Hye guys. Anyone here have any experience about Keto Diet? Care to share here?

I'll start with mine. Today is my 5th day on Keto Diet. Felt very lethargic making me unable to complete my workout routine today.
So, when you guys adjusted with the energy transistion?

This post has been edited by alien9: May 18 2012, 06:20 PM

This is my yesterday food intake. First of all, my daily calorie intake is 2007 kcal.

Lunch:
170 g of Blue Bay Shredded Tuna
25 g of CED Peanut Butter
3 First Choice Egg
40 g of Planta Marjerin

Dinner:
200g Ramly Minced Meat
30 g Planta Marjerin
3 First Choice Egg
25 g CED Peanut Butter

Calorie Consume: 1955 kcal
Protein: 146 gram
Fat: 146 gram
Carb: 12 gram

Breakfast? I eat none because I am in Intermittent Fasting. I always train fasted and usualy done my training in the late morning.

Yes, it is called Carb Cycling. I will do it on Saturday night until SUnday evening. High Carb and Protein, low in Fat.

Eat it raw. But I always it them with my scramble eggs. Either scramble it together with the eggs or just put the peanut butter on the scramble eggs and let it melt

Finally I broke my Keto Diet on the 5 1/2 day. I need the energy for my workout late this evening and since I'll be paying the gym entrance fees instead of going to my usual free gym, I want to get the most out of it.

There is a thread in bodybuilding.com about weightlifting and Keto. Actually, there is a way to bulk using a Keto Diet. How? I don't really know since I use Keto for cutting. But from what I've read, some forumers that used Keto Diet managed to break PRs, have more energy compared to using glycogen.

Sadly, I don't have any whey. But I do enjoy my scrambled peanut butter egg. It is more tasty and more creamy than usual scramble egg

even if I am in calorie deficit, I will still get fat?

this will apply to all cutting phase where users will be in a calorie deficit state. Mind you that BMR and Calorie Maintenance is different. I have a 1619 kcal for BMR and 2509kcal for maintenance. My daily calorie intake is 80% from my maintenance which is 2000kcal; which is far higher than my BMR. So, why people can successfully decrease the fat and will not get fat if they consume carb but still under calorie deficit?

Because the simple science behind it is calorie in vs calorie out

This post has been edited by alien9: May 19 2012, 03:17 PM

would you mind clarify how long is long term? And would you give me a link about this?

Our body have two sources of energy, from carb (glycgen) and fat (ketones). Human usually uses carb as their energy sources. But once you are on Keto, our body will try to use fat as energy since there is very low carb is being consume (less than 30g). In other word, our body still have energy but from another source which is fat. After the adjustment period (body adjusting from using carb as energy to fat as energy), our body will feel better and not tired/lethargic as per during the adjustment period.

So, by saying that it is hard to lift heavy because of low-carb is not true as fat is the primary energy source, not carb.

That is true. You can increase your atp by using creatine. But then, there is a different between aerobic exercises and Keto diet. Aerobic exercises uses fat as energy. During your body in Ketosis state where your body is out of glycogen, the liver will start to product ketones; a byproduct of fatty acids. Instead of relying to atp for energy, the body uses ketones as source of energy.

Why? For me, a five days intensive workout while trying to adjust to the Keto sure does have its toll. But it doesn't mean that I'm not ready for it right? Lets see how next week goes.

This post has been edited by alien9: May 19 2012, 06:02 PM

Haha. I hope that I won't say it again on next saturday. But you know that in CKD, you carb loading on the 7th day?
And why do you said that I need another 2 weeks to enter Keto state?

Yeah, I'm not cutting for competition but I do have a deadline for my cutting phase so if I'm using the normal low-carb diet, it will take more time.

Nice read man. Quite a long article but very informative. The best part is that this article show how to enter ketosis state as fast as we can, and optimize for carb loading day. A good read.

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Added on May 19, 2012, 11:34 pmHow many weeks you are in CKD?

This post has been edited by alien9: May 19 2012, 11:34 PM

Result from it? Starting weight, end weight, body fat percentage, muscle mass if you do have. Care to share?

nice man. care to share the results? btw, how will you know when you are in ketosis state?

This is my result for 1st week of Keto Diet (1st cycle).

Previous Stat was on 9/5/2012 (should have taken on 14th since I start Keto on that day).
Weight: 92.3 kg
Muscle Mass: 31.1 kg
Body Fat Mass: 37kg
Total Body Water: 40.5kg
Fat Free Mass: 55.3kg
PBF: 40.1%

Current Stat taken on 21/5/2012 (after 5 1/2 day on Keto, 1 1/2 day on carb cycle).
Weight: 93.2 kg (+0.9kg)
Muscle Mass: 33kg (+1.9kg)
Body Fat Mass: 34.7kg (2.3kg)
Total Body Water: 42.9kg (+2.4kg)
Fat Free Mass: 58.5 (3.2kg)
PBF: 37.3% (-2.8%)

This post has been edited by alien9: May 21 2012, 01:44 PM

Yes, I do discharge all my urine and feces before taking my measurement, and I always wear the same 'outfit' while taking my measurement. About the water regimen, cal you clarify on this? I do consume at least 1.5 liter of plain water a day.

All right man. I'll see what I can do. But, I never drink any fluid from waking up until I measure my weight.

How about this? http://bodytransformationinsider.com/access/body-fat-scales/

"Body water is at it’s most stable point every day first thing in the morning before eating and drinking anything. This is when you should be taking your body fat readings."

I've been in low carb - low calorie diet while I'm using OxyElite Pro. Well, since I pay RM 165.00 for it, might as well I cut down the carb intake to fully utilize the product. What I've done is that I took no rice, no mi hun, no mee as far as I remember. But the energy being substitute by the fat burner so I don't notice any reduce in energy.

Now is my 2nd day on 2nd Keto Cycle and I can feel that I am in better state in term of energy and routine successfully (managed to hit a squat PR) compared to last week.