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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V23 - Dead or Alive!

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GP mad man
post Jun 12 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 12 2012, 02:01 PM)
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The mechanical sound is the car transforming into decepticon robot ph34r.gif
Wahaha sometimes I konfius ABS as airbag light  cry.gif
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Emirates
post Jun 12 2012, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 12 2012, 01:56 PM)
Repost... tongue.gif That mark is too common and see everyday, make me doubt is really handbrake or not...i even go google it...hahahaha

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Not this indicator, it is a "complete" circle but with jagged ridges on the circle itself - like nothing i've ever seen before rclxub.gif

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post Jun 12 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Emirates @ Jun 12 2012, 02:05 PM)
Not this indicator, it is a "complete" circle but with jagged ridges on the circle itself - like nothing i've ever seen before rclxub.gif
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Em ok that is the CVT indicator.

If just flash for a moment, no big deal, but send it to SC as soon as possible to read the fault code.

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Emirates
post Jun 12 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 12 2012, 02:08 PM)
Em ok that is the CVT light.

If just flash for a moment, no big deal, but send it to SC as soon as possible to read the fault code.
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Shites ! i was afraid it might me something like that. Will send to SC asap. Thanks very much dares smile.gif
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post Jun 12 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Emirates @ Jun 12 2012, 02:05 PM)
Not this indicator, it is a "complete" circle but with jagged ridges on the circle itself - like nothing i've ever seen before rclxub.gif
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i know what you mean, this one huh :

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it's CVT system warning light
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post Jun 12 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 12 2012, 02:20 PM)
i know what you mean, this one huh :

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it's CVT system warning light
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Yes that's the one. Thanks.
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post Jun 12 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Emirates @ Jun 12 2012, 02:15 PM)
Shites ! i was afraid it might me something like that. Will send to SC asap. Thanks very much daresĀ  smile.gif
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Don't panic.

It can mean alot of things, such as belt slip due to sudden acceleration by the driver among other reasons. It is to indicate abnormal conditions and the ECU/TCU will attempt to invoke safe mode to protect the transmission.

In fact the error code will be erased if the error does not recur over a period of time or a number of engine starts, as it assumes that it is a one time error, so there is no reason to be overly concerned as long as it doesn't happen again soon.

But again, to be safe, send it to the SC to have the error code read at your soonest possible.

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post Jun 12 2012, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Emirates @ Jun 12 2012, 02:21 PM)
Yes that's the one. Thanks.
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i can make it light up as many time i want brows.gif
actually i know the trick of this light, did you play around with SAT button lately?
try push the button to S mode, then again push back to D mode... the light should have gone icon_idea.gif
the idea is, the light blink because the SAT switch problem, when it got stuck from S mode to D mode (the button you push didn't punch out fully) then the light will blink..

to all FLX user, try to push that button to S mode, then again push back to D mode but holding it half way, (don't let the button completely punch out, then the light will blink) doh.gif

conclusion : SAT button FAILED sweat.gif

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post Jun 12 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 12 2012, 10:55 AM)
yeah, superb white hamster...  sweat.gif  proton should find out the solution faster and make re-call to us, not keep pushing their new model, let go those after sales customer 
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apa solution? hmm.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 12 2012, 11:01 AM)
He likes to be on top ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 12 2012, 11:06 AM)
ya, when the gear at P or N, the rev cut at 2.5k RPM, but it really happen, rev super high to 4k RPM 
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ecu only cut the throttle input to 2,500 rpm but the ecu has the ability to bypass the 2,500rpm limit and rev to a safe level to warm up/make whatever engine adjustments it needs.

QUOTE(mieza @ Jun 12 2012, 12:47 PM)
I was wondering did Saga is a Hot item among thief?
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very hot.

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My noise got muffled cry.gif cry.gif
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post Jun 12 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 12 2012, 02:25 PM)
i can make it light up as many time i want  brows.gif
actually i know the trick of this light, did you play around with SAT button lately?
try push the button to S mode, then again push back to D mode... the light should have gone  icon_idea.gif
the idea is, the light blink because the SAT switch problem, when it got stuck from S mode to D mode (the button you push didn't punch out fully) then the light will blink..

to all FLX user, try to push that button to S mode, then again push back to D mode but holding it half way, (don't let the button completely punch out, then the light will blink)  doh.gif

conclusion : SAT button FAILED  sweat.gif

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According to my daughter, she hasn't touched the SAT button since she got the car around 2-3 weeks ago. She's going to send to SC to check soon & will update you guys.
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post Jun 12 2012, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 12 2012, 02:37 PM)
apa solution? hmm.gif
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solution for :

1) engine jerk during idle
2) taktak noise during braking
3) jerk during slow cruising
4) gear stiffness from L to D
5) rattling noise came from dashboard

so far that's the problem from me vmad.gif


Added on June 12, 2012, 2:44 pm
QUOTE(Emirates @ Jun 12 2012, 02:40 PM)
According to my daughter, she hasn't touched the SAT button since she got the car around 2-3 weeks ago. She's going to send to SC to check soon & will update you guys.
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it happen to me, CVT warning light up during cruise, and I also didn't touch that SAT button too, sometime is 1st warning given by CVT (everyone facing that too) but then after that, the light never light up anymore nod.gif

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post Jun 12 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 12 2012, 02:42 PM)
solution for :

1) engine jerk during idle
2) taktak noise during braking
re-adjust drum shoe if stuck or replace whole drum brake
3) jerk during slow cruising
increase right foot control (key word: smoothness)  tongue.gif and less braking
4) gear stiffness from L to D
5) rattling noise came from dashboard
6) rattling from all doors (power window bracket?)

so far that's the problem from me  vmad.gif
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post Jun 12 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 12 2012, 01:57 PM)
i know is a real story but tis guy kinda (duno how to describe) hmm.gif
sumore 25 bucks cruise control  notworthy.gif

so mean kenji car is blacklisted if dunwan kena buttsecking  ph34r.gif
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Not trying to imply anything lar, just that Kenji is wellknown for buttseck people, so I conveniently used his car as example lar. I did drove/ride his car few time & I'm still safe lar laugh.gif now taking a BLM 1.6 taxi laugh.gif very comfortable brows.gif
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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ Jun 12 2012, 02:48 PM)
solution for :

1) engine jerk during idle
2) taktak noise during braking
re-adjust drum shoe if stuck or replace whole drum brake
3) jerk during slow cruising
increase right foot control (key word: smoothness) and less braking
4) gear stiffness from L to D
5) rattling noise came from dashboard
6) rattling from all doors (power window bracket?)

so far that's the problem from me
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i know it can be fix, but not permanently, proton haven't come out with best solution yet

meanwhile increase right foot control? no way bro shakehead.gif
normally during traffic jam, i need to control the accelerate pedal well, if slight accelerate doesn't move the car, what i did is push the gear to N and immediately back to D, then only it give respond to that pedal, otherwise if i push further down, it will cause more jerk (people from outside thought i'm dancing in car doh.gif )
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post Jun 12 2012, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 12 2012, 02:53 PM)
i know it can be fix, but not permanently, proton haven't come out with best solution yet

meanwhile increase right foot control? no way bro  shakehead.gif
normally during traffic jam, i need to control the accelerate pedal well, if slight accelerate doesn't move the car, what i did is push the gear to N and immediately back to D, then only it give respond to that pedal, otherwise if i push further down, it will cause more jerk (people from outside thought i'm dancing in car  doh.gif )
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The jerking at low speed is due to our CVT being clutch-base than torque converter. Torque converters are smoother because they can absorb shock or sudden engine input, which is also why they are less efficient.

Just have to train your right foot and learn to use the handbrake.
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 12 2012, 02:42 PM)
solution for :

1) engine jerk during idle
2) taktak noise during braking
3) jerk during slow cruising
4) gear stiffness from L to D
5) rattling noise came from dashboard

so far that's the problem from me  vmad.gif


Added on June 12, 2012, 2:44 pm
it happen to me, CVT warning light up during cruise, and I also didn't touch that SAT button too, sometime is 1st warning given by CVT (everyone facing that too) but then after that, the light never light up anymore  nod.gif
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1. I rarely encounter this, and usually it only happens after a short spirited drive.
2. Mine is gone hmm.gif
3. the last time my car jerks during slow cruising, is more than 4 months ago... Normally what i do is let the car roll a bit first then gently tap the throttle to 1400~1600 rpm... hmm.gif
4. I think its the design is memang like that one
5. Yeah. vmad.gif vmad.gif

but then those are just minor problem (except for the tak tak tak brake). No need for a mass recall kua... tongue.gif
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post Jun 12 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 12 2012, 02:53 PM)
i know it can be fix, but not permanently, proton haven't come out with best solution yet

meanwhile increase right foot control? no way bro  shakehead.gif
normally during traffic jam, i need to control the accelerate pedal well, if slight accelerate doesn't move the car, what i did is push the gear to N and immediately back to D, then only it give respond to that pedal, otherwise if i push further down, it will cause more jerk (people from outside thought i'm dancing in car  doh.gif )
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 12 2012, 03:05 PM)
The jerking at low speed is due to our CVT being clutch-base than torque converter. Torque converters are smoother because they can absorb shock or sudden engine input, which is also why they are less efficient.

Just have to train your right foot and learn to use the handbrake.
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last time i also use N and D but that will not results in smoothness.. cause of the sudden release of the clutch.. more like manual cars.. even if u suddenly release the accelerator while cruising below 2k rpm also will results in 'jerk'. so currently i choose to hv a good pedal control/gradually press pedal and release. it helps but yes, there's no way it can be eliminated. less braking also helps cause it helps to keep the inertia/momentum
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post Jun 12 2012, 03:24 PM

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today special, out of topic tongue.gif

zero fuel consumption,
jerkless drive,
less maintenance,
free fresh air cruising...


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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 12 2012, 03:24 PM)
today special, out of topic  tongue.gif

zero fuel consumption,
jerkless drive,
less maintenance,
free fresh air cruising...


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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 12 2012, 03:05 PM)
The jerking at low speed is due to our CVT being clutch-base than torque converter. Torque converters are smoother because they can absorb shock or sudden engine input, which is also why they are less efficient.

Just have to train your right foot and learn to use the handbrake.
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Seems like the computer controlled clutch still can't beat a foot clutch operated by an experienced driver for smoothness. But I don't remember such jerking when I was driving my friend's FLX hmm.gif

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