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post Jul 8 2014, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(tribrainz @ Jul 8 2014, 11:16 AM)
hi guys. i still havent got any reply from blomker yet lol. i found this kit, also i3, but using wood instead of alu. can u guys take a look and see?

http://3dprinter.my/abante/3d-printer/repr...usa-i3-full-kit

it says that its SD print ready, which is nice. hope it has monitor too lol
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look fine but lack of info on what board it running, not sure they supplying RAMPS or sangguino still for me the alu prusa look nicer thumbup.gif
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post Jul 10 2014, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(tribrainz @ Jul 8 2014, 11:16 AM)
hi guys. i still havent got any reply from blomker yet lol. i found this kit, also i3, but using wood instead of alu. can u guys take a look and see?

http://3dprinter.my/abante/3d-printer/repr...usa-i3-full-kit

it says that its SD print ready, which is nice. hope it has monitor too lol
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You might want to ask them for more specs to actually do a proper comparison. Also, the type of wood used in the printer frame can make a big difference.

You should ask them for the type of nozzle provided and the controller board used in the printer.
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post Oct 7 2014, 01:48 PM

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Thought you guys might be interested. Pretty decent deal considering the build volume and resolution.

Build volume:200 by 200 by 200 mm
Layer resolution:50 microns
Price:USD$499 (was $399 ) shipping not included.

http://igg.me/at/rapide-lite/x/8698979

This post has been edited by layzieboy: Oct 7 2014, 01:49 PM
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post Oct 7 2014, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(layzieboy @ Oct 7 2014, 01:48 PM)
Thought you guys might be interested. Pretty decent deal considering the build volume and resolution.

Build volume:200 by 200 by 200 mm
Layer resolution:50 microns
Price:USD$499 (was $399 ) shipping not included.

http://igg.me/at/rapide-lite/x/8698979
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Thanks for the recommendation but buying a 3D printer through crowd funding sites are a big risk because these companies don't actually have printers or even parts in stock before their fund raising campaign ends. There has been a lot of kickstarter and indiegogo 3D printer campaigns that have dissapointed supporters over the years such as makibox (the worst, see their general discussion forum), pirate3D (delaying on delivery due to technical reasons) and others you might not have heard.

In case anyone plans to buy a 3D printer, my best advice is not to go for start up in crowd funding sites becasue delivery could take years and the printers would not turn the way they claim, rather search for reputable full fledged companies making 3D printers and have actually manufactured and sold printers such as makerbot, ultimaker, and even printrbot. Another alternative is to build your own reprap 3D printer where the designs have been community tested and improved to many iterations. You can search for reprap at reprap.org.

Regarding the Rapid Lite, I think there is little credibility since they did not demo enough of their prototype and are making false claims just to attract supporters. I wish those supporters good luck and be ready for delivery delays.

My 2 cents. tongue.gif
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Hi guys, I already have a Up! Mini Printer, but I'm ready to go for a RepRap now in order to be customizable to deal with different types of filament.

Is the Pursa Mendel I3 a good design to go for now?

Although I must say I'm slightly intrigued with the Micro Delta design..
http://reprap.org/wiki/Micro_Delta

Any suggestion on where to buy the kits locally?

Thanks!
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post Oct 29 2014, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Oct 29 2014, 11:32 PM)
Hi guys, I already have a Up! Mini Printer, but I'm ready to go for a RepRap now in order to be customizable to deal with different types of filament.

Is the Pursa Mendel I3 a good design to go for now?

Although I must say I'm slightly intrigued with the Micro Delta design..
http://reprap.org/wiki/Micro_Delta

Any suggestion on where to buy the kits locally?

Thanks!
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Hello, good to know there are still active 3D printer owner in Malaysia.

I have recently printed and sold the plastic bits for a Prusa i3 but I have not build one yet on my own. What I like about it is the small number of plastic parts needed to build a functional reprap. I think a Prusa is a good start for first time reprappers since its design to have one single frame supporting the x and z axis. Besides the part count is minimal.

I do know there are some local stores selling 3D printer wares online but they are really pricy when compared to buying from international stores.

So far I have not come across a micro delta kit but a Rostock kit is available at any online stores. About the delta, you should look for modified corners designed for extruded aluminum instead of linear rods, since it was discuss in some forums that the linear rod does wobble quite a fair bit during prints.

BTW, you could just source for the vitamins (nuts and bolts) locally and check your nearest hardware store for threaded rods. You could use your up printer to make the plastuc bits in PLA or get someone to print the parts for you. Since its reprap, you are encouraged to modify, improvise, and jury rig the printer in whatever way for it to function.
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QUOTE(altan @ Oct 29 2014, 11:58 PM)
Hello, good to know there are still active 3D printer owner in Malaysia.

I have recently printed and sold the plastic bits for a Prusa i3 but I have not build one yet on my own. What I like about it is the small number of plastic parts needed to build a functional reprap. I think a Prusa is a good start for first time reprappers since its design to have one single frame supporting the x and z axis. Besides the part count is minimal.

I do know there are some local stores selling 3D printer wares online but they are really pricy when compared to buying from international stores.

So far I have not come across a micro delta kit but a Rostock kit is available at any online stores. About the delta, you should look for modified corners designed for extruded aluminum instead of linear rods, since it was discuss in some forums that the linear rod does wobble quite a fair bit during prints.

BTW, you could just source for the vitamins (nuts and bolts) locally and check your nearest hardware store for threaded rods. You could use your up printer to make the plastuc bits in PLA or get someone to print the parts for you. Since its reprap, you are encouraged to modify, improvise, and jury rig the printer in whatever way for it to function.
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I'm pretty sure there are quite a few enthusiasts in Malaysia.

Basically I was just planning to get the kit from DX
http://www.dx.com/c/electrical-tools-499/3...3d-printers-441

Buying locally is expensive, but buying internationally runs the risk of being taxed right?

Hmm.. locally I saw this site being referred in this thread. any experience with them?
http://3dprinter.my/abante/3d-printer

Yeah.. hacking is one thing I'm planning to do, by the way, what difference does the nozzle size make? determines how fine a print can be?
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post Nov 1 2014, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Oct 30 2014, 12:33 AM)
I'm pretty sure there are quite a few enthusiasts in Malaysia.

Basically I was just planning to get the kit from DX
http://www.dx.com/c/electrical-tools-499/3...3d-printers-441

Buying locally is expensive, but buying internationally runs the risk of being taxed right?

Hmm.. locally I saw this site being referred in this thread. any experience with them?
http://3dprinter.my/abante/3d-printer

Yeah.. hacking is one thing I'm planning to do, by the way, what difference does the nozzle size make? determines how fine a print can be?
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I am sure there are some enthusiast but I find a lot of them seem inactive or just gone dark for some reason. Maybe their presence isn't well know or they just simply got bored or frustrated over their printers.

Yes, buying internationally has the risk of being taxed but it occurred to me many times I buy from experience sellers from China or Hong Kong they would declare the package value far lower than the taxable threshold, say USD 10, and so far I have not been taxed from buying from them. You could also request the seller to declare a value lower than the taxable threshold, which I am having a hard time pin pointing the exact value.

I have not bought from 3dprinter.my before but I don't know whether their claim of selling out 10 units of Prusa-i3 (mentioned at the bottom of their product description) is true since there are no reviews or any customer feedback on their website.

You could try purchasing from them and let us know your thought about them, especially their after sales service which normally fails for a lot of 3D printing sale companies because its been reported by 3D printer enthusiast that countless of times they cannot manage many printers located all over the country.

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post Nov 1 2014, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(altan @ Nov 1 2014, 12:27 AM)
I am sure there are some enthusiast but I find a lot of them seem inactive or just gone dark for some reason. Maybe their presence isn't well know or they just simply got bored or frustrated over their printers.

Yes, buying internationally has the risk of being taxed but it occurred to me many times I buy from experience sellers from China or Hong Kong they would declare the package value far lower than the taxable threshold, say USD 10, and so far I have not been taxed from buying from them. You could also request the seller to declare a value lower than the taxable threshold, which I am having a hard time pin pointing the exact value.

I have not bought from 3dprinter.my before but I don't know whether their claim of selling out 10 units of Prusa-i3 (mentioned at the bottom of their product description) is true since there are no reviews or any customer feedback on their website.

You could try purchasing from them and let us know your thought about them, especially their after sales service which normally fails for a lot of 3D printing sale companies because its been reported by 3D printer enthusiast that countless of times they cannot manage many printers located all over the country.

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Seeing how this is a kit anyway what kind of after sales service are we expecting anyway? Replacement parts in case of failure?
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post Nov 1 2014, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Nov 1 2014, 02:46 AM)
Seeing how this is a kit anyway what kind of after sales service are we expecting anyway? Replacement parts in case of failure?
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Yup, there's the 6 months warranty they stated in their website but I don't know if they provide troubleshooting which I am sure every enthusiast have to experience it someday. I know one makerbot operator who has his printer failed due to extruder jamming and the sales agent could not provide technical service since the technician is based in the states.

Whether its a kit or not, another after sales service is to provide training or documentation in operating the printer which is useful for beginners going into reprap but obviously this step is usially left to the user to hunt for the relevant information online. From my experience, teaching new users on using the printer in a 1 hour session can save them a day's worth of searching and reading solutions online.

I was lucky enough to attend a 3D printing workshop for a reprap printer which I find very useful and at that time I know nothing about 3D printing.
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QUOTE(altan @ Nov 1 2014, 05:46 PM)
Yup, there's the 6 months warranty they stated in their website but I don't know if they provide troubleshooting which I am sure every enthusiast have to experience it someday. I know one makerbot operator who has his printer failed due to extruder jamming and the sales agent could not provide technical service since the technician is based in the states.

Whether its a kit or not, another after sales service is to provide training or documentation in operating the printer which is useful for beginners going into reprap but obviously this step is usially left to the user to hunt for the relevant information online. From my experience, teaching new users on using the printer in a 1 hour session can save them a day's worth of searching and reading solutions online.

I was lucky enough to attend a 3D printing workshop for a reprap printer which I find very useful and at that time I know nothing about 3D printing.
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Hmm.. there's more training than support right? But you're right that some help and guidance is needed for new users. The way I look at it, a non technical user would still not be able to use 3D printing properly, especially if they think it's a matter of pressing print and everything magically works perfectly all the time tongue.gif
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Made contact with the 3Dprinter.my person.

- Controller board is ramps
- 6 months warranty is basically any component failure in 6 months they're replace FOC, just need to pay shipping costs.
- He says he's actually running everything locally. Even all the frame pieces are cut by himself because he has a laser cutter.
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QUOTE(marauderz @ Nov 1 2014, 06:14 PM)
Hmm.. there's more training than support right? But you're right that some help and guidance is needed for new users. The way I look at it, a non technical user would still not be able to use 3D printing properly, especially if they think it's a matter of pressing print and everything magically works perfectly all the time tongue.gif
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It is magical nod.gif when a 3D printer does its job but true enough, the technical factor is still a necessity when it comes to getting successful prints and troubleshooting when the time arise since stuff can randomly go wrong at anytime. New users think that 3D printing has reached a level where pressing buttons is all there is to do to get a statue or a toy coming out of their printers. This is one reason why 3D printing became such a fad in the past few years when Makerbot first introduce desktop grade 3D printers into the market. Apparently their concept was to bring down the technical barrier in 3D printing so everyone at home can just use it as an everyday appliance, say a washing machine or microwave oven.

If you have tried out Makerware, the host software for the Makerbot printers, you will notice how easy and simple to just download models from Thingiverse and just press the start button to initiate the print. I am not against the idea of simplifying 3D printing which a lots of start-ups are doing right now but the fact is that they ignore the technical growth aspect of the 3D printer user, making them less knowledgeable about 3D printing rather turning them into button pushers.

QUOTE(marauderz @ Nov 3 2014, 04:33 PM)
Made contact with the 3Dprinter.my person.

- Controller board is ramps
- 6 months warranty is basically any component failure in 6 months they're replace FOC, just need to pay shipping costs.
- He says he's actually running everything locally. Even all the frame pieces are cut by himself because he has a laser cutter.
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You should try asking them to send you a print sample for one of their printer so you can get a feel of the actual quality.

If its ramps, then the controller board is likely an Arduino Mega 2560.
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QUOTE(altan @ Nov 3 2014, 06:36 PM)
It is magical nod.gif  when a 3D printer does its job but true enough, the technical factor is still a necessity when it comes to getting successful prints and troubleshooting when the time arise since stuff can randomly go wrong at anytime. New users think that 3D printing has reached a level where pressing buttons is all there is to do to get a statue or a toy coming out of their printers. This is one reason why 3D printing became such a fad in the past few years when Makerbot first introduce desktop grade 3D printers into the market. Apparently their concept was to bring down the technical barrier in 3D printing so everyone at home can just use it as an everyday appliance, say a washing machine or microwave oven.

If you have tried out Makerware, the host software for the Makerbot printers, you will notice how easy and simple to just download models from Thingiverse and just press the start button to initiate the print. I am not against the idea of simplifying 3D printing which a lots of start-ups are doing right now but the fact is that they ignore the technical growth aspect of the 3D printer user, making them less knowledgeable about 3D printing rather turning them into button pushers.
You should try asking them to send you a print sample for one of their printer so you can get a feel of the actual quality.

If its ramps, then the controller board is likely an Arduino Mega 2560.
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Don't know about makerware, but my Up Mini software is the same thing, start program, load STL and print.

As for the sample, well, the main reason i'm buying a kit is to get the basics nailed down, if need be i'll most likely just buy the necessary parts to mod on my own.
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QUOTE(marauderz @ Nov 3 2014, 09:52 PM)
Don't know about makerware, but my Up Mini software is the same thing, start program, load STL and print.

As for the sample, well, the main reason i'm buying a kit is to get the basics nailed down, if need be i'll most likely just buy the necessary parts to mod on my own.
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If the basics is what you aim in achieving, then I would recommend getting the kit since it comes with everything needed to build a reprap and you don't have to worry about sourcing which is somewhat time consuming and requires a good knowledge in hunting down parts. I mean you could start with sourcing for parts but you won't learn the basics until the printer is complete and it would be really frustrating to go from shop to shop and still not get the parts to build a working reprap.

Frankly, I did not start off with a kit but I did get my hands on a reprap printer and from the maintenance, repairs, and testing out mods, I can say I did learn a lot before I got a desktop 3D printer and in which I have modded it till it looks completely unrecognizable. So, as long as you got the budget and time to setup one reprap printer, then I think getting a kit would do wonders.

Also, before you can get your hands dirty and waiting for your kit to be delivered, you might want to read up the print troubleshooting guide at raprap.org which isn't an absolute guide to fixing print problems but its tells you what to expect and what is a possible solution.

Another very common mistake made by new 3D printer enthusiasts is buying cheap or low quality filaments. Try to get filaments from reputable sellers and if unsure, pay a little bit more and try their sample filament before making a bigger order.
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QUOTE(altan @ Nov 3 2014, 11:15 PM)
If the basics is what you aim in achieving, then I would recommend getting the kit since it comes with everything needed to build a reprap and you don't have to worry about sourcing which is somewhat time consuming and requires a good knowledge in hunting down parts. I mean you could start with sourcing for parts but you won't learn the basics until the printer is complete and it would be really frustrating to go from shop to shop and still not get the parts to build a working reprap.

Frankly, I did not start off with a kit but I did get my hands on a reprap printer and from the maintenance, repairs, and testing out mods, I can say I did learn a lot before I got a desktop 3D printer and in which I have modded it till it looks completely unrecognizable. So, as long as you got the budget and time to setup one reprap printer, then I think getting a kit would do wonders.

Also, before you can get your hands dirty and waiting for your kit to be delivered, you might want to read up the print troubleshooting guide at raprap.org which isn't an absolute guide to fixing print problems but its tells you what to expect and what is a possible solution.

Another very common mistake made by new 3D printer enthusiasts is buying cheap or low quality filaments. Try to get filaments from reputable sellers and if unsure, pay a little bit more and try their sample filament before making a bigger order.
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Yup, that's why I'm getting the kit. Thanks for the link, mind pointing me to the programs I need as well? I think if I understand it correctly after I get my model STL file, I actually need a slicer program that actually makes the layer instructions for the 3D printer?
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QUOTE(marauderz @ Nov 3 2014, 11:28 PM)
Yup, that's why I'm getting the kit. Thanks for the link, mind pointing me to the programs I need as well? I think if I understand it correctly after I get my model STL file, I actually need a slicer program that actually makes the layer instructions for the 3D printer?
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Yes you got the idea right and an example is your UP printer software which is both the slicer and host software for your UP printer. What I mean is there are two software you will need to download and install in order to 1) slice/translate your .STL files into machine instructions or commonly known as G-code (hence the file name is .gcode) and 2) to have a host establish a connection to your printer and send the G-code instruction to the printer using your G-code file. You can get both the host and slicer integrated together with a software called Repetier-Host, which is used mainly as a host software but it comes integrated with a few slicer such as Cura, Slic3r, or Skeinforge.

Another host software that is easier to use is Pronterface which is based on a command line host called Printrun but spruced up with a graphical user interface. When I first started, I used Pronterface because the interface was minimal and direct to the point while Repetier-Host has quite a lot of tabs and graphical diarrhea making it hard to navigate for first timers.

Now I am using another host called OctoPrint which has a clean interface and I have it installed and remotely operated through Wifi on a Raspberry Pi. Its available for the PC but why leave your main computer on the whole day just for your 3D printer when you can get a low cost and energy saving mini computer to do the job.

Anyway, regarding slicer software, my default and all time favorite would be Cura 14 by Ultimaker because the number of parameters available for fine tuning is just enough to get by with a good print and doesn't take too long to setup and run a slice on the .STL file. If you want to dig deep into every available parameter for slicing, you should use Slic3r. I find it useful when you really want to perform complicated tasks such as printing multiple objects separately on one go and have different fill pattern which provides different internal structural strength to printed objects. The third is skeinforge but I can't say much since I never have gotten to use it yet.

Apparently, these three slicer software are commonly reviewed by users on forums and blogs, and each of them even with same parameters setups will give different results. I guess you might want to tryout each one of them and see which works best for you and your printer.
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QUOTE(altan @ Nov 4 2014, 04:09 PM)
Yes you got the idea right and an example is your UP printer software which is both the slicer and host software for your UP printer. What I mean is there are two software you will need to download and install in order to 1) slice/translate your .STL files into machine instructions or commonly known as G-code (hence the file name is .gcode) and 2) to have a host establish a connection to your printer and send the G-code instruction to the printer using your G-code file. You can get both the host and slicer integrated together with a software called Repetier-Host, which is used mainly as a host software but it comes integrated with a few slicer such as Cura, Slic3r, or Skeinforge.

Another host software that is easier to use is Pronterface which is based on a command line host called Printrun but spruced up with a graphical user interface. When I first started, I used Pronterface because the interface was minimal and direct to the point while Repetier-Host has quite a lot of tabs and graphical diarrhea making it hard to navigate for first timers.

Now I am using another host called OctoPrint which has a clean interface and I have it installed and remotely operated through Wifi on a Raspberry Pi. Its available for the PC but why leave your main computer on the whole day just for your 3D printer when you can get a low cost and energy saving mini computer to do the job.

Anyway, regarding slicer software, my default and all time favorite would be Cura 14 by Ultimaker because the number of parameters available for fine tuning is just enough to get by with a good print and doesn't take too long to setup and run a slice on the .STL file. If you want to dig deep into every available parameter for slicing, you should use Slic3r. I find it useful when you really want to perform complicated tasks such as printing multiple objects separately on one go and have different fill pattern which provides different internal structural strength to printed objects. The third is skeinforge but I can't say much since I never have gotten to use it yet.

Apparently, these three slicer software are commonly reviewed by users on forums and blogs, and each of them even with same parameters setups will give different results. I guess you might want to tryout each one of them and see which works best for you and your printer.
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Thanks for the info man, I'll keep this thread posted. Seems like the guy over at 3DPrinter is a bit slow at responding.
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anyone interested with fully functional mendelmax 1.5 (used), thinking of selling mine as it been under utilized since I got 2x kossel, PM me if interested smile.gif
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I understand that these guys might be just doing this on the side, but to tell me that they're too busy to get back to me after a few days doesn't really give me much confidence tongue.gif
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