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post Jan 6 2013, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Raymond7693 @ Jan 6 2013, 04:27 PM)
Why should get blasted for asking??...isnt tht the whole purpose of a forum to discuss and ask question...is there such thing as a less demanding forum??? all im asking is which med schools in malaysia that are not very particular about good a level results e.g (CCC) realistically speaking about acceptance of those results, as in anyone got get in?
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QUOTE(Raymond7693 @ Jan 6 2013, 04:27 PM)
Why should get blasted for asking??...isnt tht the whole purpose of a forum to discuss and ask question...is there such thing as a less demanding forum??? all im asking is which med schools in malaysia that are not very particular about good a level results e.g (CCC) realistically speaking about acceptance of those results, as in anyone got get in?
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You got C's for A-levels? Is that equivalent to C of STPM eg; 2.00 GPA?
If so, you will be told by actual doctors here not to do MBBS/MD.
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post Jan 6 2013, 05:06 PM

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Hi.
My friend wants to know let's say he gets a LOCAL medical degree from IMU.
As far as i know, IMU's local medical degree is only recognised by Malaysia and Sri Lanka government.
Can he do his specialist/master in UK?
Because his IMU local degree only is only recognised here and not UK.
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post Jan 6 2013, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 6 2013, 05:18 AM)
it is worrying, when students decide, even before they even graduate (and some, even before managing to enter med school) what they want to do on the basis of money.....not interest and talent....
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Limeuu,
Having said that, lotsa my consultants in hospital are pretty "$-minded". The first detail they look at (especially surgeons) for patient is whether or not he/she has private health insurance. If they have, they will try to drag them across to private and speed up the procedure.

Why cant people ask about which specialty makes more money? lol. And also, which specialty is more employable/ more business/ more jobs around.

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 6 2013, 05:06 PM)
Hi.
My friend wants to know let's say he gets a LOCAL medical degree from IMU.
As far as i know, IMU's local medical degree is only recognised by Malaysia and Sri Lanka government.
Can he do his specialist/master in UK?
Because his IMU local degree only is only recognised here and not UK.
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Short answer, no.
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post Jan 6 2013, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(tqeh @ Jan 6 2013, 05:51 PM)
Limeuu,
Having said that, lotsa my consultants in hospital are pretty "$-minded". The first detail they look at (especially surgeons) for patient is whether or not he/she has private health insurance. If they have, they will try to drag them across to private and speed up the procedure.

Why cant people ask about which specialty makes more money? lol. And also, which specialty is more employable/ more business/ more jobs around.
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I'm kinda interested to know how is the 'market' like in Malaysia.

As for specialties, In Aus, surgeons earn A LOT. Then comes GP (not all), then the physicians. But this is just too general.
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jan 6 2013, 04:50 PM)
You got C's for A-levels? Is that equivalent to C of STPM eg; 2.00 GPA?
If so,  you will be told by actual doctors here not to do MBBS/MD.
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no my question is do student with those results get accepted??if so whr??....im duin computer science...i wana noe well for the sake of knowing
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QUOTE(Raymond7693 @ Jan 6 2013, 07:37 PM)
no my question is do student with those results get accepted??if so whr??....im duin computer science...i wana noe well for the sake of knowing
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Some newly opened private uni and Russia mainly.
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post Jan 6 2013, 09:10 PM

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You don't get 3 Bs in STPM or A levels here, no way. Even the lowest tier uni. Alternative is foundation which is a joke!
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post Jan 6 2013, 10:00 PM

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yes, as long as you pay the fees, some med schools will accept ccc or lower....

which is why 2 years ago, mmc had to draw up guidelines on what the minimum qualifications should be.....and they placed 5b at spm in sciences/math and bbb at stpm/3.0 at matrik as minimum.....

that is why many ipts now cannot fill up places, as there is a lack of people with money AND minimum qualifications...they do 'accept' weaker applicants, and tell them to 'appeal' to mmc....

what happens when someone with ccc graduates with a medical degree and wants to get registration, nobody knows as yet....

the simplest solution for the ipts med schools is to conduct their own 'foundation' and give all their students '3.0'.......


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QUOTE(Raymond7693 @ Jan 6 2013, 07:37 PM)
no my question is do student with those results get accepted??if so whr??....im duin computer science...i wana noe well for the sake of knowing
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sake of knowing?..... really?....

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2657368&hl=

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jan 6 2013, 09:10 PM)
You don't get 3 Bs in STPM or  A levels here, no way. Even the lowest tier uni. Alternative is foundation which is a joke!
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yeah, that's true.

why would someone who got 3Cs in STPM / A Levels want to do medicine in the first place? the grades at A Levels give somewhat quite a good barometer whether one has the capability to study medicine. even straight As students found medical school to be super duper demanding.



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QUOTE(Stamp @ Jan 6 2013, 10:51 PM)
yeah, that's true.

why would someone who got 3Cs in STPM / A Levels want to do medicine in the first place? the grades at A Levels give somewhat quite a good barometer whether one has the capability to study medicine. even straight As students found medical school to be super duper demanding.
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A lot of them are ignorant and not knowing what they are venturing into. Even if they got in, they might not like the course or they might drop out after semester 1. I've even seen straight As quitting after 1 semester. But good on them as they found their real passion in life smile.gif
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Jan 6 2013, 05:55 PM)
Short answer, no.
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I took this from IMU's Medical brochure.
"Many Malaysian doctors who attend the local course also sit the membership
examinations of the UK colleges and thus end up with postgraduate qualifications
from the UK as well."

I am not questioning your answer, I understand that reality may sometimes be different.
But why do you say NO,he can't do his specialist/master in UK?


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post Jan 7 2013, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 03:59 PM)
I took this from IMU's Medical brochure.
"Many Malaysian doctors who attend the local course also sit the membership
examinations of the UK colleges and thus end up with postgraduate qualifications

from the UK as well."

I am not questioning your answer, I understand that reality may sometimes be different.
But why do you say NO,he can't do his specialist/master in UK?
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You cannot GO to UK to do postgraduate but you can sit in Bolehland some of those UK based qualifications. I am not too sure what is the difference. It could be some external qualifications similar to Law but cannot practice in UK.
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OK. I have another enquiry.
What about Penang Medical College's programme?
Their Medical Degree is recognised by Ireland.
Is it possible to do post graduate in UK?

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 04:37 PM)
OK. I have another enquiry.
What about Penang Medical College's programme?
Their Medical Degree is recognised by Ireland.
Is it possible to do post graduate in UK?
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I doubt the PMC degree is recognised in Ireland. It is something like Manipal with the pre-clinical in Ireland and the the clinicals in Penang. The quality of PMC is no longer the same compared with those of 5 years ago.

Even Numed in Johor is not recognised in UK though UK may be coming out with a new category to classify these off-shore campus. It is not likely to allow even such graduates to practice in UK unless graduating from UK including IMU-PMS students.
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Quote from PMC's website:
"The MB BCh BAO degrees are recognised by the IMC (Irish Medical Council), MMC (Malaysian Medical Council), Sri Lankan Medical Council as well as other regulatory bodies throughout the world. The degrees allow the holder to pursue postgraduate training worldwide."

But the PMC option isn't better than a local IMU degree,no?
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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 6 2013, 05:06 PM)
Hi.
My friend wants to know let's say he gets a LOCAL medical degree from IMU.
As far as i know, IMU's local medical degree is only recognised by Malaysia and Sri Lanka government.
Can he do his specialist/master in UK?
Because his IMU local degree only is only recognised here and not UK.
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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 03:59 PM)
I took this from IMU's Medical brochure.
"Many Malaysian doctors who attend the local course also sit the membership
examinations of the UK colleges and thus end up with postgraduate qualifications
from the UK as well."


I am not questioning your answer, I understand that reality may sometimes be different.
But why do you say NO,he can't do his specialist/master in UK?
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these are different things......and don't confuse the two.....

any doctor from a listed uni (and there are several 'lists') can register and sit for the exams, once they satisfy pre-requisites.....

'doing specialisation (there is NO such thing as 'masters' as specialist qualification in uk) in uk' means WORKING there, and that is not possible, as the imu degree is not recognised there, therefore not registrable...albeit one can sit for the plab test and if passed, can register with gmc....


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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 04:37 PM)
OK. I have another enquiry.
What about Penang Medical College's programme?
Their Medical Degree is recognised by Ireland.
Is it possible to do post graduate in UK?
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ireland is a completely different country from the uk...

the pmc irish degree is NOT recognised by the gmc....therefore no, cannot work in uk....

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QUOTE(Mr Kong @ Jan 7 2013, 05:33 PM)
Quote from PMC's website:
"The MB BCh BAO degrees are recognised by the IMC (Irish Medical Council), MMC (Malaysian Medical Council), Sri Lankan Medical Council as well as other regulatory bodies throughout the world. The degrees allow the holder to pursue postgraduate training worldwide."

But the PMC option isn't better than a local IMU degree,no?
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note that gmc is NOT mentioned....

the pmc degree has one extra country that recognises it over imu-mbbs....ie ireland....

note that it is now almost impossible for pmc graduates to get a housemanship job in ireland due shortages of places.....

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