this will apply to all cutting phase where users will be in a calorie deficit state. Mind you that BMR and Calorie Maintenance is different. I have a 1619 kcal for BMR and 2509kcal for maintenance. My daily calorie intake is 80% from my maintenance which is 2000kcal; which is far higher than my BMR. So, why people can successfully decrease the fat?

Beware of body adapt keto diet, finally the entire body adapt fat metabolism, and the body forgot how to metabolise carbs in future.
When u take carbs back, the body will easily convert carbs to fat for metabolise, because your body lose function to metabolise carb.
In short term keto works. But long term when you retake carbs, you will getting fatter.
Just my 2 cents.

would you mind clarify how long is long term? And would you give me a link about this?

Regarding keto. can you relaly lift heavy on low carb or keto diet? if one can break PR, i think he consume sufficient carb like more than 50g before the lifting. i dont think fat and protein can be used for anaerobic workout. got any links that proof otherwise?

Our body have two sources of energy, from carb (glycgen) and fat (ketones). Human usually uses carb as their energy sources. But once you are on Keto, our body will try to use fat as energy since there is very low carb is being consume (less than 30g). In other word, our body still have energy but from another source which is fat. After the adjustment period (body adjusting from using carb as energy to fat as energy), our body will feel better and not tired/lethargic as per during the adjustment period.

So, by saying that it is hard to lift heavy because of low-carb is not true as fat is the primary energy source, not carb.

There is a source of energy call atp...
It store in muscle glycogen, during a short intense exercise (anaerobic, lets say less than 30 second, muscles are using atp, if atp is not enough , body will break our muscle convert to atp for energy, means u burn muscle.

Fatty acid only burning when low intensity exercise and at resting mode (walking, sleeping)

Most bodybuilder weight training in their high carb day and do cardio in their low carbs day.

Correct me if im mistaken

That is true. You can increase your atp by using creatine. But then, there is a different between aerobic exercises and Keto diet. Aerobic exercises uses fat as energy. During your body in Ketosis state where your body is out of glycogen, the liver will start to product ketones; a byproduct of fatty acids. Instead of relying to atp for energy, the body uses ketones as source of energy.

this will apply to all cutting phase where users will be in a calorie deficit state. Mind you that BMR and Calorie Maintenance is different. I have a 1619 kcal for BMR and 2509kcal for maintenance. My daily calorie intake is 80% from my maintenance which is 2000kcal; which is far higher than my BMR. So, why people can successfully decrease the fat and will not get fat if they consume carb but still under calorie deficit?

Because the simple science behind it is calorie in vs calorie out

Finally I broke my Keto Diet on the 5 1/2 day. I need the energy for my workout late this evening and since I'll be paying the gym entrance fees instead of going to my usual free gym, I want to get the most out of it.
There is a thread in bodybuilding.com about weightlifting and Keto. Actually, there is a way to bulk using a Keto Diet. How? I don't really know since I use Keto for cutting. But from what I've read, some forumers that used Keto Diet managed to break PRs, have more energy compared to using glycogen.
Sadly, I don't have any whey. But I do enjoy my scrambled peanut butter egg. It is more tasty and more creamy than usual scramble egg

try to get in more fats and for 1st 2 weeks sure you feel legarthic and tired,but once you get through you will feel more energetic
dont give up at half because when you'trying to get in keto state,it like your boiling water,in the middle you put off the fire,it will never boil,don't ruin it,people fail because of that

as what i said
dont do keto anymore you're nto ready for it

Why?

in case
for another 5 days you're going to say
oh i need the damn carbs as fuel again
right now you have to do another 2 weeks to make your body get into keto state
why must keto ?
healthy diet works pretty good what
summore you're not cut for a competition

Did i said keto is not help for losing weight?  I just mind you beware body adapt to keto diet. Your body adapt fat metabolism quickly and losing function of carb metabolism. When you retake carbs your body will no idea what to do carbs, and it will direct convert to fat for your body metabolise.So you get fatter when you get back normal diet.

Haha. I hope that I won't say it again on next saturday. But you know that in CKD, you carb loading on the 7th day?
And why do you said that I need another 2 weeks to enter Keto state?

Yeah, I'm not cutting for competition but I do have a deadline for my cutting phase so if I'm using the normal low-carb diet, it will take more time.

http://thinkmuscle.com/nutrition/cyclical-...se-performance/

heres an article info on ketosis

i remember last time i tried ckd.

monday- easily hungury, keep go toilet because no carbs and diuretic.
tuesday- feel ok
wednesday- feel dizzy
thursday-out of energy, sleepy
friday- body temperature feel freeze, no sweat
saturday- feel happy for evening carbs load
sunday- eat like pig
monday- mind feel upset again due to carbs load yesterday and make you heavier and need prohibit delicious food again. 

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Added on May 19, 2012, 11:34 pm
i think 8 weeks, finally surrender....