QUOTE(kadajawi @ Mar 5 2012, 11:46 AM)
Haha, I think he claims to have good contacts, but to be otherwise unrelated to Proton. I can believe that. But maybe he is DSZ. 
oh....like that..... Full P3-21A Specs and Info!
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Mar 5 2012, 11:46 AM) Haha, I think he claims to have good contacts, but to be otherwise unrelated to Proton. I can believe that. But maybe he is DSZ. QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 4 2012, 12:49 AM) Added on March 4, 2012, 12:52 amdunno what happened coz replying using nokia e5, thinking of getting androids phone, but coz im not kind of person that like to waste money esp on hp unless kong, then, just settle for now with e5. Yup, sometimes i noticed my comment become double posting,sometimes it laps each others. |
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 5 2012, 08:15 AM) Previously,many dislike him coz he's so strict, performance basis incentive kind of a person. But in the end, they manage to see the reason why dsz act like that. If u want tp earn more,do a better job, so everybody must work hard, but really hard actually for him to diminish all typical malaysian attitude earlier, yup, still exist nowadays, but in smaller scale, not as big as before. However,really like him in person, really humble. Rarely u find somebody like that, in his position, have that kind of attitude. This person is really 'bukan bekerja utk saya, tp bekerja bersama saya', but the other one,i dunno. Really sad dr karl wolfgang epple leave out prtn b4 the launch of p321a which his doing a lot of effort. But he has his own reason for that. :-) I had seen DSZ at KLIMS 10 hanging around public to ask opinion about Proton... Another case he had said hi to me during GLC Week at KL Convention Center last year. I am on the way back at that time and he walked using public lane and not using VIP one.... I had work with Proton staff and frankly to said that they need to change their attitude very quick.... |
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QUOTE(danabu @ Mar 5 2012, 09:31 AM) Yes, with dsz, we see an improving prtn. Hope karl W resignation is purely his own reason and not new management to make him out. We need expert from any part of the world to make prtn success. or to give way to TM? |
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 4 2012, 12:57 AM) ha..ha..an engineer from proton working with supplier. Wow, thats news, cari duit luar ke bro :-). why saga flx cvt still facing issue ya?Anyway, all electronics equipments are being supply by vendors n actually the same vendors as others. Like srs airbags, only some vendors supply it, n they supply it to all car manufacturers on the world. Erm, maybe the engineer in that forum want to say, airbags are from protons, esp are from prtn(actually from bosch), ecu 32bit also from proton, n everything invented by prtn. Haish, dont the engineer mentioned know the word OEM? Previous supplier of pwr windows already out of pic, previously, prtn design it, send blue print to vendors, initial part is ok during selection, the u know what happened high production, they stumble(vendors)but dunno whether the new one, which one of global oem also will do the same thing, but seing exora(new vendor for pwr windows) still survive untill this day, i think it shud be ok. Now, many parts are oem, means standard across manufacturers to reduce cost. Like punch cvt,oem, prtn ask them to provide certain specifications for prtn cvt, they send out sample that they already tested it earlier(actually by doing this can make development time cut short)then prtn n lotus tested it, send all data to punch, if there is any dissactifaction, punch will try to make it as being demand. Thats why now gbox warranty is handle by punch,not prtn coz using oem. Previously, prtn buy the gbox, so,if anything happened,like savvy amt, prtn send complaint to renault, but because renault say their gbox never had that problem, so, prtn have to bear it. But worser, when this happened after warranty expired, consumer have to bear the cost. But for oem, punch is responsible to cater any problem arise in the future coz prtn now order punch to build a gearbox for them, then pay the cost pergearbox as agreed in agreements. not buying them like previously as mitsu,renault n prtn try n error. So, if abs prob, i think trw is responsible, esp, bosch, iafm plus injector also bosch, meter instruments, some electrical components including ecu,wiring n harness, bash continental ag. I think all suppliers mentioned are oem for other makes also. correct me if im wrong, dunno whether vw using vw brand esp, vw brand abs, vw brand turbine, vw brand ecu n vw brand wiring n etc. Normally oem make it on behalf of them. By the way,if u notice, the windows supplier also change, slowly, now flx using st gobaiin sekurit if im not mistaken, blm is ms standard, fl, not so sure, but 1st gen exora using diff vendor also, but both exora n flx window vendors are oem for beemer. Some said st gobain is better, some said the other one is better,dunnolah, as long as oem other big co,for me its oklor. Can check oversea beemer forum. Still confuse with prtn engineers work with suppliers, never heard before. Anyways, it seems like a bold move before launch by others perhaps coz to make sure that buyers are holding on buying untill they managed to launch theirs, so that when too many options, buyers will confius. N maybe buying them coz of brand image compare to prtn. N the engineers also dunno prtn using many oems, seems like lazy engineer lor, what do u do at prtn rnd? Come, eat n sleep n punch out? No wonder many problems in prtn cars coz they have engineers like that. Dunno what is happening around them :-). the car keep jerking during low speed and engine check light will sudden on. |
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better get it checked..
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i herd rumors that this car will have dsg gearbox and night vision. Not bad for a proton eh..
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Mar 6 2012, 12:46 AM) why saga flx cvt still facing issue ya? im not dsz by the way. Wish to be but frankly not. Not related directly like working for prtn. Indirectly,yes, as friend with some members.the car keep jerking during low speed and engine check light will sudden on. By the way, if i not mistaken, prtn already issue recall for that which actually come from punch itself to one to one change cluth oil pump of cvt. U can check the letter been scanned in cari gold forum. Its happen to 1st batch flx,thats why there have been a little delay on delivery. The batch effected had been recalled n the newer one already been replaced in the factory. About check engine light, better check the battery connected whether it was connected unproperly or loose. It is not connected with cvt coz if cvt problem, the light on gear lever numbering will blinking, means gbox prob. Is it the aduanrakyat(not official blog for tv3 by the way), is it? As i said earlier about how oem work rite. The jerk is inconvinience, but not causing gerbox@engine damage,it just not smooth during low speed, and punch did rectify that. If u have experience driving dsg during cold start without warm it up properly, u face jerking problem, so as amt in savvy. It is clutch based after all,same as dsg,same as amt. The diff,punch cvt with single clutch, dsg twin clutch,amt single clutch. |
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QUOTE(Johnix @ Mar 6 2012, 06:36 AM) i also want to start rumors lah... I heard rumors , this car , the premium version, comes with 4wd,light rims, 6 speed manual gear box, a different tune of the cfe ( heard higher hp & torque) , and only comes in black. with r3 doing further tuning. |
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 6 2012, 08:22 AM) im not dsz by the way. Wish to be but frankly not. Not related directly like working for prtn. Indirectly,yes, as friend with some members. i seeBy the way, if i not mistaken, prtn already issue recall for that which actually come from punch itself to one to one change cluth oil pump of cvt. U can check the letter been scanned in cari gold forum. Its happen to 1st batch flx,thats why there have been a little delay on delivery. The batch effected had been recalled n the newer one already been replaced in the factory. About check engine light, better check the battery connected whether it was connected unproperly or loose. It is not connected with cvt coz if cvt problem, the light on gear lever numbering will blinking, means gbox prob. Is it the aduanrakyat(not official blog for tv3 by the way), is it? As i said earlier about how oem work rite. The jerk is inconvinience, but not causing gerbox@engine damage,it just not smooth during low speed, and punch did rectify that. If u have experience driving dsg during cold start without warm it up properly, u face jerking problem, so as amt in savvy. It is clutch based after all,same as dsg,same as amt. The diff,punch cvt with single clutch, dsg twin clutch,amt single clutch. i also saw some member mention after replace the oil pump the jerking was reduced but still there. even now the flx 1.6 also has the same problem but this can be solve by press the pedal. i info my friend tighten the battery. see will improve or not thx ya. |
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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Mar 6 2012, 07:25 AM) i also want to start rumors lah... lol..meanwhile i heard this car using tank body frame, cannot bengkok one if accident.I heard rumors , this car , the premium version, comes with 4wd,light rims, 6 speed manual gear box, a different tune of the cfe ( heard higher hp & torque) , and only comes in black. with r3 doing further tuning. |
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P3-21A habis.. ppl are waiting new VW Saga now...
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i keep hearing this
P3-21A , when will be release ? i mean marketed ? |
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If it is not (soft)launched at the Bukit Jalil event middle of this month, chances are it will only launch in April or later.
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