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dares
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Mar 6 2012, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 6 2012, 05:18 PM) i strongly recommend 1st batch for u abt why...that would be a very long explanation but i would recommend u to get 1st batch might have a few problems but nothing that can't be solved with warranty and quality is better on the 1st batch I beg to differ, which is why I will wait at least until next year only I will consider the car. Besides, who knows how soon is the facelift coming
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archonixm
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Mar 6 2012, 05:24 PM
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I want p321a with manual and 6 speed + CFE, then i want to buy lol.
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swissprecision
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Mar 6 2012, 05:45 PM
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we still havent got the color right. but i am sure they are pushing for a launch in late March to early April....XD. only seen parts of the car like bumpers.
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stargate8
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Mar 6 2012, 05:56 PM
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proton facelift usually 1 or 2 years?
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MR_alien
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Mar 6 2012, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 6 2012, 05:23 PM) I beg to differ, which is why I will wait at least until next year only I will consider the car. Besides, who knows how soon is the facelift coming  facelift is very easy every proton model have a lifespan of 5 years and in that 5 years, that model will facelift 2 times so u count when
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ruffstuff
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Mar 6 2012, 06:58 PM
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It looks like Proton will be showing it's P3-21A during the Proton motorshow at Bukit Jalil next week.
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TSericmaxman
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Mar 6 2012, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 6 2012, 05:18 PM) i strongly recommend 1st batch for u abt why...that would be a very long explanation but i would recommend u to get 1st batch might have a few problems but nothing that can't be solved with warranty and quality is better on the 1st batch Puh lezzzzz la you. First batch is the white mouse, where Proton gets their feedback on how the cars actually react with customers. Then they proceed to fix it on later batches. Waja, Saga BLM, Exora, Persona are all excellent examples.
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ruffstuff
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Mar 6 2012, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 6 2012, 07:01 PM) Puh lezzzzz la you. First batch is the white mouse, where Proton gets their feedback on how the cars actually react with customers. Then they proceed to fix it on later batches. Waja, Saga BLM, Exora, Persona are all excellent examples. But totally opposite for Inspira. All hunting for the first batch to get CBU lancer.
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MR_alien
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Mar 6 2012, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 6 2012, 07:01 PM) Puh lezzzzz la you. First batch is the white mouse, where Proton gets their feedback on how the cars actually react with customers. Then they proceed to fix it on later batches. Waja, Saga BLM, Exora, Persona are all excellent examples. ya....go ask their 1st batch user thn you'll know instead of bashing here
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TSericmaxman
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Mar 6 2012, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 6 2012, 07:04 PM) But totally opposite for Inspira. All hunting for the first batch to get CBU lancer.  Because thats a rebadge car, not a full CBU from proton  even got heater i heard
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TSericmaxman
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Mar 6 2012, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 6 2012, 07:06 PM) ya....go ask their 1st batch user thn you'll know instead of bashing here i'm not bashing, its just that you keep insisting that first batch is so damn great  look from the 3rd person POV, then you're realise.. but since you own a Waja and a BLM, i doubt thats even possible
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ruffstuff
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Mar 6 2012, 07:10 PM
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It's pretty reasonable to be skeptical on the first batch. Even though P3-21A have different set of QA approval, we should always be skeptical.
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MR_alien
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Mar 6 2012, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 6 2012, 07:07 PM) i'm not bashing, its just that you keep insisting that first batch is so damn great  look from the 3rd person POV, then you're realise.. but since you own a Waja and a BLM, i doubt thats even possible  ya....u got the 2nd batch one...thats why u sappork it so much..right? so how was your car?...very nice? owait
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TSericmaxman
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Mar 6 2012, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 6 2012, 07:12 PM) ya....u got the 2nd batch one...thats why u sappork it so much..right? so how was your car?...very nice? owait  2nd batch dont have immobilizer. and after that got new color  and FL to FLX? thats sad
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dares
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Mar 6 2012, 07:19 PM
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To be fair, some first batches have better finishings and QC than later batches. But the first batch will also come with problems that could be attributed to design flaws. IMO, design flaws are more serious, like the CVT overheat issue with the FLX. Minor ones might be an annoyance, but major ones could be life threatening, until Proton receive the feedback and rectify it in later batches. Added on March 6, 2012, 7:20 pmQUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 6 2012, 07:12 PM) so how was your car?...very nice? owait  That was mean, pal. This post has been edited by dares: Mar 6 2012, 07:20 PM
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mat79
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Mar 6 2012, 07:43 PM
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To Mr sg999m,forgot to mentioned about this, since, ur friend's car experience jerkiness which i dunno what kind of jerk or level of jerkiness, why dont u ask u friend to do this test. Try to drive the car in L mode, then lift off pedal. Normally engine braking become harder n u really can feel the cvt characteristic of jerkiness when lift off pedal. If not, try SAT mode on for the whole week, never engage full cvt mode. Just do SAT mode only. Try to monitor whether it has the same behaviour during low speed when lift off the gas pedal or not coz in SAT, it is in simulated fixed ratio which means, the transmission is given fixed ratio through software. If the problem persistent(if it is severe, not part of cvt clutch based behaviour), i think ur friend shud send the car for checking even the light is not blinking coz jerk during lift of pedal,its normal, but it not really exercive. But jerking during pressing the pedal, yesm that is a problem. So, try out okey asap coz ur friend can send to sc asap for solution if the probs is severe
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turbocharged
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Mar 6 2012, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 6 2012, 07:43 PM) To Mr sg999m,forgot to mentioned about this, since, ur friend's car experience jerkiness which i dunno what kind of jerk or level of jerkiness, why dont u ask u friend to do this test. Try to drive the car in L mode, then lift off pedal. Normally engine braking become harder n u really can feel the cvt characteristic of jerkiness when lift off pedal. If not, try SAT mode on for the whole week, never engage full cvt mode. Just do SAT mode only. Try to monitor whether it has the same behaviour during low speed when lift off the gas pedal or not coz in SAT, it is in simulated fixed ratio which means, the transmission is given fixed ratio through software. If the problem persistent(if it is severe, not part of cvt clutch based behaviour), i think ur friend shud send the car for checking even the light is not blinking coz jerk during lift of pedal,its normal, but it not really exercive. But jerking during pressing the pedal, yesm that is a problem. So, try out okey asap coz ur friend can send to sc asap for solution if the probs is severe  hmm.....u dont sound like someone who got frens working inside proton. u....are ......the fren.......
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siaokialeong
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Mar 6 2012, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 6 2012, 07:49 PM) hmm.....u dont sound like someone who got frens working inside proton. u....are ......the fren....... shhhhh..we better remain silence to get more insider news :>
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mat79
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Mar 6 2012, 08:34 PM
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errr, i'm not the owner and in position to do a report sir, and the owner is suppose to report. And by the legit report by the owner will become an issue that they will check n investigate.
Coz the slow jerk when lifting the pedal, i dunno whether to call it jerk,is normal as mentioned by my insider n by own test driving it so many times, but what kind of jerk mentioned inside the forum still in question coz didnt know the condition. The owner need to send it out for checking if it is not a normal one.
As i mentioned earlier, i dun work in prtn. Even if i mentioned this car problem,that car problem, im not in power to do the complain coz the owner shud do it. Unless im a high ranking like ceo, md or chairman position in prtn or vvip in drb, then people will acknowledge my comments n reports.
Try out to complain about maybe ur friend car at any car manufacturer, they dont bother coz u r not the owner.
I just try to help by sugesting friendly way to check it. Any engineer or hnt team dunno what is the probs coz prior testing, no prob submerged, so,with the report,they can check it n rectify it. Any manufacturer will do the same.Do u know everything has SOP?
Anyway, it doesnt matter. I wish that i can do anything i like, but i dont coz im human by the way.
Just can share some info about what new in prtn. Yup, have all the confidential details slides on p321a earlier, seen the pictures early last year during development,but since ethics concern, only can convey in words, not uploading pictures n pnc slides or data to the net. Not only exora, has internal circulation booklet from neo, blm,persona n exora which comparing with competitors.
Dont like the info,its ok. I think no need to share here rite. I did spill out some info earlier before been exposed to the net indirectly mentioned this is the real info n etc coz it is no official anouncement by prtn,even the tyre size. Ok, i think no need to spill any info,the launch is near. Off by now in this topic, he...he...nice knowing u guys.
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mat79
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Mar 6 2012, 08:50 PM
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on stealth mode
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