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post Mar 9 2012, 02:23 PM

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The rage about the endings is quite informative.

Is it too hard to ask for a Dragon Age: Origins style ending?
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post Mar 9 2012, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Mar 9 2012, 02:45 PM)
Bioware got lazy after Dragon Age 2, sadly.  sad.gif  Let's hope they don't destroy Baldur's Gate 3 or Jade Empire 2.
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To be honest, I'd been compelled to get the game had the ending was anything but this, even if I had to install Origins and what-not. Hell, I wouldn't have minded Shepard dying. (I sacrificed my mage in DA:O to kill the Darkspawn dragon. It was worth every emotional rollercoaster along the way.)

But this ending...

I feel cheated of my hundreds of hours in ME1 and ME2.

Needless to say, I'll just get this once it is GOTY to see how's the ride to the end is like (this one I heard people unanimously praise) and try to ignore the last five minutes of Bioware saying **** you to the fans of the setting.
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post Mar 9 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Mar 9 2012, 05:08 PM)
The story progression is rather good, there are a few moments in the game which can take your breath away, or make your jaw drop, or make you cry your heart out, however you'll be appalled with the story linearity and lack of choices in the game. Basically, the game can only be played in one way, and that's it.

As I like to say, it's Modern Warfare 3 in space. The game will just hold your hand throughout the entire story.  whistling.gif
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Heh. That doesn't sound good for a game that sells itself on "CHOICES MATTER, THE GALAXY LIVES OR DIE BASED ON IT". The galaxy dies anyway, no matter what you do.

Inb4BrokenSteelDLCforME3togettherealending. tongue.gif
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post Mar 9 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Mar 9 2012, 05:27 PM)
I thought that ending was just as bad. Unleash the soul of the Old God or die. Nice right?

I don't get the rage around the endings. Anyhow I was prepared for lots of people to die including Shepard back in 2007.

People dying and tragedy seem to make a story better for me, versus overly happy scenes. If I wanted happy I could go play Sims or something.
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Hey, at least it provided closure, something which Mass Effect 3 failed to do.

The problem wasn't that it was full of tragedy or anything. Give how big a threat the reapers are, it would make sense that the galaxy would be embroiled in a bloody war.

But you know what ME3 did? They invalidated all your efforts, used a magical space MacGuffin to resolve the plot and left the fate of everyone else unanswered. You united the galaxy against the Reapers. lolgoodjobbrah, now magical space macguffin shall destroy all reapers and strand everyone in Sol. Also, you just sent the galaxy into a new dark age. Congrats bro, you're a winner.

Even my initial predictions that the Reapers would roll over everyone anyway and start the cycle anew seems like a better ending. At least you knew you tried your best, and your best just wasn't enough. That would be both a tragic ending, and one that actually made sense.

Don't get me wrong, I think the game is awesome, and reviews do agree with me. But the ending is just lazy, and could have been handled so much better. Why am I posting here when I don't even have the game? Because I like the setting and this kind of shoddy end just smacks me in the face.
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post Mar 9 2012, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Mar 9 2012, 08:18 PM)
Bioware trolled the shit out of all of us.
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This is probably a concise summary of this game.
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post Mar 10 2012, 02:17 AM

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The fan rage over at BSN is astounding.

This doesn't even include the Europeans, who only received their games today.

EDIT:
Telling poll is telling.
http://social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989



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post Mar 10 2012, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(SteamieHP @ Mar 10 2012, 12:31 PM)
make a petition. ask them to create better endings. lol
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*cough* Broken Steel DLC *cough*

No, seriously. I want the option to show that space Jesus a middle finger. If anyone deserved it, it was that smug AI.
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post Mar 12 2012, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Mar 12 2012, 08:37 PM)
man u guys weren't kidding. all the endings sucked balls! it's like the writers just gave up thinking about it and just went with the three most derpiest..

i don't mind Shepard dying but i was really hoping for a Fallout-esque (see New Vegas) kind of closure for everyone else. They don't even have to make a cutscene..

as for the rest of the game i thought it was great.
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What a way to cap such a great game huh?
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post Mar 12 2012, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Mar 12 2012, 10:12 PM)
there's one other thing i don't get. what the heck was the Normandy doing in the end? outrunning the Crucible beam?

WHY???  rclxub.gif
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Shoddy writing and plotholes. tongue.gif

Normandy has a secret plothole device that allows them to escape.

No, seriously, that scene was just wrong. The Joker I know would never abandon Shepard.
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post Mar 12 2012, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Mar 12 2012, 10:26 PM)
and ending did suck but somewhat true if they didn't had such ending, the storyline will never end. Eventually, somebody will fight and Shepard have to be the universe saviour again and again.
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Not really.

Shepard would say, "I saved the ****ing galaxy from the Reapers. Go sort this yourself. Imma gonna bang Liara." tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2012, 10:39 PM

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Oh, btw, on Kai Leng, you should read this for what he does during Mass Effect: Deception.

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The rest can be found here.

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post Mar 13 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(xXAgent47Xx @ Mar 13 2012, 12:27 AM)
So apparently in one of the endings, my shepard is still on london under a pile of rubble after the whole blow up and destroy the reapers thing. Hm....
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That is why the hallucination theory is so popular.

Or alternatively, he managed to survive both the explosion of the Citadel and atmospheric re-entry into Earth to land in London.
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post Mar 13 2012, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Mar 13 2012, 12:34 AM)
Also the kid was unnecessary... I do prefer it ending before the kid. Reapers win, end story. Or Shepard dying breath manage to magically activate the Crucible then get blown up and die. Hm then he wouldn't know he would be dooming the galaxy to a dark age... ehehe.
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That right there is preferable to the mess we got right now. Because at least it makes sense.

I feel you bro. It's like an end to an era. sad.gif

EDIT: @hallucination
Fan-theory goes that he didn't trigger the Crucible. It was all an attempt by Harbringer to indoctrinate Shepard into siding with the Reapers. Or something. It gets rather messy.

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post Mar 13 2012, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Mar 13 2012, 12:51 AM)
Maybe it should've been like this?  hmm.gif
I just had catharsis watching that ending.


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Damn.

The Vigil song was a nice touch. I cried manly tears.

EDIT: I noticed a trend. Anything without that stupid Space Jesus was infinitely better. Even this chopped up ending was miles better.

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post Mar 14 2012, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Katsuke @ Mar 14 2012, 03:05 AM)
Stupid kid. Shepard can survive Mass Effect 1 and 2, killing and letting team mates die but he has nightmares about a dumb kid.

I can't tahan the ending with the kid saying "I am the Citadel"....Omg lah. I HATE KIDS.
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Space Jesus never happened. You hear me?

It was all a fail attempt by Harby to indoctrinate Shepard.
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post Mar 14 2012, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(ray148 @ Mar 14 2012, 06:27 PM)
ppl has been saying that bringing javik into thessia triggers many unique dialogue.

gonna try that on my second playthrough in the next few days/weeks. need to cool down on the ending first.
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What I heard as well. I think he reveals quite a bit of background information on Thessia.

EDIT: I think you guys would like this.

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post Mar 14 2012, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(ray148 @ Mar 14 2012, 08:30 PM)
can we talk about something else other than how bad the ending now?

i thought the scene that lead to the ending was brilliant.
starting from the moment when Harbinger sudden descent, n everyone desperately rush to the beam. i was like holysh!t!!  shocking.gif .
then the music as u walk to the "space magic color" was totally complement how i feel at that scene, mindfucuk. sweat.gif
definitely not something i was expecting.

oh yeah, now reading all the comments regarding the ending. i'm starting to feel depressed. sad.gif
i hope there's an epilogue dlc or something. i dun care if it cost money at this point, no matter how wrong i feel if they do this.
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I watched the space battle on Earth on youtube. Dayum, it was goddamn awesome. That was actually what I was waiting for since the ME1 Citadel Battle and ME2 Normandy Run to the Collector's Base.

Hm. Interesting topic I found.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/995452-mass-effect-3/62230265

If this was the ending, I'd go out and buy the damn game without a second thought. Plus it fits the ending that Bioware always does. (Massive sacrifice or uncertainty for the future.)

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post Mar 16 2012, 03:45 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 16 2012, 03:04 AM)
Wow, the ending is absolutely rubbish. What the hell is Bioware smoking while they made this ending? Its so bad with the current ending because your choices didnt matter at all. And then, being a renegade and paragon isnt any different at the end of the day.

I'll just take it as the ending if the Mass Effect trilogy ends with shepard dies while running up to the beams to citadel. Anything after that is just crap. Especially the space kid part. The whole game starts to go down hill after Rannoch. The space kid part is still alright, but after that with joker running away and the island thing, thats just weird.

Even MW3's ending is more satisfying than this. At least there is a conclusion, unlike this messy pile of crap.

This video talks about indoctrination. That made the ending more bearable, but that means, more DLCs. Well played, EA. Wont be buying your games anymore.



I dont mind shepard dies or some emo ending, but if you shove a half assed ending into the game, that isnt acceptable.
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Space Jesus never happened. Shepard was hallucinating.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 16 2012, 03:49 AM)
As i have said in my previous post, he is hallucinating due to indoctrination. Then, it just ends like that.
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Naw, he got up like a MAN like proceeded to kick Harbringer in the balls.

Nobody indoctrinates Shepard and gets away with it! tongue.gif
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post Mar 17 2012, 12:26 AM

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I mean, ME1 and ME2 is available on Steam even. There's no reason not to get both. They excel in different ways, ME1 for story and RPG-like elements (and the Mako. It's bloody fun.) while ME2 shines for its more streamlined gameplay and character development.

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