet.. after all its only a tablet.. |
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Jul 1 2012, 02:14 AM
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Jul 1 2012, 02:15 AM
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when can i start order...?
can give it to my papa..... |
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Jul 1 2012, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(im_not_stupid @ Jul 1 2012, 02:14 AM) that's what i meant... so there shouldn't be any storage-eating monstrous file in the tablet right? so storage issue solved i know a few ppl that put in high bitrate songs they never listen, bluray movies they never watch, hd games they never play for me personally, 16GB is enough......i dont even use external sdcard for my SGS2 |
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Jul 1 2012, 02:20 AM
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Jul 1 2012, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jul 1 2012, 02:19 AM) i know a few ppl that put in high bitrate songs they never listen, bluray movies they never watch, hd games they never play for me personally, 16GB is enough......i dont even use external sdcard for my SGS2 QUOTE(Zeroguyz91 @ Jul 1 2012, 02:20 AM) finally someone get the point of TABLET |
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Jul 1 2012, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(limewekit @ Jul 1 2012, 01:14 AM) nexus 7 retailing at US 199 converting to malaysian currency would be RM 632. hopefully i can expect this tablet to be sold not more then RM 800 if there is any extra tax imposed .. what do you guys think ? No more than RM700 for me .If reach 800 mark mean the 16gb would be 1000 . I rather get tablet 10 . |
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Jul 1 2012, 03:50 AM
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jun 30 2012, 09:20 PM) ok what... using cloud storage on my phone, tablet & pc.throw song in phone, tablet & pc gets it almost instantly. takes a pic, both other device gets it. works flawlessly for me. using dropbox & dropsync pro on both android devices. just dont use it to spam huge format stuff, otherwise, everything about cloud is possible. kesian those android device makers in china xD This post has been edited by doggydogg: Jul 1 2012, 03:54 AM |
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Jul 1 2012, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(doggydogg @ Jul 1 2012, 03:50 AM) ok what... using cloud storage on my phone, tablet & pc. throw song in phone, tablet & pc gets it almost instantly. takes a pic, both other device gets it. works flawlessly for me. using dropbox & dropsync pro on both android devices. just dont use it to spam huge format stuff, otherwise, everything about cloud is possible. kesian those android device makers in china xD |
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Jul 1 2012, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jul 1 2012, 09:00 AM) I love dropbox, can auto upload.Hehe |
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Jul 1 2012, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jul 1 2012, 02:19 AM) i know a few ppl that put in high bitrate songs they never listen, bluray movies they never watch, hd games they never play Exactly!! If I was traveling somewhere, I could easily get 10 or 20 x 320kbps mp3 albums on a 16GB Galaxy Nexus, plus my documents and images. I don't believe anyone is that stupid to listen to FLAC or another loss format with a phone's low-end audio hardware anyway.for me personally, 16GB is enough......i dont even use external sdcard for my SGS2 If I was on an extended stay overseas, then I'd probably need to bring a laptop to get real work done anyway, so what's the point? QUOTE(herojack41 @ Jun 30 2012, 06:09 PM) and in your case.... I'm pretty sure;1. You need to learn how your device keeps a /var/log (or equivalent) of whatever it reads, whether internal or external. 2. You have no idea how flash based memory works. 3. You need to learn proper English (eg: the right way to phrase your opening sentence is "Let's MAKE it simple") I have no idea what "industry" you worked in before, but I sure as hell hope you don't work there anymore, for the good of people buying the products. This is why I seldom venture outside the Linux and Open Source or Networking/P2P sub-forums. Most people in other sections don't know know jack sh*t about anything and just repeat the useless drivel they read in blogs or faceboob!! This post has been edited by G-17: Jul 1 2012, 09:51 AM |
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