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This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Feb 14 2012, 06:42 PM

oh mana tak sakit hati dengar

kampung, how much is ur salary?

before my salary rm1200 as a technician
Now i hear salary only rm900 only

fap

Ayam sad.

Rm2000 ok la.... People on the old days are very smart.... They din use calcultor, highly productive as well.... People these days.... Dunno anything also wan money~

This post has been edited by poyohebat: Feb 14 2012, 06:40 PM

boleh mati

And yet people here always want to hentam fresh grad.... kesian...

that's y now those position took by bangla edi.

Purchasing drop but still able to make the difference to make the purchase

not enough if u stay in KL, away from home.

Those days, credit for consumers are rare or even unheard of, in Malaysia.

Nowadays, many Malaysians has credit card.

kesian you all salary so low

KL is not for 2000 to live one.

Things in those days more affordable in terms of % of monthly income.

So credit card still need to pay, if apparently there is a lot of people bankrupt, i don't see any slowing down at all, sales still going like hell on luxury items, phones, luxury cars, houses, people still got money so sit in traffic jams no need to work.

credit is good.

& H&M will open store in m'sia soon.

i know your salary > 90000 ..but monthly deposit/saving only 10sen ...

last time fresh grad equiped with basic equipment: desk ,chair and minimal resource... they worked diligently.

Now given full internet access computer... they go surf net trying to unblock FB.

no, i am a student, don't have income yet. i spend my parents money. u jelly?

Fresh grad now minimum should be RM2.5k.

especially here in Klang Valley.

kuih pisang 5 sen 1 sisir~ lol~

Price hike is caused by greedy people.... Price increase, people lazy, unproductive.... So how?

i use my credit card i treat it as debit card ..earlier of each month ..i deposit 500 to 800 into my card..then spend it..maybe end of the month i spend 6xx ..then my statement will come -1xx ...then i continue add in rm500 ..and always keep make it in negative value

what i want from credit card is teh benefit

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Feb 14 2012, 06:48 PM

internet + fast pc = more productive.

i tink many not honest about their 'real' income, otherwise country would have really slowed down, i think the items change only, rather than less spending

credit card use to e a great deal, until the stupid 50 bucks tax.

my parents spend my money ..u jelly?

same in penang ..fresh grudate engineering 2nd upper in factory around 2.5 to 2.8 ..first class can get 3k ..possible 1

ya lo

my parents no need to spend anyone's money. you jelly?

what to do, Mahathir cronies songlap everything and still blame citizen malas .

in b4

but u still spending your parents money ..when i student i already no spend my parents money already . u jelly?

1983? since mahathir bcome pm?

aiyer, arrogantnya

Actually, the average basket of price of goods only abit over doubled now compared to 1983. BB data (55 vs 118)

Likewise, graduates could already get RM2500++ even after tax and EPF.

I think the triple in price in certain goods has been balanced by stagnant price of necessities such as water/electricity/transport, on top of the additional of new indicators such as internet and mobile data plans.



More importantly, you cant directly compare people from 1983 from now.

People from 1983, download movie 300 byte per second. Now we can download a full HD anime within 20 minutes. water in 1983 is dirty. no 4-car LRT train, etc etc. As a person who actually LIVED from 1983 till today, in no bloody way will i prefer 1983 compared to today.

This post has been edited by YameteOniichan: Feb 14 2012, 06:54 PM

i do not think the figure/data you show is accurate...
many freshmen driving big car, living in big house

This post has been edited by likimikuku: Feb 14 2012, 06:52 PM

full of debts or inherit from parents

car 10% already can come out ...100k car only need 10k DP ..but installment until shitbrix

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Feb 14 2012, 06:54 PM

ya i hear many stories oh this so and so bugger just bought 700k house, and only 27, and it's true also.

most of those people still live with parents thats why they have more money to spend, dont take people from ss2/bandar utama all these areas to make a judgement as a whole. not everyone eat in restaurants and use smartphones etc

but still the number is wayyyy exceeding those that don't, logically if we cant afford the numbers would be smaller, but malaysia no logic, only complain and lie

ayam fresh guy also ...live with parents right now ..give my parents money + my persona loan + food(lunch only) and petrol ..every month still can save 1.5k << havent deduct expenses like buy dslr thing or pc thing


in be4 i foreveralone

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Feb 14 2012, 06:57 PM

is hard to determine...
when i ask how much they earn... they said less than 3k...
but living style is >999999999999

i start to think Malaysia salary is at least 5k per month...

even when i work in oversea... i also cannot afford the lifestyle you guys have in Malaysia...

most stay with parents so meals and accomodation is saved and spent on cars and gadgets



and u have statistics to what you claim ??

This post has been edited by replymela: Feb 14 2012, 06:58 PM

want lansi ...ppl got ipong i also want ipong ..end up subscribe package or 0% interest payment ..in bright side ..yes they are rich and have luxury life ..at the back ..when every month bill come ..they will crazy


imagine if they suddenly jobless for 3 months ..they confirm katoi 1

ya ..meals + accomondation can save a lot

yup, i've been working overseas also and i cannot imagine the europeans living like we do, they just cannot afford it, no way not a chance,

but malaysians fuuu like no limit, eat out, car, go drinking/clubbing, ipong, ipad, what what expensive gadget, and all these are MORE expensive than in europe itself.

cannot cari makan? yeah sureee

i see, your grandma worked in law firm and did SnP agreements also?

apa boleh buat?

majority rakyat malay-sia bodoh

i see my lecturer earning 6k pounds per month ..cycling come to work everyday

imagine malaysian got 10k salary per month ..drive sport car and park like boss already

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Feb 14 2012, 07:02 PM

in my experience, spent the most is really when coupling.
if single, seriously save >999999999

true story

bro 6k pounds minus tax, take home only 2-3k, malaysian earn 10k only declared half

This post has been edited by rcracer: Feb 14 2012, 07:04 PM

fresh grad engineers nowadays expecting rm2500 minimum.

and they expect rm3500 after two years, because they know they can jump to another company after gaining some experience.

at least you give your parents, some people dont even give or give little thats why they can buy all the nice stuffs

LOL where have you been living? ghetto? uk usa and aus shop and go on holidays to europe/asia like there's no tomorrow. they dont even save money.

that has to do with properties right? most people have their parents pay their downpayments

but they go hospital almost everything free

we go hospital kasi doctor chop 99

from my understanding... if you dun have certain amount of salary or meet requirement of the bank...
you will not entitle of loan...
but if they got their loan approved mean.... they are not earning less then 3k...

for a 500k house.. you need more than 3k salary right??

Lynas give RM3.5K for forklift driver wor

i work half year ..i already jump

some people dont even give ..somemore take from parents ..that 1 really !@#*&@!(# ...<<true story from my family

for personal = yes ..what happen if his father become his guarantor ..then different story

they cannot own house, own expensive car,

but malaysians also go holiday like hell even if exchange rate is high,

so in theory we spend at least 10x more than they do but still managed to afford it and do it.

They do it because their money is bigger.

So means we are sooo much richer no?

but still we can afford private healthcare, even though as claimed by many 'no money lah'

ONLY one thing you folks/citizens NEVER change yet.....

and that is the gov.

so...you want another same statistics for another decade?....your choice....

bcoz traveling is my dream & hell i'm gonna do it even if it kills me, or i hav to bag pack.

i dun mind save like hell for half a year, then blow it all on a single vacation to europe.

1Malaysia government: Rakyat masih lagi cukup makan......

if the theory of 'cannot cari makan' is right, you are not supposed to be able to save at all.

yes they do, their housing is only what 200-300k AUD and below 400k quid for nice 2-3 bedrooms in city centre? for the same here is about 800-1mil in kl and its smaller too

the malaysians i know dont go on holiday so much, even if they do its all cheap places like local or thai/bali etc. maybe your friends are too rich.

actually, if you are a real hard core traveller, travelling is insanely cheap.

I consider myself as quite a hardcore traveller (LOL).


So i only sleep in train/aeroplane. I bring all my food from home. mini rice cooker, rice, all bawak. Then i always plan such that at night, im always on a train going somewhere. this massively reduces travelling cost. if i have to stay somewhere, ill book cybercafe's or motels.

Because outside malaysia, food is simply too crappy. You dont go for food. you want to look at stuffs. hence you bring ur own food.

this means, you can go to europe with less then RM3K. mostly to pay flight tix.

company allocated la bang

well, to be honest, i dun hav such cannot cari makan problem....
from grad also no such problem.

but kinda pity those frens who does.

Conclusion:

Malaysian want easy job with high salary and spend like boss then only complain with gov say gov hisap wang

I think the problem is more complex than mere government and public policy.

It comes down to many things,

1) Oversupply of graduates with little in terms of trade skills. Overemphasis on the IT wave
2) Our economic position as a source of cheaper skilled labour
3) A lack of investment in practical skills and too much emphasis on academia
4) Lack of collective bargaining arrangements and unions for workers. We just aren't interested

so if we can afford 800-1mil then still go holiday in europe and other places where it's bigger in currency, doesn't that make you very rich?

can cari makan 1 ..if he doesnt carry extra debts ...but kesian to them having 3k salary but want to have 20k punya lifestyle

ya...actually the accommodation is not a problem.
heck, i've spend som nites just wondering around bcoz cant get a place to stay.

money is mostly spent on transport (especially plane tickets), & those entrance fees if wanna go in some attractions.

this!

malaysians have a lot more disposable income than really admitted, a lot of company benefits somehow 'disappear' when asked about real income

i got som frens.
com here to work from another state.
rent outside, hav to send money to parents bck home.
for those people, budget is really tight.

& his spending style edi quite kedekut....

who can afford that ask ktards, most still staying in parents house.


true story , but it's the government's fault our people are so dumb, all from education. keeping people dumb so they can rule for centuries

This post has been edited by replymela: Feb 14 2012, 07:19 PM

my income doesnt exceed 2k, problem officer? but planning to do double jobs.

thats the ideal life for rcracer

/k/ tards mostly kids lah, and no one ever admits they have money, ever!

but like i said SnP are being done and closed at those prices, no slowing

my aunt also does SnP lah, its already slowing for KL/mont kiara areas. its very soon that people realise properties are too inflated. you know all the ages of the people that buy property? or you're just assuming everyone is rich just because some speculators are snapping properties

I think nowadays freshie salary is quite high. Sometimes even better then me after working 7 years.

However, one thing that differentiate us is how muc difference graduate pay for their studies nowadays. When I was trying to get a higher diploma in IT, it was only 13k for 2 years. Now the figure is quite scary. My sis went for a year in Taylor and my dad was left shaking in disbelief when he was told the tuition fees is in the 20k++ for a year not inclusive of the monthly usage for petrol, tolls, meals etc.

fuuu you know mont kiara kl 1 mil also not enough. now only slowing means all those years before that people and reports say we no money is tipu?

last time to be a graduate is like being a phd holder today

I went through the same education everyone went through. It is up to the individual and above all their parents and surrounding culture to instill a love of thought. How many parents these days read to their kids? Most just turn the TV on and let it do the parenting. I got TV for 30 minutes a day, then we read for an hour before we slept in my house.

In the Ray Bradbury classic, it is not the government who has chosen to take liberties away from people, but people themselves, wanting easier entertainment, more mindless lives, less burden from thought and so forth that took away their own liberties.

ei....20+k fees is considered very cheap edi la...

when my father time ..holding SPM like degree already

a year that's cheap? IPTA only 2000+ now that's cheap.

only the rich are buying lah, the rich are getting richer i noticed. the upper middle class is shrinking or upgrading to upper class whilst the lower middle class and poor increases. becoming like pagoda. people complaining are fresh grads who earn <5k? those people buying million dollar properties are not in this category

tak apa, next election bring down BN, I wanna be representative of /ktard to compete next GE

What.... you think other party can increase salary just like that?

Thing sure is lot difference after 30 years.
Just sharing some info I know within my field:
During the 80s, a low ANSI (<1k ANSI) projector was selling for RM 10k and above. Today, you can get a 2,700 ANSI projector for RM 1,099.
During the 80s, a piece of fax machine that consume ink film was selling for RM 3k. Today, the similar model is only retailing for RM 399.

The senior salesman told me, during the 80s, if he manage to sell 2 units of projector, he can go for holiday for the whole month. But today, the commission given out by manufacturer is terrible.

This post has been edited by gs20: Feb 14 2012, 07:32 PM

You think every family's dd also earn 100k a year aa? Somemore for one son/daughter only. You haven't include the installment payment for vehicle plus this and that. One year exceed 40k for sure.