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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.15, Get your D800/D4 now !

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post Apr 4 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Apr 4 2012, 12:46 PM)
That might means 'I AM THE BIG PICTURE' is not a camera for you. No?
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0168257061, replied my answer. rolleyes.gif

Sorry, I just joking around. I actually mean if I don't use the photo for commercial will just shot jpeg. Because storage wise. I don't have huge storage to store.



QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 4 2012, 01:10 PM)
I only have 2 CF cards, 16GB each. I didn't manage to fill up both cards sad.gif so disappointed haih.
For 14-bit lossless, it is about 1800 pics for 24GB.
25MB for 14-bit uncompressed. I'm shooting at 14-bit lossless, about 10-15MB per photo.
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This year even lesser chicks? So you couldn't filled up your both cards? shocking.gif


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QUOTE(salvator @ Apr 4 2012, 02:59 PM)
This year even lesser chicks? So you couldn't filled up your both cards? shocking.gif
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maybe got girlfriend around dun have "private" time to shoot brows.gif
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QUOTE(salvator @ Apr 4 2012, 02:59 PM)
0168257061, replied my answer. rolleyes.gif 

Sorry, I just joking around. I actually mean if I don't use the photo for commercial will just shot jpeg. Because storage wise. I don't have huge storage to store.
This year even lesser chicks? So you couldn't filled up your both cards? shocking.gif
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Too many chicks! But a lot people so yeah... cannot change angle much or get her attention LOL. Need to wait and wait lor.. if in Msia I terus cut q if I know them tongue.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 4 2012, 03:17 PM)
maybe got girlfriend around dun have "private" time to shoot  brows.gif
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Where got people bring gf to such event tongue.gif
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QUOTE(salvator @ Apr 4 2012, 02:59 PM)
0168257061, replied my answer. rolleyes.gif 

Sorry, I just joking around. I actually mean if I don't use the photo for commercial will just shot jpeg. Because storage wise. I don't have huge storage to store.
This year even lesser chicks? So you couldn't filled up your both cards? shocking.gif
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I think more like teasing or sarcasm? LoL, even if D800, nothing to do with need or want to edit or not.

Actually, doesn't matter commercial or for self, it's the self satisfaction and expectation. If you shoot jpeg then you have less options or flexibility to correct and apply your own processing to the photo.
JPEG is still processed, but processed by the camera using STANDARD/GENERAL or PREDEFINED processing in the camera or Nikon's proprietary processing. You can also customize slightly the processing by adjusting some parameters, but it's still applies the same for all photos, which you may not always want to.
If you want to custom and apply your own settings for EACH photo, then you shoot RAW and processed to your own preference and taste.

Think of it as cooking, you bought a raw meat; and the Camera is a standard/general device which will process the meat, it provides few selection of how you want to cook the meat and you can also find tune. For fast, you can use the pre-define setting and throw in the raw meat and let it process. So different brand device have their own predefined processing to suit different taste. So, it depends if you want to use these predefined processing or do your own processing.

You can shoot RAW, then in the camera, you can process again with different profile e.g. Standard, Portrait, Vivid, etc, which you can still adjust each profile during the processing. OR you can just process all using 1 profile; but the profile usually don't suit every settings, e.g. shooting human portrait and shooting car. So, it depends on your own satisfaction and expectation. You can be happy with the 'standard' processing result or you can feel it can be further enhance to make it better.

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Anyone using d5100 here? How much frame you can burst before the buffer filled up? Mine is like less than 10 picture only with class 6 16gb sandisk sdhc

Taking long exposure shot will take a long time for it to clar the buffer before i can shot again, if 30sec shutter it will take aroound 20-25sec to clear the buffer hmm.gif
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 4 2012, 04:23 PM)
Anyone using d5100 here? How much frame you can burst before the buffer filled up? Mine is like less than 10 picture only with class 6 16gb sandisk sdhc

Taking long exposure shot will take a long time for it to clar the buffer before i can shot again, if 30sec shutter it will take aroound 20-25sec to clear the buffer hmm.gif
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i duno...wan try my D70s long shutter? brows.gif
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 4 2012, 04:23 PM)
Anyone using d5100 here? How much frame you can burst before the buffer filled up? Mine is like less than 10 picture only with class 6 16gb sandisk sdhc

Taking long exposure shot will take a long time for it to clar the buffer before i can shot again, if 30sec shutter it will take aroound 20-25sec to clear the buffer hmm.gif
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i would guess you have auto distortion control and long exposure nr both set to on.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Apr 4 2012, 04:30 PM)
i duno...wan try my D70s long shutter?  brows.gif
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you need to wait how long shocking.gif

QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 4 2012, 04:33 PM)
i would guess you have auto distortion control and long exposure nr both set to on.
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i dont think i have the distortion control on, but i have noise reduction on and other reduction or improvement

dynamic range set to highest, color space is neutral and other settings forget

those feature affect the writing time as well? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 4 2012, 05:17 PM)
you need to wait how long shocking.gif
i dont think i have the distortion control on, but i have noise reduction on and other reduction or improvement

dynamic range set to highest, color space is neutral and other settings forget

those feature affect the writing time as well? hmm.gif
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duno, same gua...need do comparison lol.
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 4 2012, 05:17 PM)
you need to wait how long shocking.gif
i dont think i have the distortion control on, but i have noise reduction on and other reduction or improvement

dynamic range set to highest, color space is neutral and other settings forget

those feature affect the writing time as well? hmm.gif
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Yea NR on for Long exposure is the answer biggrin.gif Basically what the camera does, it takes 2 exposure. So the camera can identify which are hot pixels in the 1st exposure later on the camera will subtract the dark frame from the shot. Something like that smile.gif
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Apr 4 2012, 05:34 PM)
Yea NR on for Long exposure is the answer biggrin.gif Basically what the camera does, it takes 2 exposure. So the camera can identify which are hot pixels in the 1st exposure later on the camera will subtract the dark frame from the shot. Something like that smile.gif
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only affect long exposure if i off NR? it wont affect bust mode?

how about the dynamic range or dynamic lightning thingy at the menu? will it affect too?
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 4 2012, 05:36 PM)
only affect long exposure if i off NR? it wont affect bust mode?

how about the dynamic range or dynamic lightning thingy at the menu? will it affect too?
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There is 2 type NR, one is the normal NR, one more NR is "LONG EXPOSURE NOISE REDUCTION".

Your SD Card is Class 6, but what speed? The standard one is 6MB/sec. You shoot JPEG or RAW? or BOTH?


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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 4 2012, 05:36 PM)
only affect long exposure if i off NR? it wont affect bust mode?

how about the dynamic range or dynamic lightning thingy at the menu? will it affect too?
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The dynamic range, affect the exposure time?

Basically lets say for a correct exposure it takes 20 secs so ur 1st exposure will be at 20 secs. Later on the camera will take another exposure for another 20secs same as the 1st. thats why it takes that long..
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 4 2012, 05:42 PM)
There is 2 type NR, one is the normal NR, one more NR is "LONG EXPOSURE NOISE REDUCTION".

Your SD Card is Class 6, but what speed? The standard one is 6MB/sec. You shoot JPEG or RAW? or BOTH?
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sandisk ultra class 6 30mbps, RM89

i shot RAW only, without jpeg

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Apr 4 2012, 05:45 PM)
The dynamic range, affect the exposure time?

Basically lets say for a correct exposure it takes 20 secs so ur 1st exposure will be at 20 secs. Later on the camera will take another exposure for another 20secs same as the 1st. thats why it takes that long..
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i know what is that feature, it is called ADL lightning or something like that, i always put that in "High"

if i turned off the long exposure NR will it affect my image quality? let's say bulb mode on ISO 100, which usually has close to no noise

another problem is that my burst shutter only can burst like less than 10 frame and it started to slowdown, so if i turn off the normal noise reduction it help increase the time with the sacrifice of noisy picture on high ISO?

from the tech specs it supposed to burst 16 shots if shot on RAW ONLY hmm.gif
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Adl stands for active d lighting, I don't think you know what it does so set it to auto.. Read up your manual or google wink.gif I'm replying by phone haha very sian in kampung TT

About NR I don't know if it applies to raw because isn't raw untouched? Sorry I don't really know.. But does it matter you burst till 10 frames should be quite alot! You shoot sports?
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Apr 4 2012, 06:15 PM)
Adl stands for active d lighting, I don't think you know what it does so set it to auto.. Read up your manual or google wink.gif I'm replying by phone haha very sian in kampung TT

About NR I don't know if it applies to raw because isn't raw untouched? Sorry I don't really know.. But does it matter you burst till 10 frames should be quite alot! You shoot sports?
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sometime stage performance dont wanna miss candid moments, so i set to bust mode

sports maybe in the future

but the long buffer in long exposure is annoying, imagine you want to take firework and it took a long time to save the picture doh.gif
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QUOTE(amduser @ Apr 4 2012, 05:53 PM)
sandisk ultra class 6 30mbps, RM89

i shot RAW only, without jpeg
i know what is that feature, it is called ADL lightning or something like that, i always put that in "High"

if i turned off the long exposure NR will it affect my image quality? let's say bulb mode on ISO 100, which usually has close to no noise

another problem is that my burst shutter only can burst like less than 10 frame and it started to slowdown, so if i turn off the normal noise reduction it help increase the time with the sacrifice of noisy picture on high ISO?

from the tech specs it supposed to burst 16 shots if shot on RAW ONLY hmm.gif
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Bulb mode is exposure longer than 30s; what do you mean by burst shot in bulb mode?
Bulb mode, the shutter will be open for 30 second for 1 exposure.

Long exposure even you're on ISO 100 can have noise.

If you mean normal shot burst and you shoot raw only, then I'm not sure about D5100 buffer. Can check with Calvin.
If not check if your card is genuine.

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i think i solved the problem, turned off ADL and NR and the buffer is better now, especially long exposure

but burst shot on RAW only can go up to 10 frame before it start to slow down, will try on my friend's class 10 again

i dont think my class 6 is fake, but i didnt check when i buy la tongue.gif
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if you read the D5100 manual, i'm sure it also states the buffer is only 16 RAW shots.
and the buffer will start to slow once it reaches anywhere near there.

also sports shooters mostly shoot jpg.
until the D4 appeared, which lets you shoot 11fps in RAW with no slowdown due to a very big buffer.


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Speaking of bursting with RAW, I did a few times already at Super GT... mainly because I was shooting RAW for the RQ and JPEG for the panning shots, but most of the time I didn't notice I was on RAW for the cars until I noticed how come so little shots left LOL. It didn't slow down or rather buffer still holding up for my D700 at 8fps.

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