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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V23 - Dead or Alive!

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dares
post Jun 14 2012, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 14 2012, 10:11 PM)
hu said kenot pasang?

can pasang. But when boost kick in, hear belt snap and CVT indicator light turn on only. laugh.gif
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Considering our CVT tend to rev up before the car starts to move, and considering boosting starts the minute the engine starts revving, that means that car havent move the belt ady snap doh.gif doh.gif

Or worse, the car will lurch forward, masuk longkang, THEN only snap.


QUOTE(zukjka @ Jun 14 2012, 10:23 PM)
Jgn kasi poison wa lagi if not this month makan maggi.
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 14 2012, 10:23 PM)
I've been reading quite a bit about strut bars before and after ordering. It seems that you can only feel the difference with a rear one when you're racing hardcore on the track.
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care to share your findings?

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 14 2012, 10:43 PM)
Bring your car and come, I show you brows.gif I went Plotong dealert test drove FLX SE before brows.gif
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What does rear strut bar gotta do with test driving FLX SE blink.gif blink.gif tak paham rclxub.gif

BTW, time for new tered...

This post has been edited by dares: Jun 14 2012, 10:54 PM
lhwj
post Jun 14 2012, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 14 2012, 10:54 PM)
Or worse, the car will lurch forward, masuk longkang, THEN only snap.
care to share your findings?
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Well, I found this and this, but I've just noticed the guy's words in the latter were copied from the first link...

In any case, I'll try the front one first and see how it goes. Wanna know how the rear one feels like, just test Unker David's kar biggrin.gif
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post Jun 14 2012, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 14 2012, 11:17 PM)
Well, I found this and this, but I've just noticed the guy's words in the latter were copied from the first link...

In any case, I'll try the front one first and see how it goes. Wanna know how the rear one feels like, just test Unker David's kar biggrin.gif
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I agree, try the front bar first.. nod.gif
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post Jun 14 2012, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 14 2012, 10:51 PM)
But the FLX SE doesn't have a stock rear strut bar hmm.gif
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Thats why wanna test out how it works with the rear strut bar flex.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 14 2012, 10:54 PM)
Considering our CVT tend to rev up before the car starts to move, and considering boosting starts the minute the engine starts revving, that means that car havent move the belt ady snap   doh.gif  doh.gif

Or worse, the car will lurch forward, masuk longkang, THEN only snap.
care to share your findings?
For supercharger/compressor type of force induction, the output is more lenient as you describe, it will start boosting when the engine starts. CVT belt is specifically designed to hold certain force, and are well calculated, in supercharged FLX, most probably you're going to get some belt slippage after full boost at higher horse power. Assuming FLX1.3 and SE1.6 uses the same CVT, supposedly 1.6 facing more slippage than the 1.3, but it isn't. Think the manufacturer designed the CVT to uphold certain amount of power deviation/tolerance to ensure reliability and or may be future upgrades on the same platform different power output vehicle. I would rather say, if you only use a small charger to boost 0.6bar on a standard engine, don't think the power can snap the belt in an instant. However, prolong stressed the belt may shorten its life, more belt slip and become loosen is more likely.

Snap belt more likely happened when you have a WRECK brake disc rotor when you're having hai speed braking, or you rebore your engine to 2.0litre hook it up with a TD08 + 10000rpm balanced crank, when your RPM hits 7000 and start to charge your TD08, in a split second your horse power output jumped from 94bhp to 500bhp, then you not only snap your belt, in fact the whole CVT dismantle laugh.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 14 2012, 10:54 PM)
What does rear strut bar gotta do with test driving FLX SE  blink.gif  blink.gif tak paham  rclxub.gif

BTW, time for new tered...
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I know it doesn't have. Seriously, I don't know the difference, just wanted to test it out. May be r3apers can share some idea here since he already braced his butt.

Who is the new TS unsure.gif

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jun 14 2012, 11:17 PM)
Well, I found this and this, but I've just noticed the guy's words in the latter were copied from the first link...

In any case, I'll try the front one first and see how it goes. Wanna know how the rear one feels like, just test Unker David's kar biggrin.gif
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1 passenger at a time. Take it slow and let the good time role.

This post has been edited by davidke20: Jun 14 2012, 11:46 PM
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post Jun 15 2012, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 14 2012, 11:46 PM)

For supercharger/compressor type of force induction, the output is more lenient as you describe, it will start boosting when the engine starts. CVT belt is specifically designed to hold certain force, and are well calculated, in supercharged FLX, most probably you're going to get some belt slippage after full boost at higher horse power. Assuming FLX1.3 and SE1.6 uses the same CVT, supposedly 1.6 facing more slippage than the 1.3, but it isn't. Think the manufacturer designed the CVT to uphold certain amount of power deviation/tolerance to ensure reliability and or may be future upgrades on the same platform different power output vehicle. I would rather say, if you only use a small charger to boost 0.6bar on a standard engine, don't think the power can snap the belt in an instant. However, prolong stressed the belt may shorten its life, more belt slip and become loosen is more likely.

Snap belt more likely happened when you have a WRECK brake disc rotor when you're having hai speed braking, or you rebore your engine to 2.0litre hook it up with a TD08 + 10000rpm balanced crank, when your RPM hits 7000 and start to charge your TD08, in a split second your horse power output jumped from 94bhp to 500bhp, then you not only snap your belt, in fact the whole CVT dismantle laugh.gif
I know it doesn't have. Seriously, I don't know the difference, just wanted to test it out. May be r3apers can share some idea here since he already braced his butt.

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The VT2 CVT in FLX has a torque tolerance up to 186Nm. For the turbocharged 1.6 Campro in exora and preve, they have to upgrade the CVT to VT3, which has higher torque tolerance with bigger and stronger parts, but otherwise similar to the VT2.

The Campro CFE boosts at 0.75 bars only, max torque at 205Nm.

You are right it probably wont snap so easily, but its lifespan will be drastically reduced.
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post Jun 15 2012, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 15 2012, 12:04 AM)
The  VT2 CVT in FLX has a torque tolerance up to 186Nm. For the turbocharged 1.6  Campro in exora and preve, they have to upgrade the CVT to VT3, which has higher torque tolerance with bigger and stronger parts, but otherwise similar to the VT2.

The Campro CFE boosts at 0.75 bars only, max torque at 205Nm.

You are right it probably wont snap so easily, but its lifespan will be drastically reduced.
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Choose 1 of these to snap your belt laugh.gif Btw, where is new TS?!
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:35 AM

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Pls proceed to V24

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2387977

r3apers kindly close this thread if you'd please smile.gif

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