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post Feb 16 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Feb 16 2012, 12:41 AM)
very tempting specs. but engine a bit let down based only on perception. if mitsu engine, i think sure is a winner. but kill own inspira's sales. LOL!
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lmao. That's lame if you expect MIVEC engine on Proton car all the time.
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post Feb 21 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Jazz6218 @ Feb 21 2012, 08:06 PM)
not tis car... tis car oni worth 75-80k for me  laugh.gif and those non turbocharged p321a shuldnt even come out...
but still if u giv me a vios or tis car for free,i will take tis car tongue.gif
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If Proton want produce more expensive car, they need to fix their reputation 1st.
Rebuild their reputation, gain trust from customer and after that, they can start thinking about producing expensive car.
If Proton build RM150k car in mass quantity, with their current reputation, it just suicide.
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post Feb 21 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:04 PM)
1.8 turbo will be equal to 2.2 or 2.4?

if proton want good sales and better market share, the premium variant shld be priced not more than 70k.

this car have better features and spec, no need tv ad or expensive press ads,
hence budget can be use in QC and better features and quality.
i'm sure many of us will buy and recommend by word of mouth

they need to put more info on the website include detail promotion.
saving printing cost and manpower.
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Ads is still important ma. You think all those wimmiz and people that don't have much knowledge about car will try to korek info by him/herself?
Brand still play a major factor in Malaysia. Even with tahi spec, people still buy if brand name is gooding. Proton need to fight with this situation. Smart ads can help Proton to influence and attract more potential buyer.

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post Feb 25 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Vannus @ Feb 25 2012, 12:16 PM)
I don't think people will hate nice design, example like lancer GT original design bumper, after proton took over and redesign the bumper, I think it become worst. not become more sporty. Inspira RIM is another one, fugly like mad, not sure whatever thing that proton does on thier design sure make them worst. For majority, people will not say nice design is ugly, I never heard anyone saying forte is ugly, K5 is ugly, sonata is ugly, but i heard so many of them complain inspira bumper n rims s u k s compare to original. sigh to proton, gonna be another failure.
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It hard to satisfy everyone in term of design. Even top car manufacturer like Honda and Toyota also produce some lame design car like Vios & City.
But yea, Proton need better designer like what KIA does so they can consistently produce a car that able to satisfy more people.
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post Feb 27 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(MrssV @ Feb 27 2012, 10:13 PM)
Don't you know that BMW has provided this kind of services in their selected models for years? Haven't heard that BMW ConnectedDrive actually endanger the car driver or it passangers.
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Malaysian is special case ma. Some of us still got OKU mentality. Apply this danger, apply that danger. Always with negativity shakehead.gif
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post Mar 3 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 3 2012, 10:50 PM)
From the thread, he said himself from 1 of the supplier...  Sound pretty trust worthy and he didn't talk non sense there At least....
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I also can said i'm Proton supplier and then throw statement in internet to abuse this company.
This guy word might be legit but can't trust wholefully. Internet mang. We never know the intention of him while making that statement.

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post Mar 4 2012, 12:16 AM

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Good answer bro mat. Anyway did you amend your own sentence rclxub.gif
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post Mar 4 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Mar 4 2012, 08:41 PM)
Above average for all cars? *tactical facepalm
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Above average than the competitor in same price segment.
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post Mar 9 2012, 09:03 PM

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post Mar 9 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(FenomX @ Mar 9 2012, 09:23 PM)
OKAY i surrender,

PLEASE STOP WITH THE TEASER, I WANT TO BUY IT NOWWWWWW
P/S: my mom just asked me to get Toyota Vios instead...

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Toyota sales is high due to the average wimmiz like your mom.
My mom also prefer Vios than my Inspira. Wimmiz always look for brand 1st than other thing shakehead.gif
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post Mar 9 2012, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 9 2012, 09:34 PM)
but proton worrrrrr unsure.gif
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Because of Proton, many people excited about this car. If Kia launching a new car, the hype wouldn't as this high wor.


QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2012, 09:31 PM)
When I announced I bought a Saga, My sister's first reaction was "Why no buy Myvi? Toyota worrrrrr"
Malaysian wimmiz anyway. sweat.gif I think in other developed country, their wimmiz is more open minded in making choice.
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post Mar 16 2012, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Mar 16 2012, 12:22 AM)
Very promising biggrin.gif

Looks like if I do get this car, it is either Executive CVT or Premium.
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Get the CFE version. Only with this engine, you can see the true different color of Proton performance/tech.

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post Mar 16 2012, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 16 2012, 12:46 AM)
Personally, if you are not going to get the premium variant with CFE, then better get a Persona H line instead. The car is almost as heavy as the exora, which had underpower issues with its CPS variant. I dont imagine the IAFM+ powerplant will do any better, especially with full load.

Just sayin'.
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Yerp. 1.6 IAFM+ is just normal 1600cc engine. Add little and people can get a car with 2000cc car performance.
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post Mar 17 2012, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(iSpace @ Mar 17 2012, 12:03 AM)
Proton most good quality car just savvy. Other really suks to max. Campro engine is the most failure one. The latest good car from proton is inspira but too early to judge.
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Define failure.
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post Mar 17 2012, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(iSpace @ Mar 17 2012, 01:06 AM)
I dont mind.. My wife like to drive so much.
I guess u felt spicy over my statement. Lets see how p3 perform and the 2nd value.. Even perodua myvi 2nd value much better than your upcoming p3.. P3: pergi , pusing , pening
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This post just show the level of your intelligent. Car not even launch you already gave too much negativity. Typical Malaysian.
How to maju if this kind of 3rd world mentality mentality keep exist.
And your friend doesn't deserve to work at Proton since he doesn't even have confident with their company product.
I bet your friend just the type who love to listen cakap2 angin.


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post Mar 17 2012, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Mar 17 2012, 01:29 AM)
guys. i am a complete noob about car service cost. this probably will be my first car ever sweat.gif  i assume i'll be moving around 10000 km per year.

let say i reserve rm 1200/year for service cost of the premium cfe model. do you think it is enough? need your input.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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10,000km only? So little?
And RM1,200 should be more than enough. I guess the service cost at least should be same with 2000cc NA car (maybe less).
Not quiet familiar with turbocharge engine but if service cost is expensive, it will surely effect sales figure of this car.
One normal service normally should be around RM150-RM300 only.


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post Mar 17 2012, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Mar 17 2012, 01:41 AM)
thanks. maybe more than 10K km. i can't predict now.  i only hope the maintenance cost of the turbo is not too expensive. never own any car before, not even a turbo car  sweat.gif
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Well, this car not using turbo engine anyway. Just normal engine attach with turbo support.
This car target market is young executive and middle income people anyway.
If service cost is too expensive, their target market surely will run away sweat.gif
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post Mar 17 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Mar 17 2012, 03:28 PM)
guys. i have check one review on net. vios get 0 – 100 km/h just a little under 12 secs. it is faster than executive preve which takes 12.5 secs. and vios top speed managed to get 180 km/h yet executive cvt preeve 170 km/h only. hmmmmm. that makes me wonder

but premium preve only use 5.8l/100km. what is vios fc figure? premium preve should be better than vios right?
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If you care about performance, always optimize with Premium one.
Exec spec just using normal 1.6 engine. With P3-21A heavy weight body, the acceleration not really promising.

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post Mar 17 2012, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(iSpace @ Mar 17 2012, 08:30 PM)
Please try the myvi with ron97 pls. Dont bulshit here. My house got sylphy and myvi and sylphy fc is better than myvi. Myvi for pasar pagi buy sayur use okla.. Travel very far use myvi sure headache
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Depend on your usage.
If for long travel, Slyphy FC should be comparable with Myvi.
Myvi mostly for city car usage.
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post Mar 18 2012, 03:14 AM

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I don't think Proton stop the production of Persona since this car isn't Persona replacement in 1st place due to price diff.
Persona still sell well anyway.
If they plan to replace Persona, they might come out with new car to serve this price and target market segment.

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