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 GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND

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Kokolat
post Oct 5 2012, 04:06 PM

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Not sure did anyone share the information below:

Please be aware of this list published by Bank Negara Malaysia (Original link: Report) containing 87 companies, many of them purportedly dealing in “gold investments”, which are not authorised nor approved under the relevant laws and regulations administered by BNM. Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd has been in this watch list since 13th July 2012.

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Name of unauthorised entities/individual (Website)
1globalcash
1Gold.com.my (www.1gold.com.my)
Al-Saliha Worlwide Sdn. Bhd.
Amsyiq Gold Enterprise
AU Niaga Sdn. Bhd.
AU79 International
Azea Property Sdn Bhd (www.azeapropertyinvestment.com)
Bumi Klasik Warisan Enterprise
Caesar Gold Sdn Bhd
Cakera Ringgit Sdn. Bhd
CGF Fine Metal Sdn Bhd
Dana Haji Jasman
Degold Empire S/B
DNA Profile Sdn. Bhd
Eagle Aeronautics (M) Sdn Bhd
East Cape Mining Corp
Extra Capital Programme (http://extracapitalprogram.com)
Ezey Marketing
FE Brands (M) S/B
Flexsy Enterprise & Barrilorne Corp
FNZ Capital Limited (www.intelfx.com)
Future Trade Indojaya Sdn Bhd (http://ftindojaya.blogspot.com/www.ft-indojaya.com)
FX Primus
Gain FX Capital S/B (www.gainfxcapital.org)
Gan Patt Services
Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd
GGF Golden House Sdn Bhd
Global Creation Trading
Global Peace Loving Family (www.globalpeacelf.com)
Global Venture Financing (http://globalventurefinancing.com)
Gorgeous Chain Sdn. Bhd.
Great Access Sdn. Bhd.
Greenmillion Agrosolution Enterprise (http://greenmillionagrisolution.blogspot.com)
Hexa Commerce Sdn Bhd
Honest Group Ltd
Iconhill Holding Sdn Bhd
IGC Diamond
Instaforex
Isothree Gold Sdn. Bhd.
Jalatama Management Sdn Bhd (www.jalatama.com)
Jazlaan Enterprise
JM Communications & Technology Sdn Bhd
JMI Global
JTGold
Kris Plus Enterprise
Lestari2U www.lestari2u.com
Liberty Reserve (www.libertyreserve.com)
Life Time Holidays Sdn. Bhd.
LocalAdClick (http://localadclick.net)
Mari Wholesale (M) S/B
Mega Dynasty S/B
Megaherbs Bioextreme
One AutoCash (www.clubautocash.com/www.1autocash.com)
Pageantry Gold Berhad
Pancar Mayang Sdn Bhd
Pars Pay Sdn. Bhd.
Prestige Dairy Farm
Program 10 Bulan
Program I-Rich
Projek Duit 2012
Provisio Multimedia
Public Gold Sdn Bhd (www.publicgold.com.my)
Real Ingenious S/B (www.worldfocus.co)
RGCX Trading Corp (http://www.goldrgcx.com/richman8/www.rapidgcx.com)
RMMUDAH.COM
Rowther Technologies MSC Sdn Bhd
Royal Gold Sdn Bhd (http://royalgolds.com)
RS Capital Holdings Bhd
SGFM Trading Sdn Bhd
Slimberry Extreme Team (http://zatslimberry.blogspot.com/slimberryxtreme.com)
Speedline (www.speedline-inc.com)
Sri Perkasa Emas Trading
Suliz Pearl Mines
Swiss Capital Venture
Syarikat GECS Ltd
Syarikat OLTA Capital Management Inc
Syarikat Sri Alam
Tabung Dana Ehsan
Titan Group Sdn. Bhd
TukarGold.net (www.tukargold.net)
Urustabil Sdn Bhd
VC Gold Sdn. Bhd.
Vertical Dragon Sdn. Bhd.
Virgin Gold Mining Corporation
Worldwide Far East Berhad
XOC7
Zeta Capital Management
This post has been edited by Kokolat: Oct 5 2012, 04:09 PM
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post Oct 5 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(captainallianz @ Oct 5 2012, 02:55 PM)
Sorry to hear that you kena scam.  rclxms.gif
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If you care to read this thread you should know gennevs scammin me is an âbsolute remote event
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post Oct 5 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Kokolat @ Oct 5 2012, 04:06 PM)
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Actually, I noted that some companies there are actually something like adsense. I really wonder how is it become scam or black listed.

Instaforex is a really amazing find to be in the list, Instaforex has already WON so many Asia's Best Broker awards.

This post has been edited by celicaizpower: Oct 5 2012, 04:25 PM
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post Oct 5 2012, 04:38 PM

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They were trying to hide things from people.
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post Oct 5 2012, 05:01 PM

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i heard some banks also being victims ?
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post Oct 5 2012, 05:06 PM

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post Oct 5 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Oct 5 2012, 05:06 PM)
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Wow, it's ori then... who cut it? 100g is about RM 21,000 each man... woah...
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post Oct 5 2012, 05:17 PM

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the gold bar look mixed with copper..
i can see copperish color.

since it have been cut.
better analysis it..

There is a lab at setapak which can do that.


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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Oct 5 2012, 05:06 PM)
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looks reddish... could be the quality of the image, or copper.

any1 did the lab test yet?
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post Oct 5 2012, 05:32 PM

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erm, isn't copper less dense than gold? take a densimeter can measure? anyone did it?
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post Oct 5 2012, 05:50 PM

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the gold is very likely to be real. their business model is to take the new investors money to pay the old investors. it's a little complicated for most people hence many people cannot understand how that works. the company won't hurt their chance for continuing the business by using a fake gold. because once a person found out it's fake, the whole business is collapse. a ponzi scheme is designed to failed when it grown too big, not by having a fake product.
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Oh oh....the offense including having unlicensed agents?

U mean all the smart Alec's in YouTube need to sit for an exam?

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post Oct 5 2012, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 5 2012, 04:22 PM)
Actually, I noted that some companies there are actually something like adsense. I really wonder how is it become scam or black listed.

Instaforex is a really amazing find to be in the list, Instaforex has already WON so many Asia's Best Broker awards.
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ROFL... you think I will believe you or Bank Negara?
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post Oct 5 2012, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kokolat @ Oct 5 2012, 06:00 PM)
ROFL... you think I will believe you or Bank Negara?
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Why you need to believe me in the 1st place bro? I never ask you to trust me, it is your own choice to trust or not.

come I give you the link:

http://instaforex.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InstaForex

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post Oct 5 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(merce @ Oct 5 2012, 02:57 PM)
look what i found!!!!

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=..._ref_map=%5B%5D
Genneva, a new age biz model

I HAVE been an entrepreneur and business consultant for over 18 years and have had the chance to study and formulate hundreds of business plans and financial models for various global brand multinational corporations (MNCs), SMEs as well as governments all over the world.

I am also an active investor and have invested my own money in a myriad of investment products and trading systems for over 15 years.

About two-and-a-half years ago, I was introduced to Genneva Malaysia’s business model.

The business model of Genneva is truly revolutionary, innovative and true to its spirit – a blue-ocean business strategy.
These are the same principles that our current Malaysian Government wants us to practise and build on.

The 24% to 36% returns that Genneva Malaysia offers is achievable because its underlying asset is physical gold bullion, plus Genneva Malaysia has an innovative system to generate even greater returns as a company.

Getting a return of +25% per annum with an upside of around +40% is possible with several trading and hedging systems.

It profits from every gram of gold they sell to clients at retail prices. Combined with the increasing price of gold plus with the hedging systems I just indicated, giving 24% to 36% every year is possible.

Genneva Malaysia’s business model is not a ponzi scheme and it’s definitely not a get-rich-quick scheme. Its business model is called a Wealth Sharing Platform, because that is what Genneva truly does. It shares its profit (and wealth) with its clients.

Genneva Malaysia’s biz is the new age biz model.

And what started as a Buatan Malaysia, five years ago, has since grown into one of the leading gold bullion traders across Asia with businesses in Singapore, the Philippines, Hong Kong and China (where Genneva has a 30-year operating licence in Beijing).

Anything new takes time to understand and lots of resistance to change, especially when there are incumbents whose business will be affected by such change and new models.

We, the customers, are truly grateful there is a Genneva Malaysia.

You may kill Genneva, but another will rise tomorrow with the same proven business model. It’s a matter of time that the banks and financial institutions will need to also adjust and change with the times.

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not sure if he is a forumer in LYN... but 15 years of investments experience and he still cant tell how a ponzi scheme looks like, i really dunno what to say...

really a sad case. doh.gif
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This is a nonsense from the above mentioned consultant. I was a member of director board in a multi-national company for many years. I run a business with Sdn Bhd registration as well. I read so many business plans and company performance reports. I had participated in uncountable business growth workshops in oversea. My experience concluded that 24%-36% ROI can only be achieved once in a blue moon. It is meaningless for taking it as average. Nobody dares to run legitimate business based on that target.

I always like to say - Warren Buffett makes 18%-20% average ROI for his more than 50 years investment life.

Ask this question to yourself - Who are you? Can you do something better than Warren Buffett?

Usain Bolt is the fastest runner in the world. He scored 9.63 seconds in his 100m in Olympic 2012. 9.63 seconds is the benchmark for today's human being in the world. Do you believe in someone says he can run less than 9.63 seconds?

Similarly, the achievement by Warren Buffett has already became an benchmark in investment field. Don't simply say you can do better than him.

If you have this benchmark in your mind, many investment traps will be avoided.














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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Oct 5 2012, 06:52 PM)
Woah! that's alot... kesian the investors...
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Woah, still so many diehard supporters in FB that accused gov and BNM robbed their gold laugh.gif
Never blame themselves for making mistakes laugh.gif

But good also la, these ppl will hate the gov more and the coming election, more votes will swing to the opposition laugh.gif
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Oct 5 2012, 07:50 PM)
Woah, still so many diehard supporters in FB that accused gov and BNM robbed their gold  laugh.gif
Never blame themselves for making mistakes  laugh.gif

But good also la, these ppl will hate the gov more and the coming election, more votes will swing to the opposition  laugh.gif
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Since they claimed that they were solely buying and selling gold. So the gold must already held by them.

WHy they claimed such gold are belonging to them? Unless that they give the gold back to the company so can get higher interest.
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Abu buy gold
Abu take gold
Abu let Gene keep the gold
Abu get monthly hibah from Gene
Gene take Abu's gold and sell to Ah Beng
Ah Beng let Gene keep the gold
Ah Beng get monthly hibah...

and it repeats and repeats and repeats...

If Genneva's gold bar depository has all the gold intact, Genneva investors customers worry for what?

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