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post Jun 16 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(cutiesbaby312 @ Jun 16 2012, 06:36 PM)
Confront your dad.

Take care of your mum and leave him if you guys are grown ups and financial capable.

Mistake can be forgiven. But only once, not twice.
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What's wrong with men having an affair? I believe all these years yr dad has fulfil his responsibilities as a dad and a husband. so let him have all the sex he wants now since I believe yr mom cant satisfy him any longer. It would be silly for yr mom to leave the house or divorces yr dad bcoz of his woman.
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post Jun 17 2012, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jun 16 2012, 09:44 PM)
Whaaa???

Whatever happened to "in sickness and in health, for better or for worse"?

Shit...............does that mean if you get married and touch wood, one day you lose your job or have the misfortune to go bankrupt then your wife has the right to dump you and go find someone else cos you aren't rich enough???
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that is marriage scam, you all really believe that? if ts's father is a pokai means takde wang or bankrupt, his mother would also leave the father lar. don't be so naive. the father is 57 yo , how many more years he can live? if he wants to play girl, let him play lar since we only live once.


QUOTE(cutiesbaby312 @ Jun 16 2012, 11:30 PM)
This... shows how much an 'animal' u r when ur gf/wife no longer satisfy ur needs... it's a disgrace to even read this :facepalm: ... so I assume ur partner should be glad that she has the choice to dump u whenever u failed.
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please don't call me an animal. so you expect the father who has a high sex drives to live unhappily with the wife who can no longer satisfy him in bed? masturbate till he dies? what's wrong with him having other woman? as long as he still fulfil his responsibilities as a father and husband

QUOTE(cutiepooh @ Jun 16 2012, 11:40 PM)
Nothing wrong but sex driven only. Well, I believe that everyone has the right to do whatever they like to fulfill their needs but not create a mess or suffering to the closest or others innocent.
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I think the mother should learn to accept it. why want to be unhappy over the husband affair. i believe she also ard age 50+. so carry on with life and be happy. .
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post Jun 17 2012, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(IceCream91 @ Jun 17 2012, 01:47 AM)
I really really hate the fact that guys who sleep around are considered 'OK' and girls who sleep around are sluts. Guys who sleep around should be called sex maniac/perverts. And i also hate the fact that females are being said useless in sex when they get older. Well, males are the same!!! When they get old, their **** gets old too!!!
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okay. cool down.
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post Jun 17 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(aladdin @ Jun 17 2012, 05:47 AM)
China b****es are Horrible. The purpose of having baby is just to milk money from those old man.

Suggest you talk to your father first. Go and identify whose baby is his. This baby might be someone else. Dont fall into her trap.

Also, i believe she might holds temporary or holiday visa to enter malaysia. For such a short term, how your dad have affair with her. Call immigration and report her. It sounds bad, but at least u can stop her harrasing your family now.
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bro , don't insult china girls pls. How if I insult yr mother? do you like that? Not all china girls are bad. I met some really good one.
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post Jun 17 2012, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(slushie @ Jun 17 2012, 10:02 PM)
i cant believe ppl like u still exist and still dare to post like this so openly like you're damn proud of it.

Wait till it happens to your loved one and you'll soon find out how it feels.

People like you is among the many reasons why ppl lost hope in humanity.
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Just because my views/opinion differ from you, you criticise me. i think our freedom of speech is threatened. oh wai, since when our freedom of speech is not threatened. learn to accept different views. not everyone has a same thinking cap as you do. Everyone has the right to pursue happiness. Very often we allow ourselves to be unhappy so others can be happy. What's wrong with human being be a bit selfish to pursue our happiness?

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post Jun 17 2012, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Jonrev @ Jun 17 2012, 10:42 PM)
What responsibility that a husband and a father has? For me a husband/dad has the responsibility to keep the family in order, to be there and to love them. A father's responsibility is Not to provide for the family financially and f***s around cause his wife is old. Do you know we women can earn more than our husbands? We have equal bargaining power and we can leave anytime we want. If my husband did that to me, go f*** around and have a child, i will leave.. my children will definitely follow me and that i am financially capable!
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I think you all misinterpreted me. I know many women who earns more than their husband. My point here is since his father wants to play outside, let him play outside. His father is 57yo and he is not getting any younger. Ts i assume is an adult most probably working. so you would prefer yr husband to live with you unhappily and sexually deprived just because you don't want the family to separate?
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post Jun 17 2012, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jonrev @ Jun 17 2012, 11:07 PM)
do you know we women enjoy sex as much? do you know we want varieties as well.do you know we watch porn as well.. not all women, but most of us do want to satisfy each other. I believe if my husband tells me that our sex life is dull, maybe we can work things out. We too want sex as much, so if my husband under perform, too tired from work to have sex, does this mean i can go f*** another guy and be pregnant with his child?
i dont blame your thinking, maybe its bcoz u are quite traditional guy who thinks only guys can enjoy sex and have fun. You get old too, u will underperform too... teach your wife new things, explore together.. instead of having the excuse that she is old and wrinkled and unappetizing. I believe growing old together with someone we can trust and a loving family is better than having a responsible husband but leaves the family to seek his own desire.
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sometimes there is no feelings for each other anymore. how to have sex? not all marriages ends happily. there are many cases were happy marriages in the beginning, towards the middle and the end, it start to fade. there is no more feelings liao. Cant blame them. there is no right or wrong. In life you can meet someone new and start to fall in love again.
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post Jun 17 2012, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(CallMeBin @ Jun 17 2012, 11:19 PM)
Great !  rclxms.gif
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Please get yr english rite. You are insulting the whole of china. you call them china bitc***. Isn't that insulting? that is not freedom of speech. it is like you are saying all our MPs are stupid. A police report can me made against you.

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post Jun 17 2012, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jonrev @ Jun 17 2012, 11:21 PM)
I dont understand you, no feelings means you wont patch things up? Not happy means no need to put effort in repairing your family? Remember, its you who ask for her hand in marriage, you take her hand means that you promise to grow old together.
Yes there is no right or wrong, thats why there is arguments but people do try to patch things up and compromise, thats what the marriage institution is all about..
and yes we can meet someone new, but if we so easily fall for someone new, why would you want to get married in the first place where we meet new people everyday.
its commitment towards rship, not happy then settle it.. if cannot then divorce, why want to make both parties miserable staying in a marriage when my husband is having an affair outside?
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1st point, sometimes things are beyond repair. Like a person character can never change or will take a longer time to change. so another party cannot tolerate. there are many factors resulting in marriage failure.

2nd point, go on living in a fantasy world. if you think a guy takes his partner hand, they have to grow old together. it is fine with me, but i don't agree with you on that.

3rd point, we refer back to tered starter problem. Since his mother doesn't know about the problem, I don't think ts should cause unnecessary trouble in his family by telling his mother abt dad's affair. I think ts should not confront his father too. Who is he to confront his dad? he is just a son. remember yr dad fed you all these years. You do not bit the hand that feed you. If i am in ts's shoe, I would just let the situation as it be. spent more time with my mother. tell my dad to at least come home everynite and be by mother's side.


QUOTE(slushie @ Jun 17 2012, 11:25 PM)
Yes, from your opinions it shows you're a true blue selfish person that should remain unmarried so that you wont bring hurt to your family members. Be happy all you want, just dont hurt other ppl.

Thank God my father is not like you.
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Thank you for jumping to the conclusion abt my character without knowing me thoroughly. I hope you wouldn't get a heart attack if someday you found out of yr dad activities outside.


Added on June 17, 2012, 11:45 pm
QUOTE(Jonrev @ Jun 17 2012, 11:40 PM)
No, a police report cannot be made against him, u cant defame a group. i am a lawyer and i know my facts
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okay. you know law better than I do. but it is still unethical to call them b******.

QUOTE(CallMeBin @ Jun 17 2012, 11:40 PM)
PRC are everywhere in Singapore being insulted, why don't you go to any Singapore forum to protect them ?  whistling.gif
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because I m not in singapore's forum. anyway, i feel it is not wrong to call them bitc***. they are human too. have some respect.

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post Jun 18 2012, 12:08 AM

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Jonrev, we can debate till the cows come home also cannot reach an agreement. we are just two people looking at things differently. anyway, sleep early and goodnight.
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post Jun 18 2012, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(ace.princess @ Jun 18 2012, 01:22 AM)
Having an affair is one thing. Resulting in an innocent child to be born into this world due to irresponsible behavior, now that brings the situation into a whole new level of sh*ttiness.

How's your dad looking into the whole situation? Does he regret it? Or he thinks he's doing nothing wrong, because he's a man who has desires to "spread his seeds as far and wide as possible"?

With the child, it makes things so much more complicated. Because the child bears your dad's share of genes, he will be attached because it's also his son.

I foresee, sooner or later, he may need to come into a situation where he has to make a choice. Be prepared when that happens, should it come to a point where your side can't accept the family of the other side, there may be a possibility that he will walk out. At this point, you have to be tough as a family without the dad. Be there for your mom, be supportive to her. Hold the family together as one.

A complete family is always ideal. But sometimes when the worst happens, you need to be prepared for it. And your lives will definitely be changed and greatly impacted by it. It may even come to a day where he doesn't even say a word to you, doesn't visit you, don't give a sh*t about what goes on in your life, and you live life like you don't have a father anymore.

For now, it's better not to tell your mom about it, if she can't handle it. Also, try to see from your dad's perspective and why he's doing this, if this can still be saved.

It's really saddening to be saying this on Father's Day. I hope he chooses to stay with you, and keep the family intact. It stinks to live without a dad.
@jayqc: Seriously, people like you shouldn't even get married or have kids at all. You don't understand the basis of keeping the family together. Ruining a complete happy family is okay, because things change? You probably don't give a sh*t about how other people feel, or the hurt you cause others, as long as you're getting things your way.
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Don't understand what are you implying.
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post Jun 18 2012, 12:31 PM

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what I m trying to say here is I don't see anything wrong for ts's father to have another relationship with a woman. He is just finding his own happiness. Come on, he is 57 yo. How many more years can he live? If he wants to have fun, let it be. Why make a big deal out of it? The mother shud accept the fact that their marriage is practically over.
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post Jun 18 2012, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Jun 18 2012, 10:42 AM)
To TS,

1. Ask your mum to get a divorce, get yourself and your two brothers to take care of her. I'm pretty sure you both can.
2. Stop having hopes that he'll come back.
3. When his money runs out and his second wife ditch him, then decide whether or not it's worth anything to take him back.

The last person I knew doing something similar, died alone in a house he rented. His body wasn't discovered till a week afterward.

Know your priority on this case. Take your mum out of this. She's still in the relationship because of you and your siblings. Nothing else.
Things will become much more simpler after.

For Jay.
As for the logic of he's old and should be let do whatever he wants to. Does the same logic applies to this?
You're freaking retarded. Being old is not an excuse for acting like a horny 15 year old boy.

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you are taking two different issues entirely. one takes life while the other just cause unhappiness.

QUOTE(slushie @ Jun 18 2012, 10:51 AM)
Jayqc, if u still think u r right and defending over something that's completely a rotten perspective, something is seriously wrong with ur upbringing. pity ur future family.





Added on June 18, 2012, 10:54 am

Anyway TS, sorry for derailing the topic.

do stay strong, be independent, provide however much you can for your mom and family. They need you now.

As whether to inform your mom or not, you may want to weigh out all the pros and cons since you know about your family's situation the clearest.
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just because you disagree with me doesn't mean you are right and i m wrong. And pls don't pull my family here. tq. ntg to do with them.

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post Jun 18 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Jun 18 2012, 01:00 PM)
Again, being 57 doesnt' mean he can act like 15.
Life expectancy for Malaysian in 2010 is 73.8 years.
Life Expectancy in Malaysia
He doesn't exactly expire 58.

Age is NOT an excuse.
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In what way he acts like 15yo? just because he has extra marital relationship doesn't mean he acts like 15.
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post Jun 18 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Jun 18 2012, 02:27 PM)
Nope, not being able to keep his d!ck to himself is.
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Some people has 'big appetite' . not everyone is like you, eat one bowl or rice. some need 2 bowl of rice
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post Jun 18 2012, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Jonrev @ Jun 18 2012, 02:51 PM)
aiyo.. then why u want get married in the first place? go cheong la, rm200 per session can satisfy for 1 hour.. can eat so many dishes.. eat till you old loh..
with your mentality, there is no reason for u to get married
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whos dupe are you? acting like a female. in real life is a male. some marry because people perception on you is better. got family means more steady , good for career advancement.
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post Jun 18 2012, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Jonrev @ Jun 18 2012, 02:58 PM)
what? girls dunno what is cheong? dunno market rate? pls la.. dont think girls so naive now la.. if u can prove i am a guy then prove it to me.
if you marry is for peoples perception then just put a ring on your finger, better than hurting ppl in real life
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You can lie to the whole world except me. I do not have to prove you are a guy anyway. if you think you are a female then fine.
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post Jun 18 2012, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:23 PM)
Sounds like you can't keep your d!ck in your pants neither.

What's wrong is wrong. No matter how you justify it. It's still wrong.
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okay lar righteous man. standing next to God. Our sinful world is not suitable for you, pls migrate to another planet.

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post Jun 18 2012, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(cutiesbaby312 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:26 PM)
people nowadays are just getting more and more complicated.

frm 'eating fish' outside of marriage is acceptable until married with purposes. what happened to the 'true love' .. and don't hav to sound me that im living in a fairy world.

jacqy, its good that u shared with us ur valuable opinions but the fact is, TS is asking for advice on how to deal with an unacceptable situation at home rather than listening to all ur theories of 'no wrong having a bigger appetite' advice.
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If you think true love still exists. then go on believing. sometimes it is good to live in a perceived wonderful world. to the question ts asked, I already answered in one of my replies.


Added on June 18, 2012, 3:49 pm
QUOTE(Jonrev @ Jun 18 2012, 03:30 PM)
there is no reason for me to pretend to be a girl here, i think u got problem with thinking that girls know a lot more stuff than they are supposed to know. yes i know bcoz my bf have frens who goes cheong whom are single and that does not bother me one bit. i dont need to prove anything to u.
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okay jonrev. my bad for thinking you are a guy. If you think you are a female , i m fine. bcoz i m not having sex with you. so doesn't bother me.

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post Jun 18 2012, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(adrianteo @ Jun 18 2012, 04:12 PM)
You are right when you say you are entitled to your own opinions. I don't think anyone can dispute your rights. But it goes back to the fundamental understanding of morally right or wrong.

I read through your replies and i am really amazed on how you argued your opinions.

Wrong is wrong, having an affair is wrong no matter how you say or defend it. Having an affair plus having an extra "offspring" through other woman (be it accidently or intentionally) is wrong.

I don't understand your statement when you say, if he is happy, he can do it lah. Sorry, this is purely an irresponsible statement.

You don't make yourself happy at the expense of your family. Humans are selfish yes, but there is a limit and you clearly cross that with your thinking.

Yeah this world is evil, and that's because of people thinking like you.....People who thinks that a wrong is right because is right to him even though it is not right.
Is just as good as saying, you gonna rape a girl because you have "big" appetite and you will take responsibility afterwards. So, to you, this is not wrong isn't it?
Back to TS issue, i think is a very hard decision for you right now. But i personally think your mum will be hurt someday, is just a matter of time whether the truth is reveal now or later.

Perhaps you should speak to your father first??
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1st point, I personally believe one should be happy. If he feels happy with that woman and wants to bore a child with her , go ahead. since ts is i assume in his 20s. I believe he can take care of the mother himself financially even without the father support. If ts is like a small kid, I would advice the father not to have affair and have another kid, since his ts is till young. Better not to break up the family, as it will afffect the upbringing of ts.

2nd point, you are talking abt rape. entirely different thing. I not gonna even discuss abt that.


Added on June 18, 2012, 4:29 pm
QUOTE(cutiepooh @ Jun 18 2012, 04:20 PM)
TS just wanted some opinions and ideas from us and funny how I can read something really out of topic like jayqc. Are you a god, saint, king or the only man in the world? Stop telling people how logically your instincts or experiences or real life you have met doesn't mean other should agree. Yes I agree guys got their freedom to have fun outside so do women. From all of your replies, I don't see any advices but kept telling others whatever a man do is always right. ----------------> Not every man got the same thinking like you do whistling.gif
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TS question

QUOTE(untitled99 @ Jun 16 2012, 04:04 PM)
Recently, i discovered that my dad has a child with a china woman outside. I felt so angry but i couldnot do anything.
My dad is about 57 years old with a new born baby child! That could be even be his grandson. We are aware that my dad has been flirting around outside and my mom has been so good too him. Take caring of 3 children, we are now all grown ups and discovered this.

I couldnot tell my mom about this, but at the moment I am not sure what will be the consequence if my mom found out.
And my mom even tried to kill herself many years ago after she discovered that my dad had an affair.

Feel so helpless and I could only keep this secret and wait for the it to be revealed by itself one day. What i really worried is my mom.
What should/can i do? Do you guys think I should confront with my dad?
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i answer ts question again more precisely. If I am in ts shoes, I would hide this from my mom. I would advice my dad to at least still care for mom eventhou he has another family outside. If my mom really found out, I would of coz console my mom and tell her not to feel bad abt it. that is life. accept it. dad still loves you no matter what. and tell me mom you would prefer dad still active and healthy and even can take care of another child better than him sickly and lying on the bed to be cared of. I prefer to think positively.

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