Pretty good at hitting the cross bar!
But fans want them to hit the goal, not cross bar.

Sometimes, cannot rely on stat to determine a player is effective or not, or how is the performance on the pitch.

A player can get 90% pass rate success, but those can be just simple pass around that are not penetrating opponent and create chances for teamates one.
So does a pass rate of 100% doesn't mean create chances and creative on the pitch.

I already mentioned last weekend, please stop practising hit the goal post/bar, but hit ball into the net.

The team is playing ok, but not for shooting.
I hope something done on shooting skill, shooting practise.

Don't mean to criticise Suarez, but he is good in dribbling, create chance out of nothing, but not for shooting and conversion.

So far,
I don't see KD has the tactical substitution or changing tactic that can change the face of the game, or turn the result into win.

If the team start like that, most of the time, it also end like that.

Yes & No.
If Distin was not making mistake on back pass which let to 1 v 1 for Suaraz to score, Liv might not able to come back from 1-0, there was no big spark on second half until the Suarez goal which lift the team morale as well as Everton seem totally loss afterwards.
I don't see it is tactical wise that change the game, but a mistake done. Liv offered little threat prior to the goal.

How many times, we see substitution that change the game? I cannot remember.
How many times, we see substitution come to score and win the match? I cannot remember.

Dominate?
Liv dominated a lot of game, but unable to score.
Domination at outside of opponent penalty box and passing around with little clue what to do with the ball.

Yesterday, 30 attempt on goal, 6 on target (even without knowing the score, this already a poor stat to start with 6/30), and zero goal scored.

Liv conversion rate is the lowest now, and league point/performance since 2012 after 4 months is comparable to Wolves.
What is the different between Roy's stat for the half season, compared to second half season of KD in charge after spending so much? Little.

Everton is above now.
Same point with Fulham
A point above WBA.

Sorry I don't mean to call for KD sacking, but clearly, situation is quite alarming, as it is a relegation form, if continue to play like this into next season.
Cannot continue to say playing well, dominate the game, but keep on fire blank, and unable to win.
Fire blank, the most you can get is 1 point, 1 point out of 38 matches, is a relegation candidate.
How many win at home this season until now? 5 only

This post has been edited by cherroy: Apr 23 2012, 09:36 PM

Hitting the post is considered off target.
It is not something to be proud of.
Just like passing mark in exam is 60, one get 59, it is still considered "fail", no matter one praise the person score 59 mark for 100 times.
So it is the same in football, hitting the post 100x, is 100x unable to hit the target.

The previous post on skill challenge show, player can hit cross bar it with fairly good accuracy as well.
So manager, coach need to work out serious on it. Hitting goal is one of most important aspect in football, not just to create chance.

KD can do, is work out way to create chance, also must find a way to work out on player when to shoot, when to pass the ball, how to shoot on goal, composure in front

Yes, both side defence at fault, so there is unfair to pinpoint solely on mistaken done by Distin.
But when watching down 0-1 time, I don't have a feeling Liv can create a goal and craft out a goal in the process even dominating possession.
As you have mentioned as well and others, conversion ration is embrassing, you need to create 20-30 goal attempt, that the team may not score as well, there is no excitement when chance come by, because experience tell us, either sky the ball or hit the post, or shooting that make opponent godlike performance.

One is undeniable fact is Liv is having lowest conversion rate and relegation result since 2012 start, and if continue like this into next season, we may be talking on relegation battle next year.

It just means 29 times off target.

I would say, unrelated, whether Chelsea in the CL final or not, doesn't alter how they will play against Liv.
For sure, they will in full force to go for it, don't forget Terry, Ramires, Miereles, Ivanonic are not available for CL final.
It is Liv, the team itself need to turn up for the match.

If Chelsea win CL, it means 4th place only get Europa league, right?
No more like last time Liv won but finish 5th time, right?

I don't think sending Carroll on loan is a good idea.
Either sell or keep.
Loaning out a player won't result in better price can get if really want to offload.

If loan, it is better as a substitute consider there is no depth in striker department at least for now.

The dismay performance and result still continue.
Lot of wrong end breaking record recently.

At anfield, Last 8 home game, only win once against Everton 3-0, the rest draw and loss to
Fulham
WBA
Wigan

Loss at
QPR
Blackburn

Speechless...

Nobody said should play Agger, Suarez or Gerrard.

But after spend big in last summer, the team still has no depth?
Unable to beat opponent at home,
Inability to score (again).

Lose to Fulham at home for multi decade record, WBA as well.
Lose to QPR, Blackburn, Bolton, Sunderland...
Only 3 win for the second half season or since 2012 start.

This is serious league form and relegation form after spend big in last summer which is totally unacceptable, no matter how one dissect the situation.

If blame luck which cannot finish top of table, or 4/5th place, ok, not much an issue.

But a relegation form and result, you cannot blame on luck already.

Good football up to outside of opponent penalty box. This I agreed.

So since 2012 play good football?
The team will be relegated if playing like this and get the result like this, for the entirely season.
So progress but relegated?

That's why cannot hold on sentiment anymore, money and result come first before sentiment.

New Stadium is a must, further delay only further away from the packing order in term of revenue generating.
Further away the revenue, the least ability to sign player, pay high wages to top players.
Without top players, the most the team can do is mid table, not top 4, no CL.
No CL, no extra revenue, inability to compete financial with the top.

2012 league result and performance, it is a relegation trend.
If the season start at 2012, we are talking of Liv possible of languishing at bottom 2.

It is not the like fans do not support KD.
Yes KD was a good player that win trophy for the club as well as manager prior before.
But current display in league form and result is indeed a relegation threaten one.
This is undeniable fact.

Whether KD to be sacked or not, is not my point, but relegation threaten risk is real.

From my pov
It is not only over-cautious but show little determination and urgency after going behind.
Trailing 1-0 at cup final in the first half, ball pass around at walking pace, which look like a team that is current leading which hurt the most.

I would say KD get the wrong tactic, should play AC from the start.
Suarez alone in front without support is tightly marked by 2 central defenders. The ball even cannot pass through the half way line when Liv had possession time.
It is a cup final, you need to score to win, from the start, Liv looked like a team that happy to see the match ended 0-0.

This post has been edited by cherroy: May 6 2012, 02:41 PM

Draw a table for for league matches for 2012 and points tally.

Half season for 2012, win 4, draw 3 the lose 10, tell me it is a relegation trend or not?
15 points out of 17 matches, it is a relegation threaten or not?

It is not extreme, and a real fact!

I agreed on this for the first half of season.
But not the second half season.

If the manager done wrongly, wrong strategy, there is needless to defend, like FA cup final first half and second half.
Support, yes, every fan should be, but not defend blindly.
Even opposition defender (Terry) in the post match interview also said after AC come in, they had some trouble in defending, if not mistaken.
Criticism can be made in good faith as well.

One can criticise while support the team.

Criticise /= not support.