Also, the latest from the London Daily Telegraph on foreign graduates:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/imm...-graduates.html

Election year! LOL

INTENDING MEDICAL STUDENTS AND PARENTS

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...ailing-industry

As the debate for separation of the roles of doctors and pharmacists lingers, general practitioners (GPs) are racing to safeguard their interests in the wake of impending losses and additional costs imposed on them.

More than 50 doctors will gather in a closed-door meeting in Kuantan tomorrow to discuss the implications of:

• Separating roles of doctors and pharmacies;

• Implementation of the goods and services (GST) tax;

• Upgrading equipment involved in treating foreign workers;

• Growing number of clinics folding up;

• Over 4,000 private doctors who have quit in 2013 alone, mostly due to losses.
- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...h.TcXHIxtt.dpuf

i don't know where they got their figures from, it is not that bad.....yet....

but yes, it will continue to get worse, as the cost of running a general medical practice increases, whereas the sources of income continue to get restricted with new regulations....

gst will increase prices, although patient are 'exempt' from paying gst, most upstream cost are not, and will get passed down as increased cost of doing business....

separation of prescribing and dispensing will further increase cost....as doctors increase consultation charges to cover loss of margin income from drugs.....

Published: Monday March 30, 2015 MYT 12:00:00 AM
Updated: Monday March 30, 2015 MYT 7:31:58 AM
Housemen do not complete training stint for various reasons

PETALING JAYA: One in every five doctors undergoing training as houseman in Malaysia quit each year, an alarming rate of drop out, considering the high cost of studying medicine.

It may cost up to RM500,000 to study medicine in Malaysia and up to RM1mil if it is completed abroad.

Many newly qualified doctors also quit because of the longer wait to be posted as housemen.

Those who left abruptly have been found working as waiters and even running pasar malam stalls and there has also been a case of a trainee doctor taking up a job as an air stewardess.

Deputy Health director-general Datuk Dr S. Jeyaindran said about 1,000 of the 5,000 housemen employed each year do not complete the two-year training stint.

Among the reasons for housemen to leave the service include unsuitability for the profession as they were pressured to study medicine by their parents.

Having a totally different perception of a doctor’s life, inability to work long hours and suffering from burnouts are the other causes.

He said the rise in numbers of housemen quitting had been growing over the past three years.

Dr Jeyaindran said as housemen were hired by the Public Services Department (PSD), the termination process was tedious and could take up to several months to more than a year.

“Until the person’s service is terminated, the vacancy cannot be filled and those who replace them have to wait for their turn to start,” he said in reply to questions submitted by The Star.

He said many of the housemen who left did not tender official resignation letters.

The large number of medical students graduating each year is another reason for the long wait for postings as a houseman, especially under the new e-houseman system, which allows for newly qualified doctors to choose the place of their posting.

While the average waiting time is about six months, it can be longer for the more popular postings in urban hospitals including the Kuala Lumpur Hospital.

“With 10,000 housemen in all the 45 training hospitals nationwide, these hospitals have varying degrees of waiting periods except for hospitals in Sabah, Sarawak, Kelantan and Terengganu,” Dr Jeyaindran said.

He said the ministry must explore other ways that allow for greater flexibility in employing housemen to replace those who had left.

He said the proposal to have a common entry or fitness to practice examination as proposed by the Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) was among the steps being considered.

Another was a longer induction period for housemen to have better understanding of their work.

“It is not to control numbers as proposed by MMA, but to ensure a minimum standard of competence. The common entry examination is already in place in some Asian countries, the United States and Australia and it might become necessary to ensure safe medical practice especially once there is a liberalisation of trades and services,” he said.

He said a houseman’s workload in Malaysia was lighter than those in other countries, adding that on average, housemen in Malaysia took charge of between four and six patients in a ward compared with eight to 12 in Singapore, Australia and the United States.

“Moreover, house officers in these countries work an average of 80 hours compared with the average of between 65 and 72 hours for Malaysian housemen,” he added.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015...arious-reasons/

the reason for the expected high drop out rate...in addition to people with poor academic ability unable to cope with the demands of real life doctoring....

meantime the scam of ptptn loans continue, and businessman running unis/med schools/enrolment agencies all have got their money....

Then comes this too:



New graduates being trolled by MOH with the e-houseman system... Heheheh...

eg: you want to get a job fast? Choose Sabah/Sarawak.


http://www.theborneopost.com/2014/12/20/ju...ouseman-system/

So means East Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak don't need to wait at all?

Still have to wait, but will get job faster since very few wants to come to Sabah/Sarawak (unless its their own home state)...

I Quote:

- SOS: http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015...arious-reasons/

Later... once they have completed housemanship in major Hospitals in Sabah/Sarawak... they will be posted further into the interior districts as M.O for several more years.... eg: Beluran, Pitas, Kinabatangan, Tenom, Simunjan, Kapit, Belaga, Lawas etc.... I LoLz...



This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Mar 30 2015, 02:05 PM

Still good prospects for the medical profession for those who have the passion.

But Pharmacy graduates seems to do better. The lady who quit as a houseman to become an adviser to a pharmaceutical company says she earns higher.

zstan, have you found a job?

Wah, dont pray pray choosing Sabah or Sarawak. Post to interior districts? Better get married earlier or die standing!

nope. still jobless waiting period was 9 months for the previous batch that just got posted

If the new graduates don't choose Sabah/Sarawak now, MOH will still make them go to Sabah/Sarawak once they become M.Os~

Oh no .... 9 months waiting ............ that's bad :-(

So, its time to carry your backpack and start going to your places you most wanted to go.

Do they ask you to report immediately or give you a reasonable notice period like 2 weeks?

Haha. I already went backpacking around the whole Taiwan for 30 days. Feel free to read my blog

Almost immediately but usually within a few days.. Having said that the letter of offer stands for 30 days.. So you can inform the JKN if you can't report on the first day..

Wow! It was great.

i have always wanted to backpack, but never had the opportunity....coincidentally, the short break between graduating and starting work i had was also spent in taiwan...but that was a very long time ago...

Any recommendations for surgical text for JMO/RMOs? or any comment of bailey & Love vs Sabiston? much appreciated.

i always find british textbooks easier to read, and more relevant to msia....americans tend to be different in many ways...