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gaeria84
post Mar 9 2012, 12:50 PM

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Anyone liked the endings?

My thoughts on the endings.

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It was the ending the series deserved, but IMO, the endings just failed to cater for everyone. Some people would love a dark ending, some a fairy tale ending, while some others, everything in between. Different gamers have different motivations and expectations when playing this game, and the end result implied that all our choices, all our hardwork never really mattered. Bioware never gave us the power to decide how it all should go down. Instead of giving us many roads going in different directions, Bioware only gave us a road with many lanes, all going in one direction.


Now for some explanation to the ending.

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Reapers exist to reap advanced civilizations every 50000 years for one singular purpose. Reapers wipe out advanced civilizations to prevent organics from reaching tech singularity, creating synthetics which will in turn, wipe out organics.

Wait, what? You heard that right.

In a nutshell, synthetics wipe out organics to prevent organics from creating synthetics which will wipe out organics.

rclxub.gif Confused? You should be.

The only difference. Reapers seek to eradicate and harvest, in doing so, they preserve a civilization in reaper form. They only eradicate advanced civilizations, leaving the lesser civilizations intact. Whereas, synthetics, once reaching tech singularity, will eventually surpass their creators and supercede them, wiping them out completely. And they will continue to expand, eventually wiping out everything completely.

Hence, the reapers created the cycle. The citadel and mass relays were all created by the reapers, in order to funnel civilization after civilization into a singular path, predictable and can be easily countered by the reapers.

In the ending, no matter which path you take, the mass relays will be destroyed, indicating an uncertain yet promising future, a future where the reapers do not have a hidden hand in it.


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post Mar 9 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Mar 9 2012, 01:18 PM)
is there anyway to prevent Tali from jumping? i had to resort for the geths because they are more powerful
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If you choose the geth, Tali will kill herself no matter what you do.

IMO, don't choose the geth if you're gonna destroy the reapers in the end. It's counter-productive. smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Mar 9 2012, 02:23 PM)
The rage about the endings is quite informative.

Is it too hard to ask for a Dragon Age: Origins style ending?
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Bioware got lazy after Dragon Age 2, sadly. sad.gif Let's hope they don't destroy Baldur's Gate 3 or Jade Empire 2.

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Catalyst: You have choice, more than you deserve.
Shepard: Okay, three choices right? What happens if I choose this?
Catalyst: All relays will be destroyed. And you will die.
Shepard: What about this one?
Catalyst: You die.
Shepard: And this one?
Catalyst: You die.
Shepard: I don't have a choice, do I?
Catalyst: Nope.


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post Mar 9 2012, 03:40 PM

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Who cried when Mordin died? I know I did blush.gif


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post Mar 9 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Mar 9 2012, 03:50 PM)
You can survive the Destroy ending if your War Efforts exceed 4000 (if you saved Anderson in the end) or 5000 (regardless of whether or not you save Anderson)

Other than that, no.

You die.
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I'm halfway through the story, and I already have 4000+ EMS and 80% galactic readiness. flex.gif
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post Mar 9 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Mar 9 2012, 05:03 PM)
To be honest, I'd been compelled to get the game had the ending was anything but this, even if I had to install Origins and what-not. Hell, I wouldn't have minded Shepard dying. (I sacrificed my mage in DA:O to kill the Darkspawn dragon. It was worth every emotional rollercoaster along the way.)

But this ending...

I feel cheated of my hundreds of hours in ME1 and ME2.

Needless to say, I'll just get this once it is GOTY to see how's the ride to the end is like (this one I heard people unanimously praise) and try to ignore the last five minutes of Bioware saying **** you to the fans of the setting.
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The story progression is rather good, there are a few moments in the game which can take your breath away, or make your jaw drop, or make you cry your heart out, however you'll be appalled with the story linearity and lack of choices in the game. Basically, the game can only be played in one way, and that's it.

As I like to say, it's Modern Warfare 3 in space. The game will just hold your hand throughout the entire story. whistling.gif

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post Mar 9 2012, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Mar 9 2012, 05:27 PM)
I thought that ending was just as bad. Unleash the soul of the Old God or die. Nice right?

I don't get the rage around the endings. Anyhow I was prepared for lots of people to die including Shepard back in 2007.

People dying and tragedy seem to make a story better for me, versus overly happy scenes. If I wanted happy I could go play Sims or something.
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DA:O is leagues ahead of ME3 in terms of storytelling. DA:O has countless story arcs and multiple choices which can radically change the story.

Nothing wrong with the endings. Problem has always been the lack of choices.
Bioware could've written both happy and sad endings into the game, and let players choose which ending they like but they were apparently too lazy to do that. laugh.gif

So lazy, in fact, they had to plagiarize Tali's face, and several other stuff in the game. sweat.gif

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EA: So, will the game be ready by March 6?
Bioware: No, not yet. Just finished writing the bad ending. Still working on the good ending.
EA: Okay, what is the bad ending going to be like?
Bioware: Oh, you know... mass relays gets destroyed, shepard dies, you know the usual stuff. In fact, to make the ending more sinister, we intend to maroon all of Shepard's crew on an unknown planet and then fade to black to add more insult to injury.
EA: What will the good ending be like?
Bioware: We intend to write closing scripts for everything and everyone the player has come across in the game. It will please our fans immensely.
EA: f*** that. That will delay the game even further. Just put that bad ending in the game and change it around a bit. They won't notice a thing.
Bioware: But every game should have a happy ending...
EA: Whatever. Just put a post credits scene, saying it was just a story. We'll get Buzz Aldrin to VA for that scene. And if that wasn't enough, tell your fans to buy our DLCs.


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post Mar 11 2012, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Mar 11 2012, 02:22 PM)
rolleyes.gif next we have people raging how EA is 'shallow' and 'money minded'.

Actually why they did it like that makes a lot of sense. One, Shepard is dead. They always said ME3 will be the end of Shepard's trilogy than spanned 5 years since ME1. Now they can make more games without worrying about putting him/her in as a cameo to please 'fans'.

Next, if it's all just a retelling by some granddad who sounds like Martin Sheen to his grandkid, the possibilities for stories is endless. No restrictions. The grandkid can just say 'tell me about the Skyllian Blitz' and BOOM, game.
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Grandchild: Granpa, can you tell me more about the Shepard?
Grandfather: Did you buy any DLC?
Grandchild: No...
Grandfather: Then, no. Go to f***ing bed


I wished Khalisa Jilani replaced Diana Allers instead...


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post Mar 12 2012, 09:48 AM

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My femshep's ending. Please enjoy rclxms.gif
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post Mar 12 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 12 2012, 02:55 PM)
Guys/Gals,

What the heck does the war map readiness ratings have to do with the ending?

Unlike ME1 or 2 where if u didn't do many side quests, during last mission your squadmates will die ... ME3 seems like no difference at all?
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To explain this,

You gain Galactic Readiness (GR) by playing multiplayer. GR is 50% by default
You gain Total Military Strength (TMS) by playing the single player campaign.
Effective Military Strength (EMS) will determine what ending you will get.

EMS = TMS x GR

If you're not into any multiplayer at all, all your TMS will be halved. Example, if you managed to amass 8000 TMS in single player mode, your EMS is only 4000 if you don't play multiplayer mode. However, if you do play multiplayer and you manage to get your GR to 100%, your EMS will be 8000.

How EMS will influence your ending
<4000 Bad ending
>4000 Good ending, however to get the best possible ending, you need to save Anderson
>5000 Best ending possible, without needing to save Anderson

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post Mar 12 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Mar 12 2012, 10:17 PM)
Shoddy writing and plotholes.  tongue.gif

Normandy has a secret plothole device that allows them to escape.

No, seriously, that scene was just wrong. The Joker I know would never abandon Shepard.
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There's actually a secret ending in the game. When the catalyst asks you to make a choice, turn around and walk away. The catalyst will call you back and give you one more choice.

He reveals a time machine which will allow you to go back to either past, alternate present or future.

Past: Go back millions of years to kill the creator of the reapers
Alternate Present: Go to an alternate present and kill the team of writers at Bioware who wrote these crap endings
Future: Go years into the future to kill the stargazer and his grandson

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post Mar 13 2012, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Mar 13 2012, 12:15 AM)
At the ending now. Gonna destroy. Thats what we've been trying to do since ME1, why stop now? Yeah, understand now that the game was great until the kid arrived. Maybe making Shepard collapse and be unable to activate the Crucible would have been depressing, but better in a way.
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The reason why most people got pissed with the last 10 minutes of the game smile.gif

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post Mar 13 2012, 12:51 AM

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Maybe it should've been like this? hmm.gif
I just had catharsis watching that ending.


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post Mar 14 2012, 06:11 PM

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I think you all got indoctrinated by EA biggrin.gif
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post Mar 14 2012, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(SteamieHP @ Mar 14 2012, 06:15 PM)
EA confirm gonna charge for it lah. Knowing EA. Trying hard to be activision.

But. . knowing there's gonna be 'the truth' ending somehow got me relieved eventho it might be false and made up by some mofo. Damn, I really shaken with the game's ending.
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Sometimes I think people are just overanalyzing the endings. A crappy ending is still a crappy ending. doh.gif
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post Mar 14 2012, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(CaidD @ Mar 14 2012, 06:23 PM)
I'm at thessia now,how long should it be until end game?
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You're fairly close now. Somewhere around 80%
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post Mar 14 2012, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Mar 14 2012, 08:16 PM)
What I heard as well. I think he reveals quite a bit of background information on Thessia.

EDIT: I think you guys would like this.

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Eating icecream in the shower, ahaha.... nice touch
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post Mar 14 2012, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Mar 14 2012, 10:06 PM)
Judging from the script, about the same. Notably, Anderson's talk with Shepard is cut short.
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Nooo! ohmy.gif
He's just resting! Anderson is too bad ass to die!

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post Mar 19 2012, 12:33 PM

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My reaction when I did my first playthrough of Mass Effect 3

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post Mar 19 2012, 02:26 PM

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Bioware pre-announcing $9.99 DLC with alternate ending to Mass Effect 3?

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/294158,bi...re-closure.aspx

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