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post May 15 2012, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(revived_irfan @ May 15 2012, 10:15 PM)
I always gentle with my car...., every night when go back from work, there must be at least 1 myvi cucuk behind my car.....I just buat tak tahu....., tonight a lady is driving her black Myvi cucuk my car....(looks fitted with aftermarket sport rim and bodykit).....haih...sometime I think of getting tired of this..
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Change to something more powder to cucuk back wink.gif
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post May 15 2012, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(revived_irfan @ May 15 2012, 10:15 PM)
I always gentle with my car...., every night when go back from work, there must be at least 1 myvi cucuk behind my car.....I just buat tak tahu....., tonight a lady is driving her black Myvi cucuk my car....(looks fitted with aftermarket sport rim and bodykit).....haih...sometime I think of getting tired of this..
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true.. then u will wonder how ur parents can drive so calmly

actually if u observed especially with roads with lots of traffic lights
only 1-2 cars will drive like hell.. others jz drive relax..

on highway esp most right lane, nothing can be done, jz move to the left when it's possible
and rmber to give signal so those tailgaters won't cut u from inside (left)

if those cars bang u, by default it's their fault
i believe in Malaysia no one dare to bang u jz for blocking
or late giving way to them

u won't lost anything by giving way
in fact u will burn ur fuel faster by racing them
and not worth thinking about it esp if u lose in the race

This post has been edited by huzaifa136: May 15 2012, 10:32 PM
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post May 15 2012, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ May 15 2012, 08:18 PM)
the 1st part actually sense of humour with innocent face  rolleyes.gif or probably jz my ignorance  doh.gif

the rest.. hmm.. u sure dave? while driving enthusiastically, i barely look at my speedometer and passenger..

really sad story about car accident recently: http://www.ohtidak.com/oh-kisah-menyayat-h...-lebuhraya-lpt/
plan for what's ahead if u r speeding, or jz stick to the speed limit
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Haizz, bawa bini dan bayi kenape bawa laju? Mitsubishi lancer built like tank, human still flesh and bone. Luckily the baby survived, even if the parents didnt.

And the writer, kononnyer trauma by witnessing the accident, but still drive 160kmh for the rest of the way... doh.gif
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post May 15 2012, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 15 2012, 10:35 PM)
Haizz, bawa bini dan bayi kenape bawa laju? Mitsubishi lancer built like tank, human still flesh and bone. Luckily the baby survived, even if the parents didnt.

And the writer, kononnyer trauma by witnessing the accident, but still drive 160kmh for the rest of the way... doh.gif
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that remind me of the time when driving my company car, saga lmst
in heavy rain, speeding + a bit downhill + car in front + brake = aquaplaning
thankfully the car ahead quickly move aside
after that drive 80-90kmh

got 2 colleagues inside
they were frightened of course
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post May 15 2012, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ May 15 2012, 10:29 PM)
true.. then u will wonder how ur parents can drive so calmly

actually if u observed especially with roads with lots of traffic lights
only 1-2 cars will drive like hell.. others jz drive relax..

on highway esp most right lane, nothing can be done, jz move to the left when it's possible
and rmber to give signal so those tailgaters won't cut u from inside (left)

if those cars bang u, by default it's their fault
i believe in Malaysia no one dare to bang u jz for blocking
or late giving way to them

u won't lost anything by giving way
in fact u will burn ur fuel faster by racing them
and not worth thinking about it esp if u lose in the race
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thanks for the advice bro smile.gif, I always kept to middle or left-most lane (even that sometime I got cucuk by someone) otherwise I move to give a way for them

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post May 15 2012, 11:23 PM

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Freak accident! Ferrari VS Taxi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JfAaOABk4g

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post May 15 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(AMenzZ @ May 15 2012, 11:23 PM)
Freak accident! Ferrari VS Taxi
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post May 15 2012, 11:44 PM

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hi guy
wanted to ask, whats the side effects of installing ngv kit on saga 1.3?

i heard it'll damage the engine, other than that any other downside effects. thanks alot


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post May 15 2012, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 15 2012, 11:39 PM)
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David,

Sorry to hear about your problems with the Iswara this morning. Have you got any comments on what I said earlier?

QUOTE(lhwj @ May 15 2012, 10:50 AM)
Btw your vacuum gauge posts got me interested in one. It's so fascinating how much info you can pull out from a single meter.

I shift up at 2,000 RPM in city traffic. That works very well for me. David I remember you said earlier that your mileage is only around 19,000 km, if I'm not mistaken. Mine is past 38k now, almost time for service. If you look at my Fuelly graph you'll see that my average consumption per month is dropping as time goes by. I remember about a year ago I was struggling to touch 400 km on one tank, and I was so happy when I finally did. Even then that was with super light foot driving, using very long detours to avoid jams, switching engine off at traffic lights, etc. Then I gradually kept hitting 400 km more and more often until nowadays it's virtually guaranteed. Now I can touch 500+ km if I drive carefully on the highway. 

My theory is, your engine is still being run in, even well past 10,000 km. But then again that doesn't explain how some people who got their car this year can start off so well rclxub.gif

Also, I'm using relatively heavy oil, 15w50. Every time I ask for lighter oil the service advisor say takde doh.gif Cold tyre pressure, front 33 PSI, rear 31 PSI.

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QUOTE(rulez1 @ May 15 2012, 11:44 PM)
hi guy
wanted to ask, whats the side effects of installing ngv kit on saga 1.3?

i heard it'll damage the engine, other than that any other downside effects. thanks alot
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Taxi drivers run hundreds of km every day on NG, do you think they'll do that if it will damage the engine?

From my friend who installed the kit on his Iswara, you lose boot space, plus the car feels a bit more sluggish when running on NG.

This post has been edited by lhwj: May 16 2012, 12:02 AM
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post May 16 2012, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ May 15 2012, 11:57 PM)
David,

Sorry to hear about your problems with the Iswara this morning. Have you got any comments on what I said earlier?
Taxi drivers run hundreds of km every day on NG, do you think they'll do that if it will damage the engine?

From my friend who installed the kit on his Iswara, you lose boot space, plus the car feels a bit more sluggish when running on NG.
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thanks alot, but u think in long run will damage the engine?
and 1.3 on saga blm,good decision to install ngv?

i run around 200km perweek.
sluggish is too bad till overtake car also hard or how?

thanks alot sir
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post May 16 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(rulez1 @ May 16 2012, 12:18 AM)
thanks alot, but u think in long run will damage the engine?
and 1.3 on saga blm,good decision to install ngv?

i run around 200km perweek.
sluggish is too bad till overtake car also hard or how?

thanks alot sir
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I don't have it installed myself, in fact of all my friends only one has an NGV, and I haven't driven any NGV before so I can't tell you how sluggish it is in comparison. Just telling you what my friend told me. Talk to someone who uses it, like taxi drivers. Will it damage the engine in the long run? I don't know.

This post has been edited by lhwj: May 16 2012, 12:36 AM
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post May 16 2012, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ May 15 2012, 10:50 AM)
Btw your vacuum gauge posts got me interested in one. It's so fascinating how much info you can pull out from a single meter.

I shift up at 2,000 RPM in city traffic. That works very well for me. David I remember you said earlier that your mileage is only around 19,000 km, if I'm not mistaken. Mine is past 38k now, almost time for service. If you look at my Fuelly graph you'll see that my average consumption per month is dropping as time goes by. I remember about a year ago I was struggling to touch 400 km on one tank, and I was so happy when I finally did. Even then that was with super light foot driving, using very long detours to avoid jams, switching engine off at traffic lights, etc. Then I gradually kept hitting 400 km more and more often until nowadays it's virtually guaranteed. Now I can touch 500+ km if I drive carefully on the highway. 

My theory is, your engine is still being run in, even well past 10,000 km. But then again that doesn't explain how some people who got their car this year can start off so well rclxub.gif

Also, I'm using relatively heavy oil, 15w50. Every time I ask for lighter oil the service advisor say takde doh.gif Cold tyre pressure, front 33 PSI, rear 31 PSI.
Hmmmmm yeah that was pushing it a bit too far. Though I remember reading somewhere that someone with a BLM ran out of petrol and when he tried to pump full tank it could only take 36 L. So maybe, 1.5 L from empty lah. I've never ran out of petrol before, and I don't think I wanna experience it tongue.gif
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Absofreakinlutely no idea how those car behive that way. Driving style holds the 50% of the causes of fuel consumption behavior. Like my father style, he can do 20cent/km on a TOYOGA GRIUS. Funny thing is, regardless its a GRIUS from his friend, my BLM, my previous WIGA1.6, my ISWAGA 1.3, my brother's BiBA 850... he does exactly 20cent/km for all those cars. He's just so comfortable with his 3rd gear at 5krpm, even on high way. My mother once told me, how come your BLM sound geh? Your father's car sounds like a sports car you know "VROOM VROOM!" doh.gif

Read my siggy, both car behave almost the same mileage. Before I had the vacuum stuck on my BLM, I can only do 250km/tank of RM60 fillup. After I put the gague, back to 300+. If translate it to cent/km or km/litre, it looks more or less the same with my ISWAGA blink.gif

I developed to read vacuum since I owned a KE20
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I'm talking about the car, and I'm not that DAVID. My previous magician taught me use that thing to troubleshoot my 30 years old engine.

QUOTE(lhwj @ May 15 2012, 11:57 PM)
David,

Sorry to hear about your problems with the Iswara this morning. Have you got any comments on what I said earlier?
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No worries, am not going to overhaul the damn car anyway. Swap engine is definitely more worthy. Let's hope no debree left inside, so my engine can last for another decade thumbup.gif

QUOTE(lhwj @ May 15 2012, 11:57 PM)
Taxi drivers run hundreds of km every day on NG, do you think they'll do that if it will damage the engine?

From my friend who installed the kit on his Iswara, you lose boot space, plus the car feels a bit more sluggish when running on NG.
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Technically, natural gas will NOT hurt... UNLESS
1) Not enough gas feed in (result in burning lean and causes high heat)
2) Natural gas IS slaggy compare to petrol. The long haul of RPM rewing before the car start moving, that actually contribute to quicker clutch wear off.
3) If you run out of gas, you may switch back to petrol, but your A/F mixture will become TOO RICH, lots of black smoke and car wouldn't move, petrol consumption is 4x prior NGV conversion

My cousin is using the 1st batch BLM + NGV(if you remember the NGV package). His monthly gas expanses is around 100 bucks, with regular outstation travelling, another 100 bucks on petrol. He change engine oil once a month...some weird brand name with the rating of 20w50. And he's kinda enjoy playing with the switch, flicker back and forth. When pickup, switch to petrol, rev the damn thing up to 100kmh then cruise with NGV shakehead.gif
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post May 16 2012, 06:46 AM

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Yesterday I send my car to SC for 1000km service. I ask them what will they do to my car, they said this that (same like normal service).. Suddenly after the service when I've to pay the bill, I saw 2 thing that they did not mention and I don't want that :

1) Sundries material - RM2.50 ( what is this anyway?)
2) Windscreen cleaner - RM2.90 ( why they do not tell me about this?)

The oil filter seem a bit expensive which is RM15.90 sad.gif
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post May 16 2012, 07:28 AM

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hey guys , a very noob question here , how to calculate l/km thingy ar ? sorry ar , i think i failed maths in my whole life
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post May 16 2012, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(mieza @ May 16 2012, 06:46 AM)
Yesterday I send my car to SC for 1000km service. I ask them what will they do to my car, they said this that (same like normal service).. Suddenly after the service when I've to pay the bill, I saw 2 thing that they did not mention and I don't want that :

1) Sundries material - RM2.50 ( what is this anyway?)
2) Windscreen cleaner - RM2.90 ( why they do not tell me about this?)

The oil filter seem a bit expensive which is RM15.90 sad.gif
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Re #2, to avoid that addition, fill up FULL yr w/screen washer container b4 send car for service....
Yrs most probly kinda empty that time? So needed to top up...(?) tongue.gif

Sundries? Yu gotta ask those SC ppl...only they wld kno wat they are referring to... brows.gif

Oil filter...price increase? Last pricing was @RM12 something, IINM.... sweat.gif


Added on May 16, 2012, 8:16 am
QUOTE(Number92 @ May 16 2012, 07:28 AM)
hey guys , a very noob question here , how to calculate l/km thingy ar ? sorry ar , i think i failed maths in my whole life
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Acc to my so-so-Maths.... rolleyes.gif

L/Km?
Amount of petrol in Litres divided by Distance in Km travelled.

If the more common value of L/100Km, then multiply above result by 100.... tongue.gif


Added on May 16, 2012, 8:17 amps. Good morning, Everyone! notworthy.gif
Btw me not home ATM.... brows.gif
In Pg now....thumbup.gif

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post May 16 2012, 08:52 AM

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when you coming to kl to join us TT ? zeone
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QUOTE(huzaifa136 @ May 15 2012, 08:18 PM)
the 1st part actually sense of humour with innocent face  rolleyes.gif or probably jz my ignorance  doh.gif

the rest.. hmm.. u sure dave? while driving enthusiastically, i barely look at my speedometer and passenger..

really sad story about car accident recently: http://www.ohtidak.com/oh-kisah-menyayat-h...-lebuhraya-lpt/
plan for what's ahead if u r speeding, or jz stick to the speed limit
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after reading i valued my saga more...huhu drive safe all..very sad story lah...but wondering how come the baby still alive after insanely speed crash??magical hmm.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ May 16 2012, 08:11 AM)
Re #2, to avoid that addition, fill up FULL yr w/screen washer container b4 send car for service....
Yrs most probly kinda empty that time? So needed to top up...(?) tongue.gif

Sundries? Yu gotta ask those SC ppl...only they wld kno wat they are referring to... brows.gif

Oil filter...price increase? Last pricing was @RM12 something, IINM.... sweat.gif
Ya lorr I do not add, forgot woo.. I'm a bit angry coz they also add air paip into coolant.. Suppose to add coolant / distilled water only.. I've learn my lesson..
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QUOTE(mieza @ May 16 2012, 09:27 AM)
Ya lorr I do not add, forgot woo.. I'm a bit angry coz they also add air paip into coolant.. Suppose to add coolant / distilled water only.. I've learn my lesson..
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#1: they add soup water to your windshield washer, that's why they charge extra. Soup water give cleaning effect, but spoil rubber/silicone very quickly. To experiment this, grab a piece of rubber, pour soup water on it and dry it. Next few days the soup composite will harden the rubber. Your next service will be changing wiper instead laugh.gif

#2: sundry expanses could be the tap water they added to your radiator, or they use duct tape to shut your oil sum ph34r.gif nothing wrong with tap water as coolant to radiator. The so called coolant in Malaysia are meant for ANTI RUST, not extra cooling effect. If you want extra cooling effect, can order from STP. Those coolant promise -5'C on macimum boiling point, -5'C anti freeze(snowing country). Tried those in my Potong Vila before, it killed the radiator fan relay, thermostat in 2 months time. To hae full effect of these antifreeze coolant, we also need to change to light lift thermostat, early switch on radiator fan(80'C) instead of 90'C.

Therefore, tap water + anti rust should be sufficient jor, since your tangki is not kosong, refill with tap water is a common practice.

Distill water is for wet battery. Distill water no bubble, more stable, pure water, metal free to protect the "electrolysis" process in the wet battery plates.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 16 2012, 09:53 AM)
#1: they add soup water to your windshield washer, that's why they charge extra. Soup water give cleaning effect, but spoil rubber/silicone very quickly. To experiment this, grab a piece of rubber, pour soup water on it and dry it. Next few days the soup composite will harden the rubber. Your next service will be changing wiper instead laugh.gif

#2: sundry expanses could be the tap water they added to your radiator, or they use duct tape to shut your oil sum ph34r.gif nothing wrong with tap water as coolant to radiator. The so called coolant in Malaysia are meant for ANTI RUST, not extra cooling effect. If you want extra cooling effect, can order from STP. Those coolant promise -5'C on macimum boiling point, -5'C anti freeze(snowing country). Tried those in my Potong Vila before, it killed the radiator fan relay, thermostat in 2 months time. To hae full effect of these antifreeze coolant, we also need to change to light lift thermostat, early switch on radiator fan(80'C) instead of 90'C.

Therefore, tap water + anti rust should be sufficient jor, since your tangki is not kosong, refill with tap water is a common practice.

Distill water is for wet battery. Distill water no bubble, more stable, pure water, metal free to protect the "electrolysis" process in the wet battery plates.
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Thank u for sharing! I've never think that soup water can harden the rubber.

I've read somewhere that using tap water is not good coz got many contaminant. Best practice is that use distill water/ro water coz less contaminant.


Added on May 16, 2012, 10:12 amAfter send my car to SC, I realise that got scratches on my gear knob and my front bumper sad.gif

ps/: Got small paint defect tompok red color.. I ask them how to claim paint defect, they said cannot.

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