Thank you!

Out of interest, what is the specialist training pathway (medical) in Australia like? If an international Oz grad gets an internship posting, will he/she then be able to apply through on equal footing with the aussies?

oz post graduate training is much more restricted than uk....

the restriction is based on the visa you are on....internationals staying on for internship uses the 457 work visa.....That allows a maximun of 4 years stay, under sponsorship by accredited employers....but after the intenship, when you start looking for rmo jobs, priority will be given to residents (ie citizens and prs) before they offer jobs to work visa doctors...

generally they do not take in non residents for surgical training....and for gp trainings, you cannot do training in metropolitan rotations if you are NOT a resident when you started your medical school....

therefore the priority for most people is to quickly apply for a pr (189) visa once they are eligible, ie after full registration on completion of internship....

once you are a pr, you are on par, and selected on the basis of merit...(with the same proviso for gp training)....

So one can apply for PR status much earlier, compared to UK's 10 years stay condition. That's a good thing then. So the critical step would be to land an internship post after graduation. Thanks for the info. Australia still a better place to live, IMO.

If doctor is out of the sol list, it will be very difficult for internationals to secure training places since citizens and prs are preferred ? For that matter even RMO position.

This post has been edited by confirm: Feb 6 2017, 01:35 PM

If doctors are removed from the sol, internationals will no longer be eligible for internship, as that is based on the 457 visa, which is sol dependant...

The competent authority pathway will also close, as the work visa granted is also the 457...

Seeking some clarifications for those on IMU pathway to UK spending:
a) 3 Clinical years on Tier 4 student visa ,
b) another 2 years FY1 and FY2 on another Tier 4 work visa plus say,
c) 5 years post FY2 on Tier 2 visa (it should be possible right ?) ......
One would've met requirements for PR or it's Not ?

This post has been edited by zeng: Feb 6 2017, 06:38 PM

yes, theoretically you can make it, but those matched to nottingham (2 1/2yrs) and graduate entry warwick (2 years) may have problems....

Thank you.
And calling on current IMU PMS undergrads in Bukit Jalil ........

Is there anyone with MRCS exam experience? I need some advices..

Is there any truth or it is just fallacy....most IMU PMS students landed in Australia would have preferred to go to UK but they were not successful in their application.

obviously as conditions change, the preferences will also change....

in the past, and as recent as 3-4 years ago, oz was still the preferred destination for a lot of people, and many were shunted to uk because of the limited places available in oz pms....

but going forward, with the changes in conditions (smoothening in uk, potential closing of doors in oz), i suspect the preferences will have shifted to uk now....

theres two ways to go about getting a PR in the uk.

one is through the long residence pathway, whereby you stayed in the uk legally under visas for 10 years regardless.

The other is through working under tier 2 visa for 5 years. (you need to be under a working visa, so the tier 4 visa for fy1/2 + med school does not count).

However, in the end, its the same for imu grads. For non imu grads, the long term residence pathway will be faster since we have more years in med school (so 3 years post f2 is sufficient).

(currently taking a break from ICU.. not much is happening anyways)

I guess its cheaper as well.. oz is really expensive compared to uk. (except London)

Heck, direct entry to most UK med schools is even lower fees than IMU PMS (UK) programme!

yup, at my time.
direct entry fees were cheaper for pre clinical(even after converting!)
shows how much imu is charging for!

Queen's is one of them. But Glasgow fee is the same for all 5 years. At 42k pounds per year now is a bit crazy with our depreciating Ringgit.

some unis do preclinical clinical divide like queens as you said and mine.
yeah, one of my friend is studying in glasgow atm and its insane expensive.

My relative is there doing the final year. The locked-in fee 5 years ago was 28500 pounds per year and can cover 2 years at Queens.

What are the current competitive UKCAT and A level scores to secure offers from UK schools ? Is SPM/ O level result and medical related experiences critical ?

A very useful forum is: thestudentroom.co.uk. IIRC they have a general thread, and then individual medical school thread. It should be quite active at this time of the year, as offers will normally be made in March. Applicants should be discussing results, scores, interview invites etc.
Actually, academic results aside, personal statement is critical, as this determines if they are keen enough on the applicant to invite round for a chat.
I think for A levels, min is probably A*AA now, although most (esp Asians) had/have 3 or 4 A*.