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post Jun 19 2012, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 19 2012, 01:22 AM)
take me some time to comprehend what you are trying to say. A man cannot love two women? mayb he still loves his wife but since his wife cant satisfy him, he need to find outside source to satisfy. I m just guessing. If i have extra marital, it doesn't mean I dont love my wife and children. there are other factors.
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So you're totally fine with your future wife loves two man at the same time?? Before you lightly come out with a statement, weigh the severity and possibility of it. Put yourself in the situation too. If you can't take it, is it fair to hurt others around you just because your heart is BIG enough to love two person at the same time?
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post Jun 19 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 19 2012, 01:01 PM)
So if in future, yr partner leaves you for another, you would kill her? okay.
cry.gif Why your dad no take responsibility of providing financial needs to yr family eventhou he has another family. I do not like this sort of people. btw, yr mom did not fall in love with another man?
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Seriously, you must be living in your ideal world... Not everyone will be responsible for their affair... Just curious, are you in a relationship or are you planning to set up a family?

TS, i'm sorry that you have to go through this. My advice, get the house owner name changed to your mum's name... At least she has something...

This post has been edited by ngsyin: Jun 19 2012, 02:46 PM
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post Jun 19 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 19 2012, 01:46 PM)
Oh c`mon, don't be such a close minded bigot.

To be able to trust your partner to keep you as the priority and you yourself committing to your partner despite the indulgent temptations requires a different sort of character. Its not for everyone, but you shouldn't condemn it simply because you don't have that capacity.

To put it in another way, some people consider going out to a cinema with the opposite sex as a date, and hence "cheating". You may think its silly, but that's the perception of some groups. Open relationships are the same thing, the line is just drawn much higher.

Remember, infidelity means the person is cheating by not letting the person know. Its not cheating if the person knows of it, and condones it. There is no betrayal of trust.

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ONE movie date with the opposite sex is not. Deliberate intimate activities alone that eventually leads to breakdown of existing relationship is cheating in which the purpose of such activity is to establish another relationship.

I'm condemning it not because it's almost baseless and the great disparity of practice for each partner at different stage of life. Trusting your partner will keep you as priority doesn't equate he/she is keeping you priority. Hence, cheating is an indicator for a partner still committed in a relationship. Is it possible for a partner to disapprove any sexual activity? Since there is not such thing as saying no to partners sexual activity and term cheating is non-existence in open-relationship; what trust and commitment you are talking about? doesn't it sound like something full of crap?


QUOTE(cutiesbaby312 @ Jun 19 2012, 02:01 PM)
So you're totally fine with your future wife loves two man at the same time?? Before you lightly come out with a statement, weigh the severity and possibility of it. Put yourself in the situation too. If you can't take it, is it fair to hurt others around you just because your heart is BIG enough to love two person at the same time?
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I believe people at different stage of life will utter different rubbish depending on what suit them best at a point. In this case, what he meant is "he can have extra marital WHEN his wife no longer attractive" and he knows very well the same doesn't apply to his wife at that point. It's almost the same argument for ace.princess about open relationship. "She can have extra casual sex WHEN he is not that "attractive" (bear in mind definition of attractiveness in women POV) yet". But she MIGHT not hold the same view at later stage of her life. Time will tell.
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post Jun 19 2012, 02:58 PM

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I'm sorry about the TS's predicament but I'm even more sorry for this person who has to put up with sheer senseless, most absurd and idiotic comments, in here. What is this world coming to, with some of you clearly stating or inferring that having an extra marital affair is acceptable. UNBELIEVABLE!!

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post Jun 19 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 19 2012, 01:01 PM)
Why your dad no take responsibility of providing financial needs to yr family eventhou he has another family.
Because it's bloody hard to the point of impossible, you moron. doh.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 03:18 PM

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Yes, the first thing that goes through your mind when you put your d!ck in another woman is, "Do I have enough money to have 2 families?"

Fricking BS if I ever seen one.
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post Jun 19 2012, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(cc980024 @ Jun 19 2012, 01:44 PM)
No. I don't need to kill .. coz my man doesn't have your special mindset.
Even if he leaves me for another, I do believe he will regret and feel sorry. At least won't be telling everyone that there is nothing wrong for him to find another woman.. leaving the wife and children behind.

Arguement aside now.

TS, if your mum has not find out anything yet. Keep it down for now.
Talk to your dad that you aware of this situation and tell him your criteria. Such as do not ever let mum know about this and he needs to make sure mum's feeling is the 1st priority. He needs to be there for her on every occasion. He needs to come home just like any normal husband did. With that, he still can have the option to keep 2 family.

As for his fortune distribution.. this depends on how wealthy your dad is. If is rich.. of coz you fight for your family leaving just enough to cover the baby. If your dad is just like any normal elderly.. then fight also no $.
But most important, the house your mum staying should put your mum name now.
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You think too highly of yrself. outside there are millions more better than you. The chances that he will meet someone better than you is high too. unless he stays in the cave with you.

QUOTE(JBob @ Jun 19 2012, 01:51 PM)
No, she didn't. and i think you have some crazy responses in all that i've read so far.
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crazy?

QUOTE(cutiesbaby312 @ Jun 19 2012, 02:01 PM)
So you're totally fine with your future wife loves two man at the same time?? Before you lightly come out with a statement, weigh the severity and possibility of it. Put yourself in the situation too. If you can't take it, is it fair to hurt others around you just because your heart is BIG enough to love two person at the same time?
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you wanna talk about gender equality? there are certain things men can do while society accepts it while certain things women do society will make a fuss abt it. example, a woman has 2 men.

QUOTE(ngsyin @ Jun 19 2012, 02:32 PM)
Seriously, you must be living in your ideal world... Not everyone will be responsible for their affair... Just curious, are you in a relationship or are you planning to set up a family?

TS, i'm sorry that you have to go through this. My advice, get the house owner name changed to your mum's name... At least she has something...
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I dont plan to marry. but i m fine with having a baby with a girl.

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 19 2012, 03:00 PM)
Because it's bloody hard to the point of impossible, you moron.  doh.gif
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huh? Don't understand what you saying.


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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Jun 19 2012, 03:18 PM)
Yes, the first thing that goes through your mind when you put your d!ck in another woman is, "Do I have enough money to have 2 families?"

Fricking BS if I ever seen one.
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If the woman is someone I want to have kids with , I don't mind putting in without a condom. But if she is not my ideal woman, I will not do that.

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post Jun 19 2012, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 19 2012, 03:42 PM)
crazy?

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Yes, i think your responses are crazy, well, even your train of thought. I seriously wonder where all these come from. Your thoughts on cheating is...weird. How can you justify a broken home and family with "Just because i'm not satisfied sexually"?. One of these days, touch wood, when it happens to you, when you catch your wife sleeping with another man because you underperform in bed and has a kid with the other man but never told you, I want to be there to see what you do and how u react.

And for the life of me, I don't think you'll be able to understand what any of us here are trying to tell you.

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post Jun 19 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(JBob @ Jun 19 2012, 04:19 PM)
Yes, i think your responses are crazy, well, even your train of thought. I seriously wonder where all these come from. Your thoughts on cheating is...weird. How can you justify a broken home and family with "Just because i'm not satisfied sexually"?. One of these days, touch wood, when it happens to you, when you catch your wife sleeping with another man because you underperform in bed and has a kid with the other man but never told you, I want to be there to see what you do and how u react.

And for the life of me, I don't think you'll be able to understand what any of us here are trying to tell you.
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mayb my 'believe' is wrong assumption in the first post. mayb ts's dad has no more feelings for the mother. mayb ts' dad can no longer tolerate his wife attitude/character and thinks now is the appropriate time to leave her since the children are big. mayb..... there are many factors why he needs outside woman. And I m just guessing it.
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post Jun 19 2012, 04:41 PM

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@jayc: I agreed with n00b13. Its almost impossible for that to happen. This only happen to those rich / capable to take care both families, but rarely happen.
To TS: I dont care what others said/argue for u here, but i STRONGLY encourage NOT to tell ur mom on this. Old folks retired have nothing to do, and end up think more and more. Remember, once broken it will never be the same anymore, just like piece of paper or mirror/glass. There is no cure for broken heart at this age. And i hope that your family will not opt for divorce, they have been together for so long, for god sake, please dont let their marriage end in this way.

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post Jun 19 2012, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 19 2012, 04:24 PM)
mayb my 'believe' is wrong assumption in the first post. mayb ts's dad has no more feelings for the mother. mayb ts' dad can no longer tolerate his wife attitude/character and thinks now is the appropriate time to leave her since the children are big. mayb..... there are many factors why he needs outside woman. And I m just guessing it.
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Care to tell what's the point of getting married? Deceiving some woman to bear you kids?
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post Jun 19 2012, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(WallChecker @ Jun 19 2012, 04:41 PM)
@jayc: I agreed with n00b13. Its almost impossible for that to happen. This only happen to those rich / capable to take care both families, but rarely happen.
To TS: I dont care what others said/argue for u here, but i STRONGLY encourage NOT to tell ur mom on this. Old folks retired have nothing to do, and end up think more and more. Remember, once broken it will never be the same anymore, just like piece of paper or mirror/glass. There is no cure for broken heart at this age. And i hope that your family will not opt for divorce, they have been together for so long, for god sake, please dont let their marriage end in this way.
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so if want to fish outside, always wear condom.

QUOTE(RUI @ Jun 19 2012, 04:50 PM)
Care to tell what's the point of getting married? Deceiving some woman to bear you kids?
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If dating can leads to break up, why cant married ends with divorce?
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post Jun 19 2012, 04:57 PM

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Ts, I guess your mum might have known it but she just doesn't want to tell it. After reading so many different replies here. I assumed nothing much we can help or to make the decision for you. Be it supportive, care her and be a filial daughter when she is down.
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post Jun 19 2012, 04:58 PM

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Go tackle ur dad china women.. f*** her then surprise ur dad and the china women when they both meet. and tell him..OMG...whose "child" is that?
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post Jun 19 2012, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 19 2012, 04:54 PM)
so if want to fish outside, always wear condom.
If dating can leads to break up, why cant married ends with divorce?
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i really want to know how old are you and whether u have someone to love now or not. But somehow your defence is tad bit immature n childish.
Dating and marriage is a completely different phase, we date because we want to find the right one to be our lifetime partners. That is why it is a Big leap when someone gets married bcoz u are certain that she is the one for u. In ur previous post u say u get married is for career advancement bcoz society perceive u as being responsible and stable, basically you are selfish, who only cares about urself. nuff said
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QUOTE(WallChecker @ Jun 19 2012, 04:41 PM)
@jayc: I agreed with n00b13. Its almost impossible for that to happen. This only happen to those rich / capable to take care both families, but rarely happen.
It's not just a financial issue, it's also the psychological toll it takes on everyone. Sisters in Islam has done studies of Muslim polygamous marriages, in which the large majority of them are unhappy - both the first and second/third/fourth wives, and children of all sides. All the wives and children feel neglected and resentful of the father for having other families. Some may say that, in terms of sexual partners, humans are not meant to be monogamous (*looks at ace.princess* biggrin.gif ). I think, in terms of providing the support of the traditional family unit, humans cannot be polygamous.
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post Jun 19 2012, 05:13 PM

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One day, while driving in town, I saw my dad's car coming in the opposite direction. Gosh, I noted there was a woman sitting in front and I said to myself, what the heck my dad was doing. At that time my dad was already retired and we are all grown up.

When I reached my office, I have no hesitation and called my mom. I told her what I saw and I told her its alright what dad is doing and if there are women stupid enough to "stick' to my dad, its her fxxing problem, not ours. I said dad is already retired and maybe its better for him to keep his reflexes active and his mind young rather than sit at home and wait for his calling.

The only thing me and my siblings told my mom is that make sure he's is not stupid enough to let that woman "con" him of all his savings.

The good thing is that he knows how to come back home and he has not produce another younger issue.

Sometimes, its not bad; just look at the positive side of things.
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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 19 2012, 04:54 PM)
so if want to fish outside, always wear condom.
If dating can leads to break up, why cant married ends with divorce?
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doh.gif doh.gif Apalah you. Everything just appeared on your mind you can turn and twist it to prove others whatever you said were so right in the end. Try to think and brain the possibilities of the entire life of making a wrong choice/decision , what will it be happened in the end, not the temporarily happiness, joys, fulfillments. It is just an excuse to allow you to go further to hurt more people. doh.gif So if you wanna talk about gender equality, both gender can do the same thing now. Society has changed. Guys and girls love to share the same commitments with their love. It just the word of willingness. Do it or not to do it. I just hope you don't use your "Man" power to talk cocks here with others.

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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 19 2012, 04:54 PM)
If dating can leads to break up, why cant married ends with divorce?
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Then don't make promise you don't intend to keep in the first place. Marriage is a promise. Marriage vows is there for a reason.
Any man with conscience will think twice before committing any unfaithful act. At least, divorce first and do it like a man.

So what you are implying here? It's OK for a man to find sexual pleasure from other woman simply because he is no longer satisfied with the faithful wife who stood by his side for all these years? Is this how you perceive a marriage?

If that's true; you are one selfish man that have no integrity which perceive everything as business trade and only pays woman for their services. If you want to do business, do it with good faith. NO LIES! NO CHEATING! Get urself a vietnamese wife or something.
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QUOTE(jayqc @ Jun 19 2012, 04:54 PM)
so if want to fish outside, always wear condom.
If dating can leads to break up, why cant married ends with divorce?
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Marriage is not for playplay, dude.. It's a lifetime commitment... Thank goodness that you don't plan to get married... But you mentioned your gf is willing to have a kid with a girl... Are you sure your gf is willing to have a kid with you without marrying?

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