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fishboy
post Mar 31 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Mar 31 2012, 06:53 PM)
guys..i have welcome new mgbb xb to the house..i'll upload the pic later...
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bro whr u buy yr new aro rclxms.gif



and update my mgbb in black tank enjoy any comment are welcome wink.gif

http://s826.photobucket.com/albums/zz183/s...=video00001.mp4

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Mahathir Mohamed
post Mar 31 2012, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(fishboy @ Mar 31 2012, 11:20 PM)
bro whr u buy yr new aro rclxms.gif
 
and update my mgbb in black tank enjoy any comment are welcome wink.gif

http://s826.photobucket.com/albums/zz183/s...=video00001.mp4
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From a breeder recomnended by one of the member in this thread..wkmr..thsbks bro..the xb mgbb is top noych..i'll upload the pic later..


Added on March 31, 2012, 11:33 pmSifu's need advice..im planning to setup a sump tank..but my aqua dun hv hole at the bottom..my friend said can use pipe to suck the water from top using a strong pump..any advice on what to do..

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QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Mar 31 2012, 11:30 PM)
From a breeder recomnended by one of the member in this thread..wkmr..thsbks bro..the xb mgbb is top noych..i'll upload the pic later..


Added on March 31, 2012, 11:33 pmSifu's need advice..im planning to setup a sump tank..but my aqua dun hv hole at the bottom..my friend said can use pipe to suck the water from top using a strong pump..any advice on what to do.. your tank got partition.?
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Mahathir Mohamed
post Apr 1 2012, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(pigpig @ Mar 31 2012, 11:38 PM)

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Ni bro..pure square..4x1.5x1.5..no partition..no hole..simple square aqua..
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QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Apr 1 2012, 12:46 AM)
Ni bro..pure square..4x1.5x1.5..no partition..no hole..simple square aqua.. then is a very high level thing that you are trying to achieve here.. two pumps got to run simultaneously with the exact same output.. 
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:55 PM

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Thats what i thought as well..n after thinking bout it overnight..i think d best solurion is to buy a canister pump..which i did jz nw..3lvel of filtering plus uv..i hv setup d pump..wat impress me is dat its so quiet..but wat scare me n worry me is dat d water look like its barely move..will it clean d water or not..need to check again tmorrow..i hv a question here..i heard to much of bio ring n coral will affect aqua ph lvel..1 lvel i place carbon+white filter..1lvel is bioring +white filter..last lvel is coral +white filter..i hv check the ph lvel n its 6.5..n my aro keep on openibg the mouth n closing..a bit worried though..any advice sifu..


Added on April 2, 2012, 6:35 amAnother casualities..my 2nd aro died..i bought a canister pump to avoid same thing but it died as well..not sure why but hv to do with the new filter..i felt like im at the bottom at the moment..i guess i'll leave the interest for a while n just rare small fish 1st..hv lost few thousand in a short period of time..2nd aro is mucj more dissapointing..3 days n its gone..kinda dissapointed knowing that d 2nd aro colour is nice..

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leggedy
post Apr 2 2012, 08:08 AM

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sorry to hear ur lost bro..

Apparently, i think u really need to know how the water works well before spending on this expensive hobby..

2ndly, you're too impatient in fish keeping..fish keeping requires great patient bro..
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QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Apr 1 2012, 11:55 PM)
Thats what i thought as well..n after thinking bout it overnight..i think d best solurion is to buy a canister pump..which i did jz nw..3lvel of filtering plus uv..i hv setup d pump..wat impress me is dat its so quiet..but wat scare me n worry me is dat d water look like its barely move..will it clean d water or not..need to check again tmorrow..i hv a question here..i heard to much of bio ring n coral will affect aqua ph lvel..1 lvel i place carbon+white  filter..1lvel is bioring +white filter..last lvel is coral +white filter..i hv check the ph lvel n its 6.5..n my aro keep on openibg the mouth n closing..a bit worried though..any advice sifu..


Added on April 2, 2012, 6:35 amAnother casualities..my 2nd aro died..i bought a canister pump to avoid same thing but it died as well..not sure why but hv to do with the new filter..i felt like im at the bottom at the moment..i guess i'll leave the interest for a while n just rare small fish 1st..hv lost few thousand in a short period of time..2nd aro is mucj more dissapointing..3 days n its gone..kinda dissapointed knowing that d 2nd aro colour is nice..
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bro..sorry for yr lost. sad.gif
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post Apr 2 2012, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Apr 2 2012, 08:08 AM)
sorry to hear ur lost bro..

Apparently, i think u really need to know how the water works well before spending on this expensive hobby..

2ndly, you're too impatient in fish keeping..fish keeping requires great patient bro..
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Bro leggedy..i basiccally learn on hw to keep water quality clean n good from research..trial n error but mnage to keep d 1st aro for a month before the carp stuck at the pump incident..gt a new one..first 2 days is ok..gt a canister pump on the 2nd day..set it up until 2am ysterday..fish look ok..ph a bit low..bt looks ok..woke up at 5am n d fish already dead..google to find the reason n i found out that it might be due to new aquarium syndrom..as i change the filter media i actually done d biggest damage by removing all the good bacteria..i hv no clua on wat happen..too bad as the 2nd aro is nice..bit sad actually..that felliw is aggresive..kinda miss him..


Added on April 2, 2012, 8:51 am
QUOTE(hou @ Apr 2 2012, 08:14 AM)
bro..sorry for yr lost.  sad.gif
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No worries bro..will quit yhe hobby for a while until i hv some cash..

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post Apr 2 2012, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Mar 31 2012, 11:30 PM)
From a breeder recomnended by one of the member in this thread..wkmr..thsbks bro..the xb mgbb is top noych..i'll upload the pic later..


Added on March 31, 2012, 11:33 pmSifu's need advice..im planning to setup a sump tank..but my aqua dun hv hole at the bottom..my friend said can use pipe to suck the water from top using a strong pump..any advice on what to do..
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nice to know that... i got another breeder, who just came back yesterday with 24 piece of superb mgbb.... now left only a few piece as most of them have been sold just after arrived brows.gif


Added on April 2, 2012, 9:17 am
QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Apr 1 2012, 11:55 PM)
Thats what i thought as well..n after thinking bout it overnight..i think d best solurion is to buy a canister pump..which i did jz nw..3lvel of filtering plus uv..i hv setup d pump..wat impress me is dat its so quiet..but wat scare me n worry me is dat d water look like its barely move..will it clean d water or not..need to check again tmorrow..i hv a question here..i heard to much of bio ring n coral will affect aqua ph lvel..1 lvel i place carbon+white  filter..1lvel is bioring +white filter..last lvel is coral +white filter..i hv check the ph lvel n its 6.5..n my aro keep on openibg the mouth n closing..a bit worried though..any advice sifu..


Added on April 2, 2012, 6:35 amAnother casualities..my 2nd aro died..i bought a canister pump to avoid same thing but it died as well..not sure why but hv to do with the new filter..i felt like im at the bottom at the moment..i guess i'll leave the interest for a while n just rare small fish 1st..hv lost few thousand in a short period of time..2nd aro is mucj more dissapointing..3 days n its gone..kinda dissapointed knowing that d 2nd aro colour is nice..
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sorry for ur lost again bro...next time pls assure the new pump or canister to work for more that 3-5 days before u introduce a new aro to it... as using new canister is the same like using new tank as no bacteria in the bacteria home


Added on April 2, 2012, 9:48 amHi to all,

For those who is interested to buy a new MGBB please infrom me.....my friend is selling some of his fries.. attached is a picture of the sample aro at size 10 inch n the brooder picture also

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anyone interested pls pm me

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post Apr 2 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Apr 2 2012, 08:50 AM)
Bro leggedy..i basiccally learn on hw to keep water quality clean n good from research..trial n error but mnage to keep d 1st aro for a month before the carp stuck at the pump incident..gt a new one..first 2 days is ok..gt a canister pump on the 2nd day..set it up until 2am ysterday..fish look ok..ph a bit low..bt looks ok..woke up at 5am n d fish already dead..google to find the reason n i found out that it might be due to new aquarium syndrom..as i change the filter media i actually done d biggest damage by removing all the good bacteria..i hv no clua on wat happen..too bad as the 2nd aro is nice..bit sad actually..that felliw is aggresive..kinda miss him..


Added on April 2, 2012, 8:51 am

No worries bro..will quit yhe hobby for a while until i hv some cash..
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bro..based on what u've explain..

1) ure too impatient..though u might know the risk on what ure doing, still ure rushing on things..

2) with the old water still in there while u only introduce a canister filter, that wouldn't even harm your aro a bit..old water, new medias, i see that as no risk towards ur fish..your tank only 1 arowana, even if the ammonia level starts to climb, it wouldnt be this quick to kill ur aro..so if ure saying install new canister kill ur aro is wrong..doesn't make sense..

3) so, old water, new medias, new canister..ur aro died within hours..why?

Simple, there gotta be some grease in the new canister, which have to be wash throughly until all the grease are gone before u started using the canister..

2nd suspect murder, u didnt clean your new medias properly which could possibly has contamination..bad bacterias or impurities..

3rdly, don't tell me that when u introduce ur new canister, u do 100% water change?

Since u didnt provide enough info, these are few mistake that i could point out..


Added on April 2, 2012, 1:51 pm
QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Apr 2 2012, 08:50 AM)
Bro leggedy..i basiccally learn on hw to keep water quality clean n good from research..trial n error but mnage to keep d 1st aro for a month before the carp stuck at the pump incident..gt a new one..first 2 days is ok..gt a canister pump on the 2nd day..set it up until 2am ysterday..fish look ok..ph a bit low..bt looks ok..woke up at 5am n d fish already dead..google to find the reason n i found out that it might be due to new aquarium syndrom..as i change the filter media i actually done d biggest damage by removing all the good bacteria..i hv no clua on wat happen..too bad as the 2nd aro is nice..bit sad actually..that felliw is aggresive..kinda miss him..


Added on April 2, 2012, 8:51 am

No worries bro..will quit yhe hobby for a while until i hv some cash..
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bro..based on what u've explain..

1) ure too impatient..though u might know the risk on what ure doing, still ure rushing on things..

2) with the old water still in there while u only introduce a canister filter, that wouldn't even harm your aro a bit..old water, new medias, i see that as no risk towards ur fish..your tank only 1 arowana, even if the ammonia level starts to climb, it wouldnt be this quick to kill ur aro..so if ure saying install new canister kill ur aro is wrong..doesn't make sense..

3) so, old water, new medias, new canister..ur aro died within hours..why?

Simple, there gotta be some grease in the new canister, which have to be wash throughly until all the grease are gone before u started using the canister..

2nd suspect murder, u didnt clean your new medias properly which could possibly has contamination..bad bacterias or impurities..

3rdly, don't tell me that when u introduce ur new canister, u do 100% water change?

Since u didnt provide enough info, these are few mistake that i could point out..

This post has been edited by leggedy: Apr 2 2012, 01:56 PM
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post Apr 2 2012, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Apr 1 2012, 11:55 PM)
Thats what i thought as well..n after thinking bout it overnight..i think d best solurion is to buy a canister pump..which i did jz nw..3lvel of filtering plus uv..i hv setup d pump..wat impress me is dat its so quiet..but wat scare me n worry me is dat d water look like its barely move..will it clean d water or not..need to check again tmorrow..i hv a question here..i heard to much of bio ring n coral will affect aqua ph lvel..1 lvel i place carbon+white  filter..1lvel is bioring +white filter..last lvel is coral +white filter..i hv check the ph lvel n its 6.5..n my aro keep on openibg the mouth n closing..a bit worried though..any advice sifu..


Added on April 2, 2012, 6:35 amAnother casualities..my 2nd aro died..i bought a canister pump to avoid same thing but it died as well..not sure why but hv to do with the new filter..i felt like im at the bottom at the moment..i guess i'll leave the interest for a while n just rare small fish 1st..hv lost few thousand in a short period of time..2nd aro is mucj more dissapointing..3 days n its gone..kinda dissapointed knowing that d 2nd aro colour is nice..
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OMG bro, aro is a tough fish but still died in just 3 days. U must take some time to do a root cause analysis, and Im really interested to know the cause too to prevent such tragedy.
Is the fish sick before they sell to u?
Work closely with leggedy n find out the reason, then only u'll know where your few thousands has spent on.
Take this as a lesson and the most important thing is, never try something that u've not experienced in by reading only through website, especially google. Get an experienced sifu here, call them up n the best to meet up with them personally to troubleshoot ur problem.
Some of them are quite willing to help by meeting up personally with u if distance is not an issue, eg. leggedy and pigpig.
Good luck in the Arowana keeping interest. Hope U'll have fun with keeping arowana but not having sadness and disappointment.
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All sifu here, i gt a question wana ask. Why the price of arowana drop so much? it saw quite a lot of ads that sell hb for only RM450 now? any sifu here can tell me wht happend to price drop?
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Leggedy today no need sleep d.. lol

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QUOTE(jamzz @ Apr 2 2012, 09:00 PM)
All sifu here, i gt a question wana ask. Why the price of arowana drop so much? it saw quite a lot of ads that sell hb for only RM450 now? any sifu here can tell me wht happend to price drop?
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i have seen many aro that is B grade, that is why cheap. not many LFS having a good grade of aro, seldom they will display in aquarium.

for those good breed, and grade A, it is still selling very expansive or they will just tell u somebody booked it or non for sales. lolz
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QUOTE(leggedy @ Apr 2 2012, 01:51 PM)
bro..based on what u've explain..

1) ure too impatient..though u might know the risk on what ure doing, still ure rushing on things..

2) with the old water still in there while u only introduce a canister filter, that wouldn't even harm your aro a bit..old water, new medias, i see that as no risk towards ur fish..your tank only 1 arowana, even if the ammonia level starts to climb, it wouldnt be this quick to kill ur aro..so if ure saying install new canister kill ur aro is wrong..doesn't make sense..

3) so, old water, new medias, new canister..ur aro died within hours..why?

Simple, there gotta be some grease in the new canister, which have to be wash throughly until all the grease are gone before u started using the canister..

2nd suspect murder, u didnt clean your new medias properly which could possibly has contamination..bad bacterias or impurities..

3rdly, don't tell me that when u introduce ur new canister, u do 100% water change?

Since u didnt provide enough info, these are few mistake that i could point out..


Added on April 2, 2012, 1:51 pm
bro..based on what u've explain..

1) ure too impatient..though u might know the risk on what ure doing, still ure rushing on things..

2) with the old water still in there while u only introduce a canister filter, that wouldn't even harm your aro a bit..old water, new medias, i see that as no risk towards ur fish..your tank only 1 arowana, even if the ammonia level starts to climb, it wouldnt be this quick to kill ur aro..so if ure saying install new canister kill ur aro is wrong..doesn't make sense..

3) so, old water, new medias, new canister..ur aro died within hours..why?

Simple, there gotta be some grease in the new canister, which have to be wash throughly until all the grease are gone before u started using the canister..

2nd suspect murder, u didnt clean your new medias properly which could possibly has contamination..bad bacterias or impurities..

3rdly, don't tell me that when u introduce ur new canister, u do 100% water change?

Since u didnt provide enough info, these are few mistake that i could point out..
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the old water is ok..i guess its combination of bad choice and bad decision..bad choice and bad decision to straight use the canister pump without cleaning it thoroughly..i rinse it not as thorough as im suppose to do..i didnt wash the media as the shop claim already clean it for me..ive done 20% wc not 100% but i guess whatever ive done so far is a great mistake which going to cost me my aro..finish setup the tank at 2 am..slept and woke up at 5am with my aro dead..3 hour is all it takes..i had ask for pigpig advice and follow on what he have advice..i have done a 100% wc..wash canister thoroughly and wash the media..add bacteria booster..put in 2 bandaraya..chlorine tester show negative..ph is normal..i release more fish.(neon tethra,beta fish,guppy,knife fish,tiger barp) to test the water..so far so good..all still alive and kicking..

i've learn my lesson..the hard and expensive way..(can i cry now after acting macho all the way)..

now finding ways to raise my funds..can i create a charity fund here?lol...

anyway thanks for the advice guys..


Added on April 2, 2012, 10:40 pm
QUOTE(jamzz @ Apr 2 2012, 09:00 PM)
All sifu here, i gt a question wana ask. Why the price of arowana drop so much? it saw quite a lot of ads that sell hb for only RM450 now? any sifu here can tell me wht happend to price drop?
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im not a sifu buy i guess its the economy rule..more demand but less supply equals to price hike..more supplies but less demand equals to price fall..maybe too many hb out there?i dunno..sifu's?any further comment?

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QUOTE(kent75 @ Apr 2 2012, 06:06 PM)
OMG bro, aro is a tough fish but still died in just 3 days. U must take some time to do a root cause analysis, and Im really interested to know the cause too to prevent such tragedy.
Is the fish sick before they sell to u?
Work closely with leggedy n find out the reason, then only u'll know where your few thousands has spent on.
Take this as a lesson and the most important thing is, never try something that u've not experienced in by reading only through website, especially google. Get an experienced sifu here, call them up n the best to meet up with them personally to troubleshoot ur problem.
Some of them are quite willing to help by meeting up personally with u if distance is not an issue, eg. leggedy and pigpig.
Good luck in the Arowana keeping interest. Hope U'll have fun with keeping arowana but not having sadness and disappointment.
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kent, tonite i will dream of catching butterfly in wonderland with u okay? biggrin.gif


QUOTE(pigpig @ Apr 2 2012, 09:53 PM)
Leggedy today no need sleep d.. lol

I will sleep with a smile... Wakakaka..

We also learn as we share..
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i would say mr.pigpig is on a few benchmark above me in terms of pro-ness.. thumbup.gif


QUOTE(Travies @ Apr 2 2012, 10:20 PM)
i have seen many aro that is B grade, that is why cheap. not many LFS having a good grade of aro, seldom they will display in aquarium.

for those good breed, and grade A, it is still selling very expansive or they will just tell u somebody booked it or non for sales. lolz
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QUOTE(jamzz @ Apr 2 2012, 09:00 PM)
All sifu here, i gt a question wana ask. Why the price of arowana drop so much? it saw quite a lot of ads that sell hb for only RM450 now? any sifu here can tell me wht happend to price drop?
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over supply.. low demand.. but i notice the demand is slowly on the rise again..
yes, there is lotsa HB at rm450 now.. but a good piece of quality HB will still whoop approx rm650+/- , if u know how to identify then u will agree with me.. tongue.gif


QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Apr 2 2012, 10:38 PM)
the old water is ok..i guess its combination of bad choice and bad decision..bad choice and bad decision to straight use the canister pump without cleaning it thoroughly..i rinse it not as thorough as im suppose to do..i didnt wash the media as the shop claim already clean it for me..ive done 20% wc not 100% but i guess whatever ive done so far is a great mistake which going to cost me my aro..finish setup the tank at 2 am..slept and woke up at 5am with my aro dead..3 hour is all it takes..i had ask for pigpig advice and follow on what he have advice..i have done a 100% wc..wash canister thoroughly and wash the media..add bacteria booster..put in 2 bandaraya..chlorine tester show negative..ph is normal..i release more fish.(neon tethra,beta fish,guppy,knife fish,tiger barp) to test the water..so far so good..all still alive and kicking..

i've learn my lesson..the hard and expensive way..(can i cry now after acting macho all the way)..

now finding ways to raise my funds..can i create a charity fund here?lol...

anyway thanks for the advice guys..


Added on April 2, 2012, 10:40 pm

im not a sifu buy i guess its the economy rule..more demand but less supply equals to price hike..more supplies but less demand equals to price fall..maybe too many hb out there?i dunno..sifu's?any further comment?
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patient bro..ur water still haven't done cycling and yet u already rush to add so many more fishes..

patient patient patient.. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(leggedy @ Apr 2 2012, 10:59 PM)
kent, tonite i will dream of catching butterfly in wonderland with u okay?    biggrin.gif
i would say mr.pigpig is on a few benchmark above me in terms of pro-ness..  thumbup.gif
over supply.. low demand..  but i notice the demand is slowly on the rise again..
yes, there is lotsa HB at rm450 now..  but a good piece of quality HB will still whoop approx rm650+/-  , if u know how to identify then u will agree with me..    tongue.gif
patient bro..ur water still haven't done cycling and yet u already rush to add so many more fishes..

patient patient patient..    rolleyes.gif
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Haha..tester fish bro..im following pigpig advice..ysterday went to see aro ..nice..but i kept the eagerness in me..not buying anything and let my friend bought 1 n me going home empty handed..after all no point of buying a nw one n let it die..as per dis morning..nothing died yet so i guess its ok..i'll leave aqua for d bacteria to bloom..
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QUOTE(Mahathir Mohamed @ Apr 3 2012, 08:08 AM)
Haha..tester fish bro..im following pigpig advice..ysterday went to see aro ..nice..but i kept the eagerness in me..not buying anything and let my friend bought 1 n me going home empty handed..after all no point of buying a nw one n let it die..as per dis morning..nothing died yet so i guess its ok..i'll leave aqua for d bacteria to bloom..
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slowly bro..and i believe nice piece of aro is quite hard to find..i havent seen any nice gold recently..if red, yes i found a few superb pieces..

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