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post Mar 16 2016, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Mar 16 2016, 03:43 AM)
That works too, asking for other file format or just ask for the .stl file directly. Sketchup can export to .stl format after downloading and installing the .stl exporter from their extension warehouse. I wonder why don't they just implement the exporter in Sketchup  doh.gif

Finally my next printer is working and giving good result. I have to hack it quite a bit to get it working.

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Congrate rclxms.gif thumbup.gif thumbsup.gif

show us the whole printer please

im still waiting for my other parts coming before i can start building
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post Mar 16 2016, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 16 2016, 04:02 PM)
Congrate  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbsup.gif 

show us the whole printer please

im still waiting for my other parts coming before i can start building
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Going to post the rest of the pictures in Facebook around later in the afternoon. Still editing the pictures to look nice. whistling.gif

Short description, its a clone version of a Makerbot replicator but I am not too happy with the laser cut wooden frames they sent me in the kit. sad.gif

I like the wood feel but the frames are badly warped on important pieces.

Whats your next 3D printer if you don't mind me asking brows.gif


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post Mar 16 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Mar 16 2016, 04:17 PM)
Going to post the rest of the pictures in Facebook around later in the afternoon. Still editing the pictures to look nice.  whistling.gif

Short description, its a clone version of a Makerbot replicator but I am not too happy with the laser cut wooden frames they sent me in the kit.  sad.gif

I like the wood feel but the frames are badly warped on important pieces.

Whats your next 3D printer if you don't mind me asking  brows.gif
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Isnt that the problem with wooden frame? Warpage due to moisture. Especially laser cut wood since they're thin. Is acrylic expensive to laser cut?
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post Mar 16 2016, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Mar 16 2016, 04:17 PM)
Going to post the rest of the pictures in Facebook around later in the afternoon. Still editing the pictures to look nice.  whistling.gif

Short description, its a clone version of a Makerbot replicator but I am not too happy with the laser cut wooden frames they sent me in the kit.  sad.gif

I like the wood feel but the frames are badly warped on important pieces.

Whats your next 3D printer if you don't mind me asking  brows.gif
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i didnt have a fb account tongue.gif can i still viewing it?

i build corexy like this



but a little bit modified on z axis.

at first i also think go for wood frame for cost, but i think wood will do something funny overtime so i decide to go with aluminum frame.
And i'll use acrylic to cover all side after complete the build, my plan is to build the printer slowly because i have so many time to spend to build this printer and watching anime sweat.gif

After that i find someone here in kuching who interest in my i3

This post has been edited by Prosperer: Mar 16 2016, 04:50 PM
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post Mar 17 2016, 02:34 AM

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Now onto the Z axis

anyone knows where to find lead screw?


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post Mar 17 2016, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 16 2016, 04:49 PM)
i didnt have a fb account  tongue.gif  can i still viewing it?

i build corexy like this



but a little bit modified on z axis.

at first i also think go for wood frame for cost, but i think wood will do something funny overtime so i decide to go with aluminum frame.
And i'll use acrylic to cover all side after complete the build, my plan is to build the printer slowly because i have so many time to spend to build this printer and watching anime sweat.gif

After that i find someone here in kuching who interest in my i3
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Ya don't use wood. Even the aluminium extrusion don't use printed plastic L bracket to join them.
I've seen some people do that. It's pointless having a stiff aluminium profile being joint by some weak plastic.


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post Mar 17 2016, 10:40 AM

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Now onto the Z axis

anyone knows where to find lead screw?
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Where do you get the rail?
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post Mar 17 2016, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 17 2016, 10:40 AM)
Where do you get the rail?
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Aliexpress, just search for MGN9C. Tonnes of hiwin clones out there. Priced reasonably at 16-20USD per rail .

I would probably go for MGN15 now if I can because of the extra width, I realised because the rail is only 9mm width it is able to fall sideways into the nut opening of the aluminium extrusion. Had to put a washer below it to prevent it from going into the aluminium extrusion gap.

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post Mar 17 2016, 12:02 PM

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awesome, and where do you get the L bracket, i still browsing for the bracket not yet buy anything to connect my frame smile.gif
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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 17 2016, 12:02 PM)
awesome, and where do you get the L bracket, i still browsing for the bracket not yet buy anything to connect my frame smile.gif
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I bought mine from aliexpress.

However if you want cheap L bracket you can go to Mr DIY and get it really cheap like 5-6 ringgit or something like that for 10.
Problem is some of them are not exactly 90 degree so you probably won't be able to use some of them , maybe 3-4 pcs out of 10.
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QUOTE(altan @ Mar 16 2016, 04:17 PM)
Going to post the rest of the pictures in Facebook around later in the afternoon. Still editing the pictures to look nice.  whistling.gif

Short description, its a clone version of a Makerbot replicator but I am not too happy with the laser cut wooden frames they sent me in the kit.  sad.gif

I like the wood feel but the frames are badly warped on important pieces.

Whats your next 3D printer if you don't mind me asking  brows.gif
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Noticed from your facebook that you printed using ninjaflex.

Do you think that it would make good motor dampers such as this ?

http://www.ultibots.com/nema-17-damper-astrosyn-my17rmdamp/

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1380368
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post Mar 17 2016, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Mar 17 2016, 01:06 PM)
I bought mine from aliexpress.

However if you want cheap L bracket you can go to Mr DIY and get it really cheap like 5-6 ringgit or something like that for 10.
Problem is some of them are not exactly 90 degree so you probably won't be able to use some of them , maybe 3-4 pcs out of 10.
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Got link? i seems can't find the bracket that fit into the aluminum slot on aliexpress
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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 17 2016, 01:15 PM)
Got link? i seems can't find the bracket that fit into the aluminum slot on aliexpress
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/50pcs-lot-D...2380750334.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/50PCS-L-Sha...2385164004.html


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post Mar 17 2016, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(izzudinhafiz @ Mar 16 2016, 04:37 PM)
Isnt that the problem with wooden frame? Warpage due to moisture. Especially laser cut wood since they're thin. Is acrylic expensive to laser cut?
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Yea, I do expect warping but not to a severe extend. I guess I wasn't lucky enough to get a nice piece. I have seen a wooden flash forge printer and those guys who maintain it was able to print in PC and the frames were not warped.

I am thinking of getting the melamine version which is actually particle board used in making low cost shelves. They claim it has no warpage but I think the strength is questionable. hmm.gif


QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 16 2016, 04:49 PM)
i didnt have a fb account  tongue.gif  can i still viewing it?

i build corexy like this



but a little bit modified on z axis.

at first i also think go for wood frame for cost, but i think wood will do something funny overtime so i decide to go with aluminum frame.
And i'll use acrylic to cover all side after complete the build, my plan is to build the printer slowly because i have so many time to spend to build this printer and watching anime sweat.gif

After that i find someone here in kuching who interest in my i3
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I just check and yes anyone can view my Facebook, just click on the link in my signature below.


QUOTE(Drian @ Mar 17 2016, 09:56 AM)
Ya don't use wood. Even the aluminium extrusion don't use printed plastic L bracket to join them.
I've seen some people do that. It's pointless having a stiff aluminium profile being joint by some weak plastic.
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I would have gone for the aluminium extrusion/sheet or steel sheet if it was available but for a 450 dollars including shipping and tax, I just can't pass off this deal. tongue.gif

3D printed plastics isn't weak, rather its just flexible compared to metal which makes them not ideal frame/ joints. Acrylic flexes too, that's why I would avoid them for frames if possible. I have printed some U bars with PLA at 80% fill and 8 mm thickness, and these thing doesn't flex much but does twist radially by a lot. I think there must be a design that minimize the twisting effect. They are hard to break because the layers are on the longest length.

QUOTE(Drian @ Mar 17 2016, 01:14 PM)
Noticed from your facebook that you printed using ninjaflex.

Do you think that it would make good motor dampers such as this ?

http://www.ultibots.com/nema-17-damper-astrosyn-my17rmdamp/

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1380368
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Yes I printed flexible fan mounts using FlexPLA and it keeps fan running smooth and quiet. I wouldn't use them on stepper motor since the footing would be loose. I wouldn't recommend Ninjaflex becasue it is very soft and stretchy, it's great for making flexible robot joints or grippy surfaces. FlexPLA is also flexible but much stiffer like rubberized phone cases. I would use that for generally anything and is slightly cheaper and more available than Ninjaflex.

On a side note, the printer I just built is producing wonderful results. I will post some pictures here once I get my spool holder done.
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post Mar 18 2016, 06:45 PM

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anybody here already make MPCNC?
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post Mar 18 2016, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 18 2016, 06:45 PM)
anybody here already make MPCNC?
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Nope, you can try but you have to either source for 25mm linear rods or 25 mm aluminum tubes or conduits. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 18 2016, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Mar 18 2016, 07:20 PM)
Nope, you can try but you have to either source for 25mm linear rods or 25 mm aluminum tubes or conduits.  biggrin.gif
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I think my other project after finished my second printer will be mpcnc, how your new printer? got ask replacement from folgertech for the wraped parts
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post Mar 18 2016, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 18 2016, 07:58 PM)
I think my other project after finished my second printer will be mpcnc, how your new printer? got ask replacement from folgertech for the wraped parts
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Nope, didn't ask for the replacement parts but rather I gave them an honest feedback (no ranting, just pointing out stuff) and they gave me a $30 gift voucher. Can buy more stuff from them later. Considering getting another Cloner in Melamine and maybe an aluminum Kossel.

You can judge the print quality for yourself based on the attached pictures. I think its worth buying for the parts than the full printer itself.

I find the MK8 makerbot nozzle they provide is very good for bridging. The PLA doesn't sag at places unlike the J-Head nozzles.

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post Mar 18 2016, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Mar 18 2016, 09:44 PM)
Nope, didn't ask for the replacement parts but rather I gave them an honest feedback (no ranting, just pointing out stuff) and they gave me a $30 gift voucher. Can buy more stuff from them later. Considering getting another Cloner in Melamine and maybe an aluminum Kossel.

You can judge the print quality for yourself based on the attached pictures. I think its worth buying for the parts than the full printer itself.

I find the MK8 makerbot nozzle they provide is very good for bridging. The PLA doesn't sag at places unlike the J-Head nozzles.

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Is the line show with the blue arrow normal cause my printer also sometimes got lines like that, and do you know what it called? and can we fix it?

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post Mar 18 2016, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 18 2016, 10:11 PM)
Is the line show with the blue arrow normal cause my printer also sometimes got lines like that, and do you know what it called? and can we fix it?

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I don't know what that is called tongue.gif

What I understand is that there is a slight under extrusion at certain layers, so they look like there are some minor voids making the layers discolored.

It is probably caused by the retraction parameters if turned on. I notice if the retraction distance or speed is set too high, it will pull in too much air into the melt chamber and mix with the melted plastic. Then when it extrudes, the air bubbles will cause voids in the layers. If the voids are seen on prints without any gap crossing, then its due to the moisture absorbed into the filament (happens for both PLA and ABS). You have to optimize the retraction setting by printing two cubes spaced apart so there is little stringing but doesn't pull too much air into the melt chamber.

Whether its normal or not, if it is little or not noticeable, then its fine but if there are a tons of voids, then that is not normal.

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