lol no, possession football without going anywhere is your idea of "possession football at its best"?
We need a big name manager. I may sound like I want instant success, but getting a manager like Martinez or Rodgers means we could lose players like Suarez.

AVB isn't that bad but he lost the dressing room to experienced players like Terry and Lampard. I can see the same happening here.
I'm a Rafa fan, and I think he would have done great things if he had 100m to spend when he was here, but I also saw him losing it in his final season and playing into ol Whiskeynose's mind games. Still, couldn't be worse than Rodgers and Martinez.

Guardiola would be a dream but then again we've only really seen him do great things with a great team.

has anyone remember that Capello said that he wants to manage EPL team before? i guess he's in FSG radar too..

Brendan, Martinez and AVB.. all good managers but not now.. in future maybe.

I remember when KD came back, it was H&G time. After all the trouble we have and Rafa left, H&G said they would like KD to say in another role that have longer shelf life than a manager. when things like this happen, relationship sours.

I do hope KD stay on as ambassador of the club like before. The 2nd return of the king did not end like the first time. Its been 20 years since he left LFC and 10 years since he last manage. the game have change so much.

If we didnt drop out of CL contention so early, the script would hv been different i suspect. I am not for KD coming back 2nd time but seeing a manager go is not nice. life goes on.

I think AVB need some time to get himself ready for the big stage like EPL. His short stint @ Porto been good but that is his only success story. If we do get him, we have to be mentally prepared for a period of rebuilding. His advantage is his age. He does come good, he got a whole 20-30 years in front of him.

Rafa would be nice. 52 and experience at highest level. EPL and CL. His weakness i see is his man management style. We have all read about how cold sometime he can be to the players. Rafa also have a history of clashing with club owner.

I would prefer Rafa over AVB.

This post has been edited by demio121: May 17 2012, 09:39 AM

the only thing why swansea not going anywhere is becoz they dont have the players & money..we have those two..well I juz gave the most logical manager that would grace our club..cant think any better manager that can take our club to higer level..capello??..moyes maybe??..seems far fetch to me

the owner will review for short term progression, it's not like not winning the league then just sack... they will review the whole season progress wether the money injected is worth or not.. roughly 50m injected and 50m from sale of el-nino but end up finishing 17pts outside top 4 , winning carling with 120th min played and runner up in fa will be questioned.. it's like "we pay you the player and you pay us the achievement" and dalglish certainly failed that,,
no the fault of the owner overall i guess

My fear of 'small' managers is that they have a small mentality like Woy....methinks AVB had the same.
Cautious conservative approach to the game.
Furhermore they will not be able to attract Big name players that easily.

For discussion sakes of smaller names, what of Di Matteo...only for discussion.

hmm....if Fergie or Wenger is replaced by individual A, and after 1 season, spent 100 millions, ended up in same league position as us + 1 cup final + carling cup...do you think A will be sacked?

Chelsea is a totally different animal. anyone there need to abide by Terry and Lampard rules. Given AVB age, i think he have a problem controlling the senior players. There is no guarantee that won't happen if he come to LFC.

i don't think Pep will come. He already said he is taking time off to unwind.

you see, its always exciting being a red. season just over a week and our summer action have already started.

This post has been edited by demio121: May 17 2012, 09:38 AM

The problem is he won't attract big name players. We might lose Suarez, in addition to Kuyt, Maxi...
Who can we buy to replace these players?

In the end it'll take another 5 years for us to even return to challenging for fourth spot. Even that is not guaranteed as we haven't seen Rodgers at the top level.

And the 1 year cycle will go on and on with FSG......sacking FSG

yup, thats my feeling too.




nope, its us fans (also).

as much as FSG set out a goal. come on, we all need a goal instead of being aimless right?



we are pretty divided this season with KD. sure, he has his mistakes, don't we all, rafa then too did, he admitted.
are we fans prepared to forgive?

The owners set the club to what their fans expectations & the ambitions of the club. there is no hiding behind we (the fans) are too partly in hand in what happens at the club

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 10:00 AM

You speak for yourself.

No TRUE fan IMO would call for the sacking of kenny who
happens to be the greatest Liverpool FC player/manager ever.

ONE seasong goal? And sacked?

The word 'sacked' should never be associated with Kenny.

ever wondered if the sentiments and responses to what is happening now be the same if the person in question is not KD and some other person instead?

First of all u dont say AVB is a small manager, he is a treble winner at PORTO so u cannot compare him with manager in the mid table that dont win big trophy. And not all small manager will play defensively like WOY, B.RODGERS play some very nice attacking football, same with DI MATTEO when he was at WEST BROM. Even small manager need a chance to prove themself, they could end up like REDKNAPP and PARDEW.

But to appoint new manager i think safest bet is someone that can take control of dressing room immediately, appoint manager with no big reputation takes time for the player to believe him and his tactics. Employ manager like CAPELLO, RAFA immediately gain respect in dressing room. I think RAFA will be a better choice, since there is still a lot LIVERPOOL fans that adore him. Ya he might be a bit cold in man management but as long as he can control the dressing room is should not be a problem. CAPELLO is a no nonsense guy, he chop anyone that cross his line, he surely have no problem control the dressing room.

i didnt not call AVB a small amanger because of his acheivements. But i said 'small mentality'.

Stepping from clubs like W Brom, swansea takes a lotta mental strength.
Forst of all, there are BIG egos at Big clubs. Thats a very big hurdle. Thats what brought AVB down
He tried to rid the olde players....they united and got rid.

i agree we need to take the bull by the horns. Capello and Rafa fit the bill.

BUT and very big BUT they need the owners to support them through this.
If the owners are bent on results in the TRNSITION, then it will be another year of Sacking

I would have asked KD to leave as well especially since he would have been too proud and dignified to want to be moved upstairs.

Modern times, modern expectations.
On the field, the team collectively failed to meet set targets. People have to be held accountable.

But then again, where is the stadium? IMHO it is about time FSG is pressured about the lack of progress off the field.

No one is bigger than Liverpool, I guess this statement is not true since some of you think KD is bigger than Liverpool itself. No disrespect to KD, I know his past achievement, I respect him as one of the greatest at Liverpool. But if we change KD with Rafa and achieve the same result, 90% of Liverpool fans will call for his sacking. Like I say, the only thing keeping KD axed instantly was his stature.

Now KD leaving is already a reality, the next part will be even harder, choosing the right manager and direction. I had my doubts on Robert Martinez, Paul Lambert and Brendan Rodgers after what we experienced with Woy. We had few options in Rafa, AVB, Frank Rijkaard, Capello as title winning manager. For now, we need to believe the owner will make the right decision.

Despite what happen, Kenny's still and will always be a Liverpool legend! His contributions to the club be it as a player or a manager will never ever be forgotten!
YNWA!

That statemnet does not stand alone.....theres still the Liverpool way.
Sacking Kenny is not the Liverpool way. It maybe Chelseas way BUT its not the Liverpool way.

Now begs the questions

a) Who to bring in?
b) How much will he/she get for transfers
c) What IS Suceess?
d) What if he doesnt succeed?
e) Is sacking your manager after 1 season the NEW Liverpool way?

i feel so sad....king kenny was d reason i became a liv fan.

yes, he had been given more than 150mil and he used it poorly with his signings but he revived liv during 2010/2011 season when liv was faltering and won a trophy tis season.

owners expect him to gel the new signings with the team in 1 season?
they shd hv at least give him a bit more time......but then nowadays the club is run as a business unit....unless you show profit.....otherwise you will be shown the door.

hail king kenny!!!