Whenever I met a girl that I like, we became really close buddies, till one day I decided to be honest and told her my hobbies: collecting robots/ vehicles/and very few anime girls (figma toys). The next day they pretended they dont even see me!

An otaku is a person who loves Japanese anime/manga and they tend to collect figures/ toys that relates to that particular manga they love.

A hentai is a person who is basically pervert. Fetish.

Hentai n Otaku not only doesnt sound the same, but they dont even share the same meaning too!! I dun really see why the girls only stay away and pretended i am invisible right after I decided to tell them this...

or am I fated to only date female otaku as well??

idk....coz usually the anime girls are dressed in sexy and big boobies, that automatically translates into "ham sap".

However if u collects Transformers or Gundam then that is different coz there are no sexy element

Whenever I met a girl that I like, we became really close buddies, till one day I decided to be honest and told her my hobbies: collecting robots/ vehicles/and very few anime girls (figma toys). The next day they pretended they dont even see me!

An otaku is a person who loves Japanese anime/manga and they tend to collect figures/ toys that relates to that particular manga they love.

A hentai is a person who is basically pervert. Fetish.

Hentai n Otaku not only doesnt sound the same, but they dont even share the same meaning too!! I dun really see why the girls only stay away and pretended i am invisible right after I decided to tell them this...

or am I fated to only date female otaku as well??

Girls in general are attracted to guys who can handle themselves in the real world. Being a so called otaku, you confine your interest in something made up or a sub-culture. Otaku, rabid gamers, star trekkies, etc ... they all fall into same category. They choose to 'live' in a made-up universe, disconnected to real life matters or worse not able to distinguish between realities. To some, this is unappealing or may be deemed as geeky.

This.

I want a real man who watch porn rather than a boy who watch cartoon.
Also, spending money on stupid toys, this is the main reason I couldn't stand at all.

           

So biased...
The same goes to girls liking shiny rocks which men can never understands why its "pretty"...

Whenever I met a girl that I like, we became really close buddies, till one day I decided to be honest and told her my hobbies: collecting robots/ vehicles/and very few anime girls (figma toys). The next day they pretended they dont even see me!

An otaku is a person who loves Japanese anime/manga and they tend to collect figures/ toys that relates to that particular manga they love.

Girls in general are attracted to guys who can handle themselves in the real world. Being a so called otaku, you confine your interest in something made up or a sub-culture. Otaku, rabid gamers, star trekkies, etc ... they all fall into same category. They choose to 'live' in a made-up universe, disconnected to real life matters or worse not able to distinguish between realities. To some, this is unappealing or may be deemed as geeky.

I want a real man who watch porn rather than a boy who watch cartoon.
Also, spending money on stupid toys, this is the main reason I couldn't stand at all.

Don't be so close minded, porn in any form be it high budget, amateur, webcam, hentai, comics, erotic stories, etc all have their own merits. Its how you use such material that makes the difference whether the person is creepy or not.

As for spending money on toys, what's the problem with that? Any different from women spending money on shoes/handbags? Its what they want to spend on, as long as they can afford it why not let them do what makes them happy? Why judge them for it?

Men never really grow up, there's always a little boy in him still. That boy is necessary to keep a man happy and in a sound state of mind, and every boy in a man has their own thing that makes them happy. If a man losses that part of him, a huge part of him dies inside. Look at any man who is happy and successful, there's always some stupid boyish thing he's doing on his free time.

hmmmm most girls tat i knw of, liks mature guys,
to listen to them, talk to them, make them feel safe.
well to b frank, these girls tat i knw of, r in college.

ts, r u in college or high skool ?
mayb they think ur childish.
to the girls, we guys likin anime n manga,
is similar to a 6-10yr old watchin doraemon. XD

if ur attitude, action, everything all heavily influenced by these japanese anime and shows... no gals will ever date u, except those same species otaku gal like u...

so, TS... u most likely is gona be a forever-loner.
cant blame u oso, many gals always think collect these stuffs are childish, not mature...
TS, u shud ask the her... define what is mature!
coz, in this situation, gals will say u are not mature, u're childish! say u nvr grow up...
u better forget your whatever future with this gal.

Please read the title itself Girls, would u date an otaku?, No, not talkin abt Hentai

First of all this has nothing to do with men and women.

It's about Otaku itself, the hobbies and interests.

Second of all, TS is asking would girls date an otaku, I for as a girl giving TS my own opinion that I will not and the reason stated. Otaku is not the kind of man I want/desire as one of ex is actually an otaku, which is why he's an ex.

^Listen to him. something to highlight at my point down there.


^Listen to him too


^Best way to identify your best friends and future wife.

Back to the topic, well I'm lucky to date a girl with similar hobby as mine. She loves to get those cute capsule toys and watches anime too. I met both otaku and non-otaku girls and they behave differently towards my hobby (anime, game, toys). Some ok some not or some just being polite, overall no point force someone who can't accept your hobby as your close buddy.

The world always have this bias mindset when it comes to personal preference. The truth is the so call open minded society are not open mind enough. They just put mainstream as the righteous and the rest are evil. Consider ourselves fortunate if a girl is open minded to accept our hobby.

Well I see that I had a few going on a defensive with my views. I did not put down any anime lovers. My context of discussion is with regards to someone who is on the extreme side. I'm not saying being otaku is bad, I just saying why certain people find a real otaku as a turnoff.

But of course, I do realize here the Generation Y out numbers Generation X'ers ...so what am I thinking? You guys love your anime and collectibles. But you know what ? I know girls that are ambitious to climb up corporate ladders, girls that had to raise siblings while parents earn money, girls raised by strict family and are religious, girls who love adventures like diving, mount climbing, marathons. These are everyday people. What do they think of otaku guys? ... take a guess.

Nobody is saying being otaku is wrong. If you are all talking about smart, modern outgoing women presented with an otaku , ask yourself: turn on/turn off ?
Of course you can always look for a girl who like the same stuff as you do. Then problem solved.

do you have any other hobbies besides this?

i guess that's pretty normal. at least collecting figures is better than smoking.

try to go out more on weekends lar~ join activities, vonlunteering.

Girls in general are attracted to guys who can handle themselves in the real world. Being a so called otaku, you confine your interest in something made up or a sub-culture. Otaku, rabid gamers, star trekkies, etc ... they all fall into same category. They choose to 'live' in a made-up universe, disconnected to real life matters or worse not able to distinguish between realities. To some, this is unappealing or may be deemed as geeky.

This is proven by some forumer here, that will always generalize us as childish people who cannot adapt the society, waste money for unnecessary thing. As if spending money on handbags, IT gadget, clubbing will make them much better "adult". See my first quote for the perfect generalization of anime fans.

You can always start a relationship by hiding all the things u love. IMO faking myself for the rest of my life is not the way I want to be.

Whenever I met a girl that I like, we became really close buddies, till one day I decided to be honest and told her my hobbies: collecting robots/ vehicles/and very few anime girls (figma toys). The next day they pretended they dont even see me!

An otaku is a person who loves Japanese anime/manga and they tend to collect figures/ toys that relates to that particular manga they love.

A hentai is a person who is basically pervert. Fetish.

Hentai n Otaku not only doesnt sound the same, but they dont even share the same meaning too!! I dun really see why the girls only stay away and pretended i am invisible right after I decided to tell them this...

or am I fated to only date female otaku as well??

You brought it up
Considering it is about a man with hobbies that a woman cannot understand, no it has everything to do with men and women. Hobbies are only a part of a person, if you judge a person by that part simply cause you can't understand it; ignoring his other parts, then that's just being prejudiced and close minded.

Exactly, and my point is that such hobbies/interests are fine and there's nothing wrong with it. Just like any other hobby or interest, its fine as long as you don't take it to the extreme. Like some of the others have noted, people who rather buy toys instead of paying their insurance premiums, car loans, etc. that's bad, but that's not the fault of their hobby, its the character itself, they would be doing the same thing regardless of what the hobby is.
yes, that's you, but you don't speak for all girls and it would be bad for TS to take you as an example because frankly your view point is rather narrow on this, and seems badly marred/biased due to previous experience.

I want a real man who watch porn rather than a boy who watch cartoon.
Also, spending money on stupid toys, this is the main reason I couldn't stand at all.

*Sigh* There are female Otaku ok ? I personally know few of them myself even though I still find them unattractive and boring. I repeat this has nothing to do with men and women.

*Sighhhhhhhhh* Just wake up make me sigh so dem much time 
I find Otaku unattractive esp their hobbies and interests, since when did I say every girls think the same way with me or did I say I represent every girls to answer TS ?

It's not my fault for finding Otaku unattractive, if you feel offended because you happens to be one of them, it's not my fault either.
It's just personal preferences, there are guys I know who actually prefer materialistic girls, even though I strongly disagree them to find one but still I wish them the best.

quit the debate and lets yamcha next week lolz 

You woke up at 2?

Jew gonna brainwash me with your anime power ?   

This is where I put my villain cloak on. There is a very fine line between self motivation and making excuses for yourself.

Let me be the a$$hole for saying this. I don't get anything for saying this, in fact i might just get more hate but just food for thought.

People who don't feel they are good enough always whine. Then others will come and say things like 'be yourself', 'your friends are the problem, not you', 'the right person will accept you for the real you'. Great right ? The problem is with other who don't see the real you. It's not your problem. Just continue being the imbalanced you.

We must always improve. There is always a better version of you if you are willing to strive for it. If you see a girl you like, then be the better guy that is worthy of her love. Don't give lazy excuses like she will come around and accept me for who i am. Positive thinkers think of it as improvements. Negative thinkers think of it as changing to impress others.

You want to stay who you are fine, but if she or people never come around to accept you, don't be bitter and say they look down on you. Your happiness is your own responsibility, other people are just busy looking after theirs.

This is where I put my villain cloak on. There is a very fine line between self motivation and making excuses for yourself.

Let me be the a$$hole for saying this. I don't get anything for saying this, in fact i might just get more hate but just food for thought.

People who don't feel they are good enough always whine. Then others will come and say things like 'be yourself', 'your friends are the problem, not you', 'the right person will accept you for the real you'. Great right ? The problem is with other who don't see the real you. It's not your problem. Just continue being the imbalanced you.

We must always improve. There is always a better version of you if you are willing to strive for it. If you see a girl you like, then be the better guy that is worthy of her love. Don't give lazy excuses like she will come around and accept me for who i am. Positive thinkers think of it as improvements. Negative thinkers think of it as changing to impress others.

You want to stay who you are fine, but if she or people never come around to accept you, don't be bitter and say they look down on you. Your happiness is your own responsibility, other people are just busy looking after theirs.

what does it have to do with improving? TS says hes an otaku and girls cant accept that. its a hobby.. maybe a lifestyle for some people. how do you actually "improve" on that?

if she doesn't accept you, shes not worth it. this guy doesnt know what hes talking about.

..and right on queue, my point is demonstrated here. People don't accept you then the problem is with them.
Sometimes we should ask ourselves, what makes us worthy of her acceptance ? Put yourself in the other party's shoes. If you think its all about you, and not about you understanding and decrypting her wants/needs, then you are in for a roller coaster ride.

you're asking him to change himself because he doesn't meet another person's expectations? we're not talking about his attitude or whatever here.. for all i know, he could be the biggest douchebag in malaysia, but thats not on the topic.

he likes anime and uses his allowance on toys. why should he change what he enjoys for the sake of someone who can't appreciate him? i agree with your last point about understanding and acknowledging needs etc. but it just doesn't sound right to change himself when there is no problem in the first place. I'm confident he can find a partner who enjoys the things that he does as well, no?

One thing for sure i probably wont be changing my hobbies, but i can try controlling the urges to buy the toys...besides, nowdays even I apply the "buy 1 toy, sell 1 toy" policy. that way, i can buy as much as i want, and at the same time, it wont accumulate more in my room.

And fyi, I aint a douchebag. Lol. If i am one, girls wont even want to talk to me at all!

Anyway, toys aside. They're just my hobby, nothing more. That doesnt mean i dunno anything about recent events/ common interests/ etc. I dun think I need to explain what my extensions of my knowledge, and besides they are off topic.

From wad I hv read, it seems many of u guys still associates Otaku as a "Densha Otoko"/ "Crazy dude that lives in anime/cartoon world without any sense of reality". This is really sad. It is really biased and offensive to many ppl, wad about ppl that loves to collect shoes? or handbags? or teddy bears? or even hello kitties? wad do u call them then? Normal??

I started this topic is to explain to ppl that whenever a person shares with u a hobby, dun straight away judge and assume things...True, I admit i collect transformers. I dun lie. But that is also NOT the end of my story. Its like tell u "hi my name is XXX", and quickly u assumed "his name is XXX so he must be a  XXX, XXX, XXX and XXX". We are not psychic or mind readers, let that person finish his story first, then ask questions like "do u hv any other hobbies?" I am more than happy to share wif u wad i know....and u might even be surprised.

Dont judge a book by its cover. Just becoz u think a person who loves anime/cartoon is childish, it doesnt mean its 100% true. I hv a fren (who is sadly single guy too) and he loves anime more than I do, but do u know how much he earns monthly? More than RM6k leh!! And his yearly bonus? Over RM9k!!! Thats becoz when he works at office, he really works real hard, and his programming skills are amazing!! Do u think the boss is so stupid to hire a childish fella to work in his company?

you're asking him to change himself because he doesn't meet another person's expectations? we're not talking about his attitude or whatever here.. for all i know, he could be the biggest douchebag in malaysia, but thats not on the topic.

he likes anime and uses his allowance on toys. why should he change what he enjoys for the sake of someone who can't appreciate him? i agree with your last point about understanding and acknowledging needs etc. but it just doesn't sound right to change himself when there is no problem in the first place. I'm confident he can find a partner who enjoys the things that he does as well, no?

I find Otaku unattractive esp their hobbies and interests, since when did I say every girls think the same way with me or did I say I represent every girls to answer TS ?

It's not my fault for finding Otaku unattractive, if you feel offended because you happens to be one of them, it's not my fault either.
It's just personal preferences, there are guys I know who actually prefer materialistic girls, even though I strongly disagree them to find one but still I wish them the best.

I responded to your response because its your kind of bias that TS is having a problem with. Like you said, there are people who still have their own preferences like wanting a virgin gf (although they don't mind sexing them up). Its their preference, its their choice, yes, but it also doesn't change the fact that its close minded and stupid.

And that is what irks me, the close mindedness. It doesn't matter whether its about otakus, handbags, dolls, hello kitties, cars etc. to judge a person by their hobbies is incredibly close minded. You don't have to like what they do, but to think of them negatively for it, that's screwed up; just be neutral about it. You never know what the future holds, one day your BF (maybe husband at that time) might get into anime and start collecting stuff like that, what you gonna do then? Break/divorce? Just cause he started a hobby you find unattractive? I think we both agree that would be rather silly.

Like others have said here, you can't expect people to change nor can you force them to change. I agree to that too. So do I expect you to change after I said all this? No, I don't. Although you can't change people, you can explain things to them so they get a better perspective. Whether they decide to assimilate that new information or not, is their prerogative.

Yea, why ? 

Also, do tell me how could you possible to dislike something for no reason. It's like saying I dislike seafood because I dislike seafood ?
There must be a reason. If you see it negative that's what you see, some people like my friends even Otaku friends themself find it neutral

I'm very skinny and some of friends actually prefer chubby girls and my size turn them off, do I need make him sit down and explain how attractive I could be ? They find me unattractive, should I cry and start call them close minded and stupid too ? *Sigh*

And, No, it's not going to happen, my bf thinks the same as I do, it waste money, we rather save it up to buy more diapers for our future babies.

For the last time I will repeat this, I find them unattractive, their hobby turn me off, I had already try to understand it because of my ex and it still doesn't work. It's like asking my grandma enjoy Ax7's music, she will never understand nor she gonna likes it, should I call my grandma stupid as well ?

I had a feeling this was going to come up.

You are right, there are reasons you don't like something, do you ever question what does reasons are? Is it because of bias? prejudice? stereotype? misunderstanding? There are things you can't change because its simply personal preference or built over years of social influence (your looks fall under this category). There are however things that you dislike out of bias and prejudice, the current otaku subject falls under this category.

So why do "otakus" turn you off? I bet, If we were to continue this line of inquiry, we will find that whatever you dislike about "otakus" has nothing to do with the hobby itself, but the person's character. The hobby is just how the bad traits manifested itself. Though most likely due to bad experience you've falsely associated both together.
For now, who knows what it is in the future. It might not be otaku stuff, but he could be spending his disposable income on other hobbies (men tend to do this), and you're going to think its a waste of money too and arguments begin. The hobby is "useless", no "practical value", "childish", "money can be used for better things", etc. etc. etc. Do you see? the real problem has not been addressed yet. Its simply been shrouded/delayed.

I've been talking about the toys they collect - the hobby, I had never even talk about how their character, like I already explain, waste of money.
Still, I don't see how it is bias or prejudice, I dislike it and it doesn't attract me, just that easy.

Why do you have to keep thinking about my bf MIGHT get this kind of hobbies ? He's a very rational person, who plans and save, he did thought of getting a new car before I wanted to explain to him about the installment, roadtax and etc, he stops himself.

Otaku - Anime ; Girls - HK/T/K/J Drama, same thing. Some guys dislike this kind of girls because this kind of girls are obsessed with it, of course, I'm talking about the extreme ones who will be none stop buying it and watching it 24/7 at home, not those who watch anime/drama to kill their time.

Its stupid to focus on the hobby as though its the problem. I stress again, its the person's character that determines whether the outcome of the hobby will be bad/good. So focus on that, and learn that with the right character, any hobby he has will only make him happy and a better man.

Again, it is stupid to keep trying to explain to me when I already said I THINK IT IS UNATTRACTIVE. It's like me explaining how fun it is to watch footballs to my girl friends when they are more into fashion and stuff. I dislike it, my business ; Otaku likes it and this make them a better person, their business. 

Yes, but she doesn't judge you for it. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE

She will, that's her, I will back off and not explain to her how awesome Ax7 is, continue enjoy my music.

Nope, I do not expect that, what I do expect or at least want to see, is less bias and prejudice in people.
Its because they take everything personally. There's a difference between saying or doing something stupid vs actually being stupid.

Everyone has their stupid moments, and everyone has their own prejudices, most of the time we may not even realise it. I have not personally called you stupid, but you seem to have taken it that way. What I've said is that the prejudice and close-mindedness you're showing is stupid. Does that mean you're stupid? No, the context remains where it is. It does not translate to the person you are as a whole. Did you miss the part where I was saying its not right to judge a person from just one aspect of their character?

That is why, I also told you the reason you've been explaining to me because you happens to have this 'hobby' which I find it uncool and unattractive. The way you explain sounds to me you are actually forcing.
From the beginning, I was here to say NO and WHY, personal preferences. You came in and make it looks like Y U NO LIKE OTAKU ? They are great person yada yada yada which I later explained, unattractive but I did not and will not look down on them or change them or call them childish or waste money or whatsoever.

I think it's waste of money, maybe I'm a stingy person ? I'm poor ? I find it uncool ? My thoughts, I shall keep it to myself but since TS asked, I just gave my 2 cents, donate him a post. (which you also trying to twist my words earlier, defame me for speaking for all girls, I don't know why you wanna do that, well no need to explain this, I don't really care since I did not say that or the women vs men part, I still fail to see why it will appears in here since Otaku has both men and women )

The thing here is that (what I see), you were offended and thus, every words I say, you tend to see it like it's such a bad thing to say.
Also this is what I feel now.

The problem is with TS. The problem is NOT him liking anime or collecting plastics and metal. The problem is him not segregating his otaku universe with our world.

I disagree, the problem is neither the girls nor TS, it is simply him didn't meet the right person.

What's the point of hiding all the things he love just to maintain the relationship? If it is a turn off, it will always be a turn off. It is the matter of perception. It doesn't have to be otaku, it can happen to fishing, reading, movie, religion, food, drinks...

There is no way we can please everyone. Hiding one true self from the partner won't make the relationship any better. Simply pleasing someone might result making oneself unhappy. And I\it will lead to serious argument later on. Might as well get a girl that can accept the hobby. Don't defeat the purpose of having a relationship.

One of my most important criteria for relationship is "perception". If both cannot respect / agree / adapt the difference in perception, the relationship won't last.

i my self also is otaku, i dont mind my bf is otaku....or spend money on figures....just when i need BF he is there for me...not like say "please let me finish built this gundam or finish this anime first" or something like that then i am fine

Otaku is not the kind of man I want/desire as one of ex is actually an otaku, which is why he's an ex.

But dude, the problem is not that you collect anime figurines, its that you think of yourself as an otaku, and you seem to not think highly of otakus. If you just think of yourself as a guy who happens to like anime I would say there wouldn't be any problem.

i my self also is otaku, i dont mind my bf is otaku....or spend money on figures....just when i need BF he is there for me...not like say "please let me finish built this gundam or finish this anime first" or something like that then i am fine

lol...dude u dun even know more and u dah start accusing me of things which i am not. i am actually laughing as i am typing ur reply now.

1. i dun think negatively of otaku, did i say comments like "i hate being otaku" or "i wanna quit collecting transformers n quit anime"? I started the topic ASKING why girls reject me as an otaku. Several times I was best friends with the girls and when I reveal to them my hobbies, they were turned off and pretended I dont exist anymore.

For the last time I will repeat this, I find them unattractive, their hobby turn me off, I had already try to understand it because of my ex and it still doesn't work.

Shoot me, but not everyone who has hobbies or anime hobbies for example will portray themselves to be as one. For example, if you meet someone who totally looks normal, speaks normal, can make you laugh and carries himself like how a man should, maybe you might be interested in him.

But after dating him several times, he invites you to his home. You suddenly found out he is buying and collecting anime toys/models, would you find that unattractive? If you do, then that is prejudice and you prejudge him just from the fact that he has that hobby, even though he is just like any normal guy out there.

Would you suddenly change your opinion on him just based on the fact that he has that hobby? Now, if you tell me that when you go to his house, he suddenly puts on a costume and starts to act like an anime himself, then that would be reason enough to be turn off by that. I am sure many girls would. But if he is just like any ordinary guy, rejecting him for the fact that he buys the models is definitely prejudice to me.

This is so tiring to keep repeating the same thing.
Just bcuz I find it unattractive to me so you think it's prejudice ?
What happen if there's guy who dated me for several times and he found out that I smoke, he dislike it and he finds me unattractive, I should go and tell grow up ?

Moreover, you don't date a person if u do not know him/her much, isn't it ? Esp the girls, we tend to date guys more carefully.
U don't want to hear my bad experience dating few guys without understand them much and almost got rape.

Still I don't see why u guys keep calling me bias and prejudice, I don't like means I don't like la, u syok u continue syok with what that makes you syok loh.

Moreover, you don't date a person if u do not know him/her much, isn't it ? Esp the girls, we tend to date guys more carefully.
U don't want to hear my bad experience dating few guys without understand them much and almost got rape.

Whenever I met a girl that I like, we became really close buddies, till one day I decided to be honest and told her my hobbies: collecting robots/ vehicles/and very few anime girls (figma toys). The next day they pretended they dont even see me!

An otaku is a person who loves Japanese anime/manga and they tend to collect figures/ toys that relates to that particular manga they love.

A hentai is a person who is basically pervert. Fetish.

Hentai n Otaku not only doesnt sound the same, but they dont even share the same meaning too!! I dun really see why the girls only stay away and pretended i am invisible right after I decided to tell them this...

or am I fated to only date female otaku as well??

This.

I want a real man who watch porn rather than a boy who watch cartoon.
Also, spending money on stupid toys, this is the main reason I couldn't stand at all.

If this world full of this kind of human, then u shall live in jungle.

Human revolusion until today bcos of imagination & logical thingking.

If like u said, they r sooo childish, then pls don't use the goolge eye hud.
Bcos the concept r based on Dragan ball Fliza team, a device to track his oppenent.

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Added on June 4, 2012, 5:56 pmbtw, back to Ts. R u look so OTaku.

Girl r like this, Just find a girl who r no clubbing (public toilet).

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Added on June 4, 2012, 6:06 pmFamiliar it is??? triberium sun or starwar?? U call it Toy??

If this world full of this kind of human, then u shall live in jungle.

Human revolusion until today bcos of imagination & logical thingking.

If like u said, they r sooo childish, then pls don't use the goolge eye hud.
Bcos the concept r based on Dragan ball Fliza team, a device to track his oppenent.

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Added on June 4, 2012, 5:56 pmbtw, back to Ts. R u look so OTaku.

Girl r like this, Just find a girl who r no clubbing (public toilet).

look who's living in the jungle now ?

I guess I don't have to explain my thoughts anymore since someone else already did.

U are not my cup of tea. I prefer coffee, u just drink ur green tea. Y u rage bcuz I no choose green tea like u did ?

You keep saying that, but I don't think it's comparable at all. Having different tastes in food and drink is not the same as passing unreasonable judgments on people.