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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Carling Cup Winner,FA Cup Runner Up 2012

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post Apr 25 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Zephyr_Mage @ Apr 25 2012, 09:32 AM)
How many times did Suarez fail to score from one-on-ones this season? biggrin.gif
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To be fair to Suarez though, he had to literally dance around the penalty box to earn that shot. Moreover, he finished brilliantly in that one-on-one against Everton. laugh.gif

And who can forget this? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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On a side note, I actually felt sorry for him then.

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post Apr 25 2012, 11:44 AM

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That miss wasn't as bad as Kuyt's against Villa.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 25 2012, 12:38 AM)
the botak one? one of LFC's best LB - rob jones.
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Played mostly on the right and if if he wasn't forced into early retirement because of injury, Gary Neville wouldn't have got as many England caps as he has. Jones was a phenomenon. Plucked from obscurity and made an immediate impact, after being signed by Crewe. Earned his first cap by the end of his first season. I'm certain he would be amongst our best rightbacks ever if he didn't have to retire.
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Hmm,chelsea have the same spirit we had when we won in 2005.I won't be surprised if they go on to lift the CL trophy.

If it means that chelsea will focus on the CL final,then i am happy as it will only give us an advantage in the FA cup.

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post Apr 25 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 25 2012, 11:50 AM)
Played mostly on the right and if if he wasn't forced into early retirement because of injury, Gary Neville wouldn't have got as many England caps as he has. Jones was a phenomenon. Plucked from obscurity and made an immediate impact, after being signed by Crewe. Earned his first cap by the end of his first season. I'm certain he would be amongst our best rightbacks ever if he didn't have to retire.
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ditto...when i i first saw him breaking through the ranks..I never thought the great Steve Nicol can be replaced......Giggsy himself said he really hated it when marked by Rob Jones....

injury and sickness did rob away 2 of our great right backs...the other one was Markus Babbel..

.Just how do you get past a line consisting of Carragher, Henchoz, Hyypia and Babbel??.. cry.gif

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If you put aside your feelings towards Chelsea, you have to admit that it was well deserved victory. It was a superb performance and they showed tremendous resilience.

We will have to do a lot better than we did against Everton to beat them in the Final. A lot better.
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i actually admire the way they played last night, it was one of those performance which actually made me root for then.....

i was quite swayed towards barca in the beginning, but the turn of events and the way chelsea handles it changed my view half way through
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post Apr 25 2012, 02:40 PM

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As I always said, Torres will always be my hero. And he finally got to the final...something that he wanted when he joined Liverpool


Added on April 25, 2012, 2:45 pmeven Barca n Messi hit the post twice last nite.

Reminded me how we tried to go thru Brom last week

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Messi penalty is exactly the same as mine when im in futsal semis's penalty..
now messi must feel what i felt after he hit the crossbar...hahahaha
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 25 2012, 11:50 AM)
Played mostly on the right and if if he wasn't forced into early retirement because of injury, Gary Neville wouldn't have got as many England caps as he has. Jones was a phenomenon. Plucked from obscurity and made an immediate impact, after being signed by Crewe. Earned his first cap by the end of his first season. I'm certain he would be amongst our best rightbacks ever if he didn't have to retire.
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My first kit I bought with my own money had his names on the back. Too bad he forced to retired.

With Chelsea in the CL final it will help us a bit in the FA final since their attention will be focus on somewhere else. Roman's always wanted a CL cup and they now either need to win it or get 4th spot to be able to play in CL next season.


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QUOTE(rushmode @ Apr 25 2012, 03:34 PM)
My first kit I bought with my own money had his names on the back. Too bad he forced to retired.

With Chelsea in the CL final it will help us a bit in the FA final since their attention will be focus on somewhere else. Roman's always wanted a CL cup and they now either need to win it or get 4th spot to be able to play in CL next season.
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I think they would wanna win it at. Dont make this as an excuse for us to lighten our effort against them.
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QUOTE(nando @ Apr 25 2012, 12:53 PM)
ditto...when i i first saw him breaking through the ranks..I never thought the great Steve Nicol can be replaced......Giggsy himself said he really hated it when marked by Rob Jones....

injury and sickness did rob away 2 of our great right backs...the other one was Markus Babbel..

.Just how do you get past a line consisting of Carragher, Henchoz, Hyypia and Babbel??.. cry.gif
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Aye Babbel was another. Scored a vital goal in the final against Alaves. Even retired from international football to focus on his career with us. Another rightback who I really liked at the time was Vegard Haggem but unfortunately injury robbed us of him as well. He's still an avid Liverpool fan and attends home games.


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QUOTE(rushmode @ Apr 25 2012, 03:34 PM)
My first kit I bought with my own money had his names on the back. Too bad he forced to retired.

With Chelsea in the CL final it will help us a bit in the FA final since their attention will be focus on somewhere else. Roman's always wanted a CL cup and they now either need to win it or get 4th spot to be able to play in CL next season.
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Actually the only name I have on my kits is "Carragher". Reason being I want to make sure the player whose name as I have on my back is passionate about the club and won't betray us. Good that you have Jones' name.

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Apr 25 2012, 03:34 PM)
My first kit I bought with my own money had his names on the back. Too bad he forced to retired.

With Chelsea in the CL final it will help us a bit in the FA final since their attention will be focus on somewhere else. Roman's always wanted a CL cup and they now either need to win it or get 4th spot to be able to play in CL next season.
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I would say, unrelated, whether Chelsea in the CL final or not, doesn't alter how they will play against Liv.
For sure, they will in full force to go for it, don't forget Terry, Ramires, Miereles, Ivanonic are not available for CL final.
It is Liv, the team itself need to turn up for the match.

If Chelsea win CL, it means 4th place only get Europa league, right?
No more like last time Liv won but finish 5th time, right?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 25 2012, 08:36 AM)
Aye

Barca's play reminded me of Liverpool...lotsa posession and pressin, but goals hard to come by.

IMO that Barca's play has been found out.....

a) barca's strength is posession and pressing
b) Barca's weakness is their defence AND inability to change their play mid game. They
dont have a Big No.9. They tried to suss this out by having Ibrahimovic but he doesnt like the bench!
They are also missin the predator like us in Villa/Etoo missing
c) Therefore crowd the box defensively and hope. Rafa used this aginst them before and it worked as well.
d) Then play a strong ONe man striker and hope for the breaks
e) Otherwsie its penalties which is a roulette
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Yup but I guess the difference is Barca still managed to score 3 goals in the 3 games where they played like us XD We go on without goals at Anfield!!

I actually didn't think Barca did badly or anything. They still managed to play passes and one-twos in amazingly tight areas as when Messi had the shot saved by Cech (he would normally score thatn 9 out of 10 times) and when Fabregas won the penalty and over two legs they were definitely the better side but as usual, it's goals that count. I think if Messi had scored the penalty, they would have gone through and he has to take abit part of blame as he was the one who lost the ball when Chelsea scored at Stamford Bridge.

I think it's more of they DON'T want to change their play, rather than unable to because I have to be honest and say I respect them for that. They believe in their style of player which has served them well over 4 years but I don't think they can be too disappointed with the result because, well, they have been dominant for probably 4 years and you just can't win everything. Even the best Liverpool sides have lost games.

Yes, one way to stop teams like Barca (and ourselves) as both play alot of possession is to just crowd the box. 95% of the time, that will work but actually leaves the team vulnerable to counter attacks because the whole Barca and Liverpool team would automatically push up.

I think they definitely missed David Villa this season and no matter how got Leo Messi is, it's almost impossible to just depend on him. And having said that, Barca lack a world class central defender (Pique is very good though) and goalkeeper (Valdes is crap!!). Having Abidal out doesn't help either because I would think their best back four are Alves-Puyol-Pique-Abidal.


QUOTE(nando @ Apr 25 2012, 09:29 AM)
Chelsea? The players are super good.  The only thing is they are selective about their gaffer.  Di Matteo knows how to rub their egos and make them happy and hence, the willingness to go all out for him on the pitch.  Scolari and AVB are good coaches and tacticians but they lost half the battle when their troops goes into the pitch half hearted...
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True but remember under Scolari and AvB, Chelsea had a very good start to the season only to falter after that. I'm not liking it under Di Matteo cause he's getting them the results! And for me, Chelsea's best player this season is easily Ramires and he's .. out of the Champions League final along with Meireles, Ivanovic and Terry!

QUOTE(Zephyr_Mage @ Apr 25 2012, 09:32 AM)
How many times did Suarez fail to score from one-on-ones this season? biggrin.gif
"Doing it right" is putting the ball in the back of the net. Just tap it in or place the shot. Not aiming for hollywood shots which risk being ricocheted off the crossbar.

Looking at the 29 times vid someone posted (was it you?), many of the shots were either half chances or shots from acute angles. Ergo we were never gonna score from those shots.

What I don't understand is how keepers always manage to give in amazing performances at Anfield.
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That is why I said "kinda" doing it right and I don't think the players are always trying to score hollywood goals. I don't know why but 29 times hitting the woodwork is just ... retarded ... and it has happened in the cup games as well.

And as you said, plus the fact that goalkeepers have the games of their lives at Anfield ... I don't think the players have done alot of wrong.

QUOTE(demio121 @ Apr 25 2012, 09:57 AM)
i know.  Its mindboggling we manage to hit the post all season yet me mange 40 goals in 34 matches in the league.  in cup competition we fair much better.  its not sumthing that happen since Aug 2011 but with the extended slump, thing got from bad to worst.  Frustration sets in.

I dun blame the player for lack urgency.  we manage to create chances, we dominate the entire game but we cannot slot the ball into the net.  what happen during the 2nd half last season, i call it euphoria.  a legend step in after a bad start and morale and spirit is high.  its the same for Chelsea now.  Di Matteo step in after AVB fails and every1 is eager to change.  The real Di Matteo work is next season (if he gets the job).

at the end of day, reality is no win no points.  no amount of chances or hitting the post will gv us money or send us to CL.
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That's very true but I think in all competitions, we have hit the post or bar about 32 times only for three of them to actually end up being goals! It just doesn't make sense how the ball can't go in and what doesn't make even more sense is .. how does the opponents score from their only shot on target!! The scores could have at least remain 0-0 !!!


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GERRARD - FORGET ABOUT FA CUP

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard has urged his team-mates to forget about the FA Cup final - and concentrate on improving their league position.

Gerrard admits three top-flight wins in 2012 is not good enough for the Merseyside giants, who are facing their worst position and points tally since the launch of the Premier League.

And Reds forward Dirk Kuyt says the players will still not be satisfied with their league campaign, even if results improve in their final four games of the season.

Kenny Dalglish's men currently sit in eighth position and only four points separate them from 14th-placed Stoke.

They have enjoyed greater success in the domestic cup competitions, having won the League Cup by beating Cardiff in February and reaching the FA Cup showpiece at the expense of Mersey rivals Everton earlier this month.

But Gerrard said: "We know our league form hasn't been good enough, particularly in the second half of the season. We have to concentrate on getting it right - and forget about Chelsea in the FA Cup final."

Kuyt added: "Whatever happens between now and the end of the season, we will not be satisfied with our league position.

"We are playing for Liverpool and when you do that you have to win every game. We have lost too many games and too many league points.

"We can't look back, we want to change things and we have to do that now by winning as many games as possible between now and the end of the season."
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Torres............... sad.gif



About enough to sum the weekend for me...
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 26 2012, 07:42 AM)

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Its the white away strip jinx, i tells ya........
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its like watching how we give our season away....!!!!

i got a suggestion. anyone with connection to KD pls fwd. Please make the post smaller (height and width) during training. So that, they keep hitting the post in training but on matchday its on target. cool right?
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QUOTE(demio121 @ Apr 26 2012, 08:24 AM)
its like watching how we give our season away....!!!!

i got a suggestion.  anyone with connection to KD pls fwd.  Please make the post smaller (height and width) during training.  So that, they keep hitting the post in training but on matchday its on target. cool right?
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They may still aim for the posts regardless! shocking.gif

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