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 Full P3-21A Specs and Info!

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post Feb 21 2012, 10:10 PM

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1.6 campro CPS T already can get that figure bro.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:04 PM

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1.8 turbo will be equal to 2.2 or 2.4?

if proton want good sales and better market share, the premium variant shld be priced not more than 70k.

this car have better features and spec, no need tv ad or expensive press ads,
hence budget can be use in QC and better features and quality.
i'm sure many of us will buy and recommend by word of mouth

they need to put more info on the website include detail promotion.
saving printing cost and manpower.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 21 2012, 10:04 PM)
bro its a joke ya, not so serious, i know y engine 1.8L no problem with that, but imagine a 2.2L 210 BHP 300 NM torque wont it be nice fitted into a nissan fuga? power what
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just take nissan fuga engine bulat bulat from original nissan fuga.

just like what they do to campro 2.0.

forget about R&D and reinvent the wheel.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:04 PM)
1.8 turbo will be equal to 2.2 or 2.4?

if proton want good sales and better market share, the premium variant shld be priced not more than 70k.

this car have better features and spec, no need tv ad or expensive press ads,
hence budget can be use in QC and better features and quality.
i'm sure many of us will buy and recommend by word of mouth

they need to put more info on the website include detail promotion.
saving printing cost and manpower.
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Ads is still important ma. You think all those wimmiz and people that don't have much knowledge about car will try to korek info by him/herself?
Brand still play a major factor in Malaysia. Even with tahi spec, people still buy if brand name is gooding. Proton need to fight with this situation. Smart ads can help Proton to influence and attract more potential buyer.

This post has been edited by -cmi-: Feb 21 2012, 11:14 PM
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Feb 21 2012, 11:10 PM)
Ads is still important ma. You think all those wimmiz and people that don't have much knowledge about car will try to korek info by him/herself?
Brand still play a major factor in Malaysia. Even with tahi spec, people still buy if brand name is gooding. Proton need to fight with this situation. Smart ads can help Proton to influence and attract more potential buyer.
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if they plan to use

Drive it to believe it,

i'm sure they will fail.

man, they suck. ( from design to slogan)

Try this

Drive to believe.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 21 2012, 07:42 PM)
ppl buy conti car because it has power, its fun to drive..it has great handling
proton is trying to copy that
but the thing is conti cars aren't very reliable because of its POWAH
thats why when proton turbocharged the engine, they kinda limit the power to ensure durability and reliability of the engine
handling is great as it got lotus handling
T&H in other hand...they're playing it too safe in the local market
they have competing car..but those car are only for japanese market and US
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Don't forget Europe. Occasionally they have interesting and competitive cars there, such as the Nissan Qashqai (whoever thought of that name should be shot though, it took me months to remember how to write it).

A premium Proton makes little sense at the moment. The R&D costs are too big for that, even VW swallowed more than they should have when they developed and introduced the Phaeton... the only place that one did well was China. But yeah, the question is why would Proton want to do that?

Only way would be badge engineering/licensed copies.

However a sports car from Proton makes more sense. Just put a new dress onto the Elise and call it a day. It might not sell terribly well, but it could be good for the image, and it won't be that expensive to develop.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:20 PM

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usually people visit showroom to see and feel the new car when they heard about new proton via tv/press news.

strategy is, if proton not enuf budget, they shld save on ads, and spend more on production, a good quality car produced, and people will start talking.

if u spend so much on ads, but still a lousy car, people will think twice.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Feb 21 2012, 08:01 PM)
proton current largest engine is the 1.6L campro turbo using in the exora bold iinm?

imagine it is put into toyota camry, how under power it will be tongue.gif
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The CFE is Proton's most powerful engine yet, but the largest engine is actually still the Campro CPS at 1597cc

The CFE is slightly smaller at 1561cc.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 11:16 PM)
if they plan to use

Drive it to believe it,

i'm sure they will fail.

man, they suck. ( from design to slogan)

Try this

Drive to believe.
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what to do, if the same people still in the same team, forever will have impractical design and not so catchy slogan

sad on the tail light, wat the heck they were thinking of design such tail light
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:23 PM)
sad on the tail light, wat the heck they were thinking of design such tail light
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Must. Save. Money.

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I guess the Tuah rear was too expensive.

I agree, ads are important, however they just need to be good enough to get some to buy it, the rest needs to be QC. Word of mouth will then spread, someone in the extended family will have one, you'll get to sit in one, etc. That way I made an Uncle consider buying a Kangoo too... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:23 PM)
what to do, if the same people still in the same team, forever will have impractical design and not so catchy slogan

sad on the tail light, wat the heck they were thinking of design such tail light
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another car which designers has spend almost all their effort on the front and suddenly they become dumbfark when it comes to designing the rear.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:32 PM

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a good strategy, always produce good quality products, people will appreciate it.

lousy product even tho is dirt cheap, people will always think twice.

word of mouth is very very important. proton need to rebuild their reputation and quality, otherwise, people may just say "wtf lousy car, just buy myvi lar" or "this price and yet lousy quality, i better top up buy xyz"


Added on February 21, 2012, 11:34 pm
QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Feb 21 2012, 11:28 PM)
another car which designers has spend almost all their effort on the front and suddenly they become dumbfark when it comes to designing the rear.
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sigh, tuah tail light shld be use, some savings cannot be save, u must invest to get better returns, some more proton want to market this as international standard car.

they need better mgmt.

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post Feb 22 2012, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:32 PM)
sigh, tuah tail light shld be use, some savings cannot be save, u must invest to get better returns, some more proton want to market this as international standard car.

they need better mgmt.
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if add up become 100k u will still buy?
plus...tuah's tail light doesn't make sense
most "reality" taillight u see is on the side(left and right)
tuah's tail light is at the middle(the boot there)
in reality, most u see is tail light is at the side...at abit at the boot there is the reflector
tuah's tail light is from the left across to the right...like a bridge
and its black all over..where's the signal..lol
how much to replace it?...how difficult is it to replace it?
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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 21 2012, 09:57 PM)
sure they will make a high end car jazz, it is a resemblance of a nissan fuga, you can wait and see if it will be launch soon cause now they working hard on this model, after this one launch they will work on perdana replacemnet, maybe a 2.2L campro CFE engine, 210 BHP 300NM of torgue, getrag double clutch GB , hehe,,,  rclxms.gif


Added on February 21, 2012, 9:59 pm

na, inspira was more like a transition, just a quick boost for sale before the p3-21A comes out.
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Ern....i tot perdana replacement was inspira 2.0?

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post Feb 22 2012, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Feb 22 2012, 06:58 AM)
Ern....i tot perdana replacement was inspira 2.0?
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nope. thats why you dont see minister travelling around in inspira.

you only see police driving inspira, so, inspira is more like waja. but i have no idea why price from saga/wira/waja, and now inspira the price gone up so much biggrin.gif

hey, ever wonder why police never drives a persona/gen 2?

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 11:06 PM)
just take nissan fuga engine bulat bulat from original nissan fuga.

just like what they do to campro 2.0.

forget about R&D and reinvent the wheel.
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Sorry when proton have thier own 2.0 engine?

There is just a engine cover from proton + logo & name this as compro only..

If they have 2.0 why Exora still needed instead the 1.6 compro engine to become added turbocharged?

All the recent 1.8 or 2.0 from inspira is original made from mitsubishi engine..

They is no such thing can develop the 1.8 or 2.0cc all is took from others cars company's..

How come no ppls can believed the inspira engine is original from lancer, when I have time must be left up the whole inspira engine and show you all the engine code and mitsubishi MIVEC engine lah,

If proton do like perodua kancil or Kenari in the engine can find out the daihatsu logo, will be make the proton shy at all lah, so big company can't develop thier own engine an still wanna using 3rd party engine... lol

Ha ha..

http://www.squidoo.com/proton-inspira-vs-mitsubishi-lancer
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post Feb 22 2012, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Feb 14 2012, 11:51 PM)
wait for this fella to do his magic

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looking forward 4 the king to put his golden hand...
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post Feb 22 2012, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 11:16 PM)
if they plan to use

Drive it to believe it,

i'm sure they will fail.

man, they suck. ( from design to slogan)

Try this

Drive to believe.
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How about Proton Neelofa?

They can make slogan like 'Drive it, orgasm all the way'
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post Feb 22 2012, 07:25 AM

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hope they bring in mivec with 6 speed mt..
hows that drool.gif
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QUOTE(chronous @ Feb 22 2012, 07:24 AM)
How about Proton Neelofa?

They can make slogan like 'Drive it, orgasm all the way'
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er.....doesnt sound like selling a car......sounds like selling a toy..the adult kind...lol laugh.gif

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