One can sit for the plab test, and if...
Let's say i pass the test, is it LIKELY that i get to work in the UK

2nd Question:
I get a local degree from Malaysia(IMU), let's say i want to be a specialist.
Can i study my "specialist" in UK?

3rd Question:
Why is the St George University route via Taylor's unpopular?Any idea?


This post has been edited by Mr Kong: Jan 7 2013, 05:49 PM

the pmc irish degree is recognised in ireland...that does not mean graduates can work there, as working means finding a JOB.....which is extremely difficult now....going forward, even those internationals who studied fully in ireland may not find intern jobs in ireland, as is happening in australia, and going to happen in uk.....

Ok. Noted.
But isn't it the same for housemanship jobs in UK?

1: no

2: no

3: too strict. They want minimum 3a at a levels, AND acceptable performance while at taylors....that weeds out the majority of intending students.....might as well go imu-pms(easier to get in, no need 3a, more choices) or direct entry into uk.....

....Which means if you have a local IMU medical degree.
Your can only study your specialist here in Malaysia?

i think people will have to accept that a msian medical qualification (including foreign degrees obtained in msia) means restriction to work in msia only.....forget about overseas....

exception being spore recognising um/ukm degrees.....

yes...numed graduates will be unlikely to be able to work in uk...

for those in uk med schools, all 2012 graduates who applied for fy got placements.....placement results for 2013 will only come out next month, based on the numbers, probably all will also get jobs...but projected numbers for 2014 suggest some may NOT get placement from there on....

I am very curious about how you found about the requirements for St George's?
Did you call Taylor's and ask them about it?
You are right, they want 3A's.
But i am curious though,
if a person gets 2A 1B and does well in the medical course in Taylor's, will they actually take in the student?
Because i called Taylor's and they claimed that 5 places are being offered
Besides, they dont seem to advertise too much on St George because not too many universities offering medical in Malaysia has partners in UK.
What do you think?

This post has been edited by Mr Kong: Jan 7 2013, 06:10 PM

it is (well, was) in their website...

the requirement is from st georges, not taylors...they have allocation for 5 places, but they don't have to take any, if there is none qualified....

i don't know why people are not keen....it is actually pretty easy to get 3a....some uk med schools are already requiring (still relatively easy) a*aa.....anyone with less than 3a should NOT be allowed to do medicine.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jan 7 2013, 06:15 PM

But i am really surprised.
But it's a risk for people who dont meet the requirement for A-Level and yet satisfy their "acceptable performance" in Taylor's
They don't have a percentage, so it isn't clear.

if you don't have 3a, you are automatically excluded from the st georges pathway....

But isn't that a little bit unfair?
St George is essentially saying "You were not that good once, i do not care how good you are now, we do not want you."
Besides, i have another question.
Can an IMU local medical degree holder study(not work) his specialist in Australia?

You need to have a job in Australia, in order to get into specialty training. What is your understanding of "study specialist"?

Working 4 years in the government which is compulsory in Malaysia.
Here's the part I want to know.
Can you do your POSTGRADUATE DEGREE
(Master, MRCP, FRCS, etc) in UK or Australia with an IMU local degree and

If Yes
2nd question:
After getting your postgraduate degree from the respective country, is it likely that you get to WORK in that country?

This post has been edited by Mr Kong: Jan 7 2013, 06:30 PM

Have you gone to this blog -

www.pagalavan.com

Please do, and spend some time reading his posts relating to medical education.

For 1st question - yes, MRCP can be done by an MBBS/MD holder, we have exam centers in KL and Singapore. Recognition is another matter to be considered. Masters? In what? Non-professional/clinical masters can be done in the UK, they have 1 year taught course Masters program there (eg: Masters in immunology/ Masters in health administration, etc)

For 2nd question - Even if you got MRCP, that wont guarentee you can work in UK. Heh

why unfair?....they are not in the business of giving 2nd chances....there are more than enough candidates with better than 3a results to choose their students from.....

i told you already, there is no such thing as a specialist masters in uk...

and i told you already, with an imu degree you cannot do postgraduate training elsewhere....

however, you can do the mrcp exam....

and 2nd question, no.....ability to register qualification is dependent on the primary qualification....therefore cannot work.....

note that these 'specialist qualifications' like mrcp, frcs, fracp etc does NOT qualify one to be a specialist in these countries....in the uk, you need the cct cert from gmc....

Someone needs to take time to explain to layman.
MRCP/MRCS/MRCPCH are EXAMS that you can take, AND MALAYSIA recognise those qualifications so in MALAYSIA you are eligible to be gazetted to be a specialist once you cleared those exams.

In UK they are more of an entrance exam that you have to clear before you are eligible for advanced specialty training. To be admitted to the GMC as a specialist (Ie FRCS FRACP watever you can think of), you need to TRAIN in the UK in accredited rotations in an accredited position, which means, you will have to WORK THERE, which means YOU WILL HAVE TO GET A JOB THERE.

You dont "study" postgraduate qualification for, let say, 6 years, then come out as a specialist.

You "work" in an accredited position for 6 years, let say, physician or surgeon, and then you pass your exams along the way, and exit as a specialist.

This post has been edited by tqeh: Jan 7 2013, 07:50 PM

Hey medical students,
I have a doubt here. If I want to do MBBS, which pre-u study should I choose?
Some say A-Levels and some say Foundation in Science.
I'm so confused. I seriously need opinions from seniors Please help...