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post May 15 2012, 07:21 AM, updated 14y ago

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The Witch Doctor, abbreviated WD, is a pure spellcaster, dealing with elemental magic, nature magic, necromancy and alchemy. The class has taken some inspiration from the Necromancer of Diablo II, in its ability to summon pets of various types, as well as cast some mind control spells.

The Witch Doctor is a much more active, spell-attacking class than the Necromancer was, though. A Witch Doctor can not succeed just summoning pets and sitting back; he must venture in much closer to the fray, constantly using attack spells to supplement the damage dealt by various short-lived pets.

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^ahahaha, saw that one


Added on May 15, 2012, 12:47 pmmaybe can use as WD theme song laugh.gif

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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 15 2012, 12:47 PM)
^ahahaha, saw that one


Added on May 15, 2012, 12:47 pmmaybe can use as WD theme song laugh.gif
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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 15 2012, 12:36 PM)
welcome all doktors laugh.gif...we gonna spam TOADS!!!!
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DOCTORS ! y so quiet

every1 fighting the terror 37 boss ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 15 2012, 04:40 PM)
DOCTORS ! y so quiet

every1 fighting the terror 37 boss ? tongue.gif
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all playing edi..reason y quiet...i beat SK edi laugh.gif
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Templar 1st skill Heal and intervene, which better? icon_idea.gif
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^heal better
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just finished Act1... going to try other characters, but it seems that WD is quite easy to play..
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just finish WD starter edition.. trying to max lvl 13 for him now. So much enjoy corpse spider!

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 16 2012, 02:45 AM)
just finish WD starter edition.. trying to max lvl 13 for him now. So much enjoy corpse spider!
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Meh, i think im done for today :S no mo friends to follow tongue.gif Atm im in act 3.... lvl 25.... so far so good biggrin.gif now Lookin for Group tongue.gif
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post May 16 2012, 09:33 AM

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WD is rather fun. Corpse Spider seems very useful.

Only lvl 6 at the moment.
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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ May 16 2012, 09:33 AM)
WD is rather fun. Corpse Spider seems very useful.

Only lvl 6 at the moment.
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Hi hi! Will still play ME3 MP once in a while.
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Player List :

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I basically use the poison darts still and Firebats with the rune. I am only level 11. Basically pretty awesome. Waiting for the next level to improve my hounds as they are rather squishy now
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Plague of toads, Runed Grasp
Horrify, Soul Harvest, Zombie Charger.

Grasp -> run in horrify -> soul harvest, walk out toads + charger

For some reasons zombie dogs die too fast even with rune up on it.
Passive with circle of life.
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I don't know how some people play till Hell one day one.
And most streams I watch has DH, Barb, Wiz & Monk.

No WD.. I bet a WD will help a lot tongue.gif
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that because people love those build...but currently all looking a WD in their team..those toads will help a lot..ahahaha


Added on May 16, 2012, 12:12 pmand guys, u know about Elective Mode? where u can slot any skills u want in those skills/attacks slot? icon_idea.gif

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LV23.
Locus Swarm > run in > Soul Harvest > Horrify > Firebomb
for some reason the zombie dogs dont last long as i would expect =(
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QUOTE(Killerjeff88 @ May 16 2012, 12:20 PM)
LV23.
Locus Swarm > run in > Soul Harvest > Horrify > Firebomb
for some reason the zombie dogs dont last long as i would expect =(
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dogs and garg die dam fast in normal sad.gif

like that nightmare no need to say liao
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add me also biggrin.gif subimpact#6840

normally rush into mobs then use soul harvest with 3rd rune , then cast the Runed Grasp and firebomb mobs add a little zombie burst biggrin.gif

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yup, actually pretty disappointed with dogs/gargan which die so fast sad.gif but currently spamming firebats + darts + spiders laugh.gif
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Anyone experiencing close deaths in normal mode? >_>
Or am I just too careless trololol
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I done one death. Poisoned to death by the first 2 trees I encountered.
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QUOTE(Killerjeff88 @ May 16 2012, 12:20 PM)
LV23.
Locus Swarm > run in > Soul Harvest > Horrify > Firebomb
for some reason the zombie dogs dont last long as i would expect =(
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dogs and garg die dam fast in normal sad.gif

like that nightmare no need to say liao
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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 16 2012, 12:58 PM)
yup, actually pretty disappointed with dogs/gargan which die so fast sad.gif but currently spamming firebats + darts + spiders laugh.gif
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If add passive skill - jungle fortitude +zombie handle + fierce loyalty,

will dog/garg last longer?

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QUOTE(Kissan @ May 16 2012, 01:35 PM)
If add passive skill - jungle fortitude +zombie handle + fierce loyalty,

will dog/garg last longer?
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i only have jungle fortitude for lv23. so its kinda not effective. maybe it'll be better once i have Zombie Handler LV24 and Fierce Loyalty LV45. =/
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i know my dog hardly last a map, garg on the other hand is like a tank brute biggrin.gif
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since zombie dogs so weak, need choose hex instead of zombie dogs? those fetish shaman can heal with rune 1. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Killerjeff88 @ May 16 2012, 01:40 PM)
i only have jungle fortitude for lv23. so its kinda not effective. maybe it'll be better once i have Zombie Handler LV24 and Fierce Loyalty LV45. =/
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Seems like this is working well smile.gif
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do u think in inferno our dogs and gargan can last long ? sad.gif hope there is a way to top up their HP
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gargan has super amount of HP, but in attack/defense term this guy can't do better than my WD

dart+ bats eventhough i am lvl 25 already with runes of course

the dogs pretty damn useless already halfway through act 1

sigh so far i am just recycling the same skills/not using other skills at all

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Using dogs, dart and the area effect to slow enemies down

So far so good level for level 18

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Mine now currently using :

Plague Of Toads (Explosive)
FireBats (Dire)
soul Harvest (Swallow Soul)
Haunts
Zombie Charger
Spiritual Attunement

**working quite well now pair up with Templar biggrin.gif


Added on May 16, 2012, 9:43 pmsam sam, what is ur battletag, wanna add u in the list

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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 16 2012, 09:43 PM)
Mine now currently using :

Plague Of Toads (Explosive)
FireBats (Dire)
soul Harvest (Swallow Soul)
Haunts
Zombie Charger
Spiritual Attunement

**working quite well now pair up with Templar biggrin.gif


Added on May 16, 2012, 9:43 pmsam sam, what is ur battletag, wanna add u in the list
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Aren't you scared of dying? Your items are +vitality is it?
I tried something similar to that build.. very risky..

Which act are you in?
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^almost end of Act I...and i only use my potion twice (lawan Butcher)


Added on May 16, 2012, 9:53 pmMy style :

Run to mobs cast Soul Harvest, then run back a bit cast Haunts + Firebats, finish up with Toads & Charger

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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 16 2012, 09:43 PM)
Mine now currently using :

Plague Of Toads (Explosive)
FireBats (Dire)
soul Harvest (Swallow Soul)
Haunts
Zombie Charger
Spiritual Attunement

**working quite well now pair up with Templar biggrin.gif


Added on May 16, 2012, 9:43 pmsam sam, what is ur battletag, wanna add u in the list
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whats a good skill setup for a lv 10 onwards WD



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Hm, I forgot what was available at level 10..
But Poison Darts (Splinter), dogs, soul harvest and dire bats should do the trick.
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QUOTE(markypcs @ May 16 2012, 11:56 PM)
Hm, I forgot what was available at level 10..
But Poison Darts (Splinter), dogs, soul harvest and dire bats should do the trick.
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Poison dart, doggy, soul harvest, and entangled. Hahaha
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stopped at lv 15 today. any comments on skill ?

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finished act2 now act3... already lvl 26/27, maybe im over levelled...


Added on May 17, 2012, 4:28 amdarts, dog, sacrifice, entangle, acid, gargantuan. best AOE and control for me atm.. stand all the way to the back and watch your pets work while you pick up the pieces..

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Level 10 now. I thought that Leaping spiders, Dogs, Entangle and bats have nice synergy. I treat the spiders as AoE. Dogs and Engtangle to tie down the mobs while I toast them with bats.

One thing though, how does Soul Harvest work eh?
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any1 can do the Hotdogging achievement?
Summon 3 Zombie Dogs at the same time without using the skill Summon Zombie Dog.
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I am a level 41 wd!

TT So hard to solo nightmare now.. AOE is imba for wd!
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This character sucks. Been using it since the launch of the game and I've died more than 10 times. I'm on level 14 now.

Both the hero and its pets are too vulnerable. Most of the skills are short ranged (meaning you have to stand very close to the enemies). Mana simply not enough (Although the regenerationt rate is fast, but it's not fast enough to cast spells to beat enemies). CD for certain spells are too long.

Hope it gets better at late game.
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^aiyo bro, how u position urself is important and select skills/runes that suit ur playstyle...truth be told, i play WD Act I till end Act II, not even die once
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^aiyo bro, how u position urself is important and select skills/runes that suit ur playstyle...truth be told, i play WD Act I till end Act II, not even die once
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Maybe I'm too noob for this. What is a rune? I haven't played WoW before lol. Looks like I need to read more.
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QUOTE(icycokes @ May 17 2012, 08:22 PM)
Maybe I'm too noob for this. What is a rune? I haven't played WoW before lol. Looks like I need to read more.
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QUOTE(icycokes @ May 17 2012, 08:17 PM)
This character sucks. Been using it since the launch of the game and I've died more than 10 times. I'm on level 14 now.

Both the hero and its pets are too vulnerable. Most of the skills are short ranged (meaning you have to stand very close to the enemies). Mana simply not enough (Although the regenerationt rate is fast, but it's not fast enough to cast spells to beat enemies). CD for certain spells are too long.

Hope it gets better at late game.
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Grasp them first (slow em down)...blow some darts and let ur dogs do their thing, and then end it with charger rclxms.gif

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I haven't learned alot of skills. I think I've only learned 5? But at least 3 of them you need to stand real close.

1 of them is the summon a green decomposing corpse thing. It's powerful but can you imagine the range? You basically need to stand just right in front of the monster to get it working.

Another 1 is fear. Range is a little farther than the green corpse skill. But still need to be very close to the enemies. Short effect, LONG CD.
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^Zombie Charger sweat.gif..that one is long range one bro sweat.gif
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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 17 2012, 08:27 PM)
Grasp them first (slow em down)...blow some darts and let ur dogs do their thing, and then end it with charger rclxms.gif
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Now I'm using the summon poison frogs skill but it sucks, the frogs decomposed themselves before jumping to enemies, and most of the time they jump wildly not aiming at enemies. I thought these skills are definitely better the darts since they are acquired later. Honestly I've never used darts after I've gotten the skill of throwing jars of spiders.

Lol, I'll try the darts again.


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^Zombie Charger sweat.gif..that one is long range one bro sweat.gif
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No! Are we playing the same game? Or I remembered wrongly? The zombie just decomposed themselves (and disappear) after walking for a few steps.

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^Plague of toads, that one u just spam it...click to any target and spam it, its random but it will get the target
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this is my Witch Doctor skill settings for mobbing biggrin.gif

normally i will use Spirit walk rush in then pop soul harvest, run out. nex i will use grasp with acid rain follow up before i finish them off with my frogs. if there is a range mob that is not in group i will use acid rain to flush them down. if i get hell a lot of damage and my hp pot cd is down, i will use spirit walk then pop soul harvest to gain back some hp. Gargantuan will do its own thing that is bashing.

as for boss i will use this instead

firstly i will keep Haunt up at all times, then i will spam Explosive toads(sometimes with spirit walk during movement phase of the fights). acid rain will be used on mobbing during adds if got any otherwise on boss. as usual gargantuan will shuffle on boss.

i love this play style n i am level 26 atm smile.gif any comments?
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for the first few levels. i used poison dart with splinters rune.
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QUOTE(icycokes @ May 17 2012, 08:32 PM)
No! Are we playing the same game? Or I remembered wrongly? The zombie just decomposed themselves (and disappear) after walking for a few steps.
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ahaha, if you want to compare it with wizard & demon hunter ranged attack then sure consider short but again for me its quite distant from the target before i cast it smile.gif


Added on May 17, 2012, 8:37 pm@lord
Yup, i prefer explosive compared to huge toad rclxms.gif


Added on May 17, 2012, 8:38 pmHow about mama spider laugh.gif

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Initiate by running into a group of more than 4, Soul Harvest.
Run out of group a bit, spam 3/4 Dire Bats. Spirit walk if damage too high.
Spam 2 Acid Rain, finish with Firebomb.

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^walao, so fast one edi catch up with me rclxms.gif..eh, red want to play together act 3 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 17 2012, 08:27 PM)
Grasp them first (slow em down)...blow some darts and let ur dogs do their thing, and then end it with charger rclxms.gif
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i replace this with fire bats (dire bats rune). longer range, higher dmg, and less mana cost

QUOTE(icycokes @ May 17 2012, 08:28 PM)
I haven't learned alot of skills. I think I've only learned 5? But at least 3 of them you need to stand real close.

1 of them is the summon a green decomposing corpse thing. It's powerful but can you imagine the range? You basically need to stand just right in front of the monster to get it working.

Another 1 is fear. Range is a little farther than the green corpse skill. But still need to be very close to the enemies. Short effect, LONG CD.
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i dun use fear personally because i see it have less use now early game, without the runes

my main skills - dogs (rabib dogs rune), soul harvest (swallow your soul rune), grasp ( eel rune), darts (splinters rune), and fire bats (dire bat rune)



all above mentioned is on lv 15 onwards. might change a bit when more runes become available

can refer here http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...#33;Y!aaaaZ

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^walao, so fast one edi catch up with me rclxms.gif..eh, red want to play together act 3 tongue.gif
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the big toad is another dissapointment for WD

it swallow the monster, but after that haven't die the monster when it timeouts doh.gif
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the big toad is another dissapointment for WD

it swallow the monster, but after that haven't die the monster when it timeouts doh.gif
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Yup, and cannot spam cast it like explosive one sad.gif

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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 17 2012, 08:44 PM)
the big toad is another dissapointment for WD

it swallow the monster, but after that haven't die the monster when it timeouts doh.gif
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can swallow the blue ranking monster, but only for a short period of time then the frog seems to be "overpowered" by the monster and disappear
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Yup, and cannot spam cast it like explosive one sad.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 17 2012, 08:49 PM)
can swallow the blue ranking monster, but only for a short period of time then the frog seems to be "overpowered" by the monster and disappear
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QUOTE(icycokes @ May 17 2012, 08:32 PM)
Now I'm using the summon poison frogs skill but it sucks, the frogs decomposed themselves before jumping to enemies, and most of the time they jump wildly not aiming at enemies. I thought these skills are definitely better the darts since they are acquired later. Honestly I've never used darts after I've gotten the skill of throwing jars of spiders.

Lol, I'll try the darts again.


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No! Are we playing the same game? Or I remembered wrongly? The zombie just decomposed themselves (and disappear) after walking for a few steps.
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yeah, zombies only walk a few steps.
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after sometimes i thing the dart skill is more worth than other skills than in its class. =)
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dogs and gargantuan should always be following you. u may need to resummon dogs once in a while because they die easily, but the gargantuan dude is a total tanker flex.gif . you won't need to resummon him unless its boss fight

as for my skill setup. this is my way of playing

for clearing group of mobs, cast locust swarm 1st, then throw a jar of spider queen (1 is enough, since that's the limit anyway), then proceed to spam your firebombs from afar. your dogs, spider queen and gargantuan will do the job. take note of your spider queen and dogs, resummon if necessary

you can also spam locust swarm, because of its high damage and it jumps to other enemies. but pay attention to your mana sweat.gif


if you ever drop below 50% hp, and if there's still mobs around, walk in and cast soul harvest immediately. with the siphon rune, it heals you instantly to full health rclxms.gif


hopes this help some of you in doubt of skill usage smile.gif

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Rain of frogs is quite a good skill, but the mana cost is a little too much for you to spam compare to poison darts
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I use a lot of explosive frogs. The trick here is that you need to mouse over the direction you want your frogs to spawn. So trick here is grasp, spider queen, frog, frog, frog, frog, darts. While your gargantuan and dogs are tanking.
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Spiders seems like a safer option compared to frogs though. With frogs, you gotta be closer. Got a few times I get trapped by spells, which will probably be death for my WD in higher difficulties.

Still can't figure out Soul Harvest (no runes for it yet tho). Do I need to stand near corpses or something?


Added on May 18, 2012, 9:53 amOne thing that is really nice about leaping spiders. You can cast them around corners. They're like homing missiles. You stay safe from enemy projectiles, your dogs and ghoul hands tie up the mobs so you can continue to spam.

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Well at higher difficulty i wouldnt use frogs anymore. Iwould probably go for firebomb instead
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Well at higher difficulty i wouldnt use frogs anymore. Iwould probably go for firebomb instead
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i need to think of a better combo cos haunt->spirit barrage->firebomb doesn't do enough.
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Firebats' damage is pretty good though. Probably that could be the key component for WD's dps. Just need to ensure mana regen is able to make the skill semi spammable.


Fetish army looks cute though. Can't wait to get that skill.

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ May 18 2012, 10:16 AM)
Firebats' damage is pretty good though. Probably that could be the key component for WD's dps. Just need to ensure mana regen is able to make the skill semi spammable.
Fetish army looks cute though. Can't wait to get that skill.
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wad stats do u guys prioritize? int > vit?
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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ May 18 2012, 09:49 AM)
Spiders seems like a safer option compared to frogs though. With frogs, you gotta be closer. Got a few times I get trapped by spells, which will probably be death for my WD in higher difficulties.

Still can't figure out Soul Harvest (no runes for it yet tho). Do I need to stand near corpses or something?


Added on May 18, 2012, 9:53 amOne thing that is really nice about leaping spiders. You can cast them around corners. They're like homing missiles. You stay safe from enemy projectiles, your dogs and ghoul hands tie up the mobs so you can continue to spam.
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wad stats do u guys prioritize? int > vit?
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i find firebomb to be a pretty useful skill even on the level u got it , without runes

it cost just 5 mana, which means its spammable, have AOE dmg, and u can spam it from afar like darts
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i find firebomb to be a pretty useful skill even on the level u got it , without runes

it cost just 5 mana, which means its spammable, have AOE dmg, and u can spam it from afar like darts
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Does a weapon's elemental damage affect the spiders or darts? ie. +2 holy damage or something.
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I just got the game, how do I make a melee attack using WD? unsure.gif
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I just got the game, how do I make a melee attack using WD?  unsure.gif
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when you have jumpy spider and explosive frog you wouldnt wanna use dart also
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QUOTE(wookp @ May 18 2012, 09:43 AM)
I use a lot of explosive frogs. The trick here is that you need to mouse over the direction you want your frogs to spawn. So trick here is grasp, spider queen, frog, frog, frog, frog, darts. While your gargantuan and dogs are tanking.
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So, d gargantuan & dogs can b summon at d mean/same time?
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QUOTE(takkicom @ May 18 2012, 03:12 PM)
when you have jumpy spider and explosive frog you wouldnt wanna use dart also
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couple with spider queen, which is kind of a good AOE skill
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 18 2012, 10:15 AM)
flash firebomb dps a bit too low in Nightmare hmm.gif

i need to think of a better combo cos haunt->spirit barrage->firebomb doesn't do enough.
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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ May 18 2012, 10:16 AM)
Firebats' damage is pretty good though. Probably that could be the key component for WD's dps. Just need to ensure mana regen is able to make the skill semi spammable.
Fetish army looks cute though. Can't wait to get that skill.
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I love acid rain alot!!

Hmm hell mode a lil tricky for me.. Anyone in hell ATM??
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alas reach lv 30 today

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int is gonna be quite useless later on in nightmare/hell if you can't take hits

the amount of HP/armor you have later on plays important role

even when i have 9k hp at nightmare mode, i still die quite easily/quickly compare to normal mode where the entire act i never even died once hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 19 2012, 02:09 PM)
int is gonna be quite useless later on in nightmare/hell if you can't take hits

the amount of HP/armor you have later on plays important role

even when i have 9k hp at nightmare mode, i still die quite easily/quickly compare to normal mode where the entire act i never even died once hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 19 2012, 02:09 PM)
int is gonna be quite useless later on in nightmare/hell if you can't take hits

the amount of HP/armor you have later on plays important role

even when i have 9k hp at nightmare mode, i still die quite easily/quickly compare to normal mode where the entire act i never even died once hmm.gif
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I love acid rain alot!!

Hmm hell mode a lil tricky for me.. Anyone in hell ATM??
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I heard act 1 hell mode elites has got half a million hp lol
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 19 2012, 02:09 PM)
int is gonna be quite useless later on in nightmare/hell if you can't take hits

the amount of HP/armor you have later on plays important role

even when i have 9k hp at nightmare mode, i still die quite easily/quickly compare to normal mode where the entire act i never even died once hmm.gif
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Just buy stuff from Auction House then

just search for item <5k gold, is good enough for you to finish nightmare mode
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 20 2012, 01:04 AM)
Just buy stuff from Auction House then

just search for item <5k gold, is good enough for you to finish nightmare mode
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 19 2012, 02:09 PM)
int is gonna be quite useless later on in nightmare/hell if you can't take hits

the amount of HP/armor you have later on plays important role

even when i have 9k hp at nightmare mode, i still die quite easily/quickly compare to normal mode where the entire act i never even died once hmm.gif
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Build I'm on right now (Lv. 40)
Vision Quest must be proc'd whenever you fight.

What I do is, summon Gargantuan whenever CD over.
Cast Unbreakable Grasp, then run into the pack of enemies, Soul Harvest.
Then if Fetish Army is available, cast it. Spam Dire Bats all the way and remember to cast UG when CD ends.


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my skills
level 45 now, 15k hp, 1.35k dmg

spam fire bat all the way, if mobs come near u and u get hurt, use soul harvest regen ur life, hex on whenever counter strong mob since it has low cooldown, spirit run with honored guest whenever u need to tank and fight like a boss while u can spam fire bat with 220% dmg and enjoy 15% mana regen per sec, and also a tanker tanking for u
poison dart as main dps vs single mob

solo all the way now in nightmare act 3, pretty easy and hardly die but not sure until hell difficulty, someone point me out biggrin.gif
gargantuan might be useless late game and have to be replaced with another skill later

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 20 2012, 03:35 AM)
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at lvl 52 only though

hell is really fun but really frustrating too

tried killing an elite with another friend and we fail to kill it until it has a debuff where it will deal 10% of your hp per second. Probably a debuff by Blizzard made after 15-20 mins of failing to kill the monster sweat.gif


Added on May 21, 2012, 1:30 amwtf the most imba skill for witch doctor is at lvl 54

clear hell mobs super easy

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Lots of whiny WD players in the official D3 forum. Hope to be able to prove them wrong.
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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ May 21 2012, 09:37 AM)
Lots of whiny WD players in the official D3 forum. Hope to be able to prove them wrong.
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hahaha i'm one of the whiners i guess, because i dont know how to play WD

any tips?

i die at hell act 1, currently farming at nightmare act 4 to gain some money

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QUOTE(bontotalan @ May 21 2012, 10:21 AM)
hahaha i'm one of the whiners i guess, because i dont know how to play WD

any tips?

i die at hell act 1, currently farming at nightmare act 4 to gain some money

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char stat?ur pic no show any stat...

i more worst,just finish normal mode, n go to nightmare keep die n die, if meet yellow mod , sure run whole map sweat.gif ...

start find vit equipment...n damn hate laser skill monster doh.gif ....
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QUOTE(Kazaff @ May 21 2012, 10:30 AM)
char stat?ur pic no show any stat...

i more worst,just finish normal mode, n go to nightmare keep die n die, if meet yellow mod , sure run whole map sweat.gif ...

start find vit equipment...n damn hate laser skill monster doh.gif ....
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15.8k hp now....
but seriously really hard...

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Nightmare mode, your spirit walk must be on all time run away when you live low
haunt leech is depend but nightmare mode your leech wont help much cause like my noob armor 1 hit 100~200 when swarm spirit walk help most and the soul harvest make good use can heal 2500+
get as much armor and vit as possible, int and dex is the next
all summon skill is complete rubbish at that point
hex is the best to counter on gay mobs
spirit walk is the skill that watch your barbarian die ahaha
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QUOTE(takkicom @ May 21 2012, 10:37 AM)
Nightmare mode, your spirit walk must be on all time run away when you live low
haunt leech is depend but nightmare mode your leech wont help much cause like my noob armor 1 hit 100~200 when swarm spirit walk help most and the soul harvest make good use can heal 2500+
get as much armor and vit as possible, int and dex is the next
all summon skill is complete rubbish at that point
hex is the best to counter on gay mobs
spirit walk is the skill that watch your barbarian die ahaha
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hell mode what really bugs me
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too bad mine all crappy item so far i stop forging
i direct buy everything from the AH
cheaper and the stats you wanted
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Good luck in hell bro. See you when I get there. That's why I said that I 'hope' to prove people wrong.

Seems like most people are complaining about being out of mana and not doing enough damage. Maybe the solution might be to look at other angles. I never expect the WD to be a dmg dealer anyway.

Well, that's part of the fun of gaming, I guess. No fun being able to steamroll through everything. And I'm a sucker for punishment.
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Gargantuan is a freaking tanker. My follower died but my Gargantuan can solo the boss without dying
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ May 21 2012, 11:09 AM)
Gargantuan is a freaking tanker. My follower died but my Gargantuan can solo the boss without dying
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you can choose better skill than him, its cant help much when magical spammer boss
sentry is nuking it like raping ahahaha

firebomb is fun to play
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gargantuan is freaking useless in hell mode. the bosses with skills can killed it in seconds

like i say, WD best skill come at lvl 54

grasp of dead > zombie bear... BOOM everything died

my zombie bear at lvl 56 with critical can achieve close to 40k damage at the moment laugh.gif
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I'm curious why US there they play "bad medicine+ poison" type ar??

Good control mobs n not easy die?
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acid rain is just so imba omg.
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Bad medicine reduce damage your entire party receives.

The less that your wizards, barbs and demon hunters need to worry about getting killed, the more damage your entire team does.
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dogs die too easily... nightmare act3 boss now but gave up after dying 5 times... i wonder how i'm going to survive hell...
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Nightmare just about to enter Act II. Having lots of fun with WD, when meeting mobs, Acid Rain, Hex+Angry Chicken, Soul Harvest+Siphon, Swarm. Passive skills, Jungle Fortitute, Gruesome Feast, Bad Medicine.

Result: Kamikaze mode + Health Regen + Int AWESOME! biggrin.gif
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Currently at lv47 nightmare act3
Still using dogs + gargantuan to play
somehow i'm using stun+chill+immobilize all stack up around 5%+ chances
acid rain dmg/sec, firebomb flash, dogs bite, gargantuan all attack together surprisingly give me a good impact of effect, almost permanently stun elite/champion, while others die easily under my acid rain with soul harvest.

my hp is just 5k, 1.6k dps, sacrifice my vit to put gold find, but survive quite well, my dogs as well, can sustain until my next cooldown. The moment i die is because of lag especially vortex who create lags very much

so i guess the key is use more disable effects in order to use dogs to fight


Added on May 22, 2012, 9:46 amyay,
personally i think WD is the hardest but funniest class to play
unlike others run and shoot, clash and smash

lot different ways to play WD, really enjoying it although it took some hard times (die many times before realize how to play goof)


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QUOTE(Shenyang @ May 22 2012, 08:16 AM)
Nightmare just about to enter Act II. Having lots of fun with WD, when meeting mobs, Acid Rain, Hex+Angry Chicken, Soul Harvest+Siphon, Swarm. Passive skills, Jungle Fortitute, Gruesome Feast, Bad Medicine.

Result: Kamikaze mode + Health Regen + Int AWESOME! biggrin.gif
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i notice WD is very versatile. Having fun playing different style

1) Can be play as pure damage, pump all intelligent and damage but your Hp and def kinda low.
Fun to see yellow crit damage all the time but have to be aware of your hp.

2) Can play as tanker. if you notice, Witch Doc got a lot healing Hp and Mana skill.
Instead of holding voodoo doll, carry a shield with got good block ability. Choose armor that give more def instead of int.
I did test 1 on 1 with boss. Can tank but if enemy has much more DPS attack then its a bit harder.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...33;Zb!baaZa
ya, that time i still low lvl

3) Can play as supportive. Just use all supportive skills.

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QUOTE(shincy @ May 22 2012, 09:43 AM)
Currently at lv47 nightmare act3
Still using dogs + gargantuan to play
somehow i'm using stun+chill+immobilize all stack up around 5%+ chances
acid rain dmg/sec, firebomb flash, dogs bite, gargantuan all attack together surprisingly give me a good impact of effect, almost permanently stun elite/champion, while others die easily under my acid rain with soul harvest.

my hp is just 5k, 1.6k dps, sacrifice my vit to put gold find, but survive quite well, my dogs as well, can sustain until my next cooldown. The moment i die is because of lag especially vortex who create lags very much

so i guess the key is use more disable effects in order to use dogs to fight


Added on May 22, 2012, 9:46 amyay,
personally i think WD is the hardest but funniest class to play
unlike others run and shoot, clash and smash

lot different ways to play WD, really enjoying it although it took some hard times (die many times before realize how to play goof)
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can show me ur detail about ur equipment?o stat?i found out gargantuan too easy to die in nightmare ,n u said dog hard to die?that make me feel weird how u 'play' with ur dog.... brows.gif any guide playing summoner?
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Basically this is the build:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;Zdb!aZ.ZZZ
Sometime i do change locust swarm into big bad vodoo to increase atk speed when face with strong single target (champion)

Working now, can't show you fully, this is my current stats, it is still very low compare others, i put a lot of gold find equipment (124%) and sacrify better vit/int equipment.
Stats:
Str 243
Dex 122
Int 690
Vit 295
HP 6714
Mana 732
Damage 1641
Armor 1500

2.2% chill
2.2% stun
1.2% immobilize
since the sum 5.6% of these effects already so great (just realize), will further explore in next equipment purchasing to further increase the sum effect especially focus on stun/freeze on hit, will can surely able extend our dogs a little

I think WD is the best most hits/sec class, where you can utilize chance on hit eq the max, i will explore it little more and see if works in hell/inferno.

Currently my build is quite safe and fun, when face with elites the flash bomb jump btw them and stun a lot, while facing champion i just run and wait pet stun it than only i attack. Oh ya, the lob lob acid rain also does contribute hits/sec.

Tactics:
Clear Mobs = Acid Rain + Flash bomb
Single Target = Locust Swarm/Whatever (maybe can replace locust swarm with fetish army)
Escape = I put soul harvest to gain life + potion, still can save my ass.
Boss Fight = The build doesn't work well on act boss, need to change some skills.

if you would like see the effect, just add me Shincy#6342

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just start to play my 2nd character after barbarian

i saw witch doctor really fun to play, how many pets i can summon to fight for me (permanently)? i know there are dogs and a giant..

not those big spider, frog, voodoo (chicken) which will dissapear..biggrin.gif


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any inferno WD willing to shed some points? the pets are a laughable joke.
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Inferno Doctor checking in biggrin.gif

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Pets r useless in Hell mode, dont talk bout Inferno lol ~ haha

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Hell is a money-loser.

One elite frog pack with bad skill combo (vortex + jail + desecrate ) took me 3 deaths to clear mad.gif
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andy, pls remove your id or you'll get hack.
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Ok thanks for the advice
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QUOTE(AndyNoobie @ May 22 2012, 02:18 PM)
Inferno Doctor checking in  biggrin.gif 

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mine almost double yours sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 22 2012, 04:10 PM)
your damage is quite low compare to my witch doctor  rclxub.gif

mine almost double yours  sweat.gif
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Look at his defensive stats biggrin.gif
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my vit/hp is lower but other than that is the same or slightly better

in inferno all the monster minimum of 100k hp which is kinda amusing

and the champions/elites is sooo damn hard without a proper tanker
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With the same block and DR? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 22 2012, 04:10 PM)
your damage is quite low compare to my witch doctor  rclxub.gif

mine almost double yours  sweat.gif
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I still noob >.< how come ur DMG so high @@ 1hand or mojo?

@Laksa my def stat consider low or what? Never compare with other WD yet €.<
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QUOTE(AndyNoobie @ May 22 2012, 07:00 PM)
I still noob >.< how come ur DMG so high @@ 1hand or mojo?

@Laksa my def stat consider low or what? Never compare with other WD yet €.<
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Does the shield help? I thought Inferno will 2-hit kill anything anyways no matter what defense you get
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 22 2012, 07:05 PM)
not sure unsure.gif

Does the shield help? I thought Inferno will 2-hit kill anything anyways no matter what defense you get
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QUOTE(AndyNoobie @ May 22 2012, 07:27 PM)
It does help with additioner 600++ def, block some attacks as well. All my stuff is on Vit & Int based. Inferno? Act 2 = max 3 hit u can tank, 4 with spirit vessel lollolol
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 22 2012, 07:31 PM)
keng wor, geared barbarians die in 2-3 hits blink.gif haha wub.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 21 2012, 02:41 PM)
gargantuan is freaking useless in hell mode. the bosses with skills can killed it in seconds

like i say, WD best skill come at lvl 54

grasp of dead > zombie bear... BOOM everything died

my zombie bear at lvl 56 with critical can achieve close to 40k damage at the moment laugh.gif
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yea zombie bear is the way to go.... thumbup.gif

easpecially with Soul Harvest then pop BBV......semua terus mati

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QUOTE(lordsapt @ May 22 2012, 09:04 PM)
yea zombie bear is the way to go....  thumbup.gif

easpecially with Soul Harvest then pop BBV......semua terus mati
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Haha wait til u masuk inferno, u cow them 99, they just hit u 2-3 times u masuk spirit vessel hahaha tongue.gif

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QUOTE(AndyNoobie @ May 22 2012, 09:33 PM)
Haha wait til u masuk inferno, u cow them 99, they just hit u 2-3 times u masuk spirit vessel hahaha tongue.gif
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spirit walk,soul harvest, BBV, boom fetish army, spam BEAR.... cabut like crazy lol
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I recommend my fellow WD's to find a decent 2H weapon.
I recently bought a 200 dmg with int/vit stack stats for 10k and my damage has doubled! flex.gif

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bought out this ceremonial dagger for 15k at auction house, the ruby i add myself. good price ?

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that's expensive for low level

usually below lvl 45, i won't get any item above the price of 10k since i be changing equipment so frequently

for WD at inferno mode, without the hex skill with the heal rune, the life iso freaking difficult. The hex guy can heal you while kiting mob and then even change the monster into chicken. What a skill we have so far. But oh well, i still die like 100 times to mortar boss
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i'm still in nightmare mode for now lol. only lv 34

enjoy the level for now 1st. then only think about hell or inferno later on sweat.gif


i did search for legendary items. all lousy stats compared to rare items

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so far im lv51 and in hell act1
pretty cool to geared up 18%+ effects of chill,freeze,stun,immobilize,fear
most of the times it work like charm if you able to clear mobs asap, 15%+ effects with dogs and darts is simply too good =)
with 4 dogs and dart splinter/bomb, almost locked every single target elites/champion and even diablo/azmodan.
with vision quest, able to spam acid rain and make it as main disable skill to allow my 3 teammates kill and rush mush faster and easier.

but still do die when 2 group of elites and elites+champion come together
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Gonna see how far I can go with Leaping Spider spam before I get bored.

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Just kill-ed diablo in hell mode rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif , so hard to kill by myself mad.gif

really took long but do-able I wonder inferno if i can solo diablo anot biggrin.gif
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1 question, wondering WD damage only applies with INT, + xxx damage.
Weapon damage not included rite ?
What abt DOT? and weap or effect with + crit

Thanks
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 23 2012, 04:08 AM)
bought out this ceremonial dagger for 15k at auction house, the ruby i add myself. good price ?

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QUOTE(bansai @ May 21 2012, 11:10 PM)
dogs die too easily... nightmare act3 boss now but gave up after dying 5 times... i wonder how i'm going to survive hell...
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Nightmare act 3 boss super easy leh, jus avoid fireball thats it hahaha i would beliel is much harder compare to this boss.


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Would dire bats be better?  unsure.gif
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I recommend my fellow WD's to find a decent 2H weapon.
I recently bought a 200 dmg with int/vit stack stats for 10k and my damage has doubled!  flex.gif
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I tried 2H, i dont like it at boss fight n also on elites that move very fast or can tele. The skills come out like watching matrix in slow motion. It also kinda suck when kiting cause everytime u stop n shoot something, because of the slow factor, the mob would probably catch n bash u 1 or 2x


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bought out this ceremonial dagger for 15k at auction house, the ruby i add myself. good price ?

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Bad investment bro.... When i was level 35 i bought a rare off a vendor in act 2 nightmare i think. It has 90+ dps, int, vit n mana regen for only 12k. Got socket too

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Hi experts! blush.gif What skills do you guys use to combo with vision quest?

Currently I'm doing Fetish (90sec rune) -> Gargantuan -> Dog -> Hex, spam Dire Bats. I feel Dire Bats have better range and mana efficiency than Bears so far.
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anyone doing inferno right now? how much dps does a wd nid to go there? any mate got slot to fill me in?
i see dh with 30 to 40k dmg ...... so does wd nid the same amount?

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dont choose dog cause dag start nightmare is free kill,
few hit die
use wall actually wall can block boss near you but bad side is got long cd
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QUOTE(renishi @ May 23 2012, 02:48 PM)
anyone doing inferno right now? how much dps does a wd nid to go there? any mate got slot to fill me in?
i see dh with 30 to 40k dmg ...... so does wd nid the same amount?

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act 1 that damage should be sufficient

act 2 at least 15-18k?

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ohh u soloing? got a team? hehe
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 23 2012, 02:48 PM)
Hi experts! blush.gif  What skills do you guys use to combo with vision quest?

Currently I'm doing Fetish (90sec rune) -> Gargantuan -> Dog -> Hex, spam Dire Bats. I feel Dire Bats have better range and mana efficiency than Bears so far.
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Normally i will use spirit walk, soul harvest, fetish, unbreakable grasp. To attack i use dart n acid rain. This is to solo. Sometimes i feel bored i will replace dart with explosive frog. For co-op i will replace grasp with hex and fetish with BBV. My talents are pick solely for survivability while able to do good damage.

No offense but i feel ur build wont be good in hell n inferno. Firstly u never use harvest, this alone will reduceur dmg dramatically. Secondly u got only hex to control 1 mob at a time and thats for 15 sec cd. Imagine u got more elites, gg man. They catch up to u, u got no spirit walk to escape. Is more or less a lost cause. Lastly, dire bats r over rated, imagine the mobs tele behind u n ur block, how many shots do u think u canfire away to kill them all around u sweat.gif


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dont choose dog cause dag start nightmare is free kill,
few hit die
use wall actually wall can block boss near you but bad side is got long cd
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Furthermore the wall only last 5 sec, thats imo damn lousy lol

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soul harvest is indeed good but how often will u SW inside to SH, i would prefer to save it to escape even though my passive -2sec cd and then in Hell and inferno... i find that with hex u will have a better chance to survive especially against those charger and teleport champion pack. My build is based on passed wow exp DIE = NO DPS. It is ur choices.... u wan extra 2 to 3k dps or free heal + hex

Sometimes it can hex 2 target if used in the right situation tongue.gif

and my build is a modified version of method's WD
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@renishi yea i agree with u. end of the day is our differences in play style i guess hehehe. personally i use SW a lot. almost ever proc. kinda use to it already.
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QUOTE(lordsapt @ May 23 2012, 02:38 PM)
Bad investment bro.... When i was level 35 i bought a rare off a vendor in act 2 nightmare i think. It has 90+ dps, int, vit n mana regen for only 12k. Got socket too
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SW, SH, locust swam(gain mana with every hit),Zombie bears = WIN

Ofcourse for bosses the skill changes! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 23 2012, 09:22 PM)
which vendor?
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QUOTE(lordsapt @ May 23 2012, 06:45 PM)
Normally i will use spirit walk, soul harvest, fetish, unbreakable grasp. To attack i use dart n acid rain. This is to solo. Sometimes i feel bored i will replace dart with explosive frog. For co-op i will replace grasp with hex and fetish with BBV. My talents are pick solely for survivability while able to do good damage.

No offense but i feel ur build wont be good in hell n inferno. Firstly u never use harvest, this alone will reduceur dmg dramatically. Secondly u got only hex to control 1 mob at a time and thats for 15 sec cd. Imagine u got more elites, gg man. They catch up to u, u got no spirit walk to escape. Is more or less a lost cause. Lastly, dire bats r over rated, imagine the mobs tele behind u n ur block, how many shots do u think u canfire away to kill them all around u sweat.gif
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Ya I also have Spirit Walk on RMB, forgot about that. blush.gif so far Act 2 Hell is smooth, maybe Act 3 will hailat haha

I tried Acid Rain but had problems because it needs 3 ticks to get full efficiency, so I went for Dire Bats because it has really good range and mana/dmg ratio, just better than Bears and Rain. Unbreakable grasp drove me nuts because the short CD makes it tiresome to keep up 300% Vision
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Hex makes it easier to kill blue and gold elite mobs
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 24 2012, 10:01 AM)
Ya I also have Spirit Walk on RMB, forgot about that. blush.gif so far Act 2 Hell is smooth, maybe Act 3 will hailat haha

I tried Acid Rain but had problems because it needs 3 ticks to get full efficiency, so I went for Dire Bats because it has really good range and mana/dmg ratio, just better than Bears and Rain. Unbreakable grasp drove me nuts because the short CD makes it tiresome to keep up 300% Vision
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hmmmm im in hell too. i normally cast 2 times acid rain simultaneously, most mobs will die, then finish of the rest with darts or if mana permits use 1 more acid rain. my mana pool is capable of spamming 4x or 5 acid rain in 1 go i think. maybe is ur weapon, not good enuf probly.
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Okey, I'll try your Acid Rain and Soul Harvest style again. It should be quite useful in Act 3. wub.gif
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any witch doctor here got legendary wizard item and got no use of it? If yes can we exchange? my sweet heart wizard got 1 legendary voodoo mask (orange) yesterday i dunno what to do with it. (definitely sayang if salvage it)
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basically how you guys take on elites on hell mode?
no chance to spam my skills at all, keep on running with SW, i started to feel movement % on boot is very important
some i cant kill at all,
some i died N times before I successfully killed them like mortar,freeze,and so on.

my build is zombie bear, acid rain, sw, sh, hex, gargantuan
in nightmare, my massive debuff equipment (chill/slow/immobilize/stun/freeze) do very handsome with acid rain on nightmare mode, but hell not, the effect is like 1/4 of normal duration only.

while act bosses have no issue, lv56 at act 2 currently
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i cant survive due too super noob item, other get like 100int other great stuff mine drop all STR DEX nth else how to survive
feel dumb
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QUOTE(shincy @ May 24 2012, 02:09 PM)
basically how you guys take on elites on hell mode?
no chance to spam my skills at all, keep on running with SW, i started to feel movement % on boot is very important
some i cant kill at all,
some i died N times before I successfully killed them like mortar,freeze,and so on.

my build is zombie bear, acid rain, sw, sh, hex, gargantuan
in nightmare, my massive debuff equipment (chill/slow/immobilize/stun/freeze) do very handsome with acid rain on nightmare mode, but hell not, the effect is like 1/4 of normal duration only.

while act bosses have no issue, lv56 at act 2 currently
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get confusion with rune that stuns enemies that are not confused with grasp of the dead to slow them down slightly

then just run down them with zombie bear, easy

but this is assuming you have high damage


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QUOTE(shincy @ May 24 2012, 02:09 PM)
basically how you guys take on elites on hell mode?
no chance to spam my skills at all, keep on running with SW, i started to feel movement % on boot is very important
some i cant kill at all,
some i died N times before I successfully killed them like mortar,freeze,and so on.

my build is zombie bear, acid rain, sw, sh, hex, gargantuan
in nightmare, my massive debuff equipment (chill/slow/immobilize/stun/freeze) do very handsome with acid rain on nightmare mode, but hell not, the effect is like 1/4 of normal duration only.

while act bosses have no issue, lv56 at act 2 currently
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I was having problems with Elites until I switched to Shadow Walk + Hex + Gargantuan + Fetish + Dire Bat. If you use the Fetish + Hex + Garg combo on elite, you buy yourself a LOT of time to spam Dire Bats from very far range.

All else fails, go to AH and buy the highest DPS knife for 20-30k biggrin.gif
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any witch doctor solo farming inferno yet?
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 24 2012, 03:55 PM)
any witch doctor solo farming inferno yet?
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inferno can solo la.... except when u face some illusionist + mortar and those skill that can combo de champion pack.... i tried until butcher... cmi.... butcher hook + 1 hit~ spirit vessel proc lol
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any pro WD can advice me for skill build in soloing hell mode? i find it pretty hard to kill purple/gold name boss/mob
im currently level 54 in hell act 2
hp 26k dmg 3.9k armor 2.8k
currently my eq set is focus on magic find and i have +100% magic finding, so my dmg is not as high as those dmg dealer
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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ May 24 2012, 08:00 PM)
currently my eq set is focus on magic find and i have +100% magic finding, so my dmg is not as high as those dmg dealer
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like that you kantoi sendiri wor unsure.gif why not gear best DPS to clear the story first, then go back to farm with magic find?
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WD required which attribute most ? Int ?
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Vitality is almost as important in later difficulties.
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beginning -> damage/int . you'll hardly use your potion
later - > vitality / def.
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Question for you WD experts. Which weapon should I take for level 60?

900dps 2H
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1H + Mojo
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 25 2012, 10:39 AM)
Question for you WD experts. Which weapon should I take for level 60?

900dps 2H
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1H + Mojo
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2H weapon with int + vit + atk speed...
2H give u the best damage output/ mana ratio (provided if u are using method's VQ build)...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 25 2012, 10:48 AM)
2H weapon with int + vit + atk speed...
2H give u the best damage output/ mana ratio (provided if u are using method's VQ build)...
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I agree to a certain extent, but you have to consider that Mojo can provide very high added damage output and alot more boost to stats if you have a solid 1-hander.

I'm using a 1-hander + shield combo. Build around balance INT + VIT and HP on Hit, I can tank creeps better than most barbs, especially if you play with the 4 skill cooldown = 300% mana regen passive. Play with Big Bad Voodoo and Soul Harvest for increase damage + attack speed bonus, as well as some awesome heals.
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QUOTE(Xorp @ May 25 2012, 11:40 AM)
I agree to a certain extent, but you have to consider that Mojo can provide very high added damage output and alot more boost to stats if you have a solid 1-hander.

I'm using a 1-hander + shield combo. Build around balance INT + VIT and HP on Hit, I can tank creeps better than most barbs, especially if you play with the 4 skill cooldown = 300% mana regen passive. Play with Big Bad Voodoo and Soul Harvest for increase damage + attack speed bonus, as well as some awesome heals.
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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ May 25 2012, 11:51 AM)
mind to share ur skill build? which skill u spam for dps?
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Toads + Rain of Toads OR Firebomb + Flash Fire
Locust + Devouring Swarm
Spirit Walk + Honored Guest
Soul Harvest + Siphon
Wall of Zombies + Unrelenting Grip
Big Bad Voodoo + Ghost Trance.
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the best of 1H + mojo, is the mana regenand some stats boost, where more mana regen you can spam any skills infinitely with VQ
it is good to go with 1H + mojo if your 1H weapon is 1k+
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I going with 1H and shield at the moment need more def than usual did, now i 2k+ armor still take 1000+ damage
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anyone playing support WD?
care to share ur skill build?
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QUOTE(shincy @ May 25 2012, 12:04 PM)
the best of 1H + mojo, is the mana regenand some stats boost, where more mana regen you can spam any skills infinitely with VQ
it  is good to go with 1H + mojo if your 1H weapon is 1k+
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with VQ u dun really need mana regen at all...
all u need is to put long CD skills...

this is the build i am using, lots of mana to spam even with a 2H...
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;WVU!aaZZcZ

basically the long CD will enable high VQ uptime even without any mana regen stats (which then defeats the need for 1H and mojo)...
with this, i can invest more into other stats like int, atk speed, crit instead...
and of course, 2H do have higher damage which scales so well with the other skills...

it is usable for kiting as well wit the long range for bats, aoe snare and of course spirit walking...

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With that build I also OOM very fast with 3 mana regen pieces, because pierce the veil is really mana sucking blink.gif
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 25 2012, 03:11 PM)
With that build I also OOM very fast with 3 mana regen pieces, because pierce the veil is really mana sucking blink.gif
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freaking hard for witch doctor to solo inferno after act 1

i don't even know what kind of gear i need to survive

after Spirit Walk and Spirit Vessel proc, i am practically a free meat already

And yes, Witch Doctor just drop your spirit bear, and other aoe skills after act1 of inferno. They are just useless, preferably get hex, horrify, grasp of dead etc to improve survival.

Attack speed is also priority since we will be using darts, darts, darts


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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;VUf!ZaZaYZ

You reckon this build will be viable in Inferno?
My attack speed is 2.31/second

The fact that I have 4 spirit skills with 'Rush of Essence' passive makes my mana 'unlimited'. But I'm not sure whether the damage will be efficient to take down enemies fast enough in Inferno.
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You will be able to kill all those normal mobs, but elite mobs will be too difficult.

Imo splinter darts is still the best skill. If you remove spirit barrage means you don't have to use vision quest which is an added advantage for other passive skills.

But meh, there is nothing wrong in testing builds. Just test it first then tell me the result. So far i tested with 4 different kind of builds and all of them seems to not excel like Wizard or Demon Hunter sweat.gif
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Wafak.... 7100dps cannot make it in Inferno Act 1 sad.gif

Kill one fat zombie with PV also takes forever.
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 25 2012, 10:14 PM)
Wafak.... 7100dps cannot make it in Inferno Act 1 sad.gif

Kill one fat zombie with PV also takes forever.
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I feel as if you'll need at least 15k/20k dps, a decent chunk of HP and items with all res.
So farm hell for now so that you can get items that stack INT/VIT and all resistance.
Then slowly progress! flex.gif

EDIT: Don't forget attack speed % also if you're using a dart build.

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darts u have to use splinters and dire bats have the highest burst~

i have 12 to 14k dps for act 1 and it is just sufficient... tried to solo butcher keep wipe... (when left 10% whole map fire.... haha, i done)

btw, this is a word of advice.... dont bother stacking vit for hp for inferno... since u will be getting 1 shot anyway.... just have around 20k+ and spirit vessel will be enough (dying is common in inferno)
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QUOTE(renishi @ May 26 2012, 11:05 AM)
darts u have to use splinters and dire bats have the highest burst~

i have 12 to 14k dps for act 1 and it is just sufficient... tried to solo butcher keep wipe... (when left 10% whole map fire.... haha, i done)

btw, this is a word of advice.... dont bother stacking vit for hp for inferno... since u will be getting 1 shot anyway.... just have around 20k+ and spirit vessel will be enough (dying is common in inferno)
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1 hit ko? is that physical or magic? what stats should we focus on for inferno? does armor helps? all resistant? or we rather focus on dmg, chance to stun/immobilize etc
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Crowd control is darn hard at hell and inferno, creeps is gonna screwed u anyway ignoring your tank or what so ever. Grasp, SW and MH+Stun all the way lol. tongue.gif
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hell still ok... once u geared up other than reflect dmg u can handle or carry anyone

but for inferno.... act 2 = act of death
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QUOTE(renishi @ May 26 2012, 05:52 PM)
hell still ok... once u geared up other than reflect dmg u can handle or carry anyone

but for inferno.... act 2 = act of death
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it's almost impossible for wd to solo act 2 needless to say act 3 and act 4 in inferno

not sure what to do anymore as wd when solo doh.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 26 2012, 06:10 PM)
it's almost impossible for wd to solo act 2 needless to say act 3 and act 4 in inferno

not sure what to do anymore as wd when solo doh.gif
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anything worthy to purchase ?

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finally up to inferno
life on hit + acid rain is the best healing skill
25k hp full in 2-3 seconds
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ May 26 2012, 08:47 PM)
anything worthy to purchase ?

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To me, any weapon below lv51 that cost more than 50k considered not worthy.
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To me, any weapon below lv51 that cost more than 50k considered not worthy.
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so just continue hunting?

or find one which is really cheap ?
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help, need a skill build to kill rakanoth hell mode
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help, need a skill build to kill rakanoth hell mode
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what is your battlenet id?
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nevermind, killed rakanoth easily after i hire the follower in town, forgot to hire after leaving party XD
killed diablo too and got my wd to inferno hehe

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Inferno is where the real "fun" begins hehe
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is my stats ok for a lv 46 WD ? i dun solo, only party with my friends. 1 barb and 1 dh

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don't really have to worry at nightmare stage yet about stats and such

but i can say, you don't need so much hp at that mode yet
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just when i hit 60 and wanna get some upgrades, the bloody AH goes down while im browsing... ZzZz.. a sweet 970dps 2H for sale then, timeout..
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 27 2012, 03:11 AM)
don't really have to worry at nightmare stage yet about stats and such

but i can say, you don't need so much hp at that mode yet
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DPS output is more important for WD regardless of level and difficulty

It may look really fun to survive, but get used to death now rather than later on laugh.gif

And 2H weapon is not worth for WD trust me. Get a good 1h Weapon preferably with attack speed and good voodoo doll for maximum dps
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DPS output is more important for WD regardless of level and difficulty

It may look really fun to survive, but get used to death now rather than later on laugh.gif

And 2H weapon is not worth for WD trust me. Get a good 1h Weapon preferably with attack speed and good voodoo doll for maximum dps
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for boss fight i use the good ol spliter darts for single target dps

for normal group mobs, i use fire bomb with the bounce rune
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any good 1h weapon you can wear of course. good damage + attackspeed with int and vit is of course the best you can get off already. socketed together is a plus of course. but that's probably best when you are 60, low-ish level don't really matter just go for the one that gives you the best Damage

Poison dart + splinters rune = best WD skills laugh.gif
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is hex good ? any other skills with good potential
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Hex is very useful in inferno mode since it can turn elites into chicken too. But the problem is the hex guy is not consistent, it seems to turn random mob into chicken instead of prioritize boss or mob that are hitting u.

Zombie bear at lvl 54 is your highest damage skill. Making lvl 54-60 clearing mobs far far far easier
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how about zombie walls and locust swarm

and mass confusion as well


dmm really cnt make up my mind which combo to go sweat.gif
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Guys i need help with my level 56 wd. Just start on act 3 hell and using the bear charge+ vq but whenever i try to soul harvest and charge, my hp already dropped to 1/5. My int and vit are 1k and 7xx respectively and hp 2xk. Any solution so that i can play bear easily? My money is around 10k so upgrading is not an option unless you guys suggest a good place for making money. I just cant survive the early stages of act 3 so i think will have problem later on. Btw my dps is around 3k
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Guys i need help with my level 56 wd. Just start on act 3 hell and using the bear charge+ vq but whenever i try to soul harvest and charge, my hp already dropped to 1/5. My int and vit are 1k and 7xx respectively and hp 2xk. Any solution so that i can play bear easily? My money is around 10k so upgrading is not an option unless you guys suggest a good place for making money. I just cant survive the early stages of act 3 so i think will have problem later on. Btw my dps is around 3k
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3k is kinda insufficient for hell, my WD at hell act 1 with 7k DPS still screwed by some imba elites combo.
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Try dire bats. The range is 40 yrds so you can spam from veli veli far away rclxub.gif
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Actually my damage was about 6k before i invest some of my int to vits. But now, i still struggling with either bear or dire bats. Any other advice on the build?

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Just farm your gold up to 20k then buy the highest DPS knife for that price. Even levelling your side char in normal mode gets you 20k very quickly.

I bought a 300dps dagger for 12k at 55 which made 55-59 a breeze
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I actually am using a 1h sword with 39x dmg and a waga doll with 110 int and some dmg. Mind sharing your build?
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I'm level 60 now... but at 55 I was 4k+ DPS with this noob-friendly build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;ZUb!acacYb

For elite packs, I blow all 4 pet skills, which buys me tons of time to spam dire bats from far away.
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What about your stats? Did you just max int or both int and vit?
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 27 2012, 04:44 PM)
I'm level 60 now... but at 55 I was 4k+ DPS with this noob-friendly build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;ZUb!acacYb

For elite packs, I blow all 4 pet skills, which buys me tons of time to spam dire bats from far away.
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i tot blizzard fixed that every button has a fix numbers of skills to choose from?
i tried very hard to check on what you guys did, i can't find the left right button on my skill page.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ May 27 2012, 05:45 PM)
sorry for a noob question, how u guys assign other skills to other button?

noob lester, already playing inferno still ask this q?
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noob  lester, already playing inferno still ask this q?
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How the hell can i kill the immuned elite? Damn frustated already use bear no dmg
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QUOTE(nemesis94 @ May 27 2012, 08:25 PM)
How the hell can i kill the immuned elite? Damn frustated already use bear no dmg
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if u're in inferno, run when u see invulnerable/shielding/immune elites. tongue.gif
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What about Hell? I just cant kill them without dropping my hp to 5%
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is this a good buy out for 15k ? both the gems come together

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What about Hell? I just cant kill them without dropping my hp to 5%
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how is this build? seriously no SV? and is he using life steal % or life on hit? hmm.gif

tried already and this build clear mobs damn fast lol on inferno act 1, havent try with elites yet

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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ May 28 2012, 12:30 AM)

how is this build? seriously no SV? and is he using life steal % or life on hit?  hmm.gif
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Inferno is far different. No way he can use that built to fight Diablo
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Hell mode bro, i can just stand infront of Diablo and right clicking him to death without moving

Inferno is far different. No way he can use that built to fight Diablo
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Inferno act 1 is really easy once you get the flow. But Act 2 is a different case for WD who has poor survival and fairly lower dps compare to DH or Wizard.

Kiting mob the entire day already made my hand pain as hell in Act 2
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100int 50vit 200+- armor can survive Hell

my current stats:
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get a weapon which life on hit 900+, activate VQ + mana restore BBV
if ur dps 15k with some critical, during the BBV 20sec keep spamming acid rain u will be godlike for 20s and open room for ur teammate to take down or almost 1 from them.
but when u meet frozen, don't do that, just spam and run

not applicable in inferno act2, since the recover rate unable match with dmg taken rate
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QUOTE(takkicom @ May 28 2012, 01:36 AM)
can de boost your stats go AH buy everything magic enough 5~10k
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100int 50vit 200+- armor can survive Hell

my current stats:
1770 int
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armor 2678
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my current stats...
???? int
???? vit
armor 2k
damage 6xxx
life 15xxx

i m working right now ,so forget correct stats ,but i still cant tank at act4, most of the creep can 1 hit kill me,even saw elite i need c condition to restart o the type of elite i can kill,http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;bZU!caaZcb rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(takkicom @ May 28 2012, 01:36 AM)
can de boost your stats go AH buy everything magic enough 5~10k
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100int 50vit 200+- armor can survive Hell

my current stats:
1770 int
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armor 2678
damage 3999
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this dragon born is a master in conjuration spell
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hey there all the WD.


blastmeister#1374 is checking in with the crowd...
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15k DPS barely make it in Act 1 (it is 18k with PV) hmm.gif

How much DPS are you Inferno WDs having?
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i am currently on 40k dps now at act 3 also kinda pointless with forever kiting.

i have close to 400 resistance on all with 3.5k armor + jungle fortitude + bad medicine also get 1 shotted by all mob laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 28 2012, 03:22 PM)
i am currently on 40k dps now at act 3 also kinda pointless with forever kiting.

i have close to 400 resistance on all with 3.5k armor + jungle fortitude + bad medicine also get 1 shotted by all mob laugh.gif
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how much health u haz o? even normal white mobs one shot u also?
so how much health does a witch doctor needs in order not to be one shotted?
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lols i mainly use poison only poison run poison run~
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ May 28 2012, 03:50 PM)
how much health u haz o? even normal white mobs one shot u also?
so how much health does a witch doctor needs in order not to be one shotted?
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not all the time 1 shotted, sometime put me really low hp or spirit vessel immediately proc

but oh well, most of the time the mob do about 50k damage or so rclxub.gif
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When you guys beat Inferno Butcher the 1st time, was it solo or in group?

Macam WD solo inferno 1st time sure cannot escape enrage timer. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 28 2012, 04:58 PM)
When you guys beat Inferno Butcher the 1st time, was it solo or in group?

Macam WD solo inferno 1st time sure cannot escape enrage timer. rclxub.gif
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Solo biggrin.gif Zombie Bears are scary lil things
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ May 28 2012, 05:24 PM)
Solo biggrin.gif Zombie Bears are scary lil things
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This guy killed it in like 9 seconds -.-"

Has it been posted on this thread before?

Ofcourse I couldnt do that but it took me some time!
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ May 28 2012, 05:32 PM)
This guy killed it in like 9 seconds -.-"

Has it been posted on this thread before?

Ofcourse I couldnt do that but it took me some time!
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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ May 28 2012, 06:39 PM)
how to kill butcher solo? i died 30 times already
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Here's the 9 secs video! >.<


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QUOTE(Kissan @ May 28 2012, 08:13 PM)
cry.gif  u should see mine... attack only 1.8k .

Still at Nightmare Act 3 but Lvl 50 edi  cry.gif
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You will be 60 real soon! wink.gif I have trouble with act 2 inferno TT
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My 1st solo Butcher Inferno kill, 5 stacks Nephalem buff and the fukker drops three 200 dps weapons doh.gif

RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE mad.gif
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Boss drop lousy items 1. Elites/chest drop more rares than him.
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My 1st solo Butcher Inferno kill, 5 stacks Nephalem buff and the fukker drops three 200 dps weapons doh.gif

RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE mad.gif
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what is ur dps?
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QUOTE(Kissan @ May 28 2012, 10:22 PM)
Boss drop lousy items 1. Elites/chest drop more rares than him.
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Incorrect. Boss drops far superior items with minimum 2-3 yellows when u have 5 nephalem valor stack
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what is ur dps?
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ah ic
i finally killed butcher solo after like 50 tries, buying stuff from AH until no more gold to pump up stats, get up to nearly 17k dps only can kill it
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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ May 29 2012, 01:46 AM)
ah ic
i finally killed butcher solo after like 50 tries, buying stuff from AH until no more gold to pump up stats, get up to nearly 17k dps only can kill it
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Yay gratz! 17k without buff? happy.gif
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yo! just played WD last nite..
level 24 in one seating..
kinda loving it..
it's my 2nd character after the GOD-DPS DH..

which attribute should i focus?
INT+VIT or INT only?



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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ May 29 2012, 01:46 AM)
ah ic
i finally killed butcher solo after like 50 tries, buying stuff from AH until no more gold to pump up stats, get up to nearly 17k dps only can kill it
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anything good dropped? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 11:23 AM)
yo! just played WD last nite..
level 24 in one seating..
kinda loving it..
it's my 2nd character after the GOD-DPS DH..

which attribute should i focus?
INT+VIT or INT only?
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Well, from Normal > Hell, just go for INT > VIT.
It will be easy. Save up as much gold as you can. When you reach lv 60, start getting All Res too.

Also, depending on your skill selection in inferno.
Poison Dart (Splinter Darts), go for IAS% > Weapon Damage % and go for 1H and Mojo/Shield
If it's Dire Bats/Zombie Bears:
2H 1k DPS.

So IMO.. IAS% > WD%, All Res > Int > Vit


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Yay gratz! 17k without buff? happy.gif
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yeah close to 17k without buff, but i dont use those set of eq anymore as it's just plain blue eq with high int plus some vit

QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 29 2012, 11:47 AM)
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nothing LOL, not even a rare


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Well, from Normal > Hell, just go for INT > VIT.
It will be easy. Save up as much gold as you can. When you reach lv 60, start getting All Res too.

Also, depending on your skill selection in inferno.
Poison Dart (Splinter Darts), go for IAS% > Weapon Damage % and go for 1H and Mojo/Shield
If it's Dire Bats/Zombie Bears:
2H 1k DPS.

So IMO.. IAS% > WD%, All Res > Int > Vit
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so is IAS% with high all resistant WD better survival choice in inferno? because i got pwned a lot by elites act 1


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my current stats, new level 60

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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ May 29 2012, 12:12 PM)
yeah close to 17k without buff, but i dont use those set of eq anymore as it's just plain blue eq with high int plus some vit
nothing LOL, not even a rare


Added on May 29, 2012, 12:14 pm
so is IAS% with high all resistant WD better survival choice in inferno? because i got pwned a lot by  elites act 1
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It really depends on the play style really..
Some WDs go class cannon, dump all into INT, IAS% and weapon dmg. Kill fast, but definitely get one shot..

Some tries to find a balance between survivability and dmg output.
If your WD has decent dps (at least 20k - 25k), IAS% 2.3 attk/s, decent AR, at least 400, you'll be fine.
Those stats are from a WD HC player on D3Forum using the splinter dart build.

EDIT: Also, maybe 35k HP would be awesome.
elites must hit you 2/3 times before death. this would give you enough time to run and regain your footing

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lvl53

newer stats
replaced def for damage 2679>2399 Def
weapon dps boosted 2000


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QUOTE(bansai @ May 29 2012, 12:32 PM)
my current stats, new level 60

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bro u got mana to spam zombie charge?
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bro u got mana to spam zombie charge?
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i dont think he have enough mana lol
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Yeah, ZB without VQ = problem.
Some more got Acid Rain blink.gif

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QUOTE(markypcs @ May 29 2012, 02:02 PM)
Yeah, ZB without VQ = problem.
Some more got Acid Rain  blink.gif
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oh.. haha.. was changing my skills around, wanted to test pets build, forgot to change back..

yeah.. was doing the whole ZB charge thing in inferno..
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i would like to ask where can drop lv60 equipment?seem my hell mode act 4 just drop lv 59 item...is that inferno mode act 1 can drop lv 60 equipment? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(DrLaboo @ May 29 2012, 11:23 AM)
yo! just played WD last nite..
level 24 in one seating..
kinda loving it..
it's my 2nd character after the GOD-DPS DH..

which attribute should i focus?
INT+VIT or INT only?
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Int>vit
both is important cause of vit give you more HP
int is damage
my build is 3int>1vit or 2>1
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so 1h + mojo for splinter dart build?
kinda bored with bear and i dowan to stand near bosses =_=
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One thing about WD, we don't have skills that automatically aim at nearest mobs without consuming big portion of our mana.

By using splinter dart, our kiting is not as effective compared to Wiz/DH

Really hard to kite mob in Act 3 pre Siegebreaker
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now..after since day 1 play until now, just knew monza84 is noobhere who always help me in my game. haha..

my experience, hard to handle especially when my dog oweys die, why their life so short one? gargan still ok la. currently using firebomb + spirit as main. other zombie wall, dog and gargan. one more forgot. now at level 41. cannot attach picture as now cannot enter.

lose lots of money at AH, when previously they got prob. buy so many unnecessary item, money become zero, check later on many useless items bought. =.=

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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 29 2012, 06:49 PM)
One thing about WD, we don't have skills that automatically aim at nearest mobs without consuming big portion of our mana.

By using splinter dart, our kiting is not as effective compared to Wiz/DH

Really hard to kite mob in Act 3 pre Siegebreaker
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Another problem with dart is that we sometimes kena elite mob with invul minions. sad.gif
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QUOTE(wira4ce @ May 29 2012, 06:57 PM)
now..after since day 1 play until now, just knew monza84 is noobhere who always help me in my game. haha..

my experience, hard to handle especially when my dog oweys die, why their life so short one? gargan still ok la. currently using firebomb + spirit as main. other zombie wall, dog and gargan. one more forgot. now at level 41. cannot attach picture as now cannot enter.

lose lots of money at AH, when previously they got prob. buy so many unnecessary item, money become zero, check later on many useless items bought. =.=
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ya loh, server down oledy, heard another 8 hours. aiyoyo..they like forcing me to do assignment. banyak jahat la blizzard.

so tempting seeing other people WD. hit 15K ++, mine was 10 times lower than that, even I am at lvl 41. sob3..
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anyone tried 1h w/ mojo higher damage or 2h weapon higher damage? lets say not using darts and attack speed doesnt matter, trying locust build
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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ May 30 2012, 12:18 AM)
anyone tried 1h w/ mojo higher damage or 2h weapon higher damage? lets say not using darts and attack speed doesnt matter, trying locust build
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Well it depends. Ur mojo gotta have high damage. For example i tried a 480dmg+ 2hand weapon with a 390dmg 1handed weapon/40-100dmg mojo, of course the damage of my 1handed weapon with mojo is higher

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Guys , WD got any problem with inferno ?
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Inferno? I saw youtube video on how WD survive inferno alone until ACT 3.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEyk63UaBI4

like this lor same same what i do also
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEyk63UaBI4

like this lor same same what i do also
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LOL that was a great tactic...but my WD won't scream like him...ahahahahaha
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where can i farm good equipment for lvl 60?

or should i farm gold instead and buy from AH.
but AH selling so expensive. almost everything 1million
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Guys , WD got any problem with inferno ?
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Inferno is all about eqs and build, at least decent till act 1 I assumed. smile.gif
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ May 30 2012, 12:04 PM)
where can i farm good equipment for lvl 60?

or should i farm gold instead and buy from AH.
but AH selling so expensive. almost everything 1million
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trade in the AH, sell and buy some of the items but it may takes time...much easier to gain gold from AH then in the game...


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QUOTE(blastmeister @ May 30 2012, 12:00 PM)
LOL that was a great tactic...but my WD won't scream like him...ahahahahaha
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Guys, i got a very newbie question to ask..

There's a time where i got an Rare amulet. And I myself already equipped with one.

When i compare the stats,

Amulet A (the one i found): has higher intelligence than Amulet B (the one I'm wearing)

Amulet B (the one I'm wearing): Has lower intelligence but adds 3-6 damage.

So when I try equip them. I noticed that if I wear:

Amulet A: my % of damage increased due to intelligence is drastically larger. % is say 800%. But damage (shown on the inventory is say 400+)

Amulet B: my % of damage increased is lower. % is say 750%. But damage shown on the inventory window is larger.. say 500+

So which one is the right way? Should i focus entirely on the intelligence itself which can boost the % or focus on increasing the Damage figure on the inventory window?

please advise

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depend see more green = more benefit
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i notice

100 Int VS 100 dmg

damage win as it really add a lot of damage than Int.
but int will give you more resistant.
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Thats why i noticed. My % incrased due to intelligence bonus is at 800%. However damage only 470. When I equipped the other amulet, % increased is at 740%. But damage is at 500+. So this lets me thinking.

I'm at level 35 in nightmare by the way.. is this too weak? blush.gif hmm.gif

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500 too damage is too little for nightmare.

at least need 1k+, have you tried jewels?
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as long you have 1000+- can already doesnt need much actually
nightmare just anoying with eltie creep other doesnt change much
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Thats the thing. I "thought" my items are decent enough but apparently not. Normal creatures have to whack 4-6 times but elite creatures have to whack my ass..

Remember the few elite lembus at the Nightmare's 1st act at the fields trying to look for the Den? Well they ripped my ass off sweat.gif shocking.gif rclxub.gif cry.gif

As a WD, what is the "standard" intelligence bonus that we should hunt for in our items? Anything that +intelligence by 50 and above? Is that enough?

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nightmare elite is where you will learn how to kite. hahahaha


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If that is the case, what are the attributes that the WD should look out for when hunting items or buying from auction house? What are the items that besides intelligence, we can look out for? Dexterity? Strength? or Damage bonus in that Item itself? (e.g. 16-24 cold damage)?


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damage bonus, int vit is more than enough

if have the movement speed is getting better
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But how come now my bonus at 800%, damage is just at 500 only sad.gif

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not sure bout that my bonus 19xx with 5xxx damage
only make 4k~5k dmg
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ May 30 2012, 02:59 PM)
Thats why i noticed. My % incrased due to intelligence bonus is at 800%. However damage only 470. When I equipped the other amulet, % increased is at 740%. But damage is at 500+. So this lets me thinking.

Damage stat is more important. Give you two examples.

Case 1, you equip a damn low dmg weapon with huge INT stats
Base Damage (from weapon, etc) = 100
Damage Increased due to Intelligence 1000%
New Damage = 1,100

Case 2, you equip a damn high dmg weapon with lousy INT stats
Base Damage (from weapon, etc) = 2,000
Damage Increased due to Intellignce = 10%
New Damage = 2,200
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QUOTE(deodorant @ May 30 2012, 05:45 PM)
Damage stat is more important. Give you two examples.

Case 1, you equip a damn low dmg weapon with huge INT stats
Base Damage (from weapon, etc) = 100
Damage Increased due to Intelligence 1000%
New Damage = 1,100

Case 2, you equip a damn high dmg weapon with lousy INT stats
Base Damage (from weapon, etc) = 2,000
Damage Increased due to Intellignce = 10%
New Damage = 2,200
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hmm.. u got a point there hmm.gif In fact my dagger is really at 94 damage only... How the heck find one dagger that can do more damage sweat.gif I thought my dagger was cool enough giving +97 intelligence sweat.gif

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right now just focus until Hell mode and lvl up to 60
you buy now also useless coz you only can use lower than your current lvl. later on when you higher lvl, it'll become junk.

just pick up more yellow or blue treasure and compare which give most stat. the more the better.


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I doubt I can last long with the current setup at Act 1 Nightmare with just a tiny 500+. Like garu garu on Butcher later.. sad.gif

Yes, one of my worries is that I go dump money buying stuffs in AH then end up I've grown out of the items soon.
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ May 30 2012, 06:45 PM)
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hmm.. u got a point there  hmm.gif  In fact my dagger is really at 94 damage only... How the heck find one dagger that can do more damage  sweat.gif  I thought my dagger was cool enough giving +97 intelligence  sweat.gif
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your dagger seems ok. not bad for lvl 35. i remember mine just 70+ during nightmare.

probably other equipment. look out for more int equipment. sometime you can buy good one from NPC in the game
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I'm at work now. Will screenshot prepare then put the items spec here. Seek for u sifu's advice how to buff damage.

Haha.. like seeking consultant liao.. T.T
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im at nightmare i only use a 84dmg dagger with bunch of item stats increased with 100int

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OT: Everyone keeps saying about Stash sharing between characters. HOw the bloody heck to actually do that? I tried here and there also kenot one.. sad.gif

I got some items to pass to my low level character in a different class. So how ah? Both of them are in the same server.
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ May 30 2012, 06:03 PM)
OT: Everyone keeps saying about Stash sharing between characters. HOw the bloody heck to actually do that? I tried here and there also kenot one.. sad.gif

I got some items to pass to my low level character in a different class. So how ah? Both of them are in the same server.
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1) Put item in your stash and log off
2) Log in to your low level char. Check stash.
3) ???
4) Profit tongue.gif

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Har?? How the heck does it work? I see 2 different stash one?

My monk got tiny potions only in its stash while my Witch is full stash :S Am i missing something here?
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you sure you put in the stash box? the big box like in monster hunter?
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The Stash Box has 3 tabs right? Mine only have 1 tab highlighted with the highlighted tab just 1 row only. Pardon for my n00biness
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For Inferno WD, self explanatory link below for the most comprehensive guide,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149014804?page=5#87
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 30 2012, 10:42 PM)
For Inferno WD, self explanatory link below for the most comprehensive guide,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149014804?page=5#87
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Good read rclxms.gif
But half way then TL;DR

Hahaha. Can't blame me, it's already 12.46am here
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QUOTE(markypcs @ May 30 2012, 10:46 PM)
Good read  rclxms.gif
But half way then TL;DR

Hahaha. Can't blame me, it's already 12.46am here
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read whatever Act you are on necessary

where is that to be 12.46 am? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 30 2012, 10:54 PM)
read whatever Act you are on necessary

where is that to be 12.46 am?  shocking.gif
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just to share...butcher in 9 secs is old news,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEF7zYN95A4

3 secs.eyes close?
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QUOTE(tytons @ May 31 2012, 04:40 AM)
just to share...butcher in 9 secs is old news,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEF7zYN95A4

3 secs.eyes close?
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 30 2012, 10:42 PM)
For Inferno WD, self explanatory link below for the most comprehensive guide,

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149014804?page=5#87
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thank for ur link for guide, so hard to living at inferno mode, like other said mario game , 1 life game when meet elite...hope this guide will help...
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just sharing 1 of my founded build:
if you like playing in co-op mode, my current acid rain + 4.9% freeze + 4.5% stun
with using VQ buff, 1H+mojo with mana regen ~20 or +vodoo mask

you can always almost stun+freeze everything on the screen, including butcher who totally stucked under my acid rain, if not the fire could almost lock him until die

just introduce this fun way to play, requirement are:
high mana regen (is better to have 3 gears)
high stun/freeze(primary) and other effects if you like (slow/chill is better)
high atk speed (i think 1 acid rain around 5-10 hits straight, 1 sec you spam 2 and imagine)
high life on hit (is better if you wish to tank, in inferno is better have at least 800+)

but solo mode especially in act2 is kite fest and you need run around and not so practical, but it is a very good debuffer build in co-op mode.

skill builds:
1) acid splinter + acid rain
2) spirit walk(escape if u stuck) + hex(anti charge) + mass confusion(anti gank) +*BBV (atk dmg for ur team)
3) *jungle fortitude + *bad medicine + *vision quest
*optional, depend on your resource, i do change sometime, spirit attenuation works good as well but less spamable

trust me, it is very fun, especially if u hv life on hit you can be tanker(act1) + debuffer,
going to act2, need more def/res & move speed development
the key here is to abuse and fully utilize the good hits/second acid rain

it will make the whole elites pack fight fairy easy especially in act1 & kinda in act2 if the affixes is not vortex/tele/shield/inv minion where u can kite around and have a good dps-er in ur team

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QUOTE(shincy @ May 31 2012, 10:06 AM)
just sharing 1 of my founded build:
if you like playing in co-op mode, my current acid rain + 4.9% freeze + 4.5% stun
with using VQ buff, 1H+mojo with mana regen ~20 or +vodoo mask

you can always almost stun+freeze everything on the screen, including butcher who totally stucked under my acid rain, if not the fire could almost lock him until die

just introduce this fun way to play, requirement are:
high mana regen (is better to have 3 gears)
high stun/freeze(primary) and other effects if you like
high atk speed
high life on hit (is better if you wish to tank, in inferno is better have at least 800+)

but solo mode especially in act2 is kite fest and you need run around and not so practical, but it is a very good debuffer build in co-op mode.

skill builds:
1) acid splinter + acid rain
2) spirit walk + hex + mass confusion +*BBV (atk dmg for ur team)
3) *jungle fortitude + *bad medicine + *vision quest
*optional, depend on your resource, i do change sometime, spirit attenuation works good as well but less spamable

trust me, it is very fun, especially if u hv life on hit you can be tanker(act1) + debuffer,
going to act2, need more def/res & movespeed development
to key here is to abuse and fully utilize the good hits/second acid rain

it will make the whole elites pack fight fairy easy especially in act1 & kinda in act2 if the affixes is not vortex/tele/shield/inv minion where u can kite around and have a good dps-er in ur team
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i need some guide from u, i got around 3.7% stun for weapon n dps 7xx ,n i have around 800k ,if want play type like u , is that i better change whole armor o weapon 1st for stun o freeze effect?o for high mana regen?thank in advance.
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QUOTE(Kazaff @ May 31 2012, 10:27 AM)
i need some guide from u, i got around 3.7% stun for weapon n dps 7xx ,n i have around 800k ,if want play type like u , is that i better change whole armor o weapon 1st for stun o freeze effect?o for high mana regen?thank in advance.
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may i know your level or stage progress? solo or co-op?

normal + nightmare + hell
need good sum % effects (freeze+stun+immobilize+chill+slow = 15%+)
armor doesn't matter as long as you have 300-500 life on hits
mana regen not need so high, as it is much easier to put cc effect on mobs on normal/nightmare/hell, no need spam like no tomorrow in inferno

so, oh ya answer your question:
you should aim to change ur armor 1 by 1 and see the effect, actually 10% already sufficient in normal/nightmare/hell

equipment available effect:
weapon/mojo - all effects
*boot - immobilize
helm - fear
*belt - freeze
*gloves - stun
bracers - knockback
*shoulders - chill
*pants - slow

*this 5 pieces armor you can start with


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QUOTE(shincy @ May 31 2012, 10:43 AM)
may i know your level or stage progress? solo or co-op?

normal + nightmare + hell
need good sum % effects (freeze+stun+immobilize+chill+slow = 15%+)
armor doesn't matter as long as you have 300-500 life on hits
mana regen not need so high, as it is much easier to put cc effect on mobs on normal/nightmare/hell, no need spam like no tomorrow in inferno
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What if all the WD in this forum gang bang the diablo in once? Will be seeing rain of fire bombs, a gang of gargantuan whacking the fella and locust everywhere....it will be a scene...hahahaha
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QUOTE(blastmeister @ May 31 2012, 11:46 AM)
What if all the WD in this forum gang bang the diablo in once? Will be seeing rain of fire bombs, a gang of gargantuan whacking the fella and locust everywhere....it will be a scene...hahahaha
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i created new character to test barbarian, entered public game where other 3 also barbarian
skeleton king can't move at all. get stun from full life to end.

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would be cool if can do that in inferno
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ May 31 2012, 10:56 AM)
i created new character to test barbarian, entered public game where other 3 also barbarian
skeleton king can't move at all. get stun from full life to end.

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would be cool if can do that in inferno
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Added on May 31, 2012, 11:10 ampersonally i like this build, it is what should i have expected from WD -
mainly debuff enemies and buff teammate to lead victory, while i'm being secondary dps-er during debuffing enemies

in solo mode, i feel like being a chicken run and doesn't enjoy the playstyle
with patient i did pass few quests my own but no patient to play like that and also doesn't earn a lot (repair-potion), everyday only 1-2 hours to play

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QUOTE(shincy @ May 31 2012, 10:43 AM)
may i know your level or stage progress? solo or co-op?

normal + nightmare + hell
need good sum % effects (freeze+stun+immobilize+chill+slow = 15%+)
armor doesn't matter as long as you have 300-500 life on hits
mana regen not need so high, as it is much easier to put cc effect on mobs on normal/nightmare/hell, no need spam like no tomorrow in inferno

so, oh ya answer your question:
you should aim to change ur armor 1 by 1 and see the effect, actually 10% already sufficient in normal/nightmare/hell

equipment available effect:
weapon/mojo - all effects
*boot - immobilize
helm - fear
*belt - freeze
*gloves - stun
bracers - knockback
*shoulders - chill
*pants - slow

*this 5 pieces armor you can start with
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inferno mode now,n i think i solo right now,n my fren r already act 2 so i have to solo,thank for ur advice.i start search armor 1st,too weak to tank elite.
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QUOTE(Kazaff @ May 31 2012, 11:22 AM)
inferno mode now,n i think i solo right now,n my fren r already act 2 so i have to solo,thank for ur advice.i start search armor 1st,too weak to tank elite.
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honestly this build is very item dependent, and it is hard to find good items with such effects on market, but the reward is very interesting gameplay instead of being glass cannon, team with high dps barb/wiz/dh it will very effective build, every1 will like you

so, must be patient to search market and buy the 1 that really really good and afforable
e.g: int+all resist
give up on stun/freeze on weapon, get the high dps weapon
stun/freeze let the belt/glove do the job, lv60 should hv 4+%
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Finally hit 60 by powerlevel. tongue.gif

Haven't reach hell's butcher thou lol. Current stats 26k hp, 18k DPS. Wondering can powered through hell or not.
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y not?? i did hell with only 4k dps n even now im with only 16k hp
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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ May 31 2012, 12:52 PM)
Finally hit 60 by powerlevel. tongue.gif

Haven't reach hell's butcher thou lol. Current stats 26k hp, 18k DPS. Wondering can powered through hell or not.
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.. Haven't kill hell's butcher level 60 d?
Champion.

Lol, with that kind of DPS, Hell is a piece of cake for you.
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.. Haven't kill hell's butcher level 60 d?
Champion.

Lol, with that kind of DPS, Hell is a piece of cake for you.
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mine is lvl 53, dps 3950, health 35231..in hell, found it hard coz dps so low...
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mine is lvl 53, dps 3950, health 35231..in hell, found it hard coz dps so low...
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level 59, using mass healing + mana voodoo + HEX + zombie bear combo. kinda good i think
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was solo in inferno act2 last night till zotun kulle cave, die 9999999 times always met with weird elites/combo, the cave find the zotun kulle blood crash up with 6 elites/champ in level1
dps 22k, resistance ~400, hp 30k, armor 2500

damn, have to skip 95% of elites/champions
almost all of them simply cant be kited, teleport, vortex, shield and walking fast nature
all champion i met all have horde + invulnerable minion O.o wtf
sometime when i kite around and end up crash with other elites
in cave, i straight skip all, cant kite at all

end up i direct skip all elites/champions in act2, i think the best is still farm gold in act1 and gear-up
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QUOTE(shincy @ Jun 1 2012, 12:06 PM)
was solo in inferno act2 last night till zotun kulle cave, die 9999999 times always met with weird elites/combo, the cave find the zotun kulle blood crash up with 6 elites/champ in level1
dps 22k, resistance ~400, hp 30k, armor 2500

damn, have to skip 95% of elites/champions
almost all of them simply cant be kited, teleport, vortex, shield and walking fast nature
all champion i met all have horde + invulnerable minion O.o wtf
sometime when i kite around and end up crash with other elites
in cave, i straight skip all, cant kite at all

end up i direct skip all elites/champions in act2, i think the best is still farm gold in act1 and gear-up
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Yup, hooked up with 3 packs of elites with invi minions and horde str8, had to reset game in this situation. tongue.gif

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I'm now a confused soul.. I dont know how to invest/decide on my Skills now.

Character: 46 Witch Doctor
Level: Nightmare
Quest: 1 step before Belial
HP: 12.4k
DPS: 2.84k
Mana: 720
Tanker: Templar + Gargantuan

My Skills Built: MY SKILLS LIKE HERE

I'm unsure on how to proceed further on what are the best way to actually invest on my skills. Are they optimal?

What i do is, when i farm, I run into the bunch of enemies right in between firing line, Use the combo: Grasp + Houl Harvest, then get out of the firing line and start shooting firebombs while occasionally summon Haunt (Resentful Spirit) and Acid Rain (Slow Burn).

Until now, I thought for EACH skillset, the Runes actually STACKS on top of the skill itself. But is this correct? Or the rune actually REPLACES the skill characteristic?

Besides that from the D3 Forums, it seems people are investing on Vision Quest and also Poison Darts. Are they better? I tried but doesnt seem ok for me sad.gif


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Yup, hooked up with 3 packs of elites with invi minions and horde str8, had to reset game in this situation. tongue.gif
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How do you guys handle invulnerable minion elites in inferno?

They always block my dart sad.gif
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Jun 1 2012, 05:44 PM)
I'm now a confused soul.. I dont know how to invest/decide on my Skills now.

Character: 46 Witch Doctor
Level: Nightmare
Quest: 1 step before Belial
HP: 12.4k
DPS: 2.84k
Mana: 720
Tanker: Templar + Gargantuan

My Skills Built: MY SKILLS LIKE HERE

I'm unsure on how to proceed further on what are the best way to actually invest on my skills. Are they optimal?

What i do is, when i farm, I run into the bunch of enemies right in between firing line, Use the combo: Grasp + Houl Harvest, then get out of the firing line and start shooting firebombs while occasionally summon Haunt (Resentful Spirit) and Acid Rain (Slow Burn).

Until now, I thought for EACH skillset, the Runes actually STACKS on top of the skill itself. But is this correct? Or the rune actually REPLACES the skill characteristic?

Besides that from the D3 Forums, it seems people are investing on Vision Quest and also Poison Darts. Are they better? I tried but doesnt seem ok for me sad.gif
Seeking advice from all sifu WDs  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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around the same with my play style last time

but mine: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;bZV!ZZaabZ

hex will save your ass if elite mob come near.
this style have to change if fight boss.

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Thanks bro for the great input.. notworthy.gif

But again.. does the Runes actually STACK on top of the skill's characteristics? or it Replaces them?

I was abit hesitant on Hex because I was unsure hex can actually turn those elites into chickens or not biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 1 2012, 04:55 PM)
How do you guys handle invulnerable minion elites in inferno?

They always block my dart sad.gif
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Champion which are not invi can be hex, hex+grasp then draw its minion away, if meet 2 packs of champion and elites, just skip them lol.


Added on June 1, 2012, 5:28 pm
QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jun 1 2012, 05:01 PM)
around the same with my play style last time

but mine: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;bZV!ZZaabZ

hex will save your ass if elite mob come near.
this style have to change if fight boss.
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Lol I use Spirit Walk + heal rune for bosses, always useful. tongue.gif

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Just want to share my gold farming build in Hell mode. My WD lvl 58 with 140% Gold Find attribute (still upgrading). With this build, I will spam Firebats(Dire Bat rune) from far away. To keep mana spent efficiently, get very high dps slow weapon.

My tactic is, go near to the mobs and activate Soul Harvest to charge your INT, run away using Spirit Walk. When the mobs come close, activate Hex and now Vision Quest will be activated because all skills including Gargantuan on CD. When out of mana to activate Spirit Walk, use Splinter Dart smile.gif

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QUOTE(linearz @ Jun 1 2012, 05:28 PM)
Just want to share my gold farming build in Hell mode. My WD lvl 58 with 140% Gold Find attribute (still upgrading). With this build, I will spam Firebats(Dire Bat rune) from far away. To keep mana spent efficiently, get very high dps slow weapon.

My tactic is, go near to the mobs and activate Soul Harvest to charge your INT, run away using Spirit Walk. When the mobs come close, activate Hex and now Vision Quest will be activated because all skills including Gargantuan on CD. When out of mana to activate Spirit Walk, use Splinter Dart smile.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;UbX!baaZZZ
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Your gargatuan still can tank shocking.gif ? Or just using it for cooldown to use vision quest?
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Your gargatuan still can tank  shocking.gif ? Or just using it for cooldown to use vision quest?
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I'm in still in Hell Mode and it still can tank a bit, but I have Templar for the tanker. For gold farming, don't join party because your Gold Find percentage will be distributed to party members, unless you are a very kind person, I am biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shincy @ Jun 1 2012, 12:06 PM)
was solo in inferno act2 last night till zotun kulle cave, die 9999999 times always met with weird elites/combo, the cave find the zotun kulle blood crash up with 6 elites/champ in level1
dps 22k, resistance ~400, hp 30k, armor 2500

damn, have to skip 95% of elites/champions
almost all of them simply cant be kited, teleport, vortex, shield and walking fast nature
all champion i met all have horde + invulnerable minion O.o wtf
sometime when i kite around and end up crash with other elites
in cave, i straight skip all, cant kite at all

end up i direct skip all elites/champions in act2, i think the best is still farm gold in act1 and gear-up
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after i spent money in auction and upgraded all my stuff i am able to clear everything before zoltun
dps 28k, resistance 120-140, hp 40k, armor 2100

but cant get through belial...sad, click until hand painful liao and stopped playing

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For anyone who use WD, can use this tactic in inferno. haha.




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For anyone who use WD, can use this tactic in inferno. haha.




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invulnerable minion elites
how to kill them?
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if u cant kill them, run
not every class can kill all pack of elites, even if u are good geared
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then, those elites are lebih ones?
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then, those elites are lebih ones?
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more lebih when u killed them all n found out all blue(low stat n low dps plus lv 60 item...)
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T_T sometimes i feel like rerolling my WD sad.gif Too noob d lol.. after watching how DH can do so much damage!
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QUOTE(wira4ce @ Jun 1 2012, 09:14 PM)
For anyone who use WD, can use this tactic in inferno. haha.



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thanks for sharing biggrin.gif

I've just tried this setup just now with some slight tweak

Primary: Firebombs instead of poison darts
Secondary: Acid Rain/Cloud instead of Zombie Bears (not up to level yet)

1: Voodoo
2: Soul Harvest
3: Fetish Army
4: Gargantuan


What i tried is when i meet a bunch of enemies, rush in, Soul Harvest + Fetish Army. Then plant a voodoo inside so that the area affected my allies and myself (and hopefully my creatures) will gain attack bonus.

However, I noticed that with this, the Voodoo and Fetish army is at cooling period but u are by now in the 2nd round of combat with another bunch of creatures. Nothing much i can do as their cooldown is 2 mins but my fetish army already gone by now. Should i put vision quest inside?

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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Jun 2 2012, 12:02 PM)
thanks for sharing biggrin.gif

I've just tried this setup just now with some slight tweak

Primary: Firebombs instead of poison darts
Secondary: Acid Rain/Cloud instead of Zombie Bears (not up to level yet)

1: Voodoo
2: Soul Harvest
3: Fetish Army
4: Gargantuan
What i tried is when i meet a bunch of enemies, rush in, Soul Harvest + Fetish Army. Then plant a voodoo inside so that the area affected  my allies and myself (and hopefully my creatures) will gain attack bonus.

However, I noticed that with this, the Voodoo and Fetish army is at cooling period but u are by now in the 2nd round of combat with another bunch of creatures. Nothing much i can do as their cooldown is 2 mins but my fetish army already gone by now. Should i put vision quest inside?
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VQ is actually the main reason why there is this build! biggrin.gif You need the mana for bears!


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I want 120k damages like DH!

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Increase your critical hit, mine only 7000 dps in level 57, but can do more than 10k dps. if u got better weapon will got oso many hit. believe me. haha, gud luck! I am oso building lvl. after that will roar!
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Increase your critical hit, mine only 7000 dps in level 57, but can do more than 10k dps. if u got better weapon will got oso many hit. believe me. haha, gud luck! I am oso building lvl. after that will roar!
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Faster level! More level 60 wd! My dps 60k still can't 9 seconds butcher haha sad :/
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Faster level! More level 60 wd! My dps 60k still can't 9 seconds butcher haha sad :/
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how much is ur hp ah? do u farm inferno act3/4?
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Not to sure haha.. When I'm back later I'll check.!

Actually the damage is high because of the soul harvest and the big bad voodoo! biggrin.gif
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talk about HP, mine oledy reach 38 k. but still caught up will low level weapon, saving money for weapon at lvl 60. wink.gif
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thanks for the info, any hardcore wd here?
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Are you in hardcore mode? Maybe you can farm a lvl 60 1st and start a hardcore char later on.. Can transfer items and socket better gems biggrin.gif
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Haha if it was hardcore maybe I would be stuck in normal forever @@

Are you in hardcore mode? Maybe you can farm a lvl 60 1st and start a hardcore char later on.. Can transfer items and socket better gems biggrin.gif
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Haha if it was hardcore maybe I would be stuck in normal forever @@

Are you in hardcore mode? Maybe you can farm a lvl 60 1st and start a hardcore char later on.. Can transfer items and socket better gems biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(heaven @ Jun 3 2012, 12:24 AM)
Not sure if, the stash and gold different from SC characters, the crafters also different from SC characters, i rolled a HC char to test it out, all the stuff in SC not accessible for HC chars.
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they are separated a stash for SC and another 1 for HC...things cannot be shared among SC and HC toons
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Oh I see haha they've already looked ahead! Would be interesting if they allowed pvp for hc chars only lol!
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my wd lvl 35, dps only 641. how to increase further ah?

does playing in multiplayer increase the chances of getting good items?
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Last time i focus too much on intelligence. But weapon base damage itself is weak. Try get better weapon and u'll notice that ur intelligence bonus will bump up the stats eventually quite abit.

What base dmg of ur dagger/knife are u having now? i got 3 "retired" knives. If u wan sell to u biggrin.gif
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Last time i focus too much on intelligence. But weapon base damage itself is weak. Try get better weapon and u'll notice that ur intelligence bonus will bump up the stats eventually quite abit.

What base dmg of ur dagger/knife are u having now? i got 3 "retired" knives. If u wan sell to u biggrin.gif
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What is the stat for your retired knives? How much you intend to sell?
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Yeah! After all I got reached lvl 60! ♥

Current stat, HP : 43155, Armor : 2415, DPS : 16604.62

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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Jun 3 2012, 11:57 AM)
Last time i focus too much on intelligence. But weapon base damage itself is weak. Try get better weapon and u'll notice that ur intelligence bonus will bump up the stats eventually quite abit.

What base dmg of ur dagger/knife are u having now? i got 3 "retired" knives. If u wan sell to u biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wira4ce @ Jun 3 2012, 02:27 PM)
Yeah! After all I got reached lvl 60! ♥

Current stat, HP : 43155, Armor : 2415, DPS : 16604.62

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Congratulations!! Now you can farm for items biggrin.gif
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shocking.gif i kenot brain... how the heck did u pump ur life to 40k shocking.gif rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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any wd here solo in inferno act 3/4 mind to share some build? just started act 3 and couldnt pass thru keep depth level 1, cant even skip elites, soul ripper are too gay, restarted many times already and they are still there

42k hp 29k dps 250-300 resistance, poison dart build
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No point having too much hp, u still get one shotted by any mob later on or either pop your spirit vessel.

For inferno act 3 just run pass those elites that are near impossible to be killed such as illusionist, fast, invul minions

For Act 3, i recommend at least 40k dps.

I am now a pure glass cannon built with 20k hp, 65k dps can actually clean the entire act 3 pretty well with the standard witch doctor inferno built

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that the issue, some can have very good dps,for me who are "poor" not afford to build such offensive WD, therefore tanker build is the most suitable as it can save from being killed by one shot. atleast can use spirit before death, which mean double save with some help of spirit vessel.

farming not really easy, got many rare, but all just junk rare. sell in AH oso "invisible" in people eyes. haha. tak laku~
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anyone got WD BIS list? kindly it to pm me smile.gif
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can u clarify BIS...my understanding is Blackberry Internet Service (BIS)
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argh sry, i thought everyone know... BIS= best in slot
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Past few days, I've been changing my gear setup. Spent quite a bit..

Last time too focused on intelligence/damage/vitality. Until around 6k+ dps with 22k life. But realised its like a damn toufu.. 2-3 hits or kena jailed/walled by elites in Hell, then GG for sure..

So now, toned down my damage to around 5.9k and vitality to around 21k only. But bumped up physical and element resistance to around 200+ each. When i hover over the stats its around 44-49% resistance. Do u guys think its enough? I'm at Lvl 54 Hell here.

What are u guys' strategy? Glass cannon or all rounder to survive better in Hell/Inferno?
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i pass hell act 3 only with 14k hp, armor 3k, a lot of stun, freeze and crit chances. Resistant also 200 for all at least. My dps to 10k.

Play VQ zombie bear. Felt like super man, even elite mobs try to run away. Chase them with spirit walk. LOL. Each hit by Zombie bear 15-20k sometime critic 30k.

with blood ritual. since zombie bear is mana eater and you'll keep healing.

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QUOTE(wira4ce @ Jun 3 2012, 10:09 PM)
that the issue, some can have very good dps,for me who are "poor" not afford to build such offensive WD, therefore tanker build is the most suitable as it can save from being killed by one shot. atleast can use spirit before death, which mean double save with some help of spirit vessel.

farming not really easy, got many rare, but all just junk rare. sell in AH oso "invisible" in people eyes. haha. tak laku~
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I spent a large chunk of money buffing survivability, in the end it is a big waste of time and money. Best is buff DPS, and just enough Resist/Vit to take one white hit.
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QUOTE(shinkawa @ Jun 4 2012, 11:05 AM)
i pass hell act 3 only with 14k hp, armor 3k, a lot of stun, freeze and crit chances. Resistant also 200 for all at least. My dps to 10k.

Play VQ zombie bear. Felt like super man, even elite mobs try to run away. Chase them with spirit walk. LOL. Each hit by Zombie bear 15-20k sometime critic 30k.

with blood ritual. since zombie bear is mana eater and you'll keep healing.
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bro u are still in hell level. try inferno, your enemy use spirit walk chase you while u runaway lah hahahahaha.
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Yesterday had my fair share of these... Found some elites.. whack but tried to run away and u know what they did?

They JAILED me first.. Then summon arcane damage and sliced me like tofu... Just 2 spins of the arcane and i'm GG already sweat.gif rclxub.gif

The AI is smart! shocking.gif
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inferno i farm item and gem only. lol
hoping to get item worth few million gold.

i don even bother clear inferno, i want try other character.
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Jun 4 2012, 11:19 AM)
Yesterday had my fair share of these... Found some elites.. whack but tried to run away and u know what they did?

They JAILED me first.. Then summon arcane damage and sliced me like tofu... Just 2 spins of the arcane and i'm GG already  sweat.gif  rclxub.gif

The AI is smart!  shocking.gif
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If JAILED or frozen, use spirit walk, can run punya. Believe me, I use it always. haha..
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OldManChild#6626 reporting in..

any 1 at act II inferno mode?


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QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Jun 4 2012, 12:13 PM)
bro u are still in hell level. try inferno, your enemy use spirit walk chase you while u runaway lah hahahahaha.
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lol i use spirit walk and my movespeed +11 also got chase by crazy frog LOL...
im gona try boot +12 ms later.

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QUOTE(wira4ce @ Jun 4 2012, 12:02 PM)
If JAILED or frozen, use spirit walk, can run punya. Believe me, I use it always. haha..
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usually i lanC and stay and fight.. but now really kenot la.. sweat.gif sweat.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 4 2012, 11:08 AM)
Azurues is correct doh.gif

I spent a large chunk of money buffing survivability, in the end it is a big waste of time and money. Best is buff DPS, and just enough Resist/Vit to take one white hit.
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what stats u currently have? hp/res?
farming at which act?
i already started all resist build yesterday also and spent few mils..
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Yeah. Spirit walk is a must. And i did add the 3 sec spirit realm passive. Hahahaha
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my item like this also cant survive in inferno act II chap 7.

anyone can comment at my item, i like to improve it..

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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ Jun 4 2012, 12:25 PM)
what stats u currently have? hp/res?
farming at which act?
i already started all resist build yesterday also and spent few mils..
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Act 2 (more dying than farming)
HP 40k
Res 400-460
DPS 26k with pierce veil (this is too low)
3000 armor

I pieced those things together to prepare for Act 2. Turns out it was a dumb build and I wasted 1.5 mil on this.

HP needs to go down to 33k-ish, res should go up to 500 (can do this by just adding INT), and DPS must reach 32k with PV.

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 4 2012, 01:09 PM)
Act 2 (more dying than farming)
HP 40k
Res 400-460
DPS 26k with pierce veil (this is too low)
3000 armor

I pieced those things together to prepare for Act 2. Turns out it was a dumb build and I wasted 1.5 mil on this.

HP needs to go down to 33k-ish, res should go up to 500 (can do this by just adding INT), and DPS must reach 32k with PV.
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hey bro forget about the hp since ure gonna get one shot and ure gonna die. Use spirit vessels it prevents u from dying and pump full dps. Spirit walk is super crucial smile.gif
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QUOTE(kennysan @ Jun 4 2012, 01:14 PM)
hey bro forget about the hp since ure gonna get one shot and ure gonna die. Use spirit vessels it prevents u from dying and pump full dps. Spirit walk is super crucial smile.gif
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Not one shot la... sweat.gif Act 2 that build can tahan 5 melee hits or 2-3 huntress bombs.

But you are right, my DPS is too farking low rclxub.gif doh.gif
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My hp 26k only Lol... Seems like same with azures our stats biggrin.gif
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bro how to pump dps 32k up lol..
im too poor now ;(
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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Jun 4 2012, 01:54 PM)
bro how to pump dps 32k up lol..
im too poor now ;(
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take two INT + ASPD rings, your DPS suddenly shoots up a lot rclxub.gif
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Just tried 2.52 attack speed. Poison Dart machine gun. Mana regen can't keep up.

Am thinking of trying with Corpse Spiders or Toads later tonight. If you have the Fetish Sycophants, you'll have a little army pretty quick.
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 4 2012, 01:42 PM)
Not one shot la... sweat.gif Act 2 that build can tahan 5 melee hits or 2-3 huntress bombs.

But you are right, my DPS is too farking low rclxub.gif  doh.gif
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oh sorry lol i tot act 3 act 3 is total game change bro max ur dps and atk speed. Kite as much as u can lol thats all no need armor/survivability items at all trust me
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QUOTE(kennysan @ Jun 4 2012, 03:02 PM)
oh sorry lol i tot act 3 act 3 is total game change bro max ur dps and atk speed. Kite as much as u can lol thats all no need armor/survivability items at all trust me
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Is that viable? No need to be flex.gif and high hp,high dps and attack speed?
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Is that viable? No need to be  flex.gif and high hp,high dps and attack speed?
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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Jun 4 2012, 02:10 PM)
Just tried 2.52 attack speed. Poison Dart machine gun. Mana regen can't keep up.

Am thinking of trying with Corpse Spiders or Toads later tonight. If you have the Fetish Sycophants, you'll have a little army pretty quick.
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get your mana regen weapon (ceremonial knife) and voodoo

i have 3.10 attack speed and still having positive mana regen
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jun 4 2012, 09:35 PM)
get your mana regen weapon (ceremonial knife) and voodoo

i have 3.10 attack speed and still having positive mana regen
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3.1 is pretty a lot, are the bonus from ur weapon?
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weapon + 2 ring + amulet + bracer + helm

bracer = lacuni prowlers
helm = andariels visage
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jun 4 2012, 09:35 PM)
get your mana regen weapon (ceremonial knife) and voodoo

i have 3.10 attack speed and still having positive mana regen
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3.10 AS thats like a rail gun than a machine gun laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jun 4 2012, 11:05 PM)
weapon + 2 ring + amulet + bracer + helm

bracer = lacuni prowlers
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wow, those are pretty expensive if high int stacked rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cursed @ Jun 4 2012, 11:44 PM)
3.10 AS thats like a rail gun than a machine gun  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ Jun 5 2012, 12:19 AM)
wow, those are pretty expensive if high int stacked  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kennysan @ Jun 4 2012, 03:35 PM)
Its not viable at all. At act 3 when u have to signal the beacon mobs will be coming to u like mad wat u do is u can have spirit bears to help u clear the mobs with vision quest ( 4 or more skills need to be cd for mana regeneration) and also a passive skill call spirit vessel u will survive for that particular strike for once till it cooldown. I reckon go all on your dps/ atk speed with splinters
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yup agree with you sweat.gif

I realized (too late) that building tanky is a waste of money.
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in act 2, to kill belial ur dps must be around 30k
your weapon dmg should be also around 850-900, because previously i use 720+ dmg but 30k dps (due to speed), but i found my skill dmg unable to kill those salamander very well and in phase-2 my fetish army as well cant take down belial to 20% hp. (always 23-25%)

for the rest of stage rushing, never expect you can kill elites, except they walk slow and with certain safety affixes, + a cleared large area for u to kiting

if you really wan to hunt elites/champ, then i tell you the best place is either assasin vault or the map before khasim post, just lure them to another platform and u just shoot from a safe point where they cant hit you. (it's cheap! but it works)
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 5 2012, 10:01 AM)
yup agree with you sweat.gif

I realized (too late) that building tanky is a waste of money.
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is possible to solo. unless u wanna skip blues. n elites my dmg now is ard 35k with 20k hp. Always get a monk with u to tank. smile.gif nowadays alot dh very hard to find tanker btw is serclver having maintenance? cant wait to. go home n play lol
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anyone tried using shield with +13% att speed?
the question is, a mojo with 50-300 dmg VS a legendary shield with +13% att speed, which one will give higher dps?
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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ Jun 6 2012, 12:22 AM)
anyone tried using shield with +13% att speed?
the question is, a mojo with 50-300 dmg VS a legendary shield with +13% att speed, which one will give higher dps?
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no doubt mojo with 300++ dmg gives u btr dps. In inferno, i suggest you get the mojo rather than the shield cuz there is no need of survivability items when u reach ard act 3/4 bro smile.gif
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QUOTE(kennysan @ Jun 5 2012, 06:15 PM)
is possible to solo. unless u wanna skip blues. n elites my dmg now is ard 35k with 20k hp.  Always get a monk with u to tank. smile.gif  nowadays alot dh very hard to find tanker btw is serclver having maintenance? cant wait to. go home n play lol
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Wah you so lucky wub.gif nowadays damn hard to find inferno tank, i usually solo
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 6 2012, 09:32 AM)
Wah you so lucky wub.gif nowadays damn hard to find inferno tank, i usually solo
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yalor, out of 10 games, 7 games are DH & WZ only
the left 3 games, 2 are monks that cant tank
maybe out of 1 only you can find a barb/monk that can tank very well
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That's why after my exams, I'm starting a barb to tank for my gf. :thumbup.gif:

then play my WD when she's busy..
Hopefully Blizzard fixes the many issues soon (itemization, skill balances and such).
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QUOTE(shincy @ Jun 6 2012, 11:48 AM)
yalor, out of 10 games, 7 games are DH & WZ only
the left 3 games, 2 are monks that cant tank
maybe out of 1 only you can find a barb/monk that can tank very well
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Just wondering, is there any good spell combination for Witch Doctor?

I cant seem to do much damage even in normal mode. How to use Soul Harvest properly, by the way?
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Soul Harvest you basically have to stand in range with mobs to get the buff max up to 5 stack which will increase your damage to a pretty good amount

Usually WD used spirit walk into mob and use soul harvest and walk out

Low level WD don't expect any high damage skills at all. Probably the best is Acid Cloud and Splinter Darts at low level/diffuculties. Other than that, most skills are kinda utter rubbish
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I used spirit walk + soul harvest and sometime use with Big Bad Voodoo (Slam Dance) + zombies bear. can critical damage up to DPS 70k - 90k. but consume lot of mana.
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this guy probably has one of the best gear i've seen for Splinter dart build -> http://i.imgur.com/qsEcm.jpg
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anyone have problem surviving at inferno using Witch doctor?
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QUOTE(B@rt @ Jun 7 2012, 09:52 AM)
this guy probably has one of the best gear i've seen for Splinter dart build -> http://i.imgur.com/qsEcm.jpg
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his most valuable item is that weapon

worth billions. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(B@rt @ Jun 7 2012, 08:52 AM)
this guy probably has one of the best gear i've seen for Splinter dart build -> http://i.imgur.com/qsEcm.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/0koH5.jpg

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this guy probably has one of the best gear i've seen for Splinter dart build -> http://i.imgur.com/qsEcm.jpg
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dafuq did i just saw? shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif drool.gif notworthy.gif
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sweat.gif vit 330..so his hp only 14k++ only.
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jun 7 2012, 01:00 AM)
Soul Harvest you basically have to stand in range with mobs to get the buff max up to 5 stack which will increase your damage to a pretty good amount

Usually WD used spirit walk into mob and use soul harvest and walk out

Low level WD don't expect any high damage skills at all. Probably the best is Acid Cloud and Splinter Darts at low level/diffuculties. Other than that, most skills are kinda utter rubbish
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Eh I use Spirit Walk sparingly for mix of offensive/defensive purpose. Otherwise Spirit Walked into middle of mob only to discover there's Champion pack nearby and kena jailed/frozen/walled + arcaned/mortared or just plain mobbed to death.
Now I often do Unbreakable Grasp, then Soul Harvest + Zombie Bear. If things go bad, then Spirit Walked away tongue.gif

Anybody tried the pet build? Using lots of Armor and such?
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QUOTE(Kissan @ Jun 7 2012, 01:20 PM)
sweat.gif vit 330..so his hp only 14k++ only.
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Yup, plus minus.
He cleared Inferno Diablo already fyi.

He went the glass cannon build, which I think is viable since a lot of mobs 1 shot you in inferno (before patch).
His DPS is insane at 100k for a WD though. smile.gif
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post Jun 7 2012, 03:02 PM

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what i don't get is from the equipment and uber attack speed, how is he getting mana regen?

at 3.10 attack speed, without my voodoo and weapon to provide mana regen it's impossible to cast any other skills other than splinter darts

his attack speed is roughly 3.40 which is even more insane and there is no way for you to cast Spirit Walk also

His bracer is pretty insane though i prefer Lacuni Prowlers more
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post Jun 7 2012, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Jun 7 2012, 03:02 PM)
what i don't get is from the equipment and uber attack speed, how is he getting mana regen?

at 3.10 attack speed, without my voodoo and weapon to provide mana regen it's impossible to cast any other skills other than splinter darts

his attack speed is roughly 3.40 which is even more insane and there is no way for you to cast Spirit Walk also

His bracer is pretty insane though i prefer Lacuni Prowlers more
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This is his solo build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;bVW!aaZYca

I guess SA and Honored Guest is his only mana regen source.
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post Jun 7 2012, 08:48 PM

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hi witch doctor experts, need your input smile.gif

how much movespeed are you having?
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post Jun 7 2012, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 7 2012, 08:48 PM)
hi witch doctor experts, need your input smile.gif

how much movespeed are you having?
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12% ... +SW to run 9 streets away from elites. laugh.gif
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post Jun 8 2012, 06:16 PM

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My first inferno Belial kill biggrin.gif

Solo. With no help.
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post Jun 8 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 8 2012, 06:16 PM)
My first inferno Belial kill biggrin.gif

Solo. With no help.
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i done belial and butcher myself too but fail at azmodan and diablo lol
did azmodan in team and diablo not yet
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post Jun 8 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(OnGx2 @ Jun 8 2012, 09:02 PM)
i done belial and butcher myself too but fail at azmodan and diablo lol
did azmodan in team and diablo not yet
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did you go through bastion keep solo?

So hard sweat.gif cry.gif I wanna giv up
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witch doctor reporting in

wata l Waizen#2779
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post Jun 9 2012, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jun 8 2012, 09:31 PM)
did you go through bastion keep solo?

So hard sweat.gif  cry.gif I wanna giv up
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who is bastion?
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hi my new atck speed 2.92 + damage 30k ;(
icon_question.gif i need more damage LoL icon_question.gif
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Added on June 9, 2012, 6:15 pmfinally belial dead!!! damn im naked..

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