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post May 2 2012, 03:09 PM, updated 14y ago

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Mechanical Keyboard Club is currently on v6, let's spread more poison! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
Special Thanks and Credits To Moogle Stilzkin for Creating The Mechanical Keyboard Club.

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Information about Mechanical Keyboard Link:



  1. Geekhack Mechanical Keyboard Guide

  2. Geekhack All About Keycap

  3. Geekhack Mechanical Switch Reference

  4. Geekhack Cherry MX Switch Information

  5. Deskthority Wiki Main Page (Please use this if above link are down)


For Those that do not have Geekhack ID, Please use the Following ID and Pass to login to read. (Credits to Metallics)
Username = molto
Password = 12345
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Note :
going to do this plain and simple, anything you wanted to know just head over to the wiki. few users said it's better this way mainly because here will be more clean rather than whole butch of picture and text(Image attachment limitation is sad.)
If people insisted to read switch information on Lowyat, please head over to Mechanical Keyboard Thread v4

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: May 2 2012, 03:16 PM
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post May 2 2012, 03:11 PM

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List Lowyat mechanical keyboard users:(listed by name followed by what keyboard brand/model they have) Credits To Moogle Stiltzkin For Creating the List.
Note : Users that wanted to have their name and keyboard added to the list, please pm me.

ABS
  1. OCN_fssbzz - ABS M1 (black ALPS)
ACER
  1. Cyclonechuah - ACER 6311-HU (ALPS switch)
Cherry
  1. THEswordmaster - Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 Black (Cherry mx Red)
  2. OCN_fssbzz - Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 (Cherry mx Red)
  3. Squarebox - Cherry G80-3494 Lycus-2 (Cherry mx Red with White Rice's geekhack custom made doubleshot abs 108 key cap set installed )
  4. Squarebox - Cherry G80-3494 (Cherry Mx Red)
  5. Squarebox - Cherry G80-1950 (Cherry Mx Brown)
  6. Squarebox - Cherry G80-8113 (Cherry Mx Clear/white)
  7. Squarebox - Cherry G80-8113 (Cherry Mx Clear/white)
  8. Squarebox - Cherry G80-11900 (Cherry Mx Black)
  9. Squarebox - Cherry G80-11900 Custom Mod (Cherry Mx Brown, Blue, Black, Red)
  10. Moogle Stiltzkin - Cherry G80-1295 HAU NKRO (Cherry mx black, very rare vintage keyboard)
CM Storm
  1. eusioxn - CM Storm-Trigger Mechanical Keyboard
Das
  1. alvin8866 - Das Model S Ultimate
  2. OCN_fssbzz - DAS Model S Silent
  3. SSJBen - Das Model S Professional
  4. ganstream1 - Das Model S Professional
  5. kyrmian - Das Model S Ultimate Silent
Deck Legend
Ducky
  1. Moogle Stiltzkin - Ducky DK-9008 laser etched PBT keycaps (Cherry Mx brown)
  2. Moogle Stiltzkin - Ducky DK-9008 Tiger Limited Edition (Cherry mx Brown, with a Cherry mx Clear spacebar)
  3. Cyclonechuah - Ducky DK-9008 Black On Black silkscreen abs keycaps (Cherry MX Black)
  4. OCN_fssbzz - Ducky DK-1087 (Cherry Mx brown)
  5. OCN_fssbzz - Ducky DK-9008 Special Edition Mix (black,blue,brown Cherry mx switches)
  6. cusx - Ducky DK-9008 (Cherry Mx brown)
  7. micdy - Ducky DK-9008 PBT laser etched key caps (Mixed black, blue and brown Cherry Mx switches)
  8. Squarebox - Ducky DK-9008 abs black on black (Cherry Mx blue)
  9. Sky.Live - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx brown )
  10. Kepala Botak - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx brown With PBT Keycaps )
  11. Xcen - Ducky DK-9008 (Cherry MX Blue with ABS blank caps.)
  12. VampHexia - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx brown )
  13. ravewar - Ducky DK-1008L ( Cherry Mx brown )
  14. rockccf - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx blue )
  15. angelofro - Ducky DK-9008 Tiger Limited Edition (Cherry mx Black)
  16. skincladalien - Ducky DK-1008 ( Cherry Mx Brown )
  17. kaiserreich - Ducky DK-9008 ( Cherry Mx Brown with ABS Blanks )
  18. larnelle - Ducky DK-9000 ( Cherry Mx Brown )
  19. westley0214 - Ducky DK-1008 ( Cherry Mx brown )
  20. seichirosano - Ducky DK-9000 ( Cherry Mx brown )
  21. storm88 - Ducky DK-1008 R2 ( Cherry Mx blue )
  22. guess19 - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx blue )
  23. unohoo22 - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx brown )
  24. Hyde`fK - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx brown )
  25. EON - Ducky DK-9008 G2 ( Cherry Mx Brown )
  26. Mr.Lonely - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx brown )
  27. Vannus - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx red )
  28. heavyarm - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx brown )
  29. kyrmian - Ducky DK-9008 G2 ( Cherry Mx Red )
  30. JohnDiew0107 - Ducky DK-9008 G2 ( Cherry Mx Red )
  31. CwwKiT - Ducky DK-9008S Shine ( Cherry Mx ??? )
Filco
  1. alvin8866 - Filco Majestouch (Cherry Mx blue, with blank keys)
  2. Squarebox - Filco Majestouch "Otaku" (Cherry Mx Brown)
  3. Squarebox - Filco 2 Majestouch Tenkeyless (Cherry Mx Brown)
  4. willaw - Filco Zero (Fukkas switches)
  5. willaw - Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (Cherry Mx Brown)
  6. Evo Fantasy - Filco Majestouch non-nkro (Cherry MX Brown)
  7. lew999999 - Filco Majestouch NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
  8. zandara - Filco Majestouch NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
  9. BlueBerry~ - Filco Majestouch Linear R Limited Edition (Cherry MX Red)
  10. BlueBerry~ - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
  11. Slythape - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
  12. kEazYc - Filco Majestouch AI FKBN104M-AI Blue (Cherry MX Brown)
  13. Slythape - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
  14. paradis3lost - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
  15. Volvagia356 - Filco Majestouch Ninja (Cherry MX Brown)
  16. eichi-sama - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
  17. storm88 - Filco Majestouch NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
  18. kianweic - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
  19. halllo81 - Filco Majestouch 2 Camouflage Edition (Cherry MX Brown)
  20. SheepMekk - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Blue)
  21. 3010517 - Filco Majestouch Ninja ( Cherry MX Brown )
  22. 3010517 - Filco Majestouch 2 Camouflage Edition (Cherry MX Blue)
  23. avengers88 - Filco Majestouch 2 Camouflage Edition (Cherry MX Brown)
  24. Manticore - Filco Majestouch Linear R Limited Edition (Cherry MX Red)
  25. CyntrixTech - Filco Majestouch Ninja ( Cherry MX Brown )
  26. zellleonhart - Filco Majestouch 2 NKRO (Cherry MX Brown)
Gigabyte
  1. Ic3pRInc3sSsIcA - GK-K8000 (Cherry Mx black)
HHKB
  1. alvin8866 - Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 (HHKB)
  2. PeaceCraft1989 - Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 (HHKB)
  3. [Top-Gun] - HHKB
  4. kaysa - Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 (HHKB)
IBM
  1. willaw - IBM Model M (1988) (Buckling springs)
  2. Kaiserreich - IBM Model M 59G7980 'Lexmark' (1993) (Buckling spring)
  3. epiguru - IBM Model M Space Saving (1391472, 1991 84-key Bolt-modded) (Buckling springs)
  4. epiguru - IBM Model M (1391401, 1987 white label) (Buckling springs)
IONE (Sub brand XArmor)
  1. snipaboy - IONE Scorpius M10
  2. ooiwbng - XArmor XARMOR U9BL-s (Cherry MX Brown)
KBC
  1. JohnDiew0107 - KBC Poker Red Spade Mod (Cherry MX Red) Black Modded to Red
Leopold
  1. Cyclonechuah - Leopold FC200R Tenkeyless
  2. Cyclonechuah - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  3. zandara - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  4. Semisweet - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
  5. Semisweet - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown) not copy paste error
  6. jinhan108 - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  7. Sky.Live - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  8. xenodon - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
  9. xenodon - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  10. SkYY - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
  11. opalotion - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
  12. Squarebox - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  13. boonykun - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  14. skye - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
  15. angelofro - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  16. z3r0h - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  17. e1e7en - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
  18. jian5481 - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
  19. hitman66 - Leopold FC500RC/EB (Cherry MX Blue)
  20. RangerKarl - Leopold FC500RL/EB (Cherry MX Black)
  21. FlakCannon - Leopold FC500RC/EB (Cherry MX Blue)
  22. Heav3nCl0ud - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
  23. n3wb13 - Leopold FC500R/EB (Cherry MX Brown)
  24. lucidlts - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  25. yimingwureze - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  26. Raki - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  27. mikaelr - Leopold FC500RL/EB (Cherry MX Black)
  28. Szzz - Leopold FC500R/KB (Cherry MX Brown / Korean Layout)
  29. 3010517 - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  30. KilJim - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  31. Hoshiyuu - Leopold FC500RL/EB (Cherry MX Black)
  32. wilsongunawan - Leopold FC500RC/EB (Cherry MX Blue)
  33. kaysa - Leopold FC500RR/EB (Cherry MX Red)
  34. wairai - Leopold FC500RC/EB (Cherry MX Blue)
Noppoo
  1. lucidlts - Noppoo Choc Pro 2
  2. willaw - Noppoo Choc Mini (Cherry MX Blue)
  3. willaw - Noppoo Choc Mini (Cherry MX Brown)
  4. willaw - Noppoo Choc Mini (Cherry MX Black)
  5. Squarebox - Noppoo Choc Mini (Cherry MX Brown)
Mionix
  1. Squarebox - Mionix Zibal 60 (Cherry MX Black)
PLU
  1. lucidlts - PLU ML-G2000
  2. lucidlts - PLU ML-G3000 NKRO Edition (Cherry MX Brown)
  3. mikaelr - PLU ML-G2000 (Cherry MX Brown)
  4. low yat 82 - PLU ML-87
PLUM
  1. lucidlts - PLUM MX104M (Cherry MX Red)
Razer
  1. sai86 - Black Widow Expert (Cherry Mx blue)
  2. blacktrix - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  3. phantomash - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  4. raynmay - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  5. boiboi95 - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  6. BlueBerry~ - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue) Sold
  7. zandara - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  8. davidlian - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  9. axn992 - Black Widow Expert (Cherry Mx blue)
  10. Mr.Botz - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  11. j.sun - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  12. eichi-sama - Black Widow Expert (Cherry Mx blue)
  13. affirmative90 - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  14. soR - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
  15. ORGRZ`SLAY - Black Widow Ultimate (Cherry Mx blue)
Rosewill
  1. OCN_fssbzz - Rosewill RK9000
Steel Series
  1. BlueBerry~ - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  2. AlexLai - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
  3. N1ck - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  4. shawnlut - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
  5. victor2212 - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  6. warlove3 - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  7. aegis` - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  8. Calvin Seak - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
  9. jay - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  10. Cyclonechuah - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  11. StratOS - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  12. OCN_fssbzz - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
  13. lucidlts - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
  14. lucidlts - Steelseries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  15. Squarebox - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
  16. angelofro - Steelseries 6Gv2 Modded (Cherry Mx black + Brown + Clear + Red)
  17. rockccf - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
  18. FullMetalBoy - Steelseries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
  19. alexander_romanov - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  20. vincent5195 - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  21. kaysa - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  22. heavyarm - SteelSeries 7G (Cherry Mx black)
  23. soR - SteelSeries 6Gv2 (Cherry Mx black)
Topre
  1. kianweic - Topre Realforce 103U (Black)
  2. Cyclonechuah - Topre Realforce 103U (Black)
ThermalTake
  1. ORGRZ`SLAY - eSports MEKA G1 ( Cherry Mx Black )
Unicomp
  1. willaw - Unicomp SpaceSaver
ZOWIE
  1. BlueBerry~ - ZOWIE CELERITAS (Cherry MX Brown) Sold
  2. [s]andrewcsh - ZOWIE CELERITAS (Cherry MX Brown)


This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: May 19 2012, 05:03 AM
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post May 2 2012, 03:13 PM

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Mechanical Keyboard Distributor Information
Notice : Regarding about Leopold Tel Contact Number, i screwed up the contact number myself. i just reading the forum and noticed someone mention calling Leopold and only some random sabah women receive the phone call.
(i feel about to slap myself when i readed this post. doh.gif )

Ducky
Zeon Powertech Marketing Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6019-217 2618
Fax: +603-957 2269
Website : http://www.zeon.net.my
E-mail: info@zeon.net.my
Address:
1093 Sk 5 Jalan Kuyoh,
Seri Kembangan,
43300 Selangor Malaysia.

Filco
Inter-Asia Technology Sdn Bhd
Tel: 03-7880 4001 / 03-7880 4002
Fax: 03-7880 9811
Website : http://www.inter-asia.com.my/
E-mail: info@inter-asia.com.my
Address:
16, Jalan PJU 3/47
Sunway Damansara,
47810 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor.

Leopold
Leopold MY Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6016-530 2920
Fax: N/A
Website : http://www.leopold.com.my (under construction)
E-mail: info@leopold.com.my
Address:
153, Simpang Road,
34000 Taiping,
Perak.

Razer
Ban Leong Technologies Sdn Bhd
Tel: 03-7956 6300
Fax: N/A
Website : http://www.banleong.com.my
E-mail: support@banleong.com.my
Address:
Ban Leong Technologies Sdn Bhd
Lot 1.02, Level 3, Wisma Academy
Jalan 19/1, 46300 Petaling Jaya

Steelseries
PLAY Interactive Sdn Bhd
Tel: 03-7874 3877
Fax: 03-7874 5877
Website : http://www.playinteractive.com.my/
E-mail: josephine@playinteractive.com.my
Address:
No. 222, Block A3,
Leisure Commerce Square,
No.9, Jalan PJS 8/9,
46150 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.

Topre Realforce
Leopold MY Sdn Bhd
Tel: +6016-530 2920
Fax: N/A
Website : http://www.leopold.com.my (under construction)
E-mail: info@leopold.com.my
Address:
153, Simpang Road,
34000 Taiping,
Perak.
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For those of you register in the above "geekhack" forums.

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post May 2 2012, 04:30 PM

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any white mechanical keyboards out in the market??
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post May 2 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(jabba87 @ May 2 2012, 04:30 PM)
any white mechanical keyboards out in the market??
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Best white(mac white) is probably Leopold FC700R.
Attractive white keyboard is TT Meka G1 Combat white.
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post May 2 2012, 05:15 PM

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I might be a bit slow.. but FILCO is releasing regular MJ2 with red switches?

*not the linear R one

saw the product under in diatec website

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btw, congrats for V6

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post May 2 2012, 05:20 PM

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using razer bwu and 6gv2 add me up in the list =)
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post May 2 2012, 05:31 PM

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ducky 9008s user reporting in tongue.gif
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post May 2 2012, 05:32 PM

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Woot, V6 already. Anyway, when is Leopold FC700R really gonna come out?
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post May 2 2012, 05:39 PM

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gratz for V6 rclxms.gif
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post May 2 2012, 05:44 PM

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V6! Congrats!
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post May 2 2012, 05:48 PM

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I joined this topic since V1.
Now V6 already, this community is growing fast.
Congrats!
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post May 2 2012, 06:36 PM

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Boss! Put me in the list of HKKB Pro 2 please!
And Leopold 500R red switch too.

Thank You. and your signature....
those 2 if they don't want the novelty keycaps, let me know!

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gratz on V6. rclxms.gif
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post May 2 2012, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(rockccf @ May 2 2012, 05:48 PM)
I joined this topic since V1.
Now V6 already, this community is growing fast.
Congrats!
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I joined this club pre-v1 actually, when someone start a thread in bulk section wanting to bulk buy HHKB Pro2 and my first reaction on the price is pokerface.jpg, which then i start googling. Not long after that, moogle created the v1 and i started taking poison.

I only being mechanified when Razer BWU reach Malaysia. B4 that it is a era which mech kb close to not existing in Malaysia.
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post May 2 2012, 07:53 PM

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Add my name to Filco Majetouch 2 brown biggrin.gif
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Add me pl0x on Leopold FC500R Blue Switch lol

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post May 2 2012, 08:43 PM

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No one here is using CM storm Trigger mechanical keyboard?
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omggg, please wait, i'm updating the list in next few hour, currently setting up rig for few friend.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: May 2 2012, 08:55 PM
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post May 2 2012, 10:30 PM

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great, we reached V6 already smile.gif
btw,

@Cyclone
u still have any RF with u? might be getting 1 from u after few months from now tongue.gif
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post May 2 2012, 10:43 PM

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great, we reached V6 already smile.gif
btw,

@Cyclone
u still have any RF with u? might be getting 1 from u after few months from now tongue.gif
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You kena topre Poison also ah~! brows.gif
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post May 2 2012, 10:55 PM

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lol my name not in ducky list, me is shiny ducky white
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post May 2 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 2 2012, 10:43 PM)
You kena topre  Poison also ah~! brows.gif
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not totally la, just adding 1 to my collection only tongue.gif
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not totally la, just adding 1 to my collection only tongue.gif
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Collection huh? You will need no other keyboard after you get a topre switch, that's how I feel now sweat.gif

I m selling off my other keyboards, and if I successfully sell all, I will be getting a Realforce full size hmm.gif

which one you planing to get ? icon_idea.gif brows.gif
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post May 2 2012, 11:09 PM

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Hmm, does anyone have any spare nice keycaps to sell?
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Hmm, does anyone have any spare nice keycaps to sell?
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You want full set or single? 104 or 87 ?
PBT or ABS? printed or blank?
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 2 2012, 11:11 PM)
You want full set or single? 104 or 87 ?
PBT or ABS? printed or blank?
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Definitely 87.
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post May 2 2012, 11:24 PM

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erm... my 87 PBT are used... I have a set of 104 blank Black ABS come together with the red switch Leopold I got from Cyclone.... and I got a set of rainbow PBT completely suit steelseries 7G, I wonder if you are interested in them.....

Did you try Taobao?
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 2 2012, 11:04 PM)
Collection huh? You will need no other keyboard after you get a topre switch, that's how I feel now sweat.gif

I m selling off my other keyboards, and if I successfully sell all, I will be getting a Realforce full size hmm.gif

which one you planing to get ? icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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bro, you're the 2nd people that i saw first get into mech with cherry mx switches, then test almost all of them, and lastly tried ONE Realforce and the end result?
Sell off all cherry mx switches and on the way to get another RF.....

the first one that i saw is bro KianWei if not mistaken, RF really that nice? shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 2 2012, 11:04 PM)
Collection huh? You will need no other keyboard after you get a topre switch, that's how I feel now sweat.gif

I m selling off my other keyboards, and if I successfully sell all, I will be getting a Realforce full size hmm.gif

which one you planing to get ? icon_idea.gif  brows.gif
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bro, you're the 2nd people that i saw first get into mech with cherry mx switches, then test almost all of them, and lastly tried ONE Realforce and the end result?
Sell off all cherry mx switches and on the way to get another RF.....

the first one that i saw is bro KianWei if not mistaken, RF really that nice?  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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BTW, I not almost test them all, I really tested them all, cherry MX that can be get anyway.
Those rare Green switch, yellow switch, white switch, orange switch, and such I never tried.

For Topre Switch, Try it and you will know. brows.gif
It doesn't necessary meant that Topre switch is the best of all,
but it suit me the best and also it is completely different from other,
so I found it hard to coup with other switches, when I switching around different keyboards,
that will make me felt awkward for some time before I get used to it.
Maybe some people are able to switching between different switches easily, but not me.

So I decide to keep only my HHKB for general typing, chatting and uses,
and the Leopold Red switch, for my Diablo 3 game, Diablo 3 keycaps and other keycaps modding. thumbup.gif

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since i've seen a lot giving so much compliment on RF, might as well i get 1 and try it for myself.
well, im ok if someone is willing to borrow me his RF for few days for trying tongue.gif
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since i've seen a lot giving so much compliment on RF, might as well i get 1 and try it for myself.
well, im ok if someone is willing to borrow me his RF for few days for trying tongue.gif
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No one here is using CM storm Trigger mechanical keyboard?
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 2 2012, 11:47 PM)
BTW, I not almost test them all, I really tested them all, cherry MX that can be get anyway.
Those rare Green switch, yellow switch, white switch, orange switch, and such I never tried.

For Topre Switch, Try it and you will know.  brows.gif
It doesn't necessary meant that Topre switch is the best of all,
but it suit me the best and also it is completely different from other,
so I found it hard to coup with other switches, when I switching around different keyboards,
that will make me felt awkward for some time before I get used to it.
Maybe some people are able to switching between different switches easily, but not me.

So I decide to keep only my HHKB for general typing, chatting and uses,
and the Leopold Red switch, for my Diablo 3 game, Diablo 3 keycaps and other keycaps modding. thumbup.gif
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if i got the cash and chance... i think i will try 'em RF.... but one thing i can say, not now though.... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Elitekeyboards.com shipping charges still cost a pretty penny if you want to order full sets :S Have my eye on the yellow and baby blue printed keycap sets but man, 800 bucks inclusive of shipping is too much >.<
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Elitekeyboards.com shipping charges still cost a pretty penny if you want to order full sets :S Have my eye on the yellow and baby blue printed keycap sets but man, 800 bucks inclusive of shipping is too much >.<
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without shipment also quite costly right?
if you want them to ship the thing nicely, I think that's what it cost......
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 3 2012, 12:21 AM)
Someone here once posted the picture of his trigger. He get it from SG IIRC.
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Blank keycaps for Cherry G80-3800?

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ May 3 2012, 01:31 PM)
Blank keycaps for Cherry G80-3800?

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no love for this, i'd rather get myself a G80-3000/3494 whistling.gif
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Just got the GeekHack keycap from poslaju.

thanks Kai.

Anyhow... I've been wondering the height of the key cap, I suppose they made it R4 height.. but how come it seems like R3 height geh... (compared with 9008G2's and Poker's

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Just got the GeekHack keycap from poslaju.

thanks Kai.

Anyhow... I've been wondering the height of the key cap, I suppose they made it R4 height.. but how come it seems like R3 height geh... (compared with 9008G2's and Poker's
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Signature plastics has their own keycap height spec.
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 3 2012, 04:26 PM)
Signature plastics has their own keycap height spec.
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since this is my first SP key cap and somehow, I understand ripster's GLWIC
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Signature plastics has their own keycap height spec.
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This also made me wonder how will they compared to Cherry's height?


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no love for this, i'd rather get myself a G80-3000/3494  whistling.gif
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Try 3496? Red switch and NKRO for only 600rmb.


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Blank keycaps for Cherry G80-3800?

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May be just a early marketing prototype. Also I rather stuff on normal DCS profile keys onto the board, it felt much better.
The only incompatible key is the caps lock, which I am waiting for BenQ's K890 caps lock for sale separately....

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ May 3 2012, 02:31 PM)
Blank keycaps for Cherry G80-3800?

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i'm ordering 10 units trial on G80-3800 browns, with my very custom made ABS keycap, designed for G80-3800.

anyone interested?
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i'm ordering 10 units trial on G80-3800 browns, with my very custom made ABS keycap, designed for G80-3800.

anyone interested?
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Show your custom caps
Must be from your 3D printer?
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Show your custom caps
Must be from your 3D printer?
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i've just designed the caps.
since the keyboard haven't arrive, i havent produce the caps yet.

Yea, it will be from my 3d Printer

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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 3 2012, 09:43 PM)
i've just designed the caps.
since the keyboard haven't arrive, i havent produce the caps yet.

Yea, it will be from my 3d Printer
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wow, going for manufacturing brows.gif
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So, it is possible to make keycaps using 3D printers.
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Would be nice to reproduce the Realforce spacebar in PBT (instead of ABS) with a 3D printer. Choice of colour will be a welcome bonus.
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QUOTE(mechanicalKB @ May 3 2012, 08:59 PM)
Thank you to bai1101 for finally delivering the keyboard bumbungs:

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Great there fit.

Kind worry abt the HHKB here since is no have sample of them O.o
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 3 2012, 11:19 PM)
Great there fit.

Kind worry abt the HHKB here since is no have sample of them O.o
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i'm ordering 10 units trial on G80-3800 browns, with my very custom made ABS keycap, designed for G80-3800.

anyone interested?
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No MX black?
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This thing finally shipped from Taiwan. (KBT Race)
Gonna start a thread soon for that, if you know what i mean.

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 4 2012, 12:15 AM)
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This thing finally shipped from Taiwan.
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the race?
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This thing finally shipped from Taiwan.
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I thought Race had being available for a long time already? Ins't Pure is the rare deal?
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the race?
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 4 2012, 12:19 AM)
I thought Race had being available for a long time already? Ins't Pure is the rare deal?
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Pure. I think still need to wait a while.
Race has been available for a long time, but not locally available.

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 4 2012, 12:25 AM)
Yes
Pure. I think still need to wait a while.
Race has been available for a long time, but not locally available.
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locally available?... oh no.. don't tell me...

my wallet will kena double KO by gf and mech kb

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Yes
Pure. I think still need to wait a while.
Race has been available for a long time, but not locally available.
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Got the white version?
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 2 2012, 10:30 PM)
great, we reached V6 already smile.gif
btw,

@Cyclone
u still have any RF with u? might be getting 1 from u after few months from now tongue.gif
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 3 2012, 11:17 PM)
Would be nice to reproduce the Realforce spacebar in PBT (instead of ABS) with a 3D printer. Choice of colour will be a welcome bonus.
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my 3d printer cannot do PBT yet.
but my next investment with a newer design machine, might able to do it. (that one would cost >RM15K per machine...)


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Yes
Pure. I think still need to wait a while.
Race has been available for a long time, but not locally available.
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Yea, how was the Pure going? production delay like Ducky ke? hmm.gif


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So, it is possible to make keycaps using 3D printers.
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yes, it's possible. base on the trial run from a friend who stay at UK,
the printed keycap can be use, but need to do quite some touch up work.

Don't think keycap seller would follow the "wind" to use 3d printer to produce keycaps

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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 4 2012, 08:40 AM)
my 3d printer cannot do PBT yet.
but my next investment with a newer design machine, might able to do it. (that one would cost >RM15K per machine...)
@storm88 - If you have the equipment and are willing to do a little R&D, this PBT Realforce space bar idea could be a real hit. I know there are some challenges to overcome so that the space bar doesn't warp but it's definitely possible.
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This thing finally shipped from Taiwan. (KBT Race)
Gonna start a thread soon for that, if you know what i mean.
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is this the imav bulk or are you doing a seperate one??

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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 4 2012, 01:12 PM)
@storm88 - If you have the equipment and are willing to do a little R&D, this PBT Realforce space bar idea could be a real hit. I know there are some challenges to overcome so that the space bar doesn't warp but it's definitely possible.
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3dprinters can't print material which melts at higher point like PBT.

most printed plastic won't warp la
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is this the imav bulk or are you doing a seperate one??
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I will be handling the sales of KBT Race keyboards locally.

QUOTE(storm88 @ May 4 2012, 01:20 PM)
3dprinters can't print material which melts at higher point like PBT.

most printed plastic won't warp la
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I will be handling the sales of KBT Race keyboards locally.
Got sample pictures?
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Only green LED for the race you bringing in?
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Got sample pictures?
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Ice and Ruby Keycaps.......y u no release faster?

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ May 4 2012, 07:55 PM)
Ice and Ruby Keycaps.......y u no release faster?

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this 1 i got minat thumbup.gif
acrylic case + this = ice-kb
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DIY Acrylic casing.
http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-49866-1-1.html


Added on May 4, 2012, 9:58 pmGhetto Filco gone in market. Really improved(the soldering and PCB) from the previous engineering samples.
http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-49918-1-1.html

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 4 2012, 09:55 PM)
DIY Acrylic casing.
http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-49866-1-1.html


Added on May 4, 2012, 9:58 pmGhetto Filco gone in market. Really improved(the soldering and PCB) from the previous engineering samples.
http://www.waishehome.cn/thread-49918-1-1.html
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if it's 300~400 RMB, might as well i get a PLU87 which is USB NKRO sad.gif

found a cheap 7G-ish (without the bigass handrest) keyboard,
http://www.armygroup.com.tw/shop/goods-6446.html

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This came in finally.
JinHan, do PM me your details.

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Ragnarok red on black?

I was too late for that. sad.gif
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Very nice, Kaiser. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 3 2012, 05:10 PM)
This also made me wonder how will they compared to Cherry's height?


Added on May 3, 2012, 5:12 pm
Try 3496? Red switch and NKRO for only 600rmb.


Added on May 3, 2012, 5:18 pm
May be just a early marketing prototype. Also I rather stuff on normal DCS profile keys onto the board, it felt much better.
The only incompatible key is the caps lock, which I am waiting for BenQ's K890 caps lock for sale separately....
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the 3496 is made for KBC right? what's the difference between 3494 and 3496? one is made in Germany/Czech and the other in China?
both are NKRO right? hmm.gif

QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 4 2012, 08:01 PM)
this 1 i got minat  thumbup.gif
acrylic case + this = ice-kb
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me also interested drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 5 2012, 11:49 AM)
This came in finally.
JinHan, do PM me your details.

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not too poisonous to me, but that's a very nice one, what switch is that one?


Added on May 5, 2012, 3:53 pmAlright! Since I have sold my Filco Blue Switch, I m now putting my Steelseries on sale,
if any one are interested please do not hesitate to ask,
if got friend are interested also can introduce them to see.....
and I put together the PBT keycaps on sale too, in the same tread,
If any one are buying the keycaps alone, they are welcome,
but if who want to buy the keyboard before the keycaps are sold,
they have to buy the keycaps together with it. those are the term.
if you guys think the price are not too good, can suggest also.
anyway, hope I can sell it off, so I can get a ..... you know what.

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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 5 2012, 01:33 AM)
if it's 300~400 RMB, might as well i get a PLU87 which is USB NKRO sad.gif

found a cheap 7G-ish (without the bigass handrest) keyboard,
http://www.armygroup.com.tw/shop/goods-6446.html
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I thought USB nkro version of plu87 is pricier. Also I don't see a reason that 21kro isn't enough, lol...

That isn't ss7g, that is a board by costar, its other clone brothers are tt meka g1, wasd keyboard and even the backlit mionix zibal 60.


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the 3496 is made for KBC right? what's the difference between 3494 and 3496? one is made in Germany/Czech and the other in China?
both are NKRO right?  hmm.gif
me also interested  drool.gif  drool.gif
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nope, both from Czech. Just that 3496 is having nkro for all switches variants, unlike 3000. The exterior different is lack of cherry logo printing on the case.

Yar, 3494 also nkro, but much pricier.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 5 2012, 04:26 PM)
I thought USB nkro version of plu87 is pricier. Also I don't see a reason that 21kro isn't enough, lol...

That isn't ss7g, that is a board by costar, its other clone brothers are tt meka g1, wasd keyboard and even the backlit mionix zibal 60.


Added on May 5, 2012, 4:28 pm
nope, both from Czech. Just that 3496 is having nkro for all switches variants, unlike 3000. The exterior different is lack of cherry logo printing on the case.

Yar, 3494 also nkro, but much pricier.
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oh, then the 3496 is a better bargain? thumbup.gif
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The bumbung arrived today.

The bird electron roof could fit onto the Poker easily, but seems like this one is a tad oversized.
But anyhoo, the roof from bai was very cheap, and it's good enough for me.

Have not tried it on the HHKB yet.
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 6 2012, 12:05 PM)
The bumbung arrived today.

The bird electron roof could fit onto the Poker easily, but seems like this one is a tad oversized.
But anyhoo, the roof from bai was very cheap, and it's good enough for me.

Have not tried it on the HHKB yet.
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ok.... now I start to wonder does it fit my HHKB nicely... I think HHKB are slightly bigger, is it?
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cnc for wood? I believe I once watch a documentary about a taiwan guy who made stuffs with bamboo and he is using cnc despite he is an aged guy.

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Hello, I just happened came across this club. I am using Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro, does any1 know what kind of key it uses? Have another similar keyboard from microsoft, also from the same era(or older).


Added on May 6, 2012, 1:31 pmBy the way, my keyboard is the one in the picture to the right of the page

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Probably a rubber dome board.
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I think I found it..... was mentioned that they use "membrane"
So it's neither I guess? lol

EDIT: after going through the design etc. I think it's a modified style of rubber dome. Finally got an answer after wondering for so many years lol.
EDIT2: seems like it's similar to topre switch

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Maybe I'm a bit harsh but I think he should have used a more refined finish for the wood for the case in the photos. To put it another way, this work is a great idea but it's not the same as an Eric Barney.
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QUOTE(scaler @ May 6 2012, 01:59 PM)
I think I found it..... was mentioned that they use "membrane"
So it's neither I guess? lol

EDIT: after going through the design etc. I think it's a modified style of rubber dome. Finally got an answer after wondering for so many years lol.
EDIT2: seems like it's similar to topre switch
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In fact they're all the same, the typical rubber dome

microsoft dont have any keyboard that uses topre switch..
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QUOTE(scaler @ May 6 2012, 01:59 PM)
I think I found it..... was mentioned that they use "membrane"
So it's neither I guess? lol

EDIT: after going through the design etc. I think it's a modified style of rubber dome. Finally got an answer after wondering for so many years lol.
EDIT2: seems like it's similar to topre switch
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you might want to refer to the 1st page for some info related to Topre capacitive switches. smile.gif
AFAIK Microsoft doesn't produce keyboards with capacitive switches like the ones on HHKB and Realforce
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 6 2012, 02:31 PM)
Maybe I'm a bit harsh but I think he should have used a more refined finish for the wood for the case in the photos. To put it another way, this work is a great idea but it's not the same as an Eric Barney.
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Probably a proof of concept on cheaper wood before moving on to more expensive wood.

Are wood supposed to be more expensive than Metal?
I'd pay 160Euros for a metal case, but for wood, I'm not gonna.
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 6 2012, 03:36 PM)
Probably a proof of concept on cheaper wood before moving on to more expensive wood.

Are wood supposed to be more expensive than Metal?
I'd pay 160Euros for a metal case, but for wood, I'm not gonna.
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not to mention we're surrounded by n tiny drops of moisture which will kill the wood if not taken care properly sad.gif
on btw, anyone bought the acrylic case from the previous post?
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QUOTE(scaler @ May 6 2012, 01:59 PM)
I think I found it..... was mentioned that they use "membrane"
So it's neither I guess? lol

EDIT: after going through the design etc. I think it's a modified style of rubber dome. Finally got an answer after wondering for so many years lol.
EDIT2: seems like it's similar to topre switch
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rubber dome is also called membrane sometime.
Membrane keyboards may have either design, a whole piece membrane or individual membrane cups.
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 6 2012, 03:40 PM)
not to mention we're surrounded by n tiny drops of moisture which will kill the wood if not taken care properly sad.gif
on btw, anyone bought the acrylic case from the previous post?
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Need to choose the correct type of tropical wood.
My Grandma's Jati (teak) made cupboard is still holding even though it is already more than 50 years old.


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rubber dome is also called membrane sometime.
Membrane keyboards may have either design, a whole piece membrane or individual membrane cups.


Rubber Dome != Membrane

Model M has a membrane sheet, but it does not have domes
Topre has Rubber domes, but no membrane sheet.

See the diff?

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Need to choose the correct type of tropical wood.
My Grandma's Jati (teak) made cupboard is still holding even though it is already more than 50 years old.
Rubber Dome != Membrane

Model M has a membrane sheet, but it does not have domes
Topre has Rubber domes, but no membrane sheet.

See the diff?
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I know the membrane part of rd, IBM part.

but what I clarify here is that rubber dome is also called rubber membrane,薄膜.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 6 2012, 04:40 PM)
I know the membrane part of rd, IBM part.

but what I clarify here is that rubber dome is also called rubber membrane,薄膜.
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don't forget the scissor switches, they're rubber dome as well tongue.gif
now this reminds me of something, previously i saw some article of cherry MY switches where he/she claimed that MY are hybrid of mechanical and rubber dome?
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QUOTE(scaler @ May 6 2012, 01:59 PM)
I think I found it..... was mentioned that they use "membrane"
So it's neither I guess? lol

EDIT: after going through the design etc. I think it's a modified style of rubber dome. Finally got an answer after wondering for so many years lol.
EDIT2: seems like it's similar to topre switch
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LOL,Microsoft Natural Keyboard : something similar to Topre Switch......? shakehead.gif
Ignorance is a sin, this line doesn't feel so right before I heard that line.


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Need to choose the correct type of tropical wood.
My Grandma's Jati (teak) made cupboard is still holding even though it is already more than 50 years old.
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For wood, the best wood from Malaysia Peninsular is Chenggal, if from Borneo is Belian,
they both are so tough that can sink into water immediately, once you drop it into water,
for Chenggal the fiber are very fine and dense, its color is yellow, and will change to deep red or even dark brown if exposed to sun,
and they won't rot in water even if soak in water for decades, thus Chenggal is made into boats, and ship, and harbors.
Chenggal is unique to Peninsular not found in Borneo, and Belian is not found in Peninsular Malaysia, but unique to Borneo,
for Belian, there is very rare now they forbid export from Borneo state even to West Malaysia is prohibited.
its yellow and will be turning to deep red or dark brown like Chenggal too, its fiber is dense and fine like Chenggal too,
Those are the best wood of Malaysia, or should I say best wood of tropical, even termite(white ant) do not eat them.

Teak are good to make into furniture due to it's form are unchange in condition,
it will not shrink, bent or crack even made into very thin boards, and its wooden texture are very nice to see.
but not very hard and do not have very good resistance to water.

I myself have some furniture made of Belian, Chenggal and Teak too, if there is chance, I will upload the photos of them...

If it is mention that the exotic wood, I think those 3 can be counted as exotic wood from Tropical.
they might not be so famous since tropical country do not have fine craftsmen to made them into fine furniture
like those exotic woods from China or India or Africa.

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 6 2012, 05:15 PM)
LOL,Microsoft Natural Keyboard : something similar to Topre Switch......? shakehead.gif
Ignorance is a sin, this line doesn't feel so right before I heard that line.


Added on May 6, 2012, 5:33 pm

For wood, the best wood from Malaysia Peninsular is Chenggal, if from Borneo is Belian,
they both are so tough that can sink into water immediately, once you drop it into water,
for Chenggal the fiber are very fine and dense, its color is yellow, and will change to deep red or even dark brown if exposed to sun,
and they won't rot in water even if soak in water for decades, thus Chenggal is made into boats, and ship, and harbors.
Chenggal is unique to Peninsular not found in Borneo, and Belian is not found in Peninsular Malaysia, but unique to Borneo,
for Belian, there is very rare now they forbid export from Borneo state even to West Malaysia is prohibited.
its yellow and will be turning to deep red or dark brown like Chenggal too, its fiber is dense and fine like Chenggal too,
Those are the best wood of Malaysia, or should I say best wood of tropical, even termite(white ant) do not eat them.

Teak are good to make into furniture due to it's form are unchange in condition,
it will not shrink, bent or crack even made into very thin boards, and its wooden texture are very nice to see.
but not very hard and do not have very good resistance to water.

I myself have some furniture made of Belian, Chenggal and Teak too, if there is chance, I will upload the photos of them...

If it is mention that the exotic wood, I think those 3 can be counted as exotic wood from Tropical.
they might not be so famous since tropical country do not have fine craftsmen to made them into fine furniture
like those exotic woods from China or India or Africa.
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wow... that's quite a crash course for peninsular exotic wood
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wow... that's quite a crash course for peninsular exotic wood
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Just some basics.
for these kind of things, You need to touch the real thing feel them,
even work with them to know the real deal.

My grand father is a carpenter, My father learn alot from him,
and he made some of our own furniture, so I learn some from him.

and I made my own arm rest for my HHKB. although it look extremely bad and cheap looking @@
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 6 2012, 05:15 PM)
LOL,Microsoft Natural Keyboard : something similar to Topre Switch......? shakehead.gif
Ignorance is a sin, this line doesn't feel so right before I heard that line.
Actually I went around looking abit more after that.... the information at the v4 topic is not helpful for my keyboard. The information @ v4 is more suited to be said as switches that are available in the market rather than the type of switch manufacturing technique used. After looking around for almost an hour, I found this which gives me the most helpful information. My keyboard is using linear switch with with membrane contact mechanism (tho it's a 1 layer membrane in contact with a PCB if I remember correctly). I mentioned similar because both use membranes and spring, I didn't say it is using topre.

QUOTE(kaysa @ May 6 2012, 05:15 PM)
Ignorance is a sin, this line doesn't feel so right before I heard that line.
This line could offend people when used inappropriately which is true in my case. I wanted to learn and given the incomplete information, that's the best deduction I could do at the time. Have you even looked inside the Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro before posting?

Heck I'm not coming back after this treatment for trying to learn. At least my inferior keyboard has proven its worth by being in use for over 10 years.


Added on May 6, 2012, 9:02 pm@kaiserreich & Human10 thanks for the info.
@JohnDiew0107 as I said similar.
Btw I don't think my switch for each key can be removed individually.

EDIT: at least not with the tools I have or with the risk of losing my keyboard.

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Just some basics.
for these kind of things, You need to touch the real thing feel them,
even work with them to know the real deal.

My grand father is a carpenter, My father learn alot from him,
and he made some of our own furniture, so I learn some from him.

and I made my own arm rest for my HHKB. although it look extremely bad and cheap looking @@
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O.O.... now i learnt something on woods.... thanks for the info.... notworthy.gif
QUOTE(scaler @ May 6 2012, 08:58 PM)
Actually I went around looking abit more after that.... the information at the v4 topic is not helpful for my keyboard. The information @ v4 is more suited to be said as switches that are available in the market rather than the type of switch manufacturing technique used. After looking around for almost an hour, I found this which gives me the most helpful information. My keyboard is using linear switch with with membrane contact mechanism (tho it's a 1 layer membrane in contact with a PCB if I remember correctly). I mentioned similar because both use membranes and spring, I didn't say it is using topre.
This line could offend people when used inappropriately which is true in my case. I wanted to learn and given the incomplete information, that's the best deduction I could do at the time. Have you even looked inside the Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro before posting?

Heck I'm not coming back after this treatment for trying to learn. At least my inferior keyboard has proven its worth by being in use for over 10 years.


Added on May 6, 2012, 9:02 pm@kaiserreich & Human10 thanks for the info.
@JohnDiew0107 as I said similar.
Btw I don't think my switch for each key can be removed individually.

EDIT: at least not with the tools I have or with the risk of losing my keyboard.
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@scaler, i think kaysa is so "excited" because he just got a HHKB which uses topre switch and you told him that you think your membrane keyboard is a topre board sweat.gif
well, i think if im in your shoes, with that amount of knowledge, i would conclude the same too.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(scaler @ May 6 2012, 08:58 PM)
Actually I went around looking abit more after that.... the information at the v4 topic is not helpful for my keyboard. The information @ v4 is more suited to be said as switches that are available in the market rather than the type of switch manufacturing technique used. After looking around for almost an hour, I found this which gives me the most helpful information. My keyboard is using linear switch with with membrane contact mechanism (tho it's a 1 layer membrane in contact with a PCB if I remember correctly). I mentioned similar because both use membranes and spring, I didn't say it is using topre.
This line could offend people when used inappropriately which is true in my case. I wanted to learn and given the incomplete information, that's the best deduction I could do at the time. Have you even looked inside the Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro before posting?

Heck I'm not coming back after this treatment for trying to learn. At least my inferior keyboard has proven its worth by being in use for over 10 years.


Added on May 6, 2012, 9:02 pm@kaiserreich & Human10 thanks for the info.
@JohnDiew0107 as I said similar.
Btw I don't think my switch for each key can be removed individually.
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chill bro, sorry if any of us offended you.

Indeed the information you searched from the deskthority wiki is more informative than what we have here.

I'm rather interested to know when you stated that your Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro uses membranes and spring. Got pictar?

Because we're in doubt that keyboard has spring under the rubber dome.
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similar != same
In this sense similar materials used rather than the design as a whole.

@rurushu I couldn't open the required area, only can see slightly from the side. Microsoft seems unwilling to have their toys taken apart. So I can't risk it... I only cleaned with moist cloth and blow in with my air pump during cleaning.

@JohnDiew0107 the spring not under the dome, that's for sure. But I can't remember the exact set up either, I only opened it once and that's more than half a year ago.

It uses quite a few of what seem to be flex cables (similar to those used in flip phones etc), and I can be quite clumsy at times lol. That's why don't want to risk it.

P.S came back out of boredom....
P.P.S I was worried that people might misunderstand me so I included "similar" but.....

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QUOTE(scaler @ May 6 2012, 10:04 PM)
similar != same
In this sense similar materials used rather than the design as a whole.

@rurushu I couldn't open the required area, only can see slightly from the side. Microsoft seems unwilling to have their toys taken apart. So I can't risk it... I only cleaned with moist cloth and blow in with my air pump during cleaning.

@JohnDiew0107 the spring not under the dome, that's for sure. But I can't remember the exact set up either, I only opened it once and that's more than half a year ago.

It uses quite a few of what seem to be flex cables (similar to those used in flip phones etc), and I can be quite clumsy at times lol. That's why don't want to risk it.

P.S came back out of boredom....
P.P.S I was worried that people might misunderstand me so I included "similar" but.....
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from your statement shows that you're a programmer. lol
anyways, taking it apart won't be too troublesome as long as you remember where things are suppose to be in the first place. else, photos. xD
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@kaysa - That is some knowledge of wood!
@Kaiser - I think teak is going to be too damn hard to make a keyboard case. But if anybody does a nice one, I'll buy it for 160 Euros or more in a sec. I seem to prefer heavy keyboards, like the IBMs (~2.5 kg or more) - they have a more solid feel. I liked the Montereys on the SIIG Minitouch but the whole thing was light like a feather. When I started typing/pounding on it, the case would wobble, and then I have thoughts about Made in USA vs Taiwan... Haven't owned an aluminium keyboard yet, but I guess it would have a more solid feel than plastic (I mean modern day plastic, not vintage IBM plastic). I like the idea of touching the wood - feels better/warmer than plastic or metal - but I've never seen one that interests me.
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 6 2012, 10:20 PM)
from your statement shows that you're a programmer. lol
anyways, taking it apart won't be too troublesome as long as you remember where things are suppose to be in the first place. else, photos. xD
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haha just following kaiserreich's example, I'm still learning tho. I might take it apart these few days when I have the time..... It's my only keyboard and I don't like using my laptop keyboard (yeah connected to laptop with its USB1.0/1.1)

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Pictures of KBC(Imsto) new colored PBT.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31132-b...h-grey-together
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 6 2012, 10:20 PM)
@kaysa - That is some knowledge of wood!
@Kaiser - I think teak is going to be too damn hard to make a keyboard case. But if anybody does a nice one, I'll buy it for 160 Euros or more in a sec. I seem to prefer heavy keyboards, like the IBMs (~2.5 kg or more) - they have a more solid feel. I liked the Montereys on the SIIG Minitouch but the whole thing was light like a feather. When I started typing/pounding on it, the case would wobble, and then I have thoughts about Made in USA vs Taiwan...  Haven't owned an aluminium keyboard yet, but I guess it would have a more solid feel than plastic (I mean modern day plastic, not vintage IBM plastic). I like the idea of touching the wood - feels better/warmer than plastic or metal - but I've never seen one that interests me.
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epiguru: Teak aren't as heavy nor as hard as Chengal or Belean.
But rest assured its heavier than any plastic.


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QUOTE(scaler @ May 6 2012, 08:58 PM)
Actually I went around looking abit more after that.... the information at the v4 topic is not helpful for my keyboard. The information @ v4 is more suited to be said as switches that are available in the market rather than the type of switch manufacturing technique used. After looking around for almost an hour, I found this which gives me the most helpful information. My keyboard is using linear switch with with membrane contact mechanism (tho it's a 1 layer membrane in contact with a PCB if I remember correctly). I mentioned similar because both use membranes and spring, I didn't say it is using topre.
This line could offend people when used inappropriately which is true in my case. I wanted to learn and given the incomplete information, that's the best deduction I could do at the time. Have you even looked inside the Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro before posting?

Heck I'm not coming back after this treatment for trying to learn. At least my inferior keyboard has proven its worth by being in use for over 10 years.


Added on May 6, 2012, 9:02 pm@kaiserreich & Human10 thanks for the info.
@JohnDiew0107 as I said similar.
Btw I don't think my switch for each key can be removed individually.

EDIT: at least not with the tools I have or with the risk of losing my keyboard.
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@scaler my apology if any insult are posted to you,

think I got too excited because I got myself a HHKB with a Topre switch.

I too owned a MS natural keyboard around 10 years ago,
in my memories, the touch of the Natural keyboard are not similar to a Topre switch.

"Finally got an answer after wondering for so many years lol"
your quest to your keyboard knowledge had just begin!
don't let 2 of my rude lines ruin your passion to seek the truth!
if you really seek the truth, come in to this hell of mechanical keyboard with us,
and start your quest on the Path of Keyboards.

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Keycool had made new spacebar. Rejoice for Leopold 500R owner. Hope they will continue to support their older(Leopold 500R) standard despite going the new KBC/Filco standard.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 01:05 AM)
Keycool had made new spacebar. Rejoice for Leopold 500R owner. Hope they will continue to support their older(Leopold 500R) standard despite going the new KBC/Filco standard.
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right after I place order for 1 red and 1 yellow and a set of white blank key from Keycool......

http://keycool.taobao.com/
But I didn't saw it on official site then nor now....
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 7 2012, 01:15 AM)
right after I place order for 1 red and 1 yellow and a set of white blank key from Keycool......

http://keycool.taobao.com/
But I didn't saw it on official site then nor now....
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Dono why, for some reasons, their products always no update or update dam late compare to other resellers... sweat.gif

BTW, as you had asked, their new product not only that spacebar, but a whole 37keys of rainbow keycaps(lighter color this time). Though, it isn't as cheap as b4...

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 01:05 AM)
Keycool had made new spacebar. Rejoice for Leopold 500R owner. Hope they will continue to support their older(Leopold 500R) standard despite going the new KBC/Filco standard.

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Now I confuse again.
The keycool spacebar fits 500R/700R but not 200R?
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 7 2012, 01:28 AM)
Now I confuse again.
The keycool spacebar fits 500R/700R but not 200R?
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probably yes. Cause the FC200R is following DAS's spacing IIRC.
BTW, the one above may even fit FILCO, anyone want to be the white rat? rolleyes.gif


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What are srars goods? lololol
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probably yes. Cause the FC200R is following DAS's spacing IIRC.
BTW, the one above may even fit FILCO, anyone want to be the white rat? rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(SetsunaFSeiei Exia00 @ May 7 2012, 01:40 AM)
Chinese with their engrish. tongue.gif By the way, is geekhack down?
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http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14136513661
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13974869464&

is this possible to use as O-rings for Mechanical keycaps?

................ they have like 10million types of these @@ shocking.gif

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Just in case anybody is keen, shipping to malaysia can be quoted =D shouldn't be too expensive from Singapore.

Payment via paypal for lowyat peeps =D

Pm for details

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QUOTE(Marclgw @ May 7 2012, 01:47 AM)
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?p...12#post11525412
Just in case anybody is keen, shipping to malaysia can be quoted =D shouldn't be too expensive from Singapore.

Payment via paypal for lowyat peeps =D

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sorry to say but those are available from taobao tongue.gif
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How do you guys describe MX Clear?

for those who have use it
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QUOTE(Marclgw @ May 7 2012, 01:47 AM)
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?p...12#post11525412
Just in case anybody is keen, shipping to malaysia can be quoted =D shouldn't be too expensive from Singapore.

Payment via paypal for lowyat peeps =D

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And the lighter color variants are also out in the market.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 6 2012, 11:26 PM)
link is down??

wow..this looks.. different??!

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13561642493

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link is down??

wow..this looks.. different??!

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=13561642493
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geekhack rollback over 2days... Thus the thread gone...

That custom PCB. 1st ergo mech kb in China. Saw its prototype last time b4 kbc migrate their forum.

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guys, any recommendation for which brand to go if i want a blank key black switch and nkro?
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guys, any recommendation for which brand to go if i want a blank key black switch and nkro?
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Leopold fit your need if they still have free blank key caps
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QUOTE(zandara @ May 7 2012, 03:26 PM)
Leopold fit your need if they still have free blank key caps
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to be honest... still have blank key caps available LOL
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QUOTE(zandara @ May 7 2012, 03:26 PM)
Leopold fit your need if they still have free blank key caps
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hmmmm... izzit most new mechanical keyboard now are usb with ps2 adapter?
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hmmmm... izzit most new mechanical keyboard now are usb with ps2 adapter?
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yar, some even pure USB without ps2 support.

I don't see any flaw with the USB + ps2 adapter combo.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 03:32 PM)
yar, some even pure USB without ps2 support.

I don't see any flaw with the USB + ps2 adapter combo.
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just a personal preference... i'd prefer if the connector isn't too long tongue.gif

malaysia got leopold resellers?

is das ultimate no good?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 7 2012, 03:41 PM)
just a personal preference... i'd prefer if the connector isn't too long tongue.gif

malaysia got leopold resellers?

is das ultimate no good?
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you can check out our forummer Cyclonechuah's sales thread. He's bring in Leopold boards with free black key caps set.

DAS ultimate isnt that bad... but I wouldn't recommend it for the reason:
- glossy body (you need to wipe it everyday, a little bit scratch = gg.com)
- no distri in Malaysia (hard to find, if import, warranty is big problem)
- don't have many switch selection (leopold has all 4 types of switches)

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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 7 2012, 03:49 PM)
you can check out our forummer Cyclonechuah's sales thread. He's bring in Leopold boards with free black key caps set.
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thanks... pm'ed already...

another quick question just for verification purpose... is it hard to type normally on a black switch keyboard? i like the feel of it, but haven't try typing with it on a regular basis...

also would it be good for quick taps (like o2jam tapping)?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 7 2012, 03:41 PM)
just a personal preference... i'd prefer if the connector isn't too long tongue.gif

malaysia got leopold resellers?

is das ultimate no good?
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a USB to ps2 adapter is just around 4cm long, won't affect much...

The worst is just using the USB port, as Leopold already having high kro under USB.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 03:59 PM)
a USB to ps2 adapter is just around 4cm long, won't affect much...

The worst is just using the USB port, as Leopold already having high kro under USB.
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hmm isn't it 6kro? 6kro not enough for me >"<

cyclonechuah no longer selling black switch >"<

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hmm isn't it 6kro? 6kro not enough for me >"<

cyclonechuah no longer selling black switch >"<
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nope, Leopold fc500r having over 18kro under USB.

If that board is sold out, then try ducky g2 or g2 pro. They have USB nkro(mac incompatible though) too.
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 7 2012, 04:03 PM)
hmm isn't it 6kro? 6kro not enough for me >"<

cyclonechuah no longer selling black switch >"<
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go for red switch leopold , you wont regret brows.gif

9008G2 PBT edition is still having stock clearance sales. too bad only have Red and Brown switch available.

9008G2pro, not sure on sale already or not.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 04:10 PM)
nope, Leopold fc500r having over 18kro under USB.

If that board is sold out, then try ducky g2 or g2 pro. They have USB nkro(mac incompatible though) too.
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i can't seem to find black switch for ducky...

leopold still available in black from other seller i think, just no free blank caps... cyntrix also sold out de aih... roughly how much is the blank caps yea?


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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 7 2012, 04:18 PM)
go for red switch leopold , you wont regret  brows.gif

9008G2 PBT edition is still having stock clearance sales. too bad only have Red and Brown switch available.

9008G2pro, not sure on sale already or not.
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dont know how red switch feels like tho... scared later buy then regret haha

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 04:10 PM)
nope, Leopold fc500r having over 18kro under USB.

If that board is sold out, then try ducky g2 or g2 pro. They have USB nkro(mac incompatible though) too.
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it's 21 to be exact tongue.gif
tested my Fc500 and KC87, all 21. (tested on aqua keytest)
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 7 2012, 05:42 PM)
it's 21 to be exact tongue.gif
tested my Fc500 and KC87, all 21. (tested on aqua keytest)
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wow... 21kro is more than enough for me... i only have 10 fingers+10 toes afterall

red seems to be lighter than black... but anyone can tell me exactly how does it feel like? does it feel like typical rubber dome keyboard, or like laptop cross switch?
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 7 2012, 05:42 PM)
it's 21 to be exact tongue.gif
tested my Fc500 and KC87, all 21. (tested on aqua keytest)
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Leopold FC500R is 21KRO via USB?? o_O
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 02:27 AM)
And the lighter color variants are also out in the market.
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I cant brain whats the use of 21KRO ~.~ u only got 10 fingers, 20 if 2 person......
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ May 7 2012, 09:21 PM)
I cant brain whats the use of 21KRO ~.~ u only got 10 fingers, 20 if 2 person......
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Mx black is very bad seller at MY la.

therefore most of us seldom bring MX black in

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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 7 2012, 09:49 PM)
Mx black is very bad seller at MY la.

therefore most of us seldom bring MX black in
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why is that so??
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why is that so??
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i not sure about that. maybe the stiffness of the switches perhaps?
if you need MX Black, i think at most you can get with Steelseries
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QUOTE(scaler @ May 6 2012, 10:04 PM)
similar != same
In this sense similar materials used rather than the design as a whole.

@rurushu I couldn't open the required area, only can see slightly from the side. Microsoft seems unwilling to have their toys taken apart. So I can't risk it... I only cleaned with moist cloth and blow in with my air pump during cleaning.

@JohnDiew0107 the spring not under the dome, that's for sure. But I can't remember the exact set up either, I only opened it once and that's more than half a year ago.

It uses quite a few of what seem to be flex cables (similar to those used in flip phones etc), and I can be quite clumsy at times lol. That's why don't want to risk it.

P.S came back out of boredom....
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 02:27 AM)
And the lighter color variants are also out in the market.
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the lighter colors are nicer.... not so... bright... @.@
QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 7 2012, 10:05 PM)
why is that so??
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well, mainly because most people here would go either brown (the most common) or blue... now slowly adapting to reds.... black maybe still due to the strong actuation force.... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 7 2012, 10:09 PM)
i not sure about that. maybe the stiffness of the switches perhaps?
if you need MX Black, i think at most you can get with Steelseries
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thought of 7G too... thought of getting the promo buy 1 free 1, not sure still have or not... but i start to worry about steelseries... my current steelseries keyboard sucks in terms of durability, and i dont want my first mechanical keyboard to suffer the same fate

QUOTE(rurushu @ May 7 2012, 10:35 PM)
well, mainly because most people here would go either brown (the most common) or blue... now slowly adapting to reds.... black maybe still due to the strong actuation force.... hmm.gif
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hmmm.... personal preference i guess... i hate the clicking sound... and i liked the feel of 7G when I tried it...
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 7 2012, 10:43 PM)
thought of 7G too... thought of getting the promo buy 1 free 1, not sure still have or not... but i start to worry about steelseries... my current steelseries keyboard sucks in terms of durability, and i dont want my first mechanical keyboard to suffer the same fate
hmmm.... personal preference i guess... i hate the clicking sound... and i liked the feel of 7G when I tried it...
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hi, what is yr current sttelseries keyboard?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 7 2012, 10:43 PM)
thought of 7G too... thought of getting the promo buy 1 free 1, not sure still have or not... but i start to worry about steelseries... my current steelseries keyboard sucks in terms of durability, and i dont want my first mechanical keyboard to suffer the same fate
hmmm.... personal preference i guess... i hate the clicking sound... and i liked the feel of 7G when I tried it...
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Probably won't, the durability of them(6GV2 and 7G) are quite good. In fact it is even "truck"-proof.

You should learn about a thing that in those gaming brands world, it is highly possible that they actually use different OEMs for different products. A good OEM is can assure a more trustable quality.
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QUOTE(Alpha_Tay @ May 7 2012, 10:57 PM)
hi, what is yr current sttelseries keyboard?
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zboard... well the keyboard itself is fine... but the chip always go faulty, resulting the key being unable to register... got so pissed i took out the chip and use it like a normal keyboard

QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 11:01 PM)
Probably won't, the durability of them(6GV2 and 7G) are quite good. In fact it is even "truck"-proof.

You should learn about a thing that in those gaming brands world, it is highly possible that they actually use different OEMs for different products. A good OEM is can assure a more trustable quality.
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makes sense... btw, are there blank keycaps for 7G?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 7 2012, 11:07 PM)
zboard... well the keyboard itself is fine... but the chip always go faulty, resulting the key being unable to register... got so pissed i took out the chip and use it like a normal keyboard
makes sense... btw, are there blank keycaps for 7G?
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Nope. In fact even printed keys for SS7G/6GV2 are already hard/rare to be found due to the oddity at the backspace, Enter, \| and right shift.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 7 2012, 11:11 PM)
Nope. In fact even printed keys for SS7G/6GV2 are already hard/rare to be found due to the oddity at the backspace, Enter, \| and right shift.
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hmmm... I guess that's the downside.... falling in love with leopold now the more i see it... especially with blank keycaps drool.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 7 2012, 11:25 PM)
hmmm... I guess that's the downside.... falling in love with leopold now the more i see it... especially with blank keycaps  drool.gif
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Not necessary need 7G.... if you want, you can get a filco or ducky, then buy blank keycaps....
and for filcos, if you want the 7G style wristrest, can get from taobao also laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 7 2012, 11:47 PM)
Not necessary need 7G.... if you want, you can get a filco or ducky, then buy blank keycaps....
and for filcos, if you want the 7G style wristrest, can get from taobao also  laugh.gif
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cry.gif 7G so low rated??
Am I gonna sell my off sweat.gif

how about buy my 2nd hand 7G and try it out?
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 7 2012, 11:47 PM)
Not necessary need 7G.... if you want, you can get a filco or ducky, then buy blank keycaps....
and for filcos, if you want the 7G style wristrest, can get from taobao also  laugh.gif
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i dont like wrist rests... filco is quite expensive from what i see... but, what's their kro on usb? 6?

QUOTE(kaysa @ May 7 2012, 11:51 PM)
cry.gif  7G so low rated??
Am I gonna sell my off  sweat.gif

how about buy my 2nd hand 7G and try it out?
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if the price is right, probably drool.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 12:02 AM)
i dont like wrist rests... filco is quite expensive from what i see... but, what's their kro on usb? 6?
if the price is right, probably  drool.gif
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Actually what is your budget for your first mechanical keyboard? There are a lot of Filco with good price in Garage Sales if you don't mind a second hand unit. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 12:02 AM)
i dont like wrist rests... filco is quite expensive from what i see... but, what's their kro on usb? 6?
if the price is right, probably  drool.gif
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its 300 only, but you need to buy the keycaps together @@ unless someone get the keycaps first.
see my signature for the stuffs.

Price can nego la, since we are in same topic now,
and I see you have a lot PVC models too, I m a collector of PVC girl figures.
Have some limited edition stuffs, someday can show you see if you are interested to get from me or not. brows.gif


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Actually what is your budget for your first mechanical keyboard? There are a lot of Filco with good price in Garage Sales if you don't mind a second hand unit. tongue.gif
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Ya those too, you should look all and find yourself one that suit you best, or just get every switch and try them out,
then decide on which one you gonna keep. for me, I brought all, then tried them all.
and finally I stop at Topre HHKB Pro 2.

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 8 2012, 12:12 AM)
its 300 only, but you need to buy the keycaps together @@ unless someone get the keycaps first.
see my signature for the stuffs.

Price can nego la, since we are in same topic now,
and I see you have a lot PVC models too, I m a collector of PVC girl figures.
Have some limited edition stuffs, someday can show you see if you are interested to get from me or not. brows.gif
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from your siggy i noticed you also have leopold fc500r red switch... may i know your opinion on red switch against black? tongue.gif

ot: i don't have that much pvc figures yet >"<... still looking around for more drool.gif
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zzz seems am always unlucky with keycaps. Ragnorock's red on black set came but there is a 5 key on the numpad addon missing sleep.gif
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QUOTE(zandara @ May 8 2012, 12:12 AM)
Actually what is your budget for your first mechanical keyboard? There are a lot of Filco with good price in Garage Sales if you don't mind a second hand unit. tongue.gif
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around 300++ would be good... that's part of the reason i was targeting 7G, since i saw a promotion at a local store, buy 1 free 1

one filco that caught my attention is the ninja... mainly because it's almost blank tongue.gif
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zzz seems am always unlucky with keycaps. Ragnorock's red on black set came but there is a 5 key on the numpad addon missing sleep.gif
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come sell to me the 87 keycaps (without numpad) brows.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 12:16 AM)
from your siggy i noticed you also have leopold fc500r red switch... may i know your opinion on red switch against black? tongue.gif

ot: i don't have that much pvc figures yet >"<... still looking around for more  drool.gif
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7G is my first Mechanical keyboard, 2nd is Filco, 3rd is Leopold, then one of those strange keyboard from 1988, and finally a CdPro2
Main different of red and black is the key press weight, the black is 55g force, red is 45g, correct me if I m wrong,

I found that the Black is heavier than my level of comfort typing, but I think it is better in gaming,
I have less mistake in gaming when using 7G than the red switch Leopold, Might be the reason I m using USB for Leopold,
but P/S2 for 7G.... not sure.

The overall performance, durabilities and built of 7G is Guaranteed, hence the price tag is above Filco, Leopold and Das,
the only shortcoming is that the keycaps are difficult to find replacement.

But my sale are include of the replacement keycaps as well, so there is nothing holding it back, just my commercial promoting line. icon_rolleyes.gif


On complete other elements:
I have a shining wind PVC Clalaclan Bikini edition, maybe you know what that mean.... sweat.gif
and have some Chobits stuffs, some Hentai stuffs, some Ecchi stuffs, a Air-gear Ringo Pinky, a Tsuki Hime Alucard pinky.
and more, total around 80 pcs of collections sweat.gif most of them are out of the box, but some are MISB also.

Let me know your collection direction, and I will post some images...
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If only I could get Filco in Australia.. sad.gif
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Hi dear pros does anyone know where can i buy a DAS ultimate keyboard in Malaysia ? biggrin.gif


also how does it compare against blackwiddow ultimate ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hsi3nrhu @ May 8 2012, 02:05 AM)
Hi dear pros does anyone know where can i buy a DAS ultimate keyboard in Malaysia ? biggrin.gif
also how does it compare against blackwiddow ultimate ? biggrin.gif
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there's no local distributor for das, so you would have to get it from other source, e.g:
http://global.pchome.com.tw/english/?m=ite..._NO=SBAE0P&tm=e

the price is quite ok, 75+ usd + 10+ usd shipping
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 8 2012, 01:16 AM)
7G is my first Mechanical keyboard, 2nd is Filco, 3rd is Leopold, then one of those strange keyboard from 1988, and finally a CdPro2
Main different of red and black is the key press  weight, the black is 55g force, red is 45g, correct me if I m wrong,

I found that the Black is heavier than my level of comfort typing, but I think it is better in gaming,
I have less mistake in gaming when using 7G than the red switch Leopold, Might be the reason I m using USB for Leopold,
but P/S2 for 7G.... not sure.

The overall performance, durabilities and built of 7G is Guaranteed, hence the price tag is above Filco, Leopold and Das,
the only shortcoming is that the keycaps are difficult to find replacement.

But my sale are include of the replacement keycaps as well, so there is nothing holding it back, just my commercial promoting line.  icon_rolleyes.gif
On complete other elements:
I have a shining wind PVC Clalaclan Bikini edition, maybe you know what that mean....  sweat.gif
and have some Chobits stuffs, some Hentai stuffs, some Ecchi stuffs, a Air-gear Ringo Pinky, a Tsuki Hime Alucard pinky.
and more, total around 80 pcs of collections sweat.gif most of them are out of the box, but some are MISB also.

Let me know your collection direction, and I will post some images...
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wow, thanks for the clarification... in your experience and and from what you heard from others, do you often hear people saying that they 7G keycaps need to be replaced due to faulty/defect etc etc? btw, Not sure how I feel regarding the rainbow keycaps... it's just too... colorful sweat.gif

I have some list of what figures I want here
i suppose for shining series, I'd like kureha & xiao mei... I like tony taka's artwork, and only a handful of figures were able to live up to my expectations sadly tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kyrmian @ May 8 2012, 01:27 AM)
If only I could get Filco in Australia.. sad.gif
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You mean you want to get a FILCO in Australia?
Or you want the FILCOs that are for sale in Australia?

http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/search/?q=filco

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Hi dear pros does anyone know where can i buy a DAS ultimate keyboard in Malaysia ? biggrin.gif
also how does it compare against blackwiddow ultimate ? biggrin.gif
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Get a FILCO.
It comes from the same factory.
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Yup.

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Though I do notice some warping on the acrylic.
The center is higher than the sides. Was this unavoidable?

EDIT: The HHKB roof fits the HHKB nicely. Just the warping that is a bit downer.

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Yup.

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Though I do notice some warping on the acrylic.
The center is higher than the sides. Was this unavoidable?

EDIT: The HHKB roof fits the HHKB nicely. Just the warping that is a bit downer.
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warping u mean something like small bending?
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wow, thanks for the clarification... in your experience and and from what you heard from others, do you often hear people saying that they 7G keycaps need to be replaced due to faulty/defect etc etc? btw, Not sure how I feel regarding the rainbow keycaps... it's just too... colorful  sweat.gif

I have some list of what figures I want here
i suppose for shining series, I'd like kureha & xiao mei... I like tony taka's artwork, and only a handful of figures were able to live up to my expectations sadly tongue.gif
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lol, there had not been even one person telling me that their keycaps need to be replace, but for my own I feel like replacing, since they are ABS,
I do not have much love for ABS keycaps, so I got myself a set of PBT when some of the original ABS are slightly worn.
the colorful thingy is personal preference, but to be honest, the one I thought I ordered is slightly darker in tone,
but they sent this one, But it kinda look good to so I didn't complain, and after uses for quite sometime,
it sink in to me, I feel that it is a good color now....

So like I say, the original ABS keycaps are slightly worn, I suggest buyer get the PBT keycaps together with the keyboard.

For my PVC figure collections, Its spontaneous, or impulsive buy for most of them,
some I like the figure because I like the story of the characters,
many of them have very striking appearances and designs, and when I first saw them online or on the shop display shelf, sweat.gif
I grab them.... because I missed several and they are all non-reproduction items, I do not want to miss one that I regret later.
but ever since I stuck in this Mecha Keyboard Hell, I stop going through those PVC stuffs,
and most of my "investment" went the keyboard and keycaps. whistling.gif
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Ducky is doing promotion nationwide now

all Shining model from RM399 on


Added on May 8, 2012, 11:12 am
QUOTE(kaysa @ May 8 2012, 11:45 AM)
lol, there had not been even one person telling me that their keycaps need to be replace, but for my own I feel like replacing, since they are ABS,
I do not have much love for ABS keycaps, so I got myself a set of PBT when some of the original ABS are slightly worn.
the colorful thingy is personal preference, but to be honest, the one I thought I ordered is slightly darker in tone,
but they sent this one, But it kinda look good to so I didn't complain, and after uses for quite sometime,
it sink in to me, I feel that it is a good color now....

So like I say, the original ABS keycaps are slightly worn, I suggest buyer get the PBT keycaps together with the keyboard.

For my PVC figure collections, Its spontaneous, or impulsive buy for most of them,
some I like the figure because I like the story of the characters,
many of them have very striking appearances and designs, and when I first saw them online or on the shop display shelf, sweat.gif
I grab them.... because I missed several and they are all non-reproduction items, I do not want to miss one that I regret later.
but ever since I stuck in this Mecha Keyboard Hell, I stop going through those PVC stuffs,
and most of my "investment" went the keyboard and keycaps. whistling.gif
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i checked your Blog. alot of Eva ey~ my favourite too smile.gif

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 8 2012, 10:45 AM)
lol, there had not been even one person telling me that their keycaps need to be replace, but for my own I feel like replacing, since they are ABS,
I do not have much love for ABS keycaps, so I got myself a set of PBT when some of the original ABS are slightly worn.
the colorful thingy is personal preference, but to be honest, the one I thought I ordered is slightly darker in tone,
but they sent this one, But it kinda look good to so I didn't complain, and after uses for quite sometime,
it sink in to me, I feel that it is a good color now....

So like I say, the original ABS keycaps are slightly worn, I suggest buyer get the PBT keycaps together with the keyboard.

For my PVC figure collections, Its spontaneous, or impulsive buy for most of them,
some I like the figure because I like the story of the characters,
many of them have very striking appearances and designs, and when I first saw them online or on the shop display shelf, sweat.gif
I grab them.... because I missed several and they are all non-reproduction items, I do not want to miss one that I regret later.
but ever since I stuck in this Mecha Keyboard Hell, I stop going through those PVC stuffs,
and most of my "investment" went the keyboard and keycaps. whistling.gif
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I see... haha I guess it's personal preference since I prefer black color tongue.gif... and I like it even more when I saw a totally blank keycaps keyboard... however I guess from my POV, I will only be buying one mechanical kb, so I guess there's no need to worry of upgratitis, and that if possible, I want the first purchase to be the last too tongue.gif, I guess that's why I'm making some research first...

do you have like a list of figures for me to see? who knows there might be one that'll interest me... you can pm me the list so it doesn't go too off topic tongue.gif

QUOTE(storm88 @ May 8 2012, 11:02 AM)
Ducky is doing promotion nationwide now

all Shining model from RM399 on
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sadly I can't find black switch
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Added on May 8, 2012, 11:12 am
i checked your Blog. alot of Eva ey~ my favourite too smile.gif
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But I do not own a blog @@
the one you checked I think belong to x-1o8-x cool2.gif drool.gif I like his collection too.


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I see... haha I guess it's personal preference since I prefer black color tongue.gif... and I like it even more when I saw a totally blank keycaps keyboard... however I guess from my POV, I will only be buying one mechanical kb, so I guess there's no need to worry of upgratitis, and that if possible, I want the first purchase to be the last too tongue.gif, I guess that's why I'm making some research first...

do you have like a list of figures for me to see? who knows there might be one that'll interest me... you can pm me the list so it doesn't go too off topic tongue.gif

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Haha, you can only dream to stop at first mechanical keyboard.
You think you can stop at first PVC figure collection?
making research will not help, unless your research involving typing the keyboard switches,
find a place where they have all kind of switches, and try them all, that won't do the trick too,
be cause even same switches in different brand feels different because the built and materials,
quality control, and designs are differ. and when you go down the road of Keycaps mods,
there is more hell waiting. PBT, ABS, POM, Metal, just wait until you sink deeper into this keyboard hell.


I m not into trading or selling my pvc collection just yet, I would love to sell some just to make some space,
but I m need to sort out what I really have, I only displaying them in a cabinet and some are piling up against one another...
I will post up to the collectible or model sale/trading section when the time is right, you can see them when the topic are up.

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 8 2012, 11:58 AM)
But I do not own a blog @@
the one you checked I think belong to x-1o8-x cool2.gif  drool.gif I like his collection too.


Added on May 8, 2012, 12:07 pm

Haha, you can only dream to stop at first mechanical keyboard.
You think  you can stop at first PVC figure collection?
making research will not help, unless your research involving typing the keyboard switches,
find a place where they have all kind of switches, and try them all, that won't do the trick too,
be cause even same switches in different brand feels different because the built and materials,
quality control, and designs are differ. and when you go down the road of Keycaps mods,
there is more hell waiting. PBT, ABS, POM, Metal, just wait until you sink deeper into this keyboard hell.

I m not into trading or selling my pvc collection just yet, I would love to sell some just to make some space,
but I m need to sort out what I really have, I only displaying them in a cabinet and some are piling up against one another...
I will post up to the collectible or model sale/trading section when the time is right, you can see them when the topic are up.
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LOL well, thankfully blank keycaps are what interest me most... yeah my research will also involve actually typing on the keyboard itself... I liked how 7G & 6Gv2 felt, and I hate how blackwidow felt... so far that's about the only keyboards i've tried... penang dont have many mechanical keyboards seller sad.gif

keyboard aren't like figures... figures are to be displayed, but keyboards are meant to be used... even 2 keyboards right now i find very annoying (one usb, 1 ps/2 for the sake of gaming)... I hate the feeling of the slim ps/2 keyboard that I use for gaming but at least I can press more than my usb which is only 5KRO... I like the feeling of zboard a little, just 5kro is too limited for me...

lol I only have eva gachapon figures... unless u meant the blurays haha... and i only have few figures sweat.gif many still pending shipping and reason to buy >"<

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 8 2012, 10:31 AM)
warping u mean something like small bending?
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Just got mine 10minutes before, it look great,
but like Kai said the middle are bent upward so the middle part are not touching the keyboard, it's like a bridge, u know what I mean?
and it doesn't stay at the surface of the keyboard, it slide downward or left or right side of the keyboard....

I think I need to get some foam or soft jelly kind of thing to stick it to the edge of it to prevent it from slipping around...
that will also solve the issue of mid bending upward like a bridge.

Overall the item very good at it's price, if I want a perfect roof made just for HHKB Pro2,
that's going to cost me $USD40.00 without shipment, from EK.

Thank you for your effort to make this group buy a successful one.
I really appreciate it.
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 8 2012, 12:16 PM)
Just got mine 10minutes before, it look great,
but like Kai said the middle are bent upward so the middle part are not touching the keyboard, it's like a bridge, u know what I mean?
and it doesn't stay at the surface of the keyboard, it slide downward or left or right side of the keyboard....

I think I need to get some foam or soft jelly kind of thing to stick it to the edge of it to prevent it from slipping around...
that will also solve the issue of mid bending upward like a bridge.

Overall the item very good at it's price, if I want a perfect roof made just for HHKB Pro2,
that's going to cost me $USD40.00 without shipment, from EK.

Thank you for your effort to make this group buy a successful one.
I really appreciate it.
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ic now i nderstand.

not sure tkl and full size have this issue or not.
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 8 2012, 12:26 PM)
ic now i nderstand.

not sure tkl and full size have this issue or not.
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Issues on HHKB size and TKL size roof.
This is acceptable for the price actually.
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if tkl also have issue than i bet it is side effect of bending the 90 degree part.

may be their mol are not perfect or effect of heating.
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just tested cm storm rapid i think... both red and black switches...

now I am certain I want black switch...

the keyboard i tested seems to have more than 10kro on usb... hmmm
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 04:07 PM)
just tested cm storm rapid i think... both red and black switches...

now I am certain I want black switch...

the keyboard i tested seems to have more than 10kro on usb... hmmm
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If CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid, only 6KRO through USB.
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QUOTE(SetsunaFSeiei Exia00 @ May 8 2012, 04:26 PM)
If CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid, only 6KRO through USB.
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this is what i tried... well I didn't bring aqua keytest, i just open notepad and attempt to press 10 keys at once, they all register on the notepad. so if i am not wrong, that's 10KRO yea?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 04:32 PM)
this is what i tried... well I didn't bring aqua keytest, i just open notepad and attempt to press 10 keys at once, they all register on the notepad. so if i am not wrong, that's 10KRO yea?
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Best way to check them if no aquakeytest is by pressing down and hold keys one follow by one, 6KRO should mean you can continue to register strokes till the 7th keys it failed and it will continue repeating the 6th keys.


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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 8 2012, 04:41 PM)
Best way to check them if no aquakeytest is by pressing down and hold keys one follow by one, 6KRO should mean you can continue to register strokes till the 7th keys it failed and it will continue repeating the 6th keys.
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won't it be the same if i immediately hold 10 keys and they all register?

i hold qwervnuiop and they pop out instantly on notepad... i didnt hold long enough for the repeat to kick in tho

i cant do that with my keyboard as my current keyboard is only 5kro >"<
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 04:32 PM)
this is what i tried... well I didn't bring aqua keytest, i just open notepad and attempt to press 10 keys at once, they all register on the notepad. so if i am not wrong, that's 10KRO yea?
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 8 2012, 04:41 PM)
Best way to check them if no aquakeytest is by pressing down and hold keys one follow by one, 6KRO should mean you can continue to register strokes till the 7th keys it failed and it will continue repeating the 6th keys.
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I have one and I've tested using Aqua's Key Test. Only 6KRO.
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QUOTE(SetsunaFSeiei Exia00 @ May 8 2012, 04:46 PM)
I have one and I've tested using Aqua's Key Test. Only 6KRO.
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hmmm maybe i'll go to the shop and try doing that method, or just bring the aqua keytest

hard to judge just by notepad too since im not sure whether it is holding the key or not >"<
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 04:44 PM)
won't it be the same if i immediately hold 10 keys and they all register?

i hold qwervnuiop and they pop out instantly on notepad... i didnt hold long enough for the repeat to kick in tho

i cant do that with my keyboard as my current keyboard is only 5kro >"<
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no, that's not the exact way of testing KRO.

because the moment you press down all the 10 keys, there's still slight difference between each key press. Hence, the characters all shown up. electronics works in miliseconds or faster.

AquaKey would do the test perfectly as you just keep pressing on the key until no further key is able to register.

for example, 6KRO keyboard, you simultanously press 6keys (do not let go) and all the 6 keys still registering, but if you press the 7th key while you still holding the previous 6keys, the 7th key wont register.
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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 8 2012, 04:55 PM)
no, that's not the exact way of testing KRO.

because the moment you press down all the 10 keys, there's still slight difference between each key press. Hence, the characters all shown up. electronics works in miliseconds or faster.

AquaKey would do the test perfectly as you just keep pressing on the key until no further key is able to register.

for example, 6KRO keyboard, you simultanously press 6keys (do not let go) and all the 6 keys still registering, but if you press the 7th key while you still holding the previous 6keys, the 7th key wont register.
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yea... maybe mechanical keyboard works differently since i dont exactly know how mechanical keyboard behaves, but if i were to try and press 7 keys increasingly on my rubber dome, only 6 will register if it's 6kro... if i try to press 7 at once, nothing will register, same goes for my 5kro keyboard... as soon i try to press 6 at once, nothing registers

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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 04:58 PM)
yea... maybe mechanical keyboard works differently since i dont exactly know how mechanical keyboard behaves, but if i were to try and press 7 keys at once on my rubber dome, only 6 will register if it's 6kro... if i try to press 7 at once, nothing will register, same goes for my 5kro keyboard... as soon i try to press 6 at once, nothing registers
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well, I'm not sure whether your method is correct or not..

nevertheless, I'll share my KRO test method. I'll run AquaKeyTest and then I will slowly press on 1 key by one key without letting go the key I pressed.

eg: I press Z and hold it, X and hold it, C and hold it and so on....... this continues until Aqua stop getting signals. The maximum key I can hold is the KRO of the board.


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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 8 2012, 05:07 PM)
well, I'm not sure whether your method is correct or not..

nevertheless, I'll share my KRO test method. I'll run AquaKeyTest and then I will slowly press on 1 key by one key without letting go the key I pressed.

eg: I press Z and hold it, X and hold it, C and hold it and so on....... this continues until Aqua stop getting signals. The maximum key I can hold is the KRO of the board.
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hmmm... maybe you can try my method too... if yours is 6 kro via usb, try pressing 7 keys simultaneously... i just tried on aqua keytest with my rubber dome, and nothing registered too
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 05:09 PM)
hmmm... maybe you can try my method too... if yours is 6 kro via usb, try pressing 7 keys simultaneously... i just tried on aqua keytest with my rubber dome, and nothing registered too
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by mean of simultaneously.... did you quickly press on [insert number here] keys and let them go.... (without holding them)

if yes, I afraid that is not a valid test, you need to press and hold. if holding 7keys get you registered nothing on Aqua, try reduce the number
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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 8 2012, 05:24 PM)
by mean of simultaneously.... did you quickly press on [insert number here] keys and let them go.... (without holding them)

if yes, I afraid that is not a valid test, you need to press and hold. if holding 7keys get you registered nothing on Aqua, try reduce the number
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what im trying to say is that, if it doesnt register it means you can't press 7 keys simultaneously, and you won't be able to hold 7 of them either... if you can press 6 simultaneously, you can also hold 6 keys with ease

that seems to be true at least for my chapalang keyboard.. maybe mechanical keyboard works differently... i don't own one yet so i can't confirm this tongue.gif

edit: quickfire rapid seems to be cheap... RM229 lidet... any issues so far with this keyboard?? just sad it isn't full size >"<

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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 05:35 PM)
what im trying to say is that, if it doesnt register it means you can't press 7 keys simultaneously, and you won't be able to hold 7 of them either... if you can press 6 simultaneously, you can also hold 6 keys with ease

that seems to be true at least for my chapalang keyboard.. maybe mechanical keyboard works differently... i don't own one yet so i can't confirm this tongue.gif
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anyhow, testing the KRO is exactly the same no matter how chapalang or high end the keyboard is. you can still test the KRO of your rubber domes.. but definitely not the touch screen keyboard..
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 05:35 PM)
what im trying to say is that, if it doesnt register it means you can't press 7 keys simultaneously, and you won't be able to hold 7 of them either... if you can press 6 simultaneously, you can also hold 6 keys with ease

that seems to be true at least for my chapalang keyboard.. maybe mechanical keyboard works differently... i don't own one yet so i can't confirm this tongue.gif

edit: quickfire rapid seems to be cheap... RM229 lidet... any issues so far with this keyboard?? just sad it isn't full size >"<
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I would suggest you get my Steelseries Full NKRO, with another RM70, but the keycaps has to go with it.... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 8 2012, 05:43 PM)
language and communication barrier  tongue.gif

anyhow, testing the KRO is exactly the same no matter how chapalang or high end the keyboard is. you can still test the KRO of your rubber domes.. but definitely not the touch screen keyboard..
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i see... the poison of mech kb is slowly kicking in... remembering the smoothness of each keypress.... argh >"<

QUOTE(kaysa @ May 8 2012, 05:56 PM)
I would suggest you get my Steelseries Full NKRO, with another RM70, but the keycaps has to go with it.... sweat.gif
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i might take that offer if i didn't have to buy the keycaps sweat.gif

tho i'd still like blank keys cry.gif

feel like ordering directly from elitekeyboard now >"<
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 06:10 PM)
i see... the poison of mech kb is slowly kicking in... remembering the smoothness of each keypress.... argh >"<
i might take that offer if i didn't have to buy the keycaps  sweat.gif

tho i'd still like blank keys  cry.gif

feel like ordering directly from elitekeyboard now >"<
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erm.....
I think I have to sell the keyboard without the keycaps for RM350......
thats without the postage, that will probably cost around another RM50, with GdExpress.

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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 8 2012, 05:43 PM)
language and communication barrier  tongue.gif

anyhow, testing the KRO is exactly the same no matter how chapalang or high end the keyboard is. you can still test the KRO of your rubber domes.. but definitely not the touch screen keyboard..
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If you can accept the overbranding + the rubber coating on the case + fugly fonts, then it is perfectly fine for the board. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 06:10 PM)
i see... the poison of mech kb is slowly kicking in... remembering the smoothness of each keypress.... argh >"<
i might take that offer if i didn't have to buy the keycaps  sweat.gif

tho i'd still like blank keys  cry.gif

feel like ordering directly from elitekeyboard now >"<
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Take a look at GH, here or taobao if anything interesting going on.
Taobao's price is normally cheaper and more choices especially keycaps part(KBC is based in China).
Or if you having any friends in Taiwan, armygroup and Inpad are also good choices.

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 8 2012, 06:57 PM)

Added on May 8, 2012, 7:05 pm

erm.....
I think I have to sell the keyboard without the keycaps for RM350......
thats without the postage, that will probably cost around another RM50, with GdExpress.
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ouch... that'll be over my budget already >"<

QUOTE(Human10 @ May 8 2012, 08:08 PM)
If you can accept the overbranding + the rubber coating on the case + fugly fonts, then it is perfectly fine for the board. thumbup.gif
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hahaha... the only "gaming" keyboard I have so far is this joke of a zboard which I bought for RM100 from a friend... looking back, it's kinda sad, and good at the same time... i was too poor to consider an expensive keyboard, yet at the same time i saved by not spending on such "gaming" keyboard biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 08:12 PM)
ouch... that'll be over my budget already >"<
hahaha... the only "gaming" keyboard I have so far is this joke of a zboard which I bought for RM100 from a friend... looking back, it's kinda sad, and good at the same time... i was too poor to consider an expensive keyboard, yet at the same time i saved by not spending on such "gaming" keyboard biggrin.gif
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Gaming keyboard is a joke and gimmicks, while Mechanical keyboard isn't and is serious business.
A mix of both may be consist of both... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 8 2012, 08:20 PM)
Gaming keyboard is a joke and gimmicks, while Mechanical keyboard isn't and is serious business.
A mix of both may be consist of both... whistling.gif
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I came to realize that when I first saw 7G few years back biggrin.gif

since then I always targeted one tongue.gif

i dont need fancy backlit, nor macro... i just need more kro than my fingers and fast response tongue.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 8 2012, 08:28 PM)
I came to realize that when I first saw 7G few years back biggrin.gif

since then I always targeted one tongue.gif

i dont need fancy backlit, nor macro... i just need more kro than my fingers and fast response tongue.gif
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normal boards from china will do then tongue.gif
mostly below 300, noppoo, plu, plum, etc

if you're aiming for keygasm, go for better ones like filco, leopold or even realforce, hhkb

@all
saw this on kbt just now, zippy yawn.gif
http://kbtalking.cool3c.com/article/58489

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http://kbtalking.cool3c.com/article/58489
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ May 9 2012, 01:42 AM)
it would look quite nice if without the "top extension" sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 9 2012, 01:35 AM)
normal boards from china will do then tongue.gif
mostly below 300, noppoo, plu, plum, etc

if you're aiming for keygasm, go for better ones like filco, leopold or even realforce, hhkb

@all
saw this on kbt just now, zippy yawn.gif
http://kbtalking.cool3c.com/article/58489
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now that going to get one, might as well target for some keygasm too biggrin.gif

never tried topre yet, and it's unlikely I'll ever get to demo one in penang... shops sell too much razer stuffs to even consider other brands shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 06:18 AM)
now that going to get one, might as well target for some keygasm too biggrin.gif

never tried topre yet, and it's unlikely I'll ever get to demo one in penang... shops sell too much razer stuffs to even consider other brands  shakehead.gif
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rayzerrr in the older days are better (just the mice) sad.gif
FYI, if you're planning to get realforce in the future, just tell our TS. smile.gif
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 9 2012, 02:35 AM)
it would look quite nice if without the "top extension"  sweat.gif
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Without top extension, will look like ducky

QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 06:18 AM)
now that going to get one, might as well target for some keygasm too biggrin.gif

never tried topre yet, and it's unlikely I'll ever get to demo one in penang... shops sell too much razer stuffs to even consider other brands  shakehead.gif
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You said penang and you want a demo ?
PM me and we can arrange something .
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 9 2012, 07:07 AM)
rayzerrr in the older days are better (just the mice) sad.gif
FYI, if you're planning to get realforce in the future, just tell our TS. smile.gif
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so far the only razer mouse I find worth the price is naga... the rest are like makan brand to me...

QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 9 2012, 08:10 AM)
Without top extension, will look like ducky
You said penang and you want a demo  ?
PM me and we can arrange something .
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pm'ed biggrin.gif
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If you thought Topre keyboards were expensive you should take a good look at their keycaps sad.gif
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QUOTE(jinhan108 @ May 9 2012, 02:16 PM)
If you thought Topre keyboards were expensive you should take a good look at their keycaps sad.gif
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will the price of the original Topre realforce key caps reach RM300?

if so, RM900+- for realforce is quite self-explanatory...
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115k Won from Leopold.kr translates to about RM300+ excl. shipping.

Elitekeyboards sells them at a whopping US$110/set, excl. shipping. Yay for capitalism.

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QUOTE(jinhan108 @ May 9 2012, 02:27 PM)
115k Won from Leopold.kr translates to about RM300+ excl. shipping.

Elitekeyboards sells them at a whopping US$110/set, excl. shipping. Yay for capitalism.
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Great.
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is it easy to find blank keycaps for cm storm quickfire rapid?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 04:35 PM)
is it easy to find blank keycaps for cm storm quickfire rapid?
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AFAIK, any blank caps that fits on Filco 87 will fit on quickfire rapid
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 06:18 AM)
now that going to get one, might as well target for some keygasm too biggrin.gif

never tried topre yet, and it's unlikely I'll ever get to demo one in penang... shops sell too much razer stuffs to even consider other brands  shakehead.gif
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Like Kaiser, I'm making my Realforce 87U 45g available for demo when I get back to Penang in a couple of months. It'll be nice to have a Topre Club in Penang.
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 04:35 PM)
is it easy to find blank keycaps for cm storm quickfire rapid?
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quickfire rapid has standard layout.. hence super easy to find key caps..
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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 9 2012, 05:11 PM)
quickfire rapid has standard layout.. hence super easy to find key caps..
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too bad im all out of cash now
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anyone can do a price chart for mech keyboard?
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Hmmmm,..... HHKB Pro 2 is how many grams weight force?
is there varied? I mean is there like 45g uniform, 55g uniform, or mix weight?
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 9 2012, 04:42 PM)
AFAIK, any blank caps that fits on Filco 87 will fit on quickfire rapid
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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 9 2012, 05:11 PM)
quickfire rapid has standard layout.. hence super easy to find key caps..
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thanks for the reply... kinda doubting atm since it's RM299 here, and without numpads... I use numpads to adjust volume on my foobar >"< unless there's fancy numpads that I can obtain biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 4 2012, 08:40 AM)
my 3d printer cannot do PBT yet.
but my next investment with a newer design machine, might able to do it. (that one would cost >RM15K per machine...)


Added on May 4, 2012, 8:40 am
Yea, how was the Pure going? production delay like Ducky ke?  hmm.gif


Added on May 4, 2012, 8:43 am
yes, it's possible. base on the trial run from a friend who stay at UK,
the printed keycap can be use, but need to do quite some touch up work.

Don't think keycap seller would follow the "wind" to use 3d printer to produce keycaps
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What 3D printer are you using? 0.o
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 9 2012, 06:50 PM)
Hmmmm,..... HHKB Pro 2 is how many grams weight force?
is there varied? I mean is there like 45g uniform, 55g uniform, or mix weight?
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I think the HHKB Pro 2 is supposed to be 45g uniform. But I've read people reporting the feel is different to the Realforce 45g and the real weighting on the HHKB is something closer to 50g.
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are there any sellers here that sell mechanical numpads?

can't seem to find filco tenkeypad sellers here >"<
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 09:36 PM)
are there any sellers here that sell mechanical numpads?

can't seem to find filco tenkeypad sellers here >"<
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 9 2012, 09:51 PM)
Interested in a like-new Kinesis Low-Force Keypad? It has Cherry brown switches. I have the original packaging. Purchased in Nov 2011 because soon after purchase, I started using an IBM Model F, which I have stuck with. The Model F has its own numeric keypad.
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ugh... white doesn't seem to fit my layout >"<, sorry sad.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 09:53 PM)
ugh... white doesn't seem to fit my layout >"<, sorry sad.gif
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If you asking for numpad, that's the layout.
Otherwise, what kind of a numpad are you look for?
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 9 2012, 05:17 PM)
diablo exocet smile.gif
too bad im all out of cash now
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oh ya.... about the diablo exocet, wait now it's called Sanctuary set right??? laugh.gif laugh.gif
the groupbuy seems still not having any additional news.... even price estimation is gone...
sigh.... sad.gif sad.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 08:05 PM)
thanks for the reply... kinda doubting atm since it's RM299 here, and without numpads... I use numpads to adjust volume on my foobar >"< unless there's fancy numpads that I can obtain biggrin.gif
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CM Quickfire have Multimedia keys, which include adjusting volume IIRC.


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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 9 2012, 09:51 PM)
Interested in a like-new Kinesis Low-Force Keypad? It has Cherry brown switches. I have the original packaging. Purchased in Nov 2011 because soon after purchase, I started using an IBM Model F, which I have stuck with. The Model F has its own numeric keypad.
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Nice stuff you have there. The one more commonly found is the Goldtouch, which having the weird 00 keys... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 9 2012, 04:18 PM)
Great.
Bug Cyclone to get those lime green caps smile.gif
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I have been bugging! But he hasn't been replying sad.gif So busy!

If no reply by the 16th will just get them from Elitekeyboards because that seems to be the only place to get them conveniently :S

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QUOTE(justnits @ May 9 2012, 06:01 PM)
anyone can do a price chart for mech keyboard?
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Pratically impossible. There are lots and lots of models/brands out there, and each dealers selling different prices, hard to quantize them all...
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 9 2012, 10:27 PM)
CM Quickfire have Multimedia keys, which include adjusting volume IIRC.


Added on May 9, 2012, 10:30 pm
Nice stuff you have there. The one more commonly found is the Goldtouch, which having the weird 00 keys... sweat.gif
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erm my numpad shortcuts are set for a preset volume, ranging from -21db till -3db, not the typical volume up/down sweat.gif

I guess I can make the shortcut to include modifier keys, tho I'd like to skip that if possible

I did some googling and found some 87 keys cherry mx keycaps sold overseas... quite nice since you can customize it to your liking too
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lol, actually I've made one price list so that I can show then after got them poisoned..

but that list only covers locally available brands... and it was few months ago..
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QUOTE(jinhan108 @ May 9 2012, 10:30 PM)
I have been bugging! But he hasn't been replying sad.gif So busy!

If no reply by the 16th will just get them from Elitekeyboards because that seems to be the only place to get them conveniently :S
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I want to get it, but my balance is negative already.

QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 9 2012, 10:36 PM)
lol, actually I've made one price list so that I can show then after got them poisoned..

but that list only covers locally available brands... and it was few months ago..
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You can update with RACE soon tongue.gif
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 9 2012, 09:03 PM)
I think the HHKB Pro 2 is supposed to be 45g uniform. But I've read people reporting the feel is different to the Realforce 45g and the real weighting on the HHKB is something closer to 50g.
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Thanks for the info, I do not know what is the actual weight, but it seem heavier than the red switch Leopold......
Red switch is 45g right? then it is suppose to be 50g or even 55g...... not sure how to measure it.....
wait let me try this....

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That's some one cent! around 28+-,
the weight is 56g and the key sink in!

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Tragic happen!!! when testing the enter key!!!
the tower had fallen!!!
later tested it sink in at 58g....

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this is the weight for A key....

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 9 2012, 10:51 PM)
Thanks for the info, I do not know what is the actual weight, but it seem heavier than the red switch Leopold......
Red switch is 45g right? then it is suppose to be 50g or even 55g...... not sure how to measure it.....
wait let me try this....
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Heard that it is due to the property of the dome. Hard to make domes with all having exactly the same stiffness. The rating on the specs is +/-15g... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 9 2012, 11:00 PM)
Heard that it is due to the property of the dome. Hard to make domes with all having exactly the same stiffness. The rating on the specs is +/-15g... sweat.gif
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you are right, the enter are different weight already,
I think maybe will find all different weight if I test all keys sweat.gif
and the Fn key is 51g =_=|||
is that because of my scale are broken or the standard of Malaysia 1 cents are non standard?
also the possibility of the dome are different weight @@ rclxub.gif

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has anyone here ordered from wasdkeyboard?

I kinda like their customize feature... not sure if they ship to malaysia tho
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 11:43 PM)
has anyone here ordered from wasdkeyboard?

I kinda like their customize feature... not sure if they ship to malaysia tho
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i think they do or i might be wrong. you can try to ask kEazYc, i remember he got a full set of blank caps from wasd last time
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 9 2012, 11:52 PM)
i think they do or i might be wrong. you can try to ask kEazYc, i remember he got a full set of blank  caps from wasd last time
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from what i see, keycaps alone is around $80... I thought it's going to be cheaper lol
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 10 2012, 12:04 AM)
from what i see, keycaps alone is around $80... I thought it's going to be cheaper lol
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Those are ABS! Get my PBT better la!
got 7G some more....

btw, if I keep on promoting my keyboard here, will I get banned @@ sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 9 2012, 11:07 PM)
you are right, the enter are different weight already,
I think maybe will find all different weight if I test all keys  sweat.gif
and the Fn key is 51g =_=|||
is that because  of my scale are broken or the standard of Malaysia 1 cents are non standard?
also the possibility of the dome are different weight @@ rclxub.gif
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@kaysa - I like your experiments with Malaysian 1 sen coins - makes it more local smile.gif

Not sure if you have already read this thread: http://goo.gl/35zel

To cut a long story short, there is a theory that the rubber domes stiffen over time... like bicycle tyres. If true, this is not good news for owners of Topre switch keyboards. cry.gif

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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 9 2012, 11:43 PM)
has anyone here ordered from wasdkeyboard?

I kinda like their customize feature... not sure if they ship to malaysia tho
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Got my RGB modifier keycaps from wasdkb

they do ship to msia
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 9 2012, 10:27 PM)
Nice stuff you have there. The one more commonly found is the Goldtouch, which having the weird 00 keys... sweat.gif
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@Human10 - Yeah, that was exactly the reason why I didn't get a Goldtouch. I knew that the 00 key would drive me insane. This Kinesis numpad is what I consider a standard layout. It has also got independent Num Lock function, which was a big deal for me when I was using the Model M SSK. Not many USB numeric keypads on the market have independent Num Lock.
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ May 10 2012, 12:13 AM)
Got my RGB modifier keycaps from wasdkb

they do ship to msia
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i see....

hmm since you order keycaps alone, i guess warranty isn't an issue... im wondering how will i settle the warranty coverage in case i got unlucky >"<
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 10 2012, 12:10 AM)
@kaysa - I like your experiments with Malaysian 1 sen coins - makes it more local  smile.gif

Not sure if you have already read this thread: http://goo.gl/35zel

To cut a long story short, there is a theory that the rubber domes stiffen over time... like bicycle tyres. If true, this is not good news for owners of Topre switch keyboards.  cry.gif
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Ya I read that article before, but this 2nd hand HHKB I got is from 2006, which is 6 years ago.
IMO the stiffening is not as much as the one that they experimenting....
but I haven't try all keys yet, so can't be sure of that, and my scale are not the professional one,
that might not be accurate, just wait till I get something more accurate and test it out.
The A key and Fn key are most often used key in that post's opinion, but the A key on mine are not that much different,
if it is a 55g 6 years ago..... but if it is a 45g 6 years ago, then it has a 11gms different in between 6 years.

all in all, that the 1cents might not be accurate as well as the scale might not be accurate too.
We do not have a conclusion yet.
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 10 2012, 12:19 AM)
@Human10 - Yeah, that was exactly the reason why I didn't get a Goldtouch. I knew that the 00 key would drive me insane. This Kinesis numpad is what I consider a standard layout. It has also got independent Num Lock function, which was a big deal for me when I was using the Model M SSK. Not many USB numeric keypads on the market have independent Num Lock.
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 10 2012, 12:20 AM)
Ya I read that article before, but this 2nd hand HHKB I got is from 2006, which is 6 years ago.
IMO the stiffening is not as much as the one that they experimenting....
but I haven't try all keys yet, so can't be sure of that, and my scale are not the professional one,
that might not be accurate, just wait till I get something more accurate and test it out.
The A key and Fn key are most often used key in that post's opinion, but the A key on mine are not that much different,
if it is a 55g 6 years ago..... but if it is a 45g 6 years ago, then it has a 11gms different in between 6 years.

all in all, that the 1cents might not be accurate as well as the scale might not be accurate too.
We do not have a conclusion yet.
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i see....

hmm since you order keycaps alone, i guess warranty isn't an issue... im wondering how will i settle the warranty coverage in case i got unlucky >"<
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It is all backdown to your luck. But basically, a working keyboard out of board will remaing working for a long time(few years). A random dead when using is rare to occur.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 10 2012, 12:22 AM)
It is all backdown to your luck. But basically, a working keyboard out of board will remaing working for a long time(few years). A random dead when using is rare to occur.
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if few years is all it takes to make a keyboard go dead, i think it's quite bad tongue.gif

owell, i've contacted them, waiting for reply now...
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if few years is all it takes to make a keyboard go dead, i think it's quite bad tongue.gif

owell, i've contacted them, waiting for reply now...
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any mechanical keyboard(brown) with arm rest to recommend?
something like meka g1 or 7G smile.gif but with cherry brown
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what is wrist rest in chinese? i want to find a few in taobao sweat.gif
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any mechanical keyboard(brown) with arm rest to recommend?
something like meka g1 or 7G smile.gif but with cherry brown
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Mech KB with integrated arm rest is rare(wait for Ducky Shining's Wristrest may be?).

Have a check if CM Storm Trigger fit your taste then.


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what is wrist rest in chinese? i want to find a few in taobao sweat.gif
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手托

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 10 2012, 01:37 AM)
Mech KB with integrated arm rest is rare(wait for Ducky Shining's Wristrest may be?).

Have a check if CM Storm Trigger fit your taste then.


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手托
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interested on ducky dk1008(no backlight, marco or whatsoever), great kb come with a cheap price. but the arm rest is kinda "external" right..
many complain that black needs more force than red/brown in order to register the key, will pay a visit to a shop and try either black is suit me, if it does, hehe... more choices to make brows.gif
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QUOTE(melvintcs @ May 10 2012, 01:45 AM)
interested on ducky dk1008(no backlight, marco or whatsoever), great kb come with a cheap price. but the arm rest is kinda "external" right..
many complain that black needs more force than red/brown in order to register the key, will pay a visit to a shop and try either black is suit me, if it does, hehe... more choices to make  brows.gif
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The wristrest I stated in previous post is a intergrated wrist rest like SS7G style, ask Storm88 for details, as that is what we heard so far.

If you want cheaper options, taobao having much more choices.

Undeniable, hands on experience is the most important factor than all technical specifications and so on, good luck in your search.


Added on May 10, 2012, 1:49 amkaiserreich
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is having a numpad switches try program actually, if you can queue and willing to spend few ringgits(for shipping), you may ask him for details.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 10 2012, 01:48 AM)
The wristrest I stated in previous post is a intergrated wrist rest like SS7G style, ask Storm88 for details, as that is what we heard so far.

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eh?! the new ducky shining wrist rest would be like SS7G????
if that's the real deal... then... hmm.gif
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eh?! the new ducky shining wrist rest would be like SS7G????
if that's the real deal... then...  hmm.gif
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Wonder If have a picture if it?
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Tried using a mechanical keyboard , and I have to sat it's definitely different. So I was thinking of getting one. Any recommendation for the budget ones? Would there be any noticeable different between the cheap and expensive ones? Don't need any extra buttons or macro whatsoever, just a plain keyboard is nice.
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QUOTE(iddeen @ May 10 2012, 04:39 AM)
Tried using a mechanical keyboard , and I have to sat it's definitely different. So I was thinking of getting one. Any recommendation for the budget ones? Would there be any noticeable different between the cheap and expensive ones? Don't need any extra buttons or macro whatsoever, just a plain keyboard is nice.
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i'm looking for one too... i guess if you wanna go for the conventional brand, cm storm has several to choose, and steelseries,razer

on the other hand, wasdkeyboards has replied me and they do provide warranty for it... but the shipping is $48.85, jeez
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Switch Try Numpad is Ready !!!!


Anyone who wants to try them switches before buying anything, PM me and I'll add you to the list
To test is free, but you will need to pay shipping to the next person

Credits to Lucidlts for contribution to adding Red switches onto the board instead of my Ghetto Reds (Black + Brown Spring)

This numpad will allow you test out the keyfeel of the Cherry MX switches.
As to the noise part, the numpad has a rather hollow construction, and the noise has been amplified and makes a louder noise on the Clacking of the keys than other keyboards.

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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 10 2012, 03:29 AM)
eh?! the new ducky shining wrist rest would be like SS7G????
if that's the real deal... then...  hmm.gif
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the wristrest is 7G alike,
actualy wristrest finally will arrive by air next week.

Btw, i will post up a 3D picture later for you guys to have an idea how it looks


Added on May 10, 2012, 10:58 ambtw,
Ducky Dragon Edition is arriving soon by this month.

MSRP : RM550 +/-, Available in MX BLUE, BROWN, RED

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woah....RM550, anywhere i can book ?? going for 2 units =D
including wrist rest right?
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QUOTE(warlove3 @ May 10 2012, 12:02 PM)
woah....RM550, anywhere i can book ?? going for 2 units =D
including wrist rest right?
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Ducky Dragon Edition is a 80% kb. i'd love to free the wrist rest but it wont fit
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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 10 2012, 11:09 AM)
Ducky Dragon Edition is a 80% kb. i'd love to free the wrist rest but it wont fit
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80% keyboard? what u mean .. unsure.gif
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80% keyboard? what u mean .. unsure.gif
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80% means Tenkeyless smile.gif
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Tenkeyless. Marketing term for a keyboard which has the standard alphanumeric keys, FKeys along the top, page/up/down/etc, an inverted cursor T, but which lacks the numeric keypad for economy of space. This design has become increasingly popular over the years, as it makes positioning a mouse much easier, and many people rarely use the numeric keypad anyway.

AKA, no have numeric keypad, like CM rapid smile.gif is that rite?

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Tenkeyless. Marketing term for a keyboard which has the standard alphanumeric keys, FKeys along the top, page/up/down/etc, an inverted cursor T, but which lacks the numeric keypad for economy of space. This design has become increasingly popular over the years, as it makes positioning a mouse much easier, and many people rarely use the numeric keypad anyway.

AKA, no have numeric keypad, like CM rapid smile.gif is that rite?
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Bingo rclxms.gif
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Oh god... Mother of keyboards...

TKL RM550... *vomit blood*
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haha i'm using QFR, so no problem with tkl, maybe a special dragon edition wristrest ?? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 10 2012, 12:18 PM)
Oh god... Mother of keyboards...

TKL RM550... *vomit blood*
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i do feel it's abit pricy.. rclxub.gif Might do some cross promo if necessary


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haha i'm using QFR, so no problem with tkl, maybe a special dragon edition wristrest ?? biggrin.gif
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herm... it's an idea also

let me work it out and see how it goes smile.gif

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i'm looking for one too... i guess if you wanna go for the conventional brand, cm storm has several to choose, and steelseries,razer

on the other hand, wasdkeyboards has replied me and they do provide warranty for it... but the shipping is $48.85, jeez
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Oh, well, now you would not think my RM50 GdExpress Shipment is pricy now would you?
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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 10 2012, 10:56 AM)
the wristrest is 7G alike,
actualy wristrest finally will arrive by air next week.

Btw, i will post up a 3D picture later for you guys to have an idea how it looks


Added on May 10, 2012, 10:58 ambtw,
Ducky Dragon Edition is arriving soon by this month.

MSRP : RM550 +/-, Available in MX BLUE, BROWN, RED

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any idea of the price for the wristrest itself? it fix to 1008 and 9008?
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definitely not my type of dish. since im going for sanctuary keycaps, the bing is pretty much useless LOL.
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Oh, well, now you would not think my RM50 GdExpress Shipment is pricy now would you?
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LOL local shipping a lil different than overseas sweat.gif
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any idea of the price for the wristrest itself? it fix to 1008 and 9008?
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we don't design any wristrest for 1008 or standard 9008
if you need a non free wristrest, you may purchase a genuine leather wristrest at the shop which got sell Ducky keyboards.
around RM110+/-
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Storm88, sorry for out of topic but may i ask, what 3D printer are you using now? smile.gif
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Storm88, sorry for out of topic but may i ask, what 3D printer are you using now? smile.gif
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Reprap Prusa Mendal
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Reprap Prusa Mendal
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out of topic.. that machine has quite a mouthful name... lol prapraprap

Anyway, still no picture for the actual product for the Ducky dragon limited?
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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 10 2012, 12:20 PM)
Reprap Prusa Mendal
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Woot found another kaki here tongue.gif
Very rare hobby in Malaysia sad.gif

I have one set up at home, until i get all xyz movement, but havent actually calibrated and printed yet because right after setup, i had to go Japan for a long period. Was hoping I could print an enclosure (4 piece printing perhaps) for my future mechanical kb tongue.gif
I read that you are planning to upgrade to something >15k? What is it? 0.o
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I had never bought a mechanical keyboard before, so I was thinking on getting the CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid or the Razer BlackWidow Expert. Any opinion on these keyboards? Or should I just splurge more for a more expensive ones?
Will use it mainly for gaming, but occasionally some typing. Most of the time I type on my laptop.
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QUOTE(iddeen @ May 10 2012, 12:24 PM)
I had never bought a mechanical keyboard before, so I was thinking on getting the CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid or the Razer BlackWidow Expert. Any opinion on these keyboards? Or should I just splurge more for a more expensive ones?
Will use it mainly for gaming, but occasionally some typing. Most of the time I type on my laptop.
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if you support branding, you can go for CM, razer not much good IMO (blue switch only), other brand like ducky or filco can consider, cause they specialize on mkb, more switch choices
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QUOTE(iddeen @ May 10 2012, 12:24 PM)
I had never bought a mechanical keyboard before, so I was thinking on getting the CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid or the Razer BlackWidow Expert. Any opinion on these keyboards? Or should I just splurge more for a more expensive ones?
Will use it mainly for gaming, but occasionally some typing. Most of the time I type on my laptop.
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there are various type of switch, u really need to try out urself..
if i were u, i will choose CM
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Yeah, seems that there's various different kind of switch.
I saw a previous post about the Switch Try Numpad ? Should I join in and wait for my turn
Still very new in this mechanical keyboard, so never heard of Ducky or Filco. Are they readily available? And the thought of paying more than RM300 for a keyboard scares me.
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LOL local shipping a lil different than overseas  sweat.gif
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zzz this is GdExpress courier service, express, WASD keyboard uses standard shipment right?
if you want me to post it to u with standard postage also can,
if you would take the risk, won't be over RM20 I think.


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QUOTE(iddeen @ May 10 2012, 12:39 PM)
Yeah, seems that there's various different kind of switch.
I saw a previous post about the Switch Try Numpad ? Should I join in and wait for my turn
Still very new in this mechanical keyboard, so never heard of Ducky or Filco. Are they readily available? And the thought of paying more than RM300 for a keyboard scares me.
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don't let that small amount scare you brows.gif
wait until you see those Topre's crazy sh!t . cool2.gif

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 10 2012, 12:41 PM)
zzz this is GdExpress courier service, express, WASD keyboard uses standard shipment right?
if you want me to post it to u with standard postage also can,
if you would take the risk, won't be over RM20 I think.
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there are 2 to choose from:

Priority Mail International $48.85
Express Mail International $62.35
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QUOTE(iddeen @ May 10 2012, 12:39 PM)
Yeah, seems that there's various different kind of switch.
I saw a previous post about the Switch Try Numpad ? Should I join in and wait for my turn
Still very new in this mechanical keyboard, so never heard of Ducky or Filco. Are they readily available? And the thought of paying more than RM300 for a keyboard scares me.
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of coz, just PM kaiserreich, and he will put u in the queue.. just post it to next member after u have done.
u can easily find those keyboard at the garage sales smile.gif
Rm300? don't say it's expensive until u try them brows.gif


QUOTE(kaysa @ May 10 2012, 12:41 PM)
zzz this is GdExpress courier service, express, WASD keyboard uses standard shipment right?
if you want me to post it to u with standard postage also can,
if you would take the risk, won't be over RM20 I think.


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don't let that small amount scare you  brows.gif
wait until you see those Topre's crazy sh!t . cool2.gif
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hi, wonder if you customize the keycaps? smile.gif
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there are 2 to choose from:

Priority Mail International $48.85
Express Mail International $62.35
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are you gonna get that for real? doh.gif
good luck for that....

hmmm if you can wait, my sister in law from Penang are coming to My place next week, and she will be return to Penang next next week,
maybe an option for her to send it to you or COD you in Penang... need her to agree first, the keyboard is 2kg weight.
without the keycaps now selling RM350.00, hows that?
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 10 2012, 12:41 PM)
zzz this is GdExpress courier service, express, WASD keyboard uses standard shipment right?
if you want me to post it to u with standard postage also can,
if you would take the risk, won't be over RM20 I think.


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don't let that small amount scare you  brows.gif
wait until you see those Topre's crazy sh!t . cool2.gif
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For 400 I can get only their Numpad..
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QUOTE(iddeen @ May 10 2012, 12:39 PM)
Yeah, seems that there's various different kind of switch.
I saw a previous post about the Switch Try Numpad ? Should I join in and wait for my turn
Still very new in this mechanical keyboard, so never heard of Ducky or Filco. Are they readily available? And the thought of paying more than RM300 for a keyboard scares me.
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I suggest you try a variety of mechanical key switches to see what suits you. Everyone's taste is different - it's like clothes, cars, girls... you know what I mean, right? If you can spare a few ringgit for postage, the Switch Try Numpad is a good starting point. If you are in Penang (or Singapore), you are welcome to try my buckling springs keyboards (IBM Model Ms and Fs). I also have a Realforce 87U 45g and some keypads with Cherry MX black and brown switches. You are welcome to test these as well. Besides the feel of the switches, there are also things like keyboard layout, quality, and cost that you should consider.
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QUOTE(melvintcs @ May 10 2012, 12:50 PM)
hi, wonder if you customize the keycaps?  smile.gif

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Customize the keycaps you mean?
which one's keycaps?

The HHKB is black on black blank keycaps,
I put on a set of white and grey keycaps now.

The Steelseries have ABS keycaps, I put on Rainbow PBT keycaps,
but now selling it so I put the ABS back on.

The Leopold Red Switch have 86 PBT Purple on Black PBT keycaps,
which I originally brought for my Filco, and the filch are sold without these keycaps,
so I put them on my Leopold, but the Spacebar wouldn't fit, so it is the original ABS spacebar from Leopold.
thus 86 keys PBT mod, kindda weird.


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I suggest you try a variety of mechanical key switches to see what suits you. Everyone's taste is different - it's like clothes, cars, girls... you know what I mean, right? If you can spare a few ringgit for postage, the Switch Try Numpad is a good starting point. If you are in Penang (or Singapore), you are welcome to try my buckling springs keyboards (IBM Model Ms and Fs). I also have a Realforce 87U 45g and some keypads with Cherry MX black and brown switches. You are welcome to test these as well. Besides the feel of the switches, there are also things like keyboard layout, quality, and cost that you should consider.
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so what do you think of the Realforce 87 layout?
the numlock activate the number beside the Enter key right?
for imputing numbers or uses apps like calculators is it convenience?

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ain't all the keycaps are all the same? just the color different? (correct me if im wrong)

i plan to get ducky 1008 but i need to change few keys to red color(beside WASD), so wonder if you got sell them. or customize the kaycaps like have our own design on the print.

P/S: i have zero knowledge at keycaps smile.gif
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ain't all the keycaps are all the same? just the color different? (correct me if im wrong)

P/S: i have zero knowledge at keycaps smile.gif
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ain't all the keycaps are all the same? just the color different? (correct me if im wrong)

i plan to get ducky 1008 but i need to change few keys to red color(beside WASD), so wonder if you got sell them. or customize the kaycaps like have our own design on the print.

P/S: i have zero knowledge at keycaps smile.gif
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not at all!
there are different materials, like metal, plastic, even wood.
different printings method, like laser, drill, dye, print, subdye and etc

even in the plastic have varied type, like ABS, PBT, POM..
the most common one are ABS plastic, which most of the keyboards uses,
PBT are harder and more durable, and can sustain higher temperature, so they can use different method of printing method.
POM are the hardest plastic uses for keycaps, but some claim it is slippery...

some metal keycaps like Aluminum, Zinc and etc, and they have different printing way too,
I m not a huge fan of cold metal keycaps, so I do not know much about these.

wood keycaps are not that common in mechanical keyboards I think, so far I haven't seen any,
but I seen some normal keyboard with bamboo keycaps and wooden keycaps.

if you want customize print on the keycaps, you can order them from Taobao, each key are RM10.00++, before shipment.
you can have your own picture print on it, I think you can even choose the color of the keycaps,
but I think they uses only PBT, because the printing require heating the keycaps to certain temperature,
and it will not fade even heavily used.

if you are getting some keys, maybe we can order them together to save postage from China.
I have a few ideas of the keys designs myself.

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 10 2012, 01:13 PM)
not at all!
there are different materials, like metal, plastic, even wood.
different printings method, like laser, drill, dye, print, subdye and etc

even in the plastic have varied type, like ABS, PBT, POM..
the most common one are ABS plastic, which most of the keyboards uses,
PBT are harder and more durable, and can sustain higher temperature, so they can use different method of printing method.
POM are the hardest plastic uses for keycaps, but some claim it is slippery...

some metal keycaps like Aluminum, Zinc and etc, and they have different printing way too,
I m not a huge fan of cold metal keycaps, so I do not know much about these.

wood keycaps are not that common in mechanical keyboards I think, so far I haven't seen any,
but I seen some normal keyboard with bamboo keycaps and wooden keycaps.

if you want customize print on the keycaps, you can order them from Taobao, each key are RM10.00++, before shipment.
you can have your own picture print on it, I think you can even choose the color of the keycaps,
but I think they uses only PBT, because the printing require heating the keycaps to certain temperature,
and it will not fade even heavily used.

if you are getting some keys, maybe we can order them together to save postage from China.
I have a few ideas of the keys designs myself.
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i do feel it's abit pricy.. rclxub.gif  Might do some cross promo if necessary


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herm... it's an idea also

let me work it out and see how it goes smile.gif
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But it's backlit ability is 1st and unmatched in the market. Lets wait and see if the combination of BL ability(blink/press and shine) + Dragon year limited edition is enough to justify the high price.


Added on May 10, 2012, 2:02 pm
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For 400 I can get only their Numpad..
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ain't all the keycaps are all the same? just the color different? (correct me if im wrong)

i plan to get ducky 1008 but i need to change few keys to red color(beside WASD), so wonder if you got sell them. or customize the kaycaps like have our own design on the print.

P/S: i have zero knowledge at keycaps smile.gif
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Nope, not all keycaps are the same, in fact keycaps market is more serious business than mechanical kb itself.

It is back down into 3 main categories:
Height(profile), materials and printing.

Height most normally we saw DCS profile, but even the same DCS profile, you will find different manufacturer using different height.

Materials we normally saw 3 types of plastic, namely ABS, PBT and POM. ABS is the "weakest" and most common one found almost on every keyboard(and your LEGO, LOL). PBT and POM are harder than ABS, but PBT is more popular due to its texture and feel much better to be used as keycaps.

Printing methods are a long story, go google/GH it is faster than I type WOT here... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 10 2012, 01:59 PM)
But it's backlit ability is 1st and unmatched in the market. Lets wait and see if the combination of BL ability(blink/press and shine) + Dragon year limited edition is enough to justify the high price.


Added on May 10, 2012, 2:02 pm
Good that you know... laugh.gif


Added on May 10, 2012, 2:06 pm
Nope, not all keycaps are the same, in fact keycaps market is more serious business than mechanical kb itself.

It is back down into 3 main categories:
Height(profile), materials and printing.

Height most normally we saw DCS profile, but even the same DCS profile, you will find different manufacturer using different height.

Materials we normally saw 3 types of plastic, namely ABS, PBT and POM. ABS is the "weakest" and most common one found almost on every keyboard(and your LEGO, LOL). PBT and POM are harder than ABS, but PBT is more popular due to its texture and feel much better to be used as keycaps.

Printing methods are a long story, go google/GH it is faster than I type WOT here... sweat.gif
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can you please write down what DCS, ABS, PBT, POM, stands for? easy for me to google tongue.gif
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QUOTE(melvintcs @ May 10 2012, 02:13 PM)
can you please write down what DCS, ABS, PBT, POM, stands for? easy for me to google tongue.gif
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http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keycap_construction

on the other hand, I guess I'll go for quickfire rapid and buy blank keys separately since their layout is kinda standardized. sad leopold has no black switches in stock
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 10 2012, 12:55 PM)
so what do you think of the Realforce 87 layout?
the numlock activate the number beside the Enter key right?
for imputing numbers or uses apps like calculators is it convenience?
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Hi kaysa,

Yeah, the 87U has embedded numeric keypad, just like Model M SSK. I never use it. Call me old fashion but I just use the number keys on the top row. Of course, I have no such problems with the IBM Model F, my main driver, because it has its own numeric pad. I guess if I really had to use the 87U daily, I'd probably train myself to make use of the embedded numeric pad more. Then again, I still have a couple of USB keypads if necessary.

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Woah..
First you got the type of switches used, then you have the keycaps
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QUOTE(iddeen @ May 10 2012, 02:59 PM)
Woah..
First you got the type of switches used, then you have the keycaps
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im only feeling a taste of the poison atm, hopefully it will stay this way >"<
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ring dampeners, is there real use to it?
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first, you heard of mechanical keyboards and you google for it. Then you stumble upon Geekhack and Deskthority, and you to know more. Slowly you start to take part in the community.

Afterwards, you youtube for mechanical keyboards and then the urge of want-to-own comes and you check your bank acc. Testing out a real mechanical keyboard got you poisoned real hard, and you can no more control yourself.

After all those research and consideration, you bought home your very first mech keyboard. That's not the end, you'll look for more keyboards and accessories, key caps, wrist rests, switches, cases, bumbung, rare models etc...
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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ May 10 2012, 03:29 PM)
first, you heard of mechanical keyboards and you google for it. Then you stumble upon Geekhack and Deskthority, and you to know more. Slowly you start to take part in the community.

Afterwards, you youtube for mechanical keyboards and then the urge of want-to-own comes and you check your bank acc. Testing out a real mechanical keyboard got you poisoned real hard, and you can no more control yourself.

After all those research and consideration, you bought home your very first mech keyboard. That's not the end, you'll look for more keyboards and accessories, key caps, wrist rests, switches, cases, bumbung, rare models etc...
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LOL wrist rests are definitely out of the pic... but the rest... cry.gif
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If you value your money, then don't go to the group buys section at geekhack. So much temptations...
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I'm getting myself a first ever GH keycap:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30735-P...eycap-Group-Buy
and
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?29322-O...y-Key-Group-Buy

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will you let me tumpang your package?
I would like to have some of those "??" keys.
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 10 2012, 04:15 PM)
will you let me tumpang your package?
I would like to have some of those "??" keys.
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can also ba~ bah~ i ordered 2, one green base and one black base.. u want which?
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can also ba~ bah~ i ordered 2, one green base and one black base.. u want which?
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each is US$2 right? postage US$6... so we share the postage, and you send it to me with poslaju,
I want 2 each, 2 green base, 2 black base. lemme know who and how much to bank in.
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 10 2012, 04:21 PM)
each is US$2 right? postage US$6... so we share the postage, and you send it to me with poslaju,
I want 2 each, 2 green base, 2 black base. lemme know who and how much to bank in.
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he is having some paypal problem due to his other group buy, so we might have to wait news on this
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he is having some paypal problem due to his other group buy, so we might have to wait news on this
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ok.....
waiting news on every thing!! ZZ
cream cheese, Sanctuary, and now the riddler? keycap......
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 10 2012, 06:45 PM)
ok.....
waiting news on every thing!! ZZ
cream cheese, Sanctuary, and now the riddler? keycap......
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or maybe u want the cue ball + 9 ball design, like i ordered? brows.gif
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gh forum keeps getting problem, cant enter
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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 10 2012, 10:56 AM)
the wristrest is 7G alike,
actualy wristrest finally will arrive by air next week.

Btw, i will post up a 3D picture later for you guys to have an idea how it looks


Added on May 10, 2012, 10:58 ambtw,
Ducky Dragon Edition is arriving soon by this month.

MSRP : RM550 +/-, Available in MX BLUE, BROWN, RED

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wow.... if it's like 7G... then i am drool.gif
storm, the wristrest is for ducky shining only right? together with the purchase of ducky shining hmm.gif

QUOTE(Kenzany @ May 10 2012, 11:35 AM)
definitely not my type of dish. since im going for sanctuary keycaps, the bing is pretty much useless LOL.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 10 2012, 01:59 PM)
But it's backlit ability is 1st and unmatched in the market. Lets wait and see if the combination of BL ability(blink/press and shine) + Dragon year limited edition is enough to justify the high price.

but those skeptical at geekhack mentioned that the press and shine is kinda err.... useless...
and after i thought of it, i also agreed with them, and hopefully it can do "all lights up, when press, goes off, and then slowly lights up again"... then it would be thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 10 2012, 09:13 PM)
gh forum keeps getting problem, cant enter
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i cant see the keycaps.... how does it looks like??? T.T
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are there group buy for blank keycaps in taobao??
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 10 2012, 09:36 PM)
wow.... if it's like 7G... then i am  drool.gif
storm, the wristrest is for ducky shining only right? together with the purchase of ducky shining  hmm.gif
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but those skeptical at geekhack mentioned that the press and shine is kinda err.... useless...
and after i thought of it, i also agreed with them, and hopefully it can do "all lights up, when press, goes off, and then slowly lights up again"... then it would be  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
i cant see the keycaps.... how does it looks like??? T.T
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http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/bil...-buy-t2551.html
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 10 2012, 10:12 PM)
thanks thanks laugh.gif
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nice right? hope my order did get through and his paypal problem solved so that i can order, now got ppl tumpang my buy d~
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 10 2012, 10:32 PM)
nice right? hope my order did get through and his paypal problem solved so that i can order, now got ppl tumpang my buy d~
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only the billiard caps? yea.... they're kinda nice nod.gif
before this i saw you posted what riddler keycap??? hmm.gif
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peeps it's official, there is now a MECHANICAL SWITCH mouse ...

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Hellion is proof for that since it not only performs great and has a number of impressive features (5000DPI laser sensor, Cherry-MX Blue mechanical switch, Japanese switches by Omron, dedicated attack button, profile switch wheel, 16.8 million color illumination) but its design also looks a lot like Legion from Mass Effect 2/3 (Leetgion/Legion coincidence?) and at least for an Mass Effect fan such as myself that automatically means extra bonus points. However the Hellion was not designed with shooters (1st/3rd person) in mind but RTS games and more specifically StarCraft II.


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The review:
http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/peri...on-gaming-mouse

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 10 2012, 10:54 PM)
peeps it's official, there is now a MECHANICAL SWITCH mouse ...
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The review:
http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/peri...on-gaming-mouse
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huh?? mechanical switch on mouse??

btw anyone know where i can get 87 key blank caps besides wasd?
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I'll likely stick with my (3) DT225 trackballs for now, but if I ever need a mouse, that's got to be on the candidate list!
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are there group buy for blank keycaps in taobao??
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Buying things in taobao doesn't need any group buy. You just go search for the things you want, go find a taobao agent in LYN subforum, then pay your money and you are done.

FYI, the ABS blank keycaps will cost around RM30 and shipping probably took another RM10. It is recommended to purchase other misc. along as you had paid for 1kg worth of postage, while the keycap definitely not even reach 500g.

If you want PBT keycaps, it will require some efforts to search for it though. The price is estimated at around RM120+/- IIRC.


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peeps it's official, there is now a MECHANICAL SWITCH mouse ...
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

The review:
http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/peri...on-gaming-mouse
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Still more like a gimmick to be than real practical...

Mouse switch are normally less than 1mm travel, while cherry's mx switch's travel is minimum 2mm. Not too practical IMO.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 10 2012, 11:03 PM)
Buying things in taobao doesn't need any group buy. You just go search for the things you want, go find a taobao agent in LYN subforum, then pay your money and you are done.

FYI, the ABS blank keycaps will cost around RM30 and shipping probably took another RM10. It is recommended to purchase other misc. along as you had paid for 1kg worth of postage, while the keycap definitely not even reach 500g.

If you want PBT keycaps, it will require some efforts to search for it though. The price is estimated at around RM120+/- IIRC.


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Still more like a gimmick to be than real practical...

Mouse switch are normally less than 1mm travel, while cherry's mx switch's travel is minimum 2mm. Not too practical IMO.
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i see...

thanks for the info!
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only the billiard caps? yea.... they're kinda nice  nod.gif
before this i saw you posted what riddler keycap??? hmm.gif
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huh?? mechanical switch on mouse??

btw anyone know where i can get 87 key blank caps besides wasd?
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Spoonfeed version incase you need it... whistling.gif
Black/white color
http://www.shop64721861.taobao.com/?search=y

Multiple colors
http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?catId=18


Extra: On a side note, Keycool is now available in Taiwan at a "slightly" overpriced price, LOLOL...
http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?catId=288

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 10 2012, 11:13 PM)
Spoonfeed version incase you need it... whistling.gif
Black/white color
http://www.shop64721861.taobao.com/?search=y

Multiple colors
http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?catId=18
Extra: On a side note, Keycool is now available in Taiwan at a "slightly" overpriced price, LOLOL...
http://www.inpad.com.tw/goods.php?catId=288
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this is helpful.... thanks for the spoonfeed! rclxm9.gif
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found some half clear keycaps, and also clear ones
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300596787260?ssPag...984.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330718253069?ssPag...984.m1438.l2649
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 10 2012, 11:30 PM)
LOL, from QTAN...

Seriously, his items all get from China, and his price/postage isn't anywhere cheap either. He is more on doing business on westerner, where they can't or much pricy get stuffs from taobao.

For us, we can get some of those things at almost half of the price if we get it directly from taobao(even count in international shipping + agent's commission, still much cheaper).

P/S: Another seller is feng(in GH). He is from China too IIRC. He also get his stuffs from taobao/China and sell it for profits, but his price is still in the range of acceptable.

P.P/S: I know that sellers sell for profit, but too much profit is simply a rip-off...

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 10 2012, 11:39 PM)
LOL, from QTAN...

Seriously, his items all get from China, and his price/postage isn't anywhere cheap either. He is more on doing business on westerner, where they can't or much pricy get stuffs from taobao.

For us, we can get some of those things at almost half of the price if we get it directly from taobao(even count in international shipping + agent's commission, still much cheaper).

P/S: Another seller is feng(in GH). He is from China too IIRC. He also get his stuffs from taobao/China and sell it for profits, but his price is still in the range of acceptable.

P.P/S: I know that sellers sell for profit, but too much profit is simply a rip-off...
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i'm only interested in similar product, not thinking of buying from anywhere yet, just a POI
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 10 2012, 11:43 PM)
i'm only interested in similar product, not thinking of buying from anywhere yet, just a POI
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Ok. BTW, the cheapest price for them I saw in TB b4 is 100RMB, which translate into around RM60.

BTW, the KBC Rainbow POM is even better looking.
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Some interesting stuffs.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14555621189
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or maybe u want the cue ball + 9 ball design, like i ordered? brows.gif
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for the "??" I will wait as long as it will come at last.
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HHKB looks amazing... i cant find any seller at garage sales?
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Hi guys, are all those keycaps universal? Can I use it on Ducky 9008s ?
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HHKB looks amazing...  i cant find any seller at garage sales?
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Bro, the thing is made in Japan.

Somemore any man with sense will know that there is practically no market for a not fullsize + plain looking keyboard cost over RM1k in Malaysia...
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HHKB looks amazing...  i cant find any seller at garage sales?
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Hi guys, are all those keycaps universal? Can I use it on Ducky 9008s ?
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As long as the keycaps are made for Cherry MX switches and the profile+height are the same. It will fit.
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Bro, the thing is made in Japan.

Somemore any man with sense will know that there is practically no market for a not fullsize + plain looking keyboard cost over RM1k in Malaysia...
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yes, indeed... very low demand here since the key is all too "compact", i can see it's good for typing?
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yes, indeed... very low demand here since the key is all too "compact", i can see it's good for typing?
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Don't know. If you want a similar footprint keyboard, you can try KBC Poker or KBT Pure, they should be more affordable... sweat.gif
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im using half clear keycaps on NON-backlit kb cuz the backlit effect is not as nice as those full clear keycaps

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Get from Taobao, expect to spend at least RM1000 on it.

QUOTE(melvintcs @ May 11 2012, 01:19 AM)
yes, indeed... very low demand here since the key is all too "compact", i can see it's good for typing?
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Initially I couldn't even tell the difference
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damm, taobao so many options, cant decide

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 11 2012, 08:35 AM)
Get from Taobao, expect to spend at least RM1000 on it.
I find typing on the HHKB to be a wonderful experience.
Initially I couldn't even tell the difference
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ur hand not need to move too much, everything is right there, just with some key-combination...
but i found out that is the problem also, lets say u eating an ice-cream with right hand and u wanted to press ESC, arrow key, or printscreen, it's kinda trouble tongue.gif
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or maybe u want the cue ball + 9 ball design, like i ordered? brows.gif
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Bro,

I'm interested in this Billiards Double Shot Keycaps.
Can I join your tumpang? biggrin.gif
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Bro,

I'm interested in this Billiards Double Shot Keycaps.
Can I join your tumpang?  biggrin.gif
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i think still got time to add order de~
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i think still got time to add order de~
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how much is the billard sets? In Ringgit if you can.....
this poison is getting into me now ZZZ
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http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30735-P...eycap-Group-Buy

check here for the current standing of 1-9 Ball + Cue, it is now at 12.80 USD, roughly RM40 for the set not including postage, postage at USD 20, so be roughly RM60


Added on May 11, 2012, 12:06 pmthey are closing up tomorrow, so i need to confirm you guys amount needed

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 11 2012, 12:04 PM)
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30735-P...eycap-Group-Buy

check here for the current standing of 1-9 Ball + Cue, it is now at 12.80 USD, roughly RM40 for the set not including postage, postage at USD 20, so be roughly RM60


Added on May 11, 2012, 12:06 pmthey are closing up tomorrow, so i need to confirm you guys amount needed
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Dammit, Get me a set of those. and the "??" 2 black base 2 green base, let me know the total tonight, and I will bank in for you.
tonight I might not be on-line, but place the order for me, will pay you tomorrow if I can't tonight..
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 11 2012, 01:41 PM)
Dammit, Get me a set of those. and the "??" 2 black base 2 green base, let me know the total tonight, and I will bank in for you.
tonight I might not be on-line, but place the order for me, will pay you tomorrow if I can't tonight..
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riddler cant do yt, his financial issue unsolved, we get billiard first la
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no interested on the balls and the riddle, let me know if anyone ordering starcraft keycaps brows.gif


Added on May 11, 2012, 1:55 pmi wonder how's the billiard's keycaps look like ..

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QUOTE(melvintcs @ May 11 2012, 01:54 PM)
no interested on the balls and the riddle, let me know if anyone ordering starcraft keycaps brows.gif


Added on May 11, 2012, 1:55 pmi wonder how's the billiard's keycaps look like ..
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Username = molto
Password = 12345
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30735-P...eycap-Group-Buy

go check it out yourself. it look quite nice after seeing it for some time.


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riddler cant do yt, his financial issue unsolved, we get billiard first la
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ok ok, billiard it is.

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i have the id already i saw this?

picture
haha, no have the actual picture? tongue.gif

but after i google, i saw this


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i have the id already i saw this?

picture
haha, no have the actual picture? tongue.gif

but after i google, i saw this
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It's not made yet! there won't be a actual pict if it is not done making!

haha, the keyboard poison is kicking in to you now!
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 11 2012, 04:03 PM)
It's not made yet! there won't be a actual pict if it is not done making!

haha, the keyboard poison is kicking in to you now!
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haha, c'mon man, i not even have the mech kb yet cry.gif
the F13to F15 is for the page down/up/insert i assume?
it looks nice drool.gif but think gotta give it a pass this time smile.gif
remember to post the picture after u get the item brows.gif
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Really I have to stop browsing the Geekhack's group buy section.....
I saw the hammer and sickle and Pi keycaps now.......
I HAVE TO STOP!!! NO!!!!
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 11 2012, 04:17 PM)
Really I have to stop browsing the Geekhack's group buy section.....
I saw the hammer and sickle and Pi keycaps now.......
I HAVE TO STOP!!! NO!!!!
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yeah i also quite like that keycap too, but dun feel like buying it
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Really I have to stop browsing the Geekhack's group buy section.....
I saw the hammer and sickle and Pi keycaps now.......
I HAVE TO STOP!!! NO!!!!
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I don't even have a real Cherry MX board but I was still eyeing the hammer and sickle keycap for a while... crazy to buy a keyboard just to fit caps onto them. So far, I've been pretty good resisting temptation to go into Cherry keyboards. Then again, I've been buying BS keyboards... doh.gif
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 11 2012, 05:39 PM)
I don't even have a real Cherry MX board but I was still eyeing the hammer and sickle keycap for a while... crazy to buy a keyboard just to fit caps onto them. So far, I've been pretty good resisting temptation to go into Cherry keyboards. Then again, I've been buying BS keyboards... doh.gif
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Compare to BS Keyboards, the Cherry might have too much "Gimmicks" for modding rclxub.gif keycaps is just one of it.
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 11 2012, 06:52 PM)
Compare to BS Keyboards, the Cherry might have too much "Gimmicks" for modding  rclxub.gif keycaps is just one of it.
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You can mod the hell out of BS if you want to.
Cases, springs, bolt mod, stickers, keycaps, or else, get a NIB M15.
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You can mod the hell out of BS if you want to.
Cases, springs, bolt mod, stickers, keycaps, or else, get a NIB M15.
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Kaiser, a NIB M15 is like nearly reaching BS nirvana, second only to a NIB Model F AT. I'd actually settle for the M15/M14 that have been on sale on eBay. In fact, the M14 numeric pad is even more enticing that the M15. The price has been prohibitive though... time to work hard so that I find another grateful student. laugh.gif

After my recent "fun" with getting rid of every single bit of rust from the inside of my Model F and painting it, I would appreciate a bit of a break from any serious modding. The result is quite satisfactory though.

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how long does it normally take to reach me if i order from taobao?

im kinda having trouble with them since i dont understand chinese at all... google translate doesnt work much either >"<

there are some nice keycaps in geekhack, but since it's US, it's gonna take weeks to reach sad.gif
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yohoo~ another interest check on nyan cat keycaps, might jump in for one..
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 11 2012, 08:40 PM)
how long does it normally take to reach me if i order from taobao?

im kinda having trouble with them since i dont understand chinese at all... google translate doesnt work much either >"<

there are some nice keycaps in geekhack, but since it's US, it's gonna take weeks to reach sad.gif
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Average of 1week time starting from agent placed the order. Can be faster and later.
Shipping within China normally around 1-2days. Transit to Malaysia around 1-2days. Local courier slacking another 1-2days. Subjected to delay especially when met with long holidays... sweat.gif

As for not understanding Chinese part, feel free to ask for help here, we are willing to help. Just roughly tell us what you search for, and we will direct the links to you.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 11 2012, 10:37 PM)
Average of 1week time starting from agent placed the order. Can be faster and later.
Shipping within China normally around 1-2days. Transit to Malaysia around 1-2days. Local courier slacking another 1-2days.
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I see...

saw this on geekhack: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?28953

seems interesting biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 11 2012, 08:40 PM)
how long does it normally take to reach me if i order from taobao?

im kinda having trouble with them since i dont understand chinese at all... google translate doesnt work much either >"<

there are some nice keycaps in geekhack, but since it's US, it's gonna take weeks to reach sad.gif
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zzz have you not given up on getting from other place than Malaysia?

most of the time I placed order from Cutieangel, seller provide proxy service from Taobao,
just copy the link of the item, paste it on her topic, and question and description of item, color etc, then she will answer you and let you know the pricing very soon, then after you paid her the amount she requested, she will start placing order to the seller in China,

the item(s) usually reach me within 2 weeks, since they place the order for us, and wait the seller to send the item pack in parcel to their collecting center in China, then they will just pack another envelope on the current one, and write your address and send it to you.
for my case of Cutieangel, the item are devided by 1.85, from the price RMB + the shipment in RMB, then charges from China collecting center to Malyasia is RM12 per Kilogram, in which Keyboards are mostly over 1kG with packing, if you do not want the item to damage in the postage, most of the time they mave multiple layers of packing to avoide that. all of my items reach me safely, no damage at all.

just some time the local courier service taking over the item and handle them stupidly, they send to me at the time I m not at home.
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 11 2012, 10:40 PM)
I see...

saw this on geekhack: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?28953

seems interesting biggrin.gif
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They are called KBC engraved black PBT. Made by KBC so it should be cheaper in taobao than GH or any other places.
The price range from around 150RMB+, cause it is PBT, thus much pricier than ABS.

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 11 2012, 10:41 PM)
zzz have you not given up on getting from other place than Malaysia?

most of the time I placed order from Cutieangel, seller provide proxy service from Taobao,
just copy the link of the item, paste it on her topic, and question and description of item, color etc, then she will answer you and let you know the pricing very soon, then after you paid her the amount she requested, she will start placing order to the seller in China,

the item(s) usually reach me within 2 weeks, since they place the order for us, and wait the seller to send the item pack in parcel to their collecting center in China, then they will just pack another envelope on the current one, and write your address and send it to you.
for my case of Cutieangel, the item are devided by 1.85, from the price RMB + the shipment in RMB, then charges from China collecting center to Malyasia is RM12 per Kilogram, in which Keyboards are mostly over 1kG with packing, if you do not want the item to damage in the postage, most of the time they mave multiple layers of packing to avoide that. all of my items reach me safely, no damage at all.

just some time the local courier service taking over the item and handle them stupidly, they send to me at the time I m not at home.
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thanks for the user that provides proxy service...

I also got find in taobao, just abit harder since im not chinese educated sweat.gif

im just expanding my findings thumbup.gif
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is it me or GH really hard to get in? keep cant open site
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 11 2012, 10:45 PM)
They are called KBC engraved black PBT. Made by KBC so it should be cheaper in taobao than GH or any other places.
The price range from around 150RMB+, cause it is PBT, thus much pricier than ABS.
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afaik, this one isn't engraved, the seller just use the pic for reference purpose...

it's a blank pbt keycaps
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afaik, this one isn't engraved, the seller just use the pic for reference purpose...

it's a blank pbt keycaps
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Hmm, for fullset blank black PBT, I can't deny it is indeed a little rare. sweat.gif
But there is easier and nicer(subjective) options out there, blue thick PBT by KBC, check out IMSTO's(in GH) posts for details.
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is it me or GH really hard to get in? keep cant open site
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You're not the only one. It timed-out for me. That site has been experiencing networking issues for some time. I never bothered to find out more. I'm guessing DT is enjoying the extra traffic.
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You're not the only one. It timed-out for me. That site has been experiencing networking issues for some time. I never bothered to find out more. I'm guessing DT is enjoying the extra traffic.
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nt sure if i wanna place orders there anymore, malfunction forum, eww
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 11 2012, 10:55 PM)
Hmm, for fullset blank black PBT, I can't deny it is indeed a little rare. sweat.gif
But there is easier and nicer(subjective) options out there, blue thick PBT by KBC, check out IMSTO's(in GH) posts for details.
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I see...

btw... blank = 空白 ?
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nt sure if i wanna place orders there anymore, malfunction forum, eww
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I got a bit of a scare once because I thought I lost the PMs from my buyers. But I got everything backed up, so I'm OK now. For me, there cannot be anything worse than losing the orders and people's contact details.
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I see...

btw... blank = 空白 ?
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yes
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I see...

btw... blank = 空白 ?
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Not really, a closer definition/translation is 无刻
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geekhack seems to always be down....

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@ Epiguru: Hmmmm I saw that you are dying some keycaps, are you only able to dye PBT keycaps? or is it possible to dye even ABS keycaps? I m thinking of dying a set of white keycaps to Yellow for my Leopold FC500R if it is possible to dye ABS then it is great, but if if I can only dye PBT, there isn't any Spacebar for LEOPOLD FC500R made of PBT right?
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@ Epiguru: Hmmmm I saw that you are dying some keycaps, are you only able to dye PBT keycaps? or is it possible to dye even ABS keycaps? I m thinking of dying a set of white keycaps to Yellow for my Leopold FC500R if it is possible to dye ABS then it is great, but if if I can only dye PBT, there isn't any Spacebar for LEOPOLD FC500R  made of PBT right?
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Hi kaysa,

I've done a bit of "research" on dyeing Model M PBT keycaps - it takes a lot of time and patience. But after a while, the process gets easier. I've never tried any ABS keycaps - I suspect they warp more easily. Warping is the major risk, I suppose, so temperature control has got to be right. I'm very confident about PBT keycaps but not ABS. My major problem is that I don't have the time to do that sort of thing. Hopefully, toward the end of the year, I will be more free to indulge in my hobbies. I don't mind dyeing some keycaps for you guys especially if I am doing some for myself too. I have to wait and see if I can find vacation time.

I don't own a Leopold, so I cannot comment about the availability of PBT spacebars for Leopold. Sorry.

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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 11 2012, 11:57 PM)
Hi kaysa,

I've done a bit of "research" on dyeing Model M PBT keycaps - it takes a lot of time and patience. But after a while, the process gets easier. I've never tried any ABS keycaps - I suspect they warp more easily. Warping is the major risk, I suppose, so temperature control has got to be right. I'm very confident about PBT keycaps but not ABS. My major problem is that I don't have the time to do that sort of thing. Hopefully, toward the end of the year, I will be more free to indulge in my hobbies. I don't mind dyeing some keycaps for you guys especially if I am doing some for myself too. I have to wait and see if I can find vacation time.
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I have no problem waiting biggrin.gif just let me know when you dying another batch of keycaps.

Additional Questions:
is it possible to dye even if the keycaps have legend on?
and is it possible to get a PBT Spacebar that can dye and fit Leopold Fc500R at the same time?
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As you know, IBM/Lexmark/Unicomp keycaps are high-quality Dye-sublimated PBTs. I think it's for this reason I've not encountered any problem with the legends fading or coming off - see the example on my website: http://goo.gl/uknIh. I think it should all be fine, even if it was lasered.

Like I said, I cannot comment about Leopold spacebars - the gurus around here should be able to tell us.

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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 12 2012, 12:11 AM)
As you know, IBM/Lexmark/Unicomp keycaps are high-quality Dye-sublimated PBTs. I think it's for this reason I've not encountered any problem with the legends fading or coming off - see the example on my website: http://goo.gl/uknIh. I think it should all be fine, even if it was lasered.

Like I said, I cannot comment about Leopold spacebars - the gurus around here should be able to tell us.
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The Esc key is done very nicely, that's what I saw and inspired me to get my keys dye.
Just let me know before you are dying another batch, so I can prep the keycaps for you,
or if it isn't too much a trouble for you, you can prep the keycaps for me thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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@kaysa - No problem, I'll contact you when I can resume dyeing keycaps again. I do this for recreation, so it's fun and relaxing for me. smile.gif
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Epiguru, take a look at this:
http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22577
This is a sample of dying some ABS,
I think it would work for Keycaps too, right?

This guy here mention Acetone, I m not sure what that is,
and Rit dye, is that a brand or certain type of dye type?

and tempreture 60c to 40c, pretty fast too.
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Is keycool's keycaps compatible with quickfire rapid? i think filco's is but keycool caps seems to be cheaper in taobao...
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 12 2012, 12:31 AM)
Epiguru, take a look at this:
http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22577
This is a sample of dying some ABS,
I think it would work for Keycaps too, right?

This guy here mention Acetone, I m not sure what that is,
and Rit dye, is that a brand or certain type of dye type?

and tempreture 60c to 40c, pretty fast too.
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I suppose the ABS he used is the same or similar to the ABS of keycaps. I've read somewhere that people have successfully dyed ABS keycaps. I just haven't tried it.

Acetone is a chemical/solvent - the same stuff used in nail polish remover. If you have ever seen your wife/gf/mother/sister use it, you will know what I mean. When I found out paint remover MAY contain acetone, I got rid of the can because I was afraid that the acetone might eat into the plastic of my keyboard parts (I wanted to remove paint from some internal parts of my keyboard). So I think the guy was brave to use acetone. I can see how it helps the ABS to take the dye but I will never use it myself.

Rit is a brand of dye common in the US but cannot be found here. My substitute is Dylon, which is widely available in Malaysia and a very good product. Dylon is made in the UK.

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Is keycool's keycaps compatible with quickfire rapid? i think filco's is but keycool caps seems to be cheaper in taobao...
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Should be, just that the spacebar can't fit and got one extra windowed keys but lack of one non-windowed key.
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 12 2012, 01:14 AM)
I suppose the ABS he used is the same or similar to the ABS of keycaps. I've read somewhere that people have successfully dyed ABS keycaps. I just haven't tried it.

Acetone is a chemical/solvent - the same stuff used in nail polish remover. If you have ever seen your wife/gf/mother/sister use it, you will know what I mean. When I found out paint remover MAY contain acetone, I got rid of the can because I was afraid that the acetone might eat into the plastic of my keyboard parts (I wanted to remove paint from some internal parts of my keyboard). So I think the guy was brave to use acetone. I can see how it helps the ABS to take the dye but I will never use it myself.

Rit is a brand of dye common in the US but cannot be found here. My substitute is Dylon, which is widely available in Malaysia and a very good product. Dylon is made in the UK.
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Thanks for the info,

Not that I have any sisters, nor had a girlfriend, and my mother never uses nail polish..... no wonder I have no idea what acetone is.

Hmm, eat into the plastic huh? I think that's how they dye the keycaps, per what he mention in the youtube video descriptions, the dye wouldn't stick without the acetone....
but will it go as far as corrosion to the plastics? and even after the dyes, how long will it last?

And what about your PBT Keycaps? how was their durabilities?
you used salt and vinegar? what are the effect of those 2? if do without what will happen to it?

Is the color coming off from the keycaps? I wonder what is there different effect of the acetone on the ABS keycaps and PBT keycaps....
come to think of it, the keycaps dyed in China are said to be easily build up dirts, maybe when they dye it, the surface are lightly etched by the acetone.
so the dirt tend to build up easier in the small microscopic holes on the surface, I think that's what it meant.

I have a set of white blank Keycool coming to me soon I think I will have them dye with the acetone method, the keycaps doesn't cost much anyway.


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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 12 2012, 12:31 AM)
Is keycool's keycaps compatible with quickfire rapid? i think filco's is but keycool caps seems to be cheaper in taobao...
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lol, if the spacebar can't fit, sell it to me!
For the spacebar you already have one, and it doesn't matter it fit or not,
because even for the printed one it doesn't have any printing on it.

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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 12 2012, 12:47 PM)
Thanks for the info,

Not that I have any sisters, nor had a girlfriend, and my mother never uses nail polish..... no wonder I have no idea what acetone is.

Hmm, eat into the plastic huh? I think that's how they dye the keycaps, per what he mention in the youtube video descriptions, the dye wouldn't stick without the acetone....
but will it go as far as corrosion to the plastics? and even after the dyes, how long will it last?

And what about your PBT Keycaps? how was their durabilities?
you used salt and vinegar? what are the effect of those 2? if do without what will happen to it?

Is the color coming off from the keycaps? I wonder what is there different effect of the acetone on the ABS keycaps and PBT keycaps....
come to think of it, the keycaps dyed in China are said to be easily build up dirts, maybe when they dye it, the surface are lightly etched by the acetone.
so the dirt tend to build up easier in the small microscopic holes on the surface, I think that's what it meant.

I have a set of white blank Keycool coming to me soon I think I will have them dye with the acetone method, the keycaps doesn't cost much anyway.


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lol, if the spacebar can't fit, sell it to me!
For the spacebar you already have one, and it doesn't matter it fit or not,
because even for the printed one it doesn't have any printing on it.
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I think people use acetone like an etching agent, it cuts into the plastic so the plastic takes the dye easier. But I just can't stand the idea of the PBT getting dissolved by acetone. Yikes! I used salt and vinegar because I thought it was harmless - when you add both these things, the consistency of the solution becomes a little thicker faster. I don't add much water anyway. Using my method, the dye penetrates the PBT quite a lot. I strongly doubt it will ever fade. It's just like dye sublimation - the legends stay on forever. The more times you dye the keycap, the deeper and richer the colour. It's not like painting, whereby there is a layer that can peel off. You can try without salt and vinegar... just be prepared to wait a looooong time. I believe if you have a lot of patience, you can dye your caps without too much heat and without added stuff (acetone, vinegar, salt).

PBT is pretty durable but it's still possible to warp the thing if the temperature gets too high. So be careful. Done properly, dyeing PBT should not affect the structure of the plastic.

Your theory about the small holes created by Acetone makes sense - once the surface layer of the plastic is destroyed, it may attract dirt and other stuff. To my mind, the dyeing process causes the dye to penetrate the plastic (don't ask me how) without affecting the integrity of the plastic.


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QUOTE(joyformidable @ May 12 2012, 12:47 PM)
hey epi guru mind pm-ing me ur technique?? i wanna try it smile.gif
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I definitely need to sit down to document the whole process. It won't be for a few weeks; I should be able to do this before the end of June. The info will be shared with everyone - the process is quite "simple" in theory but in reality, you'll need to be patient and get ready to "sacrifice" some keycaps while you are learning. It's just like any other skill that you pick up.
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i think u get from taobao better?
feel like that website is not that reliable sad.gif
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 12 2012, 01:54 PM)
I think people use acetone like an etching agent, it cuts into the plastic so the plastic takes the dye easier. But I just can't stand the idea of the PBT getting dissolved by acetone. Yikes! I used salt and vinegar because I thought it was harmless - when you add both these things, the consistency of the solution becomes a little thicker faster. I don't add much water anyway. Using my method, the dye penetrates the PBT quite a lot. I strongly doubt it will ever fade. It's just like dye sublimation - the legends stay on forever. The more times you dye the keycap, the deeper and richer the colour.  It's not like painting, whereby there is a layer that can peel off. You can try without salt and vinegar... just be prepared to wait a looooong time. I believe if you have a lot of patience, you can dye your caps without too much heat and without added stuff (acetone, vinegar, salt).

PBT is pretty durable but it's still possible to warp the thing if the temperature gets too high. So be careful. Done properly, dyeing PBT should not affect the structure of the plastic.

Your theory about the small holes created by Acetone makes sense - once the surface layer of the plastic is destroyed, it may attract dirt and other stuff. To my mind, the dyeing process causes the dye to penetrate the plastic (don't ask me how) without affecting the integrity of the plastic.
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So that is possible to dye without any etching agent you mean?
if I put all the keycaps in a seal bottle with all the dye with salt and vinegar for a month or so, It will stick permanently?
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 12 2012, 02:09 PM)
iMav gave an update - he's had some serious hardware issues related to the RAM. Not sure when the problem will be resolved because downtime and rollbacks seem to be quite frequent. Posts and PMs are going missing. I don't mind losing posts and I back up my PMs so I still have all the important info with me.
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It's quite frustrating with the rollback.
Chip in some for the donation. If anyone uses it a lot, should consider contributing to the geekhack server costs tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 12 2012, 02:12 PM)
It's quite frustrating with the rollback.
Chip in some for the donation. If anyone uses it a lot, should consider contributing to the geekhack server costs tongue.gif
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with such lousy server, neh, contributing to them will feel like being conned
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with such lousy server, neh, contributing to them will feel like being conned
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Flaky hardware has been removed and will be coming back with me tomorrow. Replacement hardware has going through significant burn in and testing to ensure stability.

Definitely some bad ram...not sure what else. I know that this past hardware upgrade is definitely the worst upgrade in GH history. wink.gif

We should be solid now.


iMav's response
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22652-D...ll=1#post590093

The donation was used to buy the bad RAM. Hopefully it's alright now.

I don't know why you have to be so negative about the donation. I don't think anyone, iMav included, would be pleased with roll back after roll back.
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 12 2012, 02:11 PM)
So that is possible to dye without any etching agent you mean?
if I put all the keycaps in a seal bottle with all the dye with salt and vinegar for a month or so, It will stick permanently?
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@kaysa - I think you will need some heat. You can forget about the salt and vinegar but not the heat... someone once suggested I put the whole lot in the microwave. I told them they can go and try with their own keycaps but I want control over what I do. Even if I spoil the keycaps, it's got to be on my terms. smile.gif
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 11 2012, 10:06 PM)
yohoo~ another interest check on nyan cat keycaps, might jump in for one..
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nyan cat keycaps? damn i missed the last one with dye sub pbt...
is this one also dye sub pbt or doubleshots??
you buying?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 12 2012, 02:16 PM)
iMav's response
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22652-D...ll=1#post590093

The donation was used to buy the bad RAM. Hopefully it's alright now.

I don't know why you have to be so negative about the donation. I don't think anyone, iMav included, would be pleased with roll back after roll back.
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No one who manages their own website(s) wants to see any problem. After you deal with the technical issues, you still have to face angry users (even those who use the site for free). I manage my own VPS, so I'm speaking from personal experience.

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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 12 2012, 04:28 PM)
No one who manages their own website(s) wants to see any problem. After you deal with the technical issues, you still have to face angry users (even those who use the site for free). I manage my own VPS, so I'm speaking from personal experience.
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why not they just find a hosting company hmm.gif
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why not they just find a hosting company hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 12 2012, 12:47 PM)
lol, if the spacebar can't fit, sell it to me!
For the spacebar you already have one, and it doesn't matter it fit or not,
because even for the printed one it doesn't have any printing on it.
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sadly this keyboard has the "QuickFire" word on the spacebar, which tbh is kinda ugly.. in fact, all the fonts on this keycaps are ugly to me =.="

this is kinda cheap... but may I know why the spacebar won't fit? izzit too long? or the mount is different position?
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 12 2012, 04:07 PM)
@kaysa - I think you will need some heat. You can forget about the salt and vinegar but not the heat... someone once suggested I put the whole lot in the microwave. I told them they can go and try with their own keycaps but I want control over what I do. Even if I spoil the keycaps, it's got to be on my terms.  smile.gif
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what is the correct temperature for dying the ABS then?
and for how long? you kept your PBT at 90c for 6 hours?
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 12 2012, 04:21 PM)
nyan cat keycaps? damn i missed the last one with dye sub pbt...
is this one also dye sub pbt or doubleshots??
you buying?? hmm.gif
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sadly this keyboard has the "QuickFire" word on the spacebar, which tbh is kinda ugly.. in fact, all the fonts on this keycaps are ugly to me =.="

this is kinda cheap... but may I know why the spacebar won't fit? izzit too long? or the mount is different position?
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you like black blank stuffs huh?
have you seen my HHKB with the Black Blank Keycaps on? brows.gif

for your keycool key sets, those are not the cheapest, the cheapest one are RMB50.00 I think, its in the keycool official taobao page,
I do not have the link now, my firefox are down and I don't know where is the bookmark stored.

For its spacebar, I m not sure it fit or not, but it is going to fit on Leopold FC500R series,
and most spacebar won't fit on Leopold FC500R,
so I presume that will not fit on CM Quickfire, just presume, not sure about that.

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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 12 2012, 04:50 PM)
sadly this keyboard has the "QuickFire" word on the spacebar, which tbh is kinda ugly.. in fact, all the fonts on this keycaps are ugly to me =.="

this is kinda cheap... but may I know why the spacebar won't fit? izzit too long? or the mount is different position?
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I'm on your boat bro

I was planning to buy a red switch quickfire rapid... but what's stopping me is the branding all over the keyboard.. that's very unprofessional.


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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 12 2012, 04:52 PM)
what is the correct temperature for dying the ABS then?
and for how long? you kept your PBT at 90c for 6 hours?
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For PBT, I will try 80 degrees Celsius first. If the dye is not taken up by the plastic, then increase slowly. Watch out for early signs of warping. And wait for a few hours at lower temperatures before bumping up the heat. This is a slow process. Don't be too aggressive too early. Also, I got someone to stir the thing constantly - the caps should not touch the bottom of the pot, or else...

I dunno about ABS. You have to Google for the minimum temperature that the ABS starts to warp.


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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 12 2012, 05:26 PM)
you like black blank stuffs huh?
have you seen my HHKB with the Black Blank Keycaps on?  brows.gif

for your keycool key sets, those are not the cheapest, the cheapest one are RMB50.00 I think, its in the keycool official taobao page,
I do not have the link now, my firefox are down and I don't know where is the bookmark stored.

For its spacebar, I m not sure it fit or not, but it is going to fit on Leopold FC500R series,
and most spacebar won't fit on Leopold FC500R,
so I presume that will not fit on CM Quickfire, just presume, not sure about that.
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yerp! prefer black and empty stuffs biggrin.gif.. mind showing a pic of your hhkb w/ the keycaps? biggrin.gif

wow there's even a RMB50 keycaps.... that's really cheap!!

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I'm on your boat bro

I was planning to buy a red switch quickfire rapid... but what's stopping me is the branding all over the keyboard.. that's very unprofessional.
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sadly this keyboard has the "QuickFire" word on the spacebar, which tbh is kinda ugly.. in fact, all the fonts on this keycaps are ugly to me =.="

this is kinda cheap... but may I know why the spacebar won't fit? izzit too long? or the mount is different position?
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Yup, that is the Keycool one I mentioned all this while.

The spacebar stem position is different, thus can't fit. May be you can consider other colors of spacebar? They are available singly in taobao at only 10RMB.

BTW, if you are getting CM Quickfire, get the 87 keys one instead of 104 keys. Because the 87 one having windowed keys for backlit for indicators LED, while 104 one don't, and so most other 104 keys set(including the FILCO one you asked).


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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 12 2012, 06:01 PM)
yerp! prefer black and empty stuffs biggrin.gif.. mind showing a pic of your hhkb w/ the keycaps? biggrin.gif

wow there's even a RMB50 keycaps.... that's really cheap!!
yeah.... but I figured since it won't be too hard to find keycaps, I just get it instead tongue.gif
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Actually, the 50RMB one is the RM30+10 one I stated to you in my previous post...

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I'm on your boat bro

I was planning to buy a red switch quickfire rapid... but what's stopping me is the branding all over the keyboard.. that's very unprofessional.
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well, i saw someone in a chinese forum wrapped carbon fiber sticker around the keyboard casing to eliminate the overbranding of CM.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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well, i saw someone in a chinese forum wrapped carbon fiber sticker around the keyboard casing to eliminate the overbranding of CM.... laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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And so many geekhackers did it too.

Seriously, I wonder if anyone actually like their overbranding... sweat.gif
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There's only 2 CM logos on my QFR since i change the keycaps, 3 if you count the one on the side.
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 12 2012, 08:34 PM)
well, i saw someone in a chinese forum wrapped carbon fiber sticker around the keyboard casing to eliminate the overbranding of CM.... laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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carbon fibre sticker sounds nice =D

by the way, what is the duration of the warranty for CM quickfire rapid?
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yerp! prefer black and empty stuffs biggrin.gif.. mind showing a pic of your hhkb w/ the keycaps? biggrin.gif

wow there's even a RMB50 keycaps.... that's really cheap!!
yeah.... but I figured since it won't be too hard to find keycaps, I just get it instead tongue.gif
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For PBT, I will try 80 degrees Celsius first. If the dye is not taken up by the plastic, then increase slowly. Watch out for early signs of warping. And wait for a few hours at lower temperatures before bumping up the heat. This is a slow process. Don't be too aggressive too early. Also, I got someone to stir the thing constantly - the caps should not touch the bottom of the pot, or else...

I dunno about ABS. You have to Google for the minimum temperature that the ABS starts to warp.
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what I found in wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylonitrile_butadiene_styrene
Generally ABS would have useful characteristics within a temperature range from -20 to 80 °C

any help with that? should I heat the dye liquid up to 80 °C then stand for a few hours, then let it cold down by its own?
ABS's melting point is 105°C thou, should have no problem boiling the liquid since the boiling point of water is 100°C only right?
or how about stewing it? with 2 pot, 1 small fill with water and boil them and 2nd pot in the middle, with the dye liquid......

Damn, I m starting to felt excited, I will definetly going to try this out.
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this might sound noob but i just realized that ducky's Fn key + F1 to F7 can control foobar without any extensions or programs
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 12 2012, 11:04 PM)
what I found in wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylonitrile_butadiene_styrene
Generally ABS would have useful characteristics within a temperature range from -20 to 80 °C

any help with that? should I heat the dye liquid up to 80 °C then stand for a few hours, then let it cold down by its own?
ABS's melting point is 105°C thou, should have no problem boiling the liquid since the boiling point of water is 100°C only right?
or how about stewing it? with 2 pot, 1 small fill with water and boil them and 2nd pot in the middle, with the dye liquid......

Damn, I m starting to felt excited, I will definetly going to try this out.
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Haha. Thanks for that info. I didn't know that stuff about ABS. How about you try around 70 deg first, and then slowly increase until the dye goes in or your keycaps melt? Give it a few hours before you increase the temperature. If you add extra stuff besides the dye in the solution, be careful. Remember your science class talking about adding salt to raise the boiling point? I have a German friend who told me he will never use water above 60 deg for his ABS caps... (just letting you know)

That double pot method may work (I guess) but, if I were you, I'd keep the temperature below 90 degrees. 100 seems too high. And I'll still stir the thing throughout the time it is in the solution. After you do your experiment, let us know the results. smile.gif
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QUOTE(epiguru @ May 13 2012, 12:00 AM)
Haha. Thanks for that info. I didn't know that stuff about ABS. How about you try around 70 deg first, and then slowly increase until the dye goes in or your keycaps melt? Give it a few hours before you increase the temperature. If you add extra stuff besides the dye in the solution, be careful. Remember your science class talking about adding salt to raise the boiling point? I have a German friend who told me he will never use water above 60 deg for his ABS caps... (just letting you know)

That double pot method may work (I guess) but, if I were you, I'd keep the temperature below 90 degrees. 100 seems too high. And I'll still stir the thing throughout the time it is in the solution. After you do your experiment, let us know the results.  smile.gif
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You are right, I have to check the temperature of double pot stewing the dye solution before really put the ABS keys in to the pot.
a few hour you say? how long exactly is it? is it visually seem ok mean ok?
I m now waiting the keycaps to arrive. hopefully it arrive before Diablo 3, if the Diablo 3 are here, I might abandon all other projects doh.gif

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i'm imagining a lot of keycaps of different theme all over the kb already
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Nothing much for now,
this is how it look like for now:

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those I ask you to get from Geekhack group buy can't fit onto this. doh.gif

But some I asked Epiguru to get from EK are gonna fit on. Will post some photos when got them.

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub...o2&pid=pdkb400b
•High durability PBT (polybutylene terephthalate) keycaps (Spacebar is ABS)

And, why the heck is the spacebar is ABS??? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 12 2012, 11:11 PM)
this might sound noob but i just realized that ducky's Fn key + F1 to F7 can control foobar without any extensions or programs
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 12 2012, 08:05 PM)
Yup, that is the Keycool one I mentioned all this while.

The spacebar stem position is different, thus can't fit. May be you can consider other colors of spacebar? They are available singly in taobao at only 10RMB.

BTW, if you are getting CM Quickfire, get the 87 keys one instead of 104 keys. Because the 87 one having windowed keys for backlit for indicators LED, while 104 one don't, and so most other 104 keys set(including the FILCO one you asked).


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Actually, the 50RMB one is the RM30+10 one I stated to you in my previous post...
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oh ya, your previous post the link seems unavailable >"<... erm, do u mean the windows key has some small transparent area for backlit? cause quickfire rapid dun have led for windows key... only got led for window lock, scroll lock and caps lock... somewhat like the keycool keypads linked...

QUOTE(rurushu @ May 12 2012, 08:34 PM)
well, i saw someone in a chinese forum wrapped carbon fiber sticker around the keyboard casing to eliminate the overbranding of CM.... laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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LOL i thought of doing the same thing, although I thought of using anime wallpaper instead of CF

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Here you go, don't regret what you ask for.
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wahhh nice.... sleek! i really prefer these kind of keyboards afterall biggrin.gif
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oh ya, your previous post the link seems unavailable >"<... erm, do u mean the windows key has some small transparent area for backlit? cause quickfire rapid dun have led for windows key... only got led for window lock, scroll lock and caps lock... somewhat like the keycool keypads linked...
LOL i thought of doing the same thing, although I thought of using anime wallpaper instead of CF
wahhh nice.... sleek! i really prefer these kind of keyboards afterall biggrin.gif
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I mean the windowed keys, not Windows key. Scroll lock and Caps lock need them.
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 13 2012, 02:25 AM)
oh ya, your previous post the link seems unavailable >"<... erm, do u mean the windows key has some small transparent area for backlit? cause quickfire rapid dun have led for windows key... only got led for window lock, scroll lock and caps lock... somewhat like the keycool keypads linked...
LOL i thought of doing the same thing, although I thought of using anime wallpaper instead of CF
wahhh nice.... sleek! i really prefer these kind of keyboards afterall biggrin.gif
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you can type without seeing the keyboard entirely? shocking.gif shocking.gif
i can only touch type to a certain level... cry.gif cry.gif


PS: why HHKB Pro2 sooooooo freaking expensive???? Around RM1k each..... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 13 2012, 02:54 AM)
I mean the windowed keys, not Windows key. Scroll lock and Caps lock need them.
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ohhh i get what you mean now... i guess it's fine since i dont really need the LED... in fact, i think it's a little bit annoying although it does give some *bling* effect haha


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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 13 2012, 03:04 AM)
you can type without seeing the keyboard entirely?  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
i can only touch type to a certain level... cry.gif  cry.gif
PS: why HHKB Pro2 sooooooo freaking expensive???? Around RM1k each..... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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haha... i guess it's because i started using computer at a very early age..

the HHKB looks nice, tho im still unsure of topre keys feeling... scared i might not like it >"<... gotta wait till kaiser is free to meet up tongue.gif

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Is KBC PBT spacebar compatible with Keycool 87 or not?
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ABS deforms very easily under high heat, please be aware of this issue.
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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ May 13 2012, 03:31 AM)
ABS deforms very easily under high heat, please be aware of this issue.
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Ok.... now I m not too sure of dying those keycaps......
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nyan cat keycaps are up for gb once again:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31224-G...e-sub-group-buy
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nyan cat keycaps are up for gb once again:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31224-G...e-sub-group-buy
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lol I was going to say that.
are you in Noobandroid? and how are the billards now?
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 13 2012, 11:27 AM)
lol I was going to say that.
are you in Noobandroid? and how are the billards now?
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i have started a bulk, but im not buying, it's in the same row as the billiards
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i have started a bulk, but im not buying, it's in the same row as the billiards
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I tot the billard is for the F1~F12 and Psc/Srq ScrLk & Pus/Brk roll ?
and the nyan cat can be on the roll with 1234567890-=\ and backspace?
I wonder how it will look together. brows.gif
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 13 2012, 11:52 AM)
I tot the billard is for the F1~F12 and Psc/Srq ScrLk & Pus/Brk roll ?
and the nyan cat can be on the roll with 1234567890-=\ and backspace?
I wonder how it will look together.  brows.gif
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they are on row 1, so is either F keys or number keys


Added on May 13, 2012, 12:01 pmjust open thread and got 1 order d, yay~

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Is KBC PBT spacebar compatible with Keycool 87 or not?
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Short answer, won't.
Long answer, won't without some mod.
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Haha, people here really getting into the keycaps more than the keyboard itself laugh.gif

Btw, any comments regarding the build quality of ducky shining? smile.gif Choosing between that and filco ninja.

Thx
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 13 2012, 02:05 PM)
Haha, people here really getting into the keycaps more than the keyboard itself laugh.gif

Btw, any comments regarding the build quality of ducky shining? smile.gif Choosing between that and filco ninja.

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It should be an easy decisions, isn't it?

Want more bling, go for Shining.
Want more clean and stealth look, go for Ninja.
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 13 2012, 02:05 PM)
Haha, people here really getting into the keycaps more than the keyboard itself laugh.gif

Btw, any comments regarding the build quality of ducky shining? smile.gif Choosing between that and filco ninja.

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No, i mean in terms of build quality, are there any major issues in those 2 keyboards stated?
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No, i mean in terms of build quality, are there any major issues in those 2 keyboards stated?
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this i leave to collectors to answer
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Did someone says blank keycaps?? LOL
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don't tell me........ shocking.gif
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what is that on the M key?
don't tell me........ shocking.gif
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lau nua rclxm9.gif
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I do not dare bring any liquid near my Mechanical keyboard man!
if it spill over the switches, its done for.
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I do not dare bring any liquid near my Mechanical keyboard man!
if it spill over the switches, its done for.
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split some 100 plus on my MJ2 while i was drunk... sent for rma... they din fix, the keys r still sticky!!!
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 13 2012, 09:44 PM)
thanks for telling me that, I will not buy it from you if you are selling it 2nd hand in the future.
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QUOTE(joyformidable @ May 13 2012, 09:40 PM)
split some 100 plus on my MJ2 while i was drunk... sent for rma... they din fix, the keys r still sticky!!!
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guess it's because it falls under abnormal usage? :/
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thanks for telling me that, I will not buy it from you if you are selling it 2nd hand in the future.
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guess it's because it falls under abnormal usage? :/
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QUOTE(joyformidable @ May 13 2012, 10:39 PM)
buahahahahaha. i doubt you;d want anything other than a topre tongue.gif


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lol. kinda fast actually, took less than 2 weeks. i was surprised..
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maybe the just check if all the keys works, then send back to you.
unlike my 6GV2, they replaced a new 1 for me
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lol... so fast also no point, coz your keyboard wasnt fixed.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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only few days after i bought the quickfire rapid, the keys are now starting to fade rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 13 2012, 10:58 PM)
only few days after i bought the quickfire rapid, the keys are now starting to fade  rclxm9.gif

CM never fails to meet my expectation at quality
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you bought your quickfire rapid? the tenkeyless one right?
legends so fast fade??? you must be typing with uber awesome lightning speed..... laugh.gif laugh.gif

PS: so now you just rub them off till it becomes blank? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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only few days after i bought the quickfire rapid, the keys are now starting to fade  rclxm9.gif

CM never fails to meet my expectation at quality
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 13 2012, 11:03 PM)
you bought your quickfire rapid? the tenkeyless one right?
legends so fast fade??? you must be typing with uber awesome lightning speed..... laugh.gif  laugh.gif

PS: so now you just rub them off till it becomes blank? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 13 2012, 11:03 PM)
you bought your quickfire rapid? the tenkeyless one right?
legends so fast fade??? you must be typing with uber awesome lightning speed..... laugh.gif  laugh.gif

PS: so now you just rub them off till it becomes blank? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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LOL not sure if it can be really blank, or will have some engraving remaining

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Show pics
Unless he show picts, I'm gonna assume he put sandpaper on his fingers when typing  tongue.gif
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here you go tongue.gif

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LOL not sure if it can be really blank, or will have some engraving remaining
here you go tongue.gif

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LOL not sure if it can be really blank, or will have some engraving remaining
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Try to use some dishwasher soap to clean it, don't rub, just soak and remove see if any improvements.
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 13 2012, 11:14 PM)
that one not shiny? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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nope not shiny

QUOTE(kaiserreich @ May 13 2012, 11:15 PM)
I suspect kotor fingers.
Try to use some dishwasher soap to clean it, don't rub, just soak and remove see if any improvements.
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note its not...

if you can see it right now, you can see some rough bumps which is also the paint, and underneath it is the faded legend

i dont have any epic dslr camera to really capture that, and my phone sucks so cant show u by image >"<
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QUOTE(kyrmian @ May 13 2012, 11:22 PM)
Can anyone tell me the difference between the switches in topre and the cherries?
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I have been uses the cherry a few months ago, and change to Topre recently.
Alot of people said its difficult to describe the touch of Topre switches,
I feel the same, but let me try to describe as best as I can.....

The switches has a very strong tactile feeling, like the membrance keyboards,
but it doesn't require to bottom out the keyo to register a key in,
and once you press the key, it has a very strong rebound, unlike membrance keyboards.
since the keypress doesn't bottom each registering key in, the sound of it are completely different
from any cherry switches, even you bottom out the key, the rubber dorm are not touching the PCB board,
or the steel board that mount the switches, thus not making loud noise when you do so.
but instead it make sound once you release the key,
I think that is due to the structure of the switches, there is a Plunger to connect the keycaps,
the plunger will hit the top of the housing of the switches, made a sound when you release the key.
In my opinion the overall built quality, the design and the quality control are better,
the keystrokes are more solid and firm when typing on them compare to the keyboard with cherry Mx switches.

the keycaps are PBT with sub-dye legend, the key surface are sleek and without grooves or dent feeling,
It's claim to be non fading.
Unlike the another Black PBT caps with purple print that I uses are now starting to fades,
not because of the dirt or kotor finger, even after I wash it, the charecters are not coming clear again.

anyway that's what I felt about the HHKB for these few weeks of usage,
hope these help.


Added on May 13, 2012, 11:55 pm
QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 13 2012, 10:58 PM)
only few days after i bought the quickfire rapid, the keys are now starting to fade  rclxm9.gif

CM never fails to meet my expectation at quality
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I saw you have some products from CM, so I actually presume that you will get CM at the end,
But the problem is that they did not gain their reputation for making keyboards,
like Corssair, its good at making RAM, but their keyboard are least of a choice for a true keyboard user.

But, hopefully that's like Kai said it's kotor fingers.
and your faith in CM restored.

This post has been edited by kaysa: May 13 2012, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 13 2012, 11:49 PM)
I saw you have some products from CM, so I actually presume that you will get CM at the end,
But the problem is that they did not gain their reputation for making keyboards,
like Corssair, its good at making RAM, but their keyboard are least of a choice for a true keyboard user.

But, hopefully that's like Kai said it's kotor fingers.
and your faith in CM restored.
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nope it's not kotor fingers...

well, I do have several CM products, but they're what I buy cause of financial constraints >"<... wanted prolimatech megahalem instead of v6gt, and ax1200 instead of m700w sad.gif

this keyboard on the other hand was chosen cause it's available locally and it has the switch i want... i am planning to change keycaps anyway since the keycaps design sucks biggrin.gif

it's impossible to take photo of what I am trying to say, cause my phone's camera just sucks... just imagine the faded color is the base, and the remaining white paint is the paint itself biggrin.gif
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1. Blue color
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3. PBT
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 13 2012, 09:12 PM)
I do not dare bring any liquid near my Mechanical keyboard man!
if it spill over the switches, its done for.
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Unlike you, mine are only 300++ brows.gif


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QUOTE(wairai @ May 14 2012, 02:13 AM)
Unlike you, mine are only 300++  brows.gif
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Only 300+? shocking.gif
man, rich people spoke different la zzz
My 300+ Leopold also do not get near any liquids.
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LOL more like the loss will not be insurmountable aside from losing 1k kb from 300 kb..yeah still money and I stilll drinking near kb haha
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spilling drinks on kb is better than one case i saw on GH:
laosai on kb sad.gif
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i got a friend going to Seoul soonish, is it possible to get a korean keyboard there??
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QUOTE(joyformidable @ May 14 2012, 01:08 PM)
i got a friend going to Seoul soonish, is it possible to get a korean keyboard there??
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Get yourself a KMAC.
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 14 2012, 01:38 PM)
Get yourself a KMAC.
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where to buy it exactly??
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QUOTE(joyformidable @ May 14 2012, 04:28 PM)
where to buy it exactly??
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Ask Kai, he got himself one, I think.
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 14 2012, 12:49 AM)
I have been uses the cherry a few months ago, and change to Topre recently.
Alot of people said its difficult to describe the touch of Topre switches,
I feel the same, but let me try to describe as best as I can.....

The switches has a very strong tactile feeling, like the membrance keyboards,
but it doesn't require to bottom out the keyo to register a key in,
and once you press the key, it has a very strong rebound, unlike membrance keyboards.
since the keypress doesn't bottom each registering key in, the sound of it are completely different
from any cherry switches, even you bottom out the key, the rubber dorm are not touching the PCB board,
or the steel board that mount the switches, thus not making loud noise when you do so.
but instead it make sound once you release the key,
I think that is due to the structure of the switches, there is a Plunger to connect the keycaps,
the plunger will hit the top of the housing of the switches, made a sound when you release the key.
In my opinion the overall built quality, the design and the quality control are better,
the keystrokes are more solid and firm when typing on them compare to the keyboard with cherry Mx switches.

the keycaps are PBT with sub-dye legend, the key surface are sleek and without grooves or dent feeling,
It's claim to be non fading.
Unlike the another Black PBT caps with purple print that I uses are now starting to fades,
not because of the dirt or kotor finger, even after I wash it, the charecters are not coming clear again.

anyway that's what I felt about the HHKB for these few weeks of usage,
hope these help.


Added on May 13, 2012, 11:55 pm

I saw you have some products from CM, so I actually presume that you will get CM at the end,
But the problem is that they did not gain their reputation for making keyboards,
like Corssair, its good at making RAM, but their keyboard are least of a choice for a true keyboard user.

But, hopefully that's like Kai said it's kotor fingers.
and your faith in CM restored.
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I see, I feel like getting one.. but I want to try first. :/
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 14 2012, 04:33 PM)
Ask Kai, he got himself one, I think.
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ok thanks man... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Human10 @ May 14 2012, 09:07 PM)
Auction machine??? I don't even know such machine exist lol
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Getting ma 9008s tomorrow, first mech kb biggrin.gif Do they come with red key caps?

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guys, how does your aftermarket keycaps' spacebar feels like?

my current stock one kinda hurts if i keep slamming it with my thumb...

it's kinda tall and sharp (not razor sharp, just not curved) at the edge >"<
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 14 2012, 10:02 PM)
guys, how does your aftermarket keycaps' spacebar feels like?

my current stock one kinda hurts if i keep slamming it with my thumb...

it's kinda tall and sharp (not razor sharp, just not curved) at the edge >"<
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seems that you use space bar a lot?
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 14 2012, 10:02 PM)
guys, how does your aftermarket keycaps' spacebar feels like?

my current stock one kinda hurts if i keep slamming it with my thumb...

it's kinda tall and sharp (not razor sharp, just not curved) at the edge >"<
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 14 2012, 10:23 PM)
seems that you use space bar a lot?
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I think I have exactly the same issue..lol
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 14 2012, 10:23 PM)
seems that you use space bar a lot?
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erm... how you do not use spacebar often when you typing english???? doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ May 14 2012, 10:23 PM)
seems that you use space bar a lot?
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QUOTE(rurushu @ May 14 2012, 10:34 PM)
erm... how you do not use spacebar often when you typing english???? doh.gif  doh.gif
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yea i use spacebar quite often... tho it only starts to hurt when im playing game, and spacebar is like one of the most used keys in the game... for typing alone im normally softer tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kaysa @ May 13 2012, 11:49 PM)
I have been uses the cherry a few months ago, and change to Topre recently.
Alot of people said its difficult to describe the touch of Topre switches,
I feel the same, but let me try to describe as best as I can.....

The switches has a very strong tactile feeling, like the membrance keyboards,
but it doesn't require to bottom out the keyo to register a key in,
and once you press the key, it has a very strong rebound, unlike membrance keyboards.
since the keypress doesn't bottom each registering key in, the sound of it are completely different
from any cherry switches, even you bottom out the key, the rubber dorm are not touching the PCB board,
or the steel board that mount the switches, thus not making loud noise when you do so.
but instead it make sound once you release the key,
I think that is due to the structure of the switches, there is a Plunger to connect the keycaps,
the plunger will hit the top of the housing of the switches, made a sound when you release the key.
In my opinion the overall built quality, the design and the quality control are better,
the keystrokes are more solid and firm when typing on them compare to the keyboard with cherry Mx switches.

the keycaps are PBT with sub-dye legend, the key surface are sleek and without grooves or dent feeling,
It's claim to be non fading.
Unlike the another Black PBT caps with purple print that I uses are now starting to fades,
not because of the dirt or kotor finger, even after I wash it, the charecters are not coming clear again.

anyway that's what I felt about the HHKB for these few weeks of usage,
hope these help.


Added on May 13, 2012, 11:55 pm

I saw you have some products from CM, so I actually presume that you will get CM at the end,
But the problem is that they did not gain their reputation for making keyboards,
like Corssair, its good at making RAM, but their keyboard are least of a choice for a true keyboard user.

But, hopefully that's like Kai said it's kotor fingers.
and your faith in CM restored.
*
I find that the switches on the HHKB vs the Topre on the Realforce quite different. Don't know how to put it in words, but the HHKB feels better than the Topre.

Also, I tested (AGAIN) the Archiss AS-KBT87LR (aka Leopold FC200R) red switch, and don't know why i never felt this before but it definitely feels mushier compared to the Filco MJ2 red / CM Storm Rapid red. So yeah, i think i'll just screw it and wait for the Filco red to come locally =.=. I can't stand the CM Storm either cause it looks terrible. Rubberized body is just so.... cheap =.=
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ May 15 2012, 12:20 AM)
I find that the switches on the HHKB vs the Topre on the Realforce quite different. Don't know how to put it in words, but the HHKB feels better than the Topre.
Maybe you tried a different weight force Realforce unit to compare to a HHKB?
I cannot say on this matter, since I never tried Realforce keyboard before.
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QUOTE(x-1o8-x @ May 14 2012, 10:02 PM)
guys, how does your aftermarket keycaps' spacebar feels like?

my current stock one kinda hurts if i keep slamming it with my thumb...

it's kinda tall and sharp (not razor sharp, just not curved) at the edge >"<
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I doesn't really slam the spacebar sbb too fast responsive if spamming

Not really notice any pain when using my leopold smile.gif
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QUOTE(wairai @ May 15 2012, 03:29 AM)
I doesn't really slam the spacebar sbb too fast responsive if spamming

Not really notice any pain when using my leopold  smile.gif
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yeah.... it only takes half way down for the key to register... really nice for o2jamming! right now im using the stand, so i guess that helps to ease the pain a little >"<

still waiting for some blank black pbt keycaps to appear in taobao... hopefully wont have to resort to the seller in GH >"<
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QUOTE(Qavs @ May 14 2012, 09:40 PM)
Getting ma 9008s tomorrow, first mech kb biggrin.gif Do they come with red key caps?
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Yup. Red WSAD keys smile.gif

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