Frankly, DON'T BUY SAGA! Below I list down DISadvantages, which is 10 things I hate about the SAGA FLX:

1) Small cockpit, rear seat can only fit in a medium size 2 door fridge.Moving house not convenient.

2) When u open the boot, u will realize it can only stuck in 50 pieces of durians, that equal to 4 jumbo size luggage. 5 person in the car, only 4 luggage?! What a joke!

3) Perdana V6 2.0 can generate 147hp, this car 1.3 ady 94hp!how am I suppose to modify engine?!

4) No prrastic engine cover, how to collet dust?!

5) The lowest cost among the same category, can easily payoff installment within 5 years, what the hell am I suppose to do with the extra money after that?

6) Sparepart too cheap compare to same category H brand & T brand

7) U mentioned u normally drive within speed limit, this car can easily hit 180! Definitely not your cup of tea!

8) Life time warranty on powah windoe?! Sure got lotsa problem ler, if no problem warranty do what?!

9) CVT gearbox alone costs 20k, this whole car selling below 50k. Meaning the rest of the cars is made out of junk! T & H brand make more sense, coz they're selling 80k.

10) Lotus engineering car is for F1 geh! Not for streets car! Handling so good do what? Now I can't hear tire screeching sound when I corner 80kmh at Jln Sultan Ismail exit from Jln Kuching. Don't feel fast anymore. BLM already like this, sure FLX even worse. 120kmh corner also dunno can feel the car loose traction or not!

No spoil la.u guys being spoilt by continental car ady la. Its normal to have "gruk,grek" sound when release/engage brake pedal. It means your brake cylinder is pulling back the brake shoes, or the brake shoe is attaching the drum hub surface. You don't hear that often on other cars because most cars soundproof very well(GAGA not included) next time get the mechanic to open your brake hub, ask him blow dust, then u get to know how it works. It pushes the brake shoes out when u press the brake pedal, when u release, the brake cylinder will pull back the brake shoe, that's the "gruk,grek" sound you hear. What I worry is dares's "tak,tak,tak" sound. No reply from my magician yet, guess he oso dunno. Coz all cars he mod also disable ABS geh

1) Small cockpit, rear seat can only fit in a medium size 2 door fridge.Moving house not convenient.
Most same price ranged car cant even fit a 1 door small fridge

2) When u open the boot, u will realize it can only stuck in 50 pieces of durians, that equal to 4 jumbo size luggage. 5 person in the car, only 4 luggage?! What a joke!
If you go for a road trip, you pack 1 jumbo luggage and your wifu also pack 1 jumbo luggage? Or both of you share 1 normal large luggage for a 3 days trip? 4 jumbo luggage is good for 8 persons 1 week trip. 50 durians can match with what a 3 tonnes lorry road side durian stall ady.

3) Perdana V6 2.0 can generate 147hp, this car 1.3 ady 94hp!how am I suppose to modify engine?!
Besides of Honda B16 VTAC, Mits 4G93 MIVAC having 1litre>100hp, basically most volume production cars having 1litre/=50hp to reduce emission. Plotong Campur is actually meeting the emission standard with smaller engine capacity + power to weight efficiency.

4) No prrastic engine cover, how to collet dust?!
Unless you like to collect dust

5) The lowest cost among the same category, can easily payoff installment within 5 years, what the hell am I suppose to do with the extra money after that?
Fine, go for 9 years loan then. Still, buying a FLX will pay much cheaper monthly installment compare to a Vias. Better think of a way to spend the extra money. DONT BUY FLX!!!

6) Sparepart too cheap compare to same category H brand & T brand
IAFM whole intake system include labour RM450?! VIAS 5AFE intake system alone RM1.2k(not include labour)

7) U mentioned u normally drive within speed limit, this car can easily hit 180! Definitely not your cup of tea!
Seriously... a little too powerful

8) Life time warranty on powah windoe?! Sure got lotsa problem ler, if no problem warranty do what?!
What to worry if its life time warranty? Do you plan to use this car for the next 59 years?! Even you do, you go back SC and proudly ask them to change your powah windoe after 58 years, I'd be dead wood pay the f*cking mechanic a huge tip for being doing his job for the past 57 years!

9) CVT gearbox alone costs 20k, this whole car selling below 50k. Meaning the rest of the cars is made out of junk! T & H brand make more sense, coz they're selling 80k.
Then go buy a 4AT

10) Lotus engineering car is for F1 geh! Not for streets car! Handling so good do what? Now I can't hear tire screeching sound when I corner 80kmh at Jln Sultan Ismail exit from Jln Kuching. Don't feel fast anymore. BLM already like this, sure FLX even worse. 120kmh corner also dunno can feel the car loose traction or not!
Because my ISWAGA screech its tire when I'm doing 60kmh corner, it makes me feel fast(instead of real fast). My KE20 can drift by the speed of 40kmh, so it does makes me FEEL fast.

The brake pad was soft initially, now its harden after a year. If it's within warranty, go komplen Plotong so they change you a new set. After sometime, it will come back again. Go back komplen again. Keep komplening until you finish your warranty. After that when you start forking out money from your pocket, then you'll decide to get use to the sound instead of changing brake pad every month All my drum brake cars rear brake pad can easily last 1.5 years to 2 years(include time to time go tauke at Genting) I'm not saying go back warranty is wrong, I just hope this doesn't bother you in the future(after the warranty), just get real and accept the fact that drum brake will have this problem.

Ekekeke... dude your antenna quite good. You use aircon cabin filter rite? That's why la, your brain is as clean as I am! Plotong rocks! Aircon cabin filter rocks!

Guess what, I'm currently driving a 16 years old ISWAGA also. Let me explain why you heard NOTHING from your ISWAGA drumbrake! Because your father's old school mechanic already tighten the brake bank range(if you notice you pull less handbrake to stop your ISWAGA compare to your FL). There is a series of gears at the opposite site of your drumbrake hub, to adjust the brake bank distance. To adjust the brake shoe closer to the brake hub can MINIMIZE such "grek/gruk" sound. How to check whether your drum shoe have enough free space... well... sorry only olskool knowledge available(consider my age and driving/fixing/racing/fishing experience). Jack up your car, release your hand brake and spin your wheels with bear hand. If you feel no resistance besides of the tire weight, meaning your brake shoes are totally off the hub, your wheel will continue spinning for a very long time until the momentum gone. Normally an old school mechanic will adjust the brake until you spin it, only it move. If you take stop spinning, it will stop in a shortwhile, normally within 1 round cycle(2 round is GOOD, but seldom mechanic spend so much time to adjust until so accurate for you). Get what I mean so far?

Again, another olskol stuff to try out. Now, get your girlfriend(*can be anyone la, but will look embarrassing) to bring a mob, go to your rim and start poking the hub whilst you're INSIDE the car with all windows closed. You'll probably hear muffled metal pinging OUTSIDE the vehicle. But if you do the same thing to your BLM/FL/FLX, it felt like somebody is using a metal stick smashing your car! So, I guess now you have pretty much idea on how tough ISWAGA is.

You may try to get somebody to slam your brake whilst you're outside at the backwheel listen to the drum beat, again I doubt you can hear much from your ISWAGA because the brakepad already lekat at the drum. So, I guess its very safe to said(if we're talking about the same sound created by the same stuff), the brake engage/release sound is very normal.

Hope this help

p/s: 1 more thing, you dont hear it much in the afternoon because the brake pad already heated up

i tot i ask you dun buy?

Anyway, the photo was from 1 of our LYN forumer, he survived the crash but came back and barsh about GAGA, just like ERIC. Look closely to how many pillars of divider has been brought down by the car, ended up hit a tiang and flipped over, and the guy still able to come back and post in forum? You to judge his speed during the event.


ABANZA also can not tahan ar?

Not sure you're allowed to do that, your car god ABS mou? If got ABS not sure whether can do. Adjust tight or not is totally up to you. Below are the comparison. Sorry, I'm a fact person(bloody left brainer ), so most of the time I'll use point form to do comparison

Tight
Good
1) Less braking engage/disengage sound
2) Brake pedal feeling more gradual increase of force
3) Brake force is very strong, can stop the car in very short distance(within normal driving speed)
Bad
1) Brake pad faster gao dim
2) Drink more petrol cause brakes is always semi engaged
3) Speed racers could get killed because the brake shoe is always heated up. It will loose function if tauke too much(brake pad already heated up > working temperature). Normal driver wouldn't affect much as no drastic drifting/side braking/jam brakes often. However, I have no experience with doing this with ABS. Not sure whether Plotong ABS control the rear drum brakes

Loose(factory setting)
Good
1) Accurate braking, demand more on front disc brake. Could be better FC due to bearings are spinning at optimal momentum without brakes blockage.
2) Brake pedal feeling is right to the point when you hit the brake hard, the car will transfer force to the front
3) ABS settings are running at optimal. Even jam brake, the front disc are given tolerance to move steering wheels to gain control, whilst rear brake is having minimal allowance to let the car sway away from immediate collision during a head on(which is why everytime you see the crash test they only crash half the right side of the car)
Bad
1) Front brake pad faster gao dim
2) If not ABS, you hit the brake pedal, the car wouldn't stop immediately. If you try again harder, it jammed If you're lucky, you leave a long tire mark on the road, or somebody go pick you and your car up from longkang
3) Brake engage/disengage sound can be annoying bcoz BLM/FL/FLX soundproof is... err... nevermind la

If you remember my 1st TT lecture regarding factory windshield.

Sorry bro Xshiro, its not the pillar itself. Lot more information dunno how to explain here, need to point finger up and down

MyBi good! Slightly more than 45k nia.

Dont compare the 45k car with a 80k Vias/Chiti² Bang². The truth is, if you spend the 35k balance on your GAGA, you'll actually end up like a drag machine with soundproof padding everywhere.

edited: removed for good

This post has been edited by davidke20: Apr 19 2012, 01:40 AM

think of it I also scared ady now. We just ordered the door seal. I bought tires, now still at my boot. Later rims. Follow by Air Filter, full exhaust system upgrade & decat. Soon enough may be going to change ECU, port & polish head, heavier valve spring, hi-cam, rebalance crankshaft, all the pulleys to be exhange to light weight Close to 10k ady...Estimated power after all these modification... 95hp.... Who knows, am I going to dyno my car? Or just placebo? thinking of going to stop at the beginner stage, SIMOTA drop in/open pod with better shoes and thats it.

OKOK Soli Soli. I over did it again

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Added on April 19, 2012, 1:46 amProbably not la...Just accept the fact the car is a little too high

This post has been edited by davidke20: Apr 19 2012, 01:46 AM

Haiya! Diao lo! Tayar 195/55/15 ar. Dai lor! Can't find a proper rim to stuff in my BLM ar!!! Sei lor Any good makat fella can recommed to roll my makat wider? Think that's the last resort liao

Forgib my sohighness... I bought the tayar jor

Almost every insurance company same ler. Collect premium 1st before cover. If wanna claim that time,nobody entertain. Currently ETIQA premium is the cheapest compare to any other company, like-10 bucks cheaper. So, the only consideration now is, who give the most value added such as FREE road assist(tow truck) or FREE PA(personal accident). Even if its free towing service,make sure u ask the radius cover, and the consecutive $/km charges just to ensure they can't con you.

yau yip is like a BLM specialist so damn crowded,when I squeeze in, the marshimaro also dropped out.

10 pages in 24 hours is not slow ady. If progress like this within 2 weeks we'll be looking for new TS ady

Not too sure about others, but if you go Jalan Ipoh, opposite of Tan Chong Capital(right at the trafficlight T-junction there) got a fire lane go to the dodgy back lane, turn left 3 shop back lot there got a dude selling Sentiuli batteries for unbelievable price(for me its dirt cheap). 2010 I got my Plotong Vila 1.6 changed to a maintenance free NS60 battery for 150, then trade in my old/damage battery for 20, so I only pay RM130. You don't need to believe me, but every morning I go to work from that dodgy back lane to avoid traffic, every morning got atleast 1-3 taxi waiting for that dude to do their vehicle electrical work/change battery

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Added on April 20, 2012, 12:20 amdun wan fast, wan quality.

This post has been edited by davidke20: Apr 20 2012, 12:20 AM

I really like clean sport rims, so can see the disc at the back wheel. Sometimes I keep on asking myself, why can't Plotong just give a little mercy, spend another few hundrad bucks and make it 4 wheel disc brakes for GAGA Even if they include that in the car price, we wouldn't know the difference. 践兔got rear disc(big 1), Wajia also rear disc, some Persoma also got, only GAGA doesn't have


Really admired the drilled rear disc brakes, so take a closer look...

Hut tew... caliper leh?!

Itu teknologi terkini.
S4P300000003
Capacity: 1332cc
Output: 500hp
Torque: 100kg/mm2
Stealth technology, kenot see the engine
Fuel efficiency: constant 300km/h = 1litre/50km
Roadtax: RM60
On the road price: RM5000nett
Loan: Max9 years RM83.33/month 0%


Remarks: pls understand my sohighness