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 Nokia N9 - V03 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Mar 7 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 7 2012, 01:44 PM)
We really need an app for that. Using a website designed for desktop browsers is a pain.
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Unfortunately, hoping for an app for GSC is pointless for our beloved N9.
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post Mar 7 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 7 2012, 01:48 PM)
Unfortunately, hoping for an app for GSC is pointless for our beloved N9.
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I don't blame them. I only blame Elop for declaring N9 DoA. The same reason why we don't have Whatsapp, Shazam or MS Office editor.
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 7 2012, 01:56 PM)
I don't blame them. I only blame Elop for declaring N9 DoA. The same reason why we don't have Whatsapp, Shazam or MS Office editor.
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Totally agreed. Just pray that GSC will create a mobile version website to cater other mobile devices eg: Symbian, Windows Phone, Blackberry and MeeGo.
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post Mar 7 2012, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 7 2012, 01:56 PM)
I don't blame them. I only blame Elop for declaring N9 DoA. The same reason why we don't have Whatsapp, Shazam or MS Office editor.
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QUOTE(drexar @ Mar 7 2012, 02:03 PM)
Totally agreed. Just pray that GSC will create a mobile version website to cater other mobile devices eg: Symbian, Windows Phone, Blackberry and MeeGo.
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I doubt even if Mr Elop didn't do that we'll ever get one also. Symbian & BB so big GSC also dun care. Yeah hope they make a usable mobile version better.

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post Mar 7 2012, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 7 2012, 11:13 AM)
ya, if u used the function ur phone will restore to original zero data mode.

so back up everything specially contact before u try that function
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I have done soft and hard reset.
Problem still there.
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post Mar 7 2012, 02:54 PM

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Yup Andy, as a long time Nokia user, I'm pissed they will discontinue Symbian in 2016. Or rather,pissed that the sucessor dont have : Sd Card slot, usb mass storage function, bluetooth. Non user replacable battery can live with, micro sim card still can tolerate but take out the free ways to transfer data is no no.
And with flash available on n9,super glad took the plunge with the DOA OS,Microsoft and Elop cant take the consumers as fools
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post Mar 7 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 7 2012, 02:54 PM)
Yup Andy, as a long time Nokia user, I'm pissed they will discontinue Symbian in 2016. Or rather,pissed that the sucessor dont have : Sd Card slot, usb mass storage function, bluetooth. Non user replacable battery can live with, micro sim card still can tolerate but take out the free ways to transfer data is no no.
And with flash available on n9,super glad took the plunge with the DOA OS,Microsoft and Elop cant take the consumers as fools
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are nokia heading it's way to bcome like apple ipun or something? vmad.gif


Added on March 7, 2012, 3:03 pm
QUOTE(kitter @ Mar 7 2012, 02:24 PM)
I have done soft and hard reset.
Problem still there.
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sad it happen to u like that...
dunno how to help since me not having such a problem.
why not u bring ur phone to nearest NCC let them check wht really happen...


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post Mar 7 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 7 2012, 09:28 AM)
1. Take a photo with colleague, colleague says: send the photo to my phone.
HABIS --> GONE --> can't send over bluetooth
OK, connect to PC --> HABIS --> GONE --> Must install ZUNE first and ZUNE requires Windows XP SP3 or newer Windows version.
Want to install Zune? Make sure got internet connection "lah"
So... what if she's outside having dinner with relatives, use her phone take photo? Later cannot send to anyone. How stupid is that?
I can't believe this is what Microsoft did. I mean,... meh? Microsoft? That's so NOT Microsoft.
You are talking about N9 or Lumia 800? Can't you just send the photo as an email attachment directly out from the phone? Or can't you just use phone Bluetooth to connect to PC and transfer the photo?

Sorry for asking because coming from Symbian, this is rather unbelievable.

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post Mar 7 2012, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(kitter @ Mar 7 2012, 02:24 PM)
I have done soft and hard reset.
Problem still there.
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It's strange why some of you have this repeating and missing sms problem but others don't. If a hard reset which removes all third party apps doesn't solve it it cannot be due to apps conflict. Please share who is your network operator, maybe there is a common operator responsible. Try a sim with another operator and see if the problem recurs. (Not so easy with micro-sim I know, the disadvantage of micro-sim).


Added on March 7, 2012, 3:10 pm
QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Mar 7 2012, 03:04 PM)
You are  talking about N9 or Lumia 800? Can't you just send the photo as an email attachment directly out from the phone? Or can't you just use phone Bluetooth to connect to PC and transfer the photo?

Sorry for asking because coming from Symbian, this is rather unbelievable.
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Andy was talking about WP7 limitations. Yes, you can send a photo as an email attachment but it is cumbersome as both sender and receiver need data connection. Bluetooth and wifi file transfer are not allowed in WP7 because they bypass Zune. This is copying the bad points of iphone for nothing. At least iphone you can jailbreak to get over restictions but in WP7 you are stuck.

If you are coming from Symbian going to WP7 will be like moving from the freedom of your house to an army camp. Another example, you can use any MP3 file as a ringtone in Symbian but you have to buy extra ringtones from Microsoft.

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post Mar 7 2012, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 7 2012, 03:05 PM)
It's strange why some of you have this repeating and missing sms problem but others don't. If a hard reset which removes all third party apps doesn't solve it it cannot be due to apps conflict. Please share who is your network operator, maybe there is a common operator responsible. Try a sim with another operator and see if the problem recurs. (Not so easy with micro-sim I know, the disadvantage of micro-sim).


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Andy was talking about WP7 limitations. Yes, you can send a photo as an email attachment but it is cumbersome as both sender and receiver need data connection. Bluetooth and wifi file transfer are not allowed in WP7 because they bypass Zune. This is copying the bad points of iphone for nothing. At least iphone you can jailbreak to get over restictions but in WP7 you are stuck.

If you are coming from Symbian going to WP7 will be like moving from the freedom of your house to an army camp. Another example, you can use any MP3 file as a ringtone in Symbian but you have to buy extra ringtones from Microsoft.
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windows phone boleh...haizzz doh.gif
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QUOTE(k@|i0s @ Mar 7 2012, 03:19 PM)
windows phone boleh...haizzz doh.gif
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u never know when u try it. Belum cuba belum tahu. hahaha. Now Nokia treat us like a fool.
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QUOTE(k@|i0s @ Mar 7 2012, 03:00 PM)
are nokia heading it's way to bcome like apple ipun or something? vmad.gif
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Not Nokia, more like Microsoft.

Windows Phone is like copying everything blindly from iPhone.

Since iPhone is successful, mainly for it's simplicity, smoothness, reliability and apps/games (also branding).
So, MS revamp their smartphone OS, applying simplicity, smoothness and reliability. App/Games need time and not fully control by them.
BUT, instead of taking the good and dropping the bad, they COPY FROM iPHONE EVERYTHING, including the bads, that is to sit in a jail, restrictions and limitations.
iPhone have iTunes, they must have Zune, even the name also must be in tune.
iPhone have Apple name (brand), they must use Mango, lucky the next one is Tango.
iPhone no microSD support, they also no microSD, but heard Tango may have?
iPhone got iCloud, they also come with SkyDrive.
iPhone don't like sharing files via bluetooth, they also must follow suit.
iPhone don't like letting PC access their internal storage memory, they also must follow suit.
Many more to list... basically, most of iPhone bads, they also "kiasu", wanna have.

The Apple is rotten, but can jailbreak and revive it become a silver Apple.
The Mango is a sour Mango although a little sweet (thanks to People Hub).
Just can hope the Tango can really Tango.

QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Mar 7 2012, 03:04 PM)
You are  talking about N9 or Lumia 800? Can't you just send the photo as an email attachment directly out from the phone? Or can't you just use phone Bluetooth to connect to PC and transfer the photo?

Sorry for asking because coming from Symbian, this is rather unbelievable.
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All Windows Phone.

Sending photo as email is still stupid lo. Any smartphone can do that. If you go and have reunion dinner with your relative, after taking a nice photo, they want you to send to them... would you say, "can I send to your email?" When they want the file send through bluetooth and they may not have data or even email.

No mass-storage, or bluetooth transfer to PC; Must use Zune.

YES, extremely unbelievable, it's sound so stupid, a smartphone that is actually stupid and unreasonable. I can't believe Microsoft implement this.
And do you know that Windows Mobile only allow 1 MOBILE NUMBER per contact? Another very stupid implementation.
From what I see, it seems their DESIGN of their database is not design properly, you can see like "Office 1", etc. If you learn about database design and based on what I can see, it seems the database did not "normalize" this part or make it flexible for flexible number of contacts. It is so weird especially coming from Microsoft, a software giant and a company which provides database management software as well as they themselves provides tutorial for normalizing a proper contact book to support flexible contacts. It really feels like this part was design and done by some fresh graduate (or could it be FoxConn? Shouldn't be I think), but it's really really unbelievable plus, before Windows Phone, they have vast experience in Windows Mobile and before that, Pocket PC OS.


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For video downloaders like me,even more so. If my friends see I have this and that videos series and want a copy...with symbian or n9, easy. Take out the cable, plug in,copy. If to another hp with usb on the go,add another short cable, done. As for y carry cable around,its to charge the phone with netbook, a bit leceh but no need data rates, still better

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Another thing I heard about WP7, when it goes to lockscreen it drops wifi connection so any background data update must use 3G. Is this true?
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Meanwhile, sifus, what does the Inception prog actually do? Bypass aegis? Looks like a lot of IT language which I dont get
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 7 2012, 04:41 PM)
Another thing I heard about WP7, when it goes to lockscreen it drops wifi connection so any background data update must use 3G. Is this true?
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Not sure, someone just mentioned this bug to me as well.

The Lumia 800 currently have battery issue, if ON data, it will drain very fast even no activity. I can feel the phone a bit warm in sleep mode.
When no data, on WIFI, there is no battery drain issue then someone told me about the Wi-Fi bug, I'm not sure as I THINK I still can receive email, need to re-confirm this. But there's an update for Lumia 800, so it may have solve this bug? Not sure, but it should solve the battery drain issue.

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 7 2012, 04:25 PM)
For video downloaders like me,even more so. If my friends see I have this and that videos series and want a copy...with symbian or n9, easy. Take out the cable, plug in,copy. If to another hp with usb on the go,add another short cable, done. As for y carry cable around,its to charge the phone with netbook, a bit leceh but no need data rates, still better
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my sister and i enjoy NFC a lot LOL


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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 7 2012, 05:02 PM)
Meanwhile, sifus, what does the Inception prog actually do? Bypass aegis? Looks like a lot of IT language which I dont get
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well, if you don't understand what it does, it is safe to not mingle with it at the moment, it's more like a hack for developers at the moment as there's no much application using it right now.

in short, it restores the OS to something a *nix user is more familiar with by disabling (some of?) the aegis crap tongue.gif Just ask @ #inception on freenode if you need more info. (should be very much similar to jailbreak/rooting afaik)

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So to recap. With N9,
1. you can have use Window Explorer to select file/copy/cut/paste to your pc?
2. You can use Bluetooth to send files to other bluetooth?
3. Does N9 has Swype?

But you can't do the above with Lumia 800.


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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Mar 7 2012, 06:05 PM)
So to recap. With N9,
1. you can have use Window Explorer to select file/copy/cut/paste to your pc?
2. You can use Bluetooth to send files to other bluetooth?
3. Does N9 has Swype?

But you can't do the above with Lumia 800.
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All yes.
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QUOTE(Upsilon @ Mar 7 2012, 05:20 PM)
my sister and i enjoy NFC a lot LOL

Lol, I havent found anyone who also uses NFC enabled phone in my circle. Only the latest models have NFC right?(any brand). NFC also cannot use to copy to laptop or PC, not yet. Good to be equipped, customers want info, ok, plug in, copy, efficient, hahaha

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