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post Mar 18 2012, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(ZRong223 @ Mar 18 2012, 09:42 PM)
I have read so much about the ending and now I concluded a thing for myself.
As you can see in the game, the Destroy route is red (Renegade) and left is Control (Paragon). Let's say that the indoctrination theory is true.
If you go for Control, I don't think it's a Paragon choice. You will get indoctrinated.
If you go for Synthesis, you will die and you will not run away from indoctrination also.
If you go for Destroy, all synthetics are destroyed, but you still have a chance to survive (he/she is still BREATHING!!!!)
So, Destroy is the best choice at here.

Think carefully...
I have no idea of what will happen if I choose Control. But Shephard DIE!!! (And if the indoctrination theory is ture, this choice will not change anything)
I'm not going to let all organics to involve themselves to synthesis. ORGANICS ARE THE MASTER OF NATURE!!
It's hard to choose Destroy, because it's sad that Geth and EDI will gone...

In my storyline, I have chosen Synthesis (which I felt that it's a wrong choice), as it seems that Synthesis will provide the best ending for this story.

I will go for Destroy by restarting the previous mission.
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>Destroy ending
>Destroy all technological advances as well as Mass Relays
>Best choice


If you think sending everyone into the Dark Ages is a good choice, then I have no words.
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Mar 18 2012, 08:54 PM)

>Destroy ending
>Destroy all technological advances as well as Mass Relays
>Best choice


If you think sending everyone into the Dark Ages is a good choice, then I have no words.
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Heh... Sorry that I'm not thinking about destroy of technological advances.
Well I surrender. I still don't know which one is the best choice. doh.gif

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post Mar 18 2012, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Mar 18 2012, 08:45 PM)
MARAUDER SHIELDS TRIED TO WARN YA!

Y U NO LISTEN?
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Oh crap, I FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE FINAL BOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS shocking.gif shocking.gif

due respect , RIP Marauder Shield . The Enemy of the Past ~ notworthy.gif

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post Mar 18 2012, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(ZRong223 @ Mar 18 2012, 09:03 PM)
Heh... Sorry that I'm not thinking about destroy of technological advances.
Well I surrender. I still don't know which one is the best choice.  doh.gif
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There is no best choice. They are all just that, choices. And depending on your moral compass, the best choice will be different.
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:41 PM

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I think they cut the contents bcoz according to the system require , hdd capacity needed would be 15GB or more . but i check the file size around 11GB...i wonder where the cutted content go....i know its look weird to compare the actual size with recommended hdd capacity but...just my opinion...

if really they cut the contents that have real ending on it... hmm.gif

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post Mar 18 2012, 10:08 PM

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First play through , I was like WoW. It totally made sense because nobody knew the interior of the citadel. Remember the creatures in the citadel , I mean if you magically 'tweak' them (like you did in ME1) , they just know it and 'repair' themselves . Nobody knows where they come from but they have a constant number.

Next up was how in the world Illusive Dude entered. No idea , but that was kinda odd and unusual . Oh well , the most awesome part that I thought was the Catalyst and the joke was you were told. There was no way to 'argue' with the dude on the deeds you have done or did he mention anything about it (such as uniting the quarians and the geth)


Oh okay fair enough. A choice had to be made , so I picked Destroy method which means goodbye to all pure synthetic. Reason I picked cause I thought I could have an happy ending with Ash. Nope , that did not work.

So replayed again tried the other two and yet the same ol' ending . Fair enough , but one part I did not get was the grandpa telling tales to his grandson.

The joke was after all that , you are presented with a dialog box saying 'OH LULZ , PLS BUY MOAR DLC'. This really put me off. Seriously ? After that bad ending which I was truly disappointed , EA have the guts to tell me that get more content with DLC.

Ugh I hope EA puts up the DLC for free even if they decided to fix the ending which I highly doubt
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post Mar 18 2012, 10:12 PM

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take whatever ending u want , still same and that's the problem in the 1st place sweat.gif
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:42 AM

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conclusion: money come first, get dlc for more...
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post Mar 19 2012, 05:58 AM

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You people need to chill
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post Mar 19 2012, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Mar 19 2012, 05:58 AM)
You people need to chill
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No doubt. Especially the island shit. Doesnt make any sense at all. doh.gif
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post Mar 19 2012, 10:00 AM

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So true so true
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post Mar 19 2012, 10:44 AM

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Pretty good view

http://www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-3/61-...ence/35-539298/?

I did read this and I kinda support the theory now. You gotta give credits to this guy for finding the evidence
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post Mar 19 2012, 11:01 AM

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IMO after reading some forums.... i think there r 2 camps of ppl who r raging about the ending..

the 1st camp is raging about the abrupt ending wif no big boss fight.. (ME1 had saren, ME2 had the human reaper)... quite a WTF for me coz i guess i am used to fighting a unique boss at the end of every game...

the 2nd camp is raging about how the story ended... mindfucuk then... but now interesting to read alot of fan theories online

oh yes.. i am quite peeved with the last msg from bioware asking us to buy more DLCs.. but i know i am still gonna get them all.. i am a sucker
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QUOTE(prasys @ Mar 19 2012, 10:44 AM)
Pretty good view

http://www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-3/61-...ence/35-539298/?

I did read this and I kinda support the theory now. You gotta give credits to this guy for finding the evidence
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Actually, it all sounds pretty magnificent and at the same time a disgusting ploy to get people to buy DLC.
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QUOTE(hahli9 @ Mar 19 2012, 11:20 AM)
Actually, it all sounds pretty magnificent and at the same time a disgusting ploy to get people to buy DLC.
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If they're charging for DLCs, I'm just going to wait them out till they release a GOTY version.

Shitty corporate practices like these should not be rewarded.
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QUOTE(seather @ Mar 19 2012, 11:01 AM)
the 1st camp is raging about the abrupt ending wif no big boss fight.. (ME1 had saren, ME2 had the human reaper)... quite a WTF for me coz i guess i am used to fighting a unique boss at the end of every game...
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Marauder Shields would want a word with you laugh.gif
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post Mar 19 2012, 11:54 AM

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OK the endings sucked. I'm not making apologies for bioware because they did drop the ball towards the end of the game.

I'm on my 2nd playthrough, after finishing the 1st playthrough on the PC with a ME1&2 imported save, and the moral choices that you make are even bleaker with "canon" shepard conditions.

You never helped subject zero come to terms with the crap that she went through so no Jack at Grissom academy, so some students will die.

Wrex is dead, so you pretty much screw yourself and everyone else by curing the Genophage because Wreav is in charge. No matter what you do, Eve will die. Mordin lives and you get the Salarian fleet if you lie about curing the Genophage.

Thane - dead, so he doesn't come to rescue the Salarian councilor from kailan. So if you cured the Genophage, you're stuck without a Salarian fleet. You also miss out on his sadding and emotional death scene.

No Samara, so there's no real context in that ardat-yakshi mission apart from introducing banshees as enemies.

Canon Shepard never met legion or saved tali from being exiled. Essentially, you're forced to make a genocidal decision either way and there's no way you can broker peace between geth and quarrian. I suppose causing the extinction of one species is no biggie since canon shepard has already killed off the last Rachni queen anyway.

bullet point: It's really hard to play paragon canon Shepard.

I suppose all this can be seen as rewarding players who played and enjoyed the prequels. Seeing the contrast between import and no import really helped me to see how my paragon shepard's decisions helped shaped the ME universe and and appreciate how they closed off the various storylines. The point I'm making in this post is that apart from the tricolour ending, ME3 was pretty much one long endgame right from the start. My Femshep has never been shaped by the familiar RPG trope thats about levelling up, collecting party members and gear to save world etc. It's always been about how her character has been shaped by all those decisions involving her friends, races and worlds that she's encountered.

To say what you do at the end doesn't matter is bullshit because i cured the genophage and helped the Krogan into a new renaissance, helped the Geth evolve to true sentient beings, brought peace to the geth and quarrians and basically united ALL the races. That is a pretty legendary feat.

Considering you spend the last talky area saying goodbye to practically everyone you've ever worked with in the ME3, particularly in that ridiculous quantum telephone room where everyone you call just so happens to be home. Shepard had to die.

3 button ending? Fine. So i picked the control ending which meant that all the decisions I made could take effect, the humans, turians, asaris - everyone basically could rebuild in peace as I'd saved the galaxy from the reapers, I'd broken the 50k cycle.





AND THEN THEY DO THE BLUE EXPLOSION SHIT..

So basically I enjoyed 98% of the game, and that final 2% troll ending really pissed me off.
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Mar 19 2012, 11:54 AM)
OK the endings sucked.  I'm not making apologies for bioware because they did drop the ball towards the end of the game.

I'm on my 2nd playthrough, after finishing the 1st playthrough on the PC with a ME1&2 imported save, and the moral choices that you make are even bleaker with "canon" shepard conditions.

You never helped subject zero come to terms with the crap that she went through so no Jack at Grissom academy, so some students will die.

Wrex is dead, so you pretty much screw yourself and everyone else by curing the Genophage because Wreav is in charge.  No matter what you do, Eve will die.  Mordin lives and you get the Salarian fleet if you lie about curing the Genophage.

Thane - dead, so he doesn't come to rescue the Salarian councilor from kailan.  So if you cured the Genophage, you're stuck without a Salarian fleet.  You also miss out on his sadding and emotional death scene.

No Samara, so there's no real context in that ardat-yakshi mission apart from introducing banshees as enemies.

Canon Shepard never met legion or saved tali from being exiled.  Essentially, you're forced to make a genocidal decision either way and there's no way you can broker peace between geth and quarrian.  I suppose causing the extinction of one species is no biggie since canon shepard has already killed off the last Rachni queen anyway.

bullet point: It's really hard to play paragon canon Shepard.

I suppose all this can be seen as rewarding players who played and enjoyed the prequels.  Seeing the contrast between import and no import really helped me to see how my paragon shepard's decisions helped shaped the ME universe and and appreciate how they closed off the various storylines.  The point I'm making in this post is that apart from the tricolour ending, ME3 was pretty much one long endgame right from the start.  My Femshep has never been shaped by the familiar RPG trope thats about levelling up, collecting party members and gear to save world etc.  It's always been about how her character has been shaped by all those decisions involving her friends, races and worlds that she's encountered.

To say what you do at the end doesn't matter is bullshit because i cured the genophage and helped the Krogan into a new renaissance, helped the Geth evolve to true sentient beings, brought peace to the geth and quarrians and basically united ALL the races.  That is a pretty legendary feat.

Considering you spend the last talky area saying goodbye to practically everyone you've ever worked with in the ME3, particularly in that ridiculous quantum telephone room where everyone you call just so happens to be home.  Shepard had to die.

3 button ending? Fine.  So i picked the control ending which meant that all the decisions I made could take effect, the humans, turians, asaris - everyone basically could rebuild in peace as I'd saved the galaxy from the reapers, I'd broken the 50k cycle.
AND THEN THEY DO THE BLUE EXPLOSION SHIT..

So basically I enjoyed 98% of the game, and that final 2% troll ending really pissed me off.
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Agreed. But the problem is, with the relays gone, how does galactic life move on? Seeing how we've depended on the relays. As Vigil said in ME1, we developed along the paths they desired. Our governments were centred at the Citadel. Easy prey for the Reapers.

ME3's ending just shook up my understanding of the whole Reaper thing. Suddenly the Citadel is the Catalyst. Wooookay.

I enjoyed ME3's journey. Enjoying it again finding snippets of dialogue I missed the first time. I am interested in starting from ME1 again and playing a Renegade, saving Kaidan vs Ashley, romancing someone else, saving the Rachni Queen, Collector Base and Heretics, etc. I actually have to restart from ME1 again to change things in ME3.

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post Mar 19 2012, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Mar 19 2012, 12:17 PM)
Agreed. But the problem is, with the relays gone, how does galactic life move on? Seeing how we've depended on the relays. As Vigil said in ME1, we developed along the paths they desired. Our governments were centred at the Citadel. Easy prey for the Reapers.

ME3's ending just shook up my understanding of the whole Reaper thing. Suddenly the Citadel is the Catalyst. Wooookay.

I enjoyed ME3's journey. Enjoying it again finding snippets of dialogue I missed the first time. I am interested in starting from ME1 again and playing a Renegade, saving Kaidan vs Ashley, romancing someone else, saving the Rachni Queen, Collector Base and Heretics, etc. I actually have to restart from ME1 again to change things in ME3.
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Yeah, according to choice you were given, the relays weren't meant to be destroyed in the control or synthesis endings. So i take it they weren't destroyed irrespective of what the lazy pre rendered 3 colour cutscene showed. Besides, even if the relays are broken you can still communicate through the bad science fiction of quantum entanglement and presumably fix them. But I'm trying hard here not to fall into the denial trap and start creating desperate fan fiction to try to rationalise what wasn't very good science fiction in the first place.

In my game I died in the believe that everything I did up to that moment was in line with my paragon character. After that point, there's no more role-play, you're dead.

I think I would just mod the save game if i were you. I really didn't enjoy all that planet scanning and exploration "content" crap they had in the 1st 2 games. UGH.

Re saving Rachni Queen, there's no other benefit other than Rachni being really useful in the construction of the crucible.


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