Hi,
thanks for so many feedbacks from u guys. really appreciate that. previously i sent the car to auto world asia sg buloh. that is the first time is sent to sc, they blame the paddle lock. they advised to removed it. ok i remove. the second time i sent to rawang (bcoz nearby my house) they sent to peringgit sc coz for diagnose using computer, that's the time they reset the edu. the third to auto world again.

this morning i sent again to auto world asia sg buloh. they ask my permission to keep the car there for at least 3 days for them to check. i did ask what if they couldn't detect the problem? they said will ask honda malaysia peoples to come together and check (which mean i will not be driving my civic for at least 5 days +/-)
they still don't suggest to put that paddle lock.

i think will wait for their response for this. if still not satisfied, then probably will email to honda malaysia (as what u suggested). btw how to cc to honda thailand and asia?
tribunal will be the next step if still no satisfied answer

Thanks a lot for opinion from u all. will update here what's their response after this.

btw, is toyota much more better and reliable than honda ka mr Viking Kong?

hi bro,

thanks for the concern. the third time incident actually happen when i was driving on third lane highway, but luckily traffic not heavy, so managed to stop at the roadside.

mine is 2.0 navi.

Aiya...last time M3WHITE says, he have an expert honda friend at SC that said 'FD more powerful than FB'.
Cannot help?
Actually, your problem hard to explain. Ofcoz, SC can connect the ECU that indicate the problem. But how if ECU indicate your car is ok?
To get better fuel efficiency, most hondas have been equipped with ECU PGMFI -Programmable FI. This system is different with other manufacture. PGMFI also have in honda motobike as well. As Honda Cbr user, i know how the system working.
In PGMFI, there some function called DFCO - Decel Fuel Cut Off. Act, when braking the car approching traffic light(example) at certain RPM, the engine shut down. No spark and ignite at this moment in engine combustion while your pistons are still moving. Once your car completely stop, then engine will ignite again.
This is brilliant design from Honda for fuel saving but unlucky u may have the defect ecu. Maybe.
Not sure, whether M3White's expert friend(SC) knew about this.

Disclaimer, this is my opinion. Could be wrong.

Subjective. 2-2 ok.
Comfort- toyota
Handling - honda

For current model, i dont think honda can provide best handling. Look at new accord. No double wishbone anymore. Only independent multilink. sad.

The problem with Honda SC is there is no center diagnostic data accumulate for whole Malaysia. If this SC never encounter such a problem before, they just guess what is best to solve it. The easy way out, just RESET it.

If Honda MY have a center database for the SC, they can search the history back that probably others SC have experience before.

I ask them before during my FD electronic board have some strange problem. They said nothing.

Another possibility is the faulty sensor. There a lot of sensors that connected to the ecu.
I have experience with my motorbike before.
Common for motobike, if ur bike fall during engine on, the engine automatically off to prevent fire. This is for safety reason. There is a lean angle sensor that send the info to ecu in milisecond.
Unlucky, that sensor got problem thus sent wrong info to ecu. Ecu assume my bike was fall and cut off the engine.
After change the sensor, everything back to normal.

what is the offset of this honda civic?
if the offset of the rims is 28, can it be used in 2012 honda civic? thanks.

This post has been edited by arcryliss: Dec 3 2013, 12:16 AM

Any FB want to buy :

1. Original H11 fog light bulb ? Letting go and not use fog light, is consider new. Letting go RM100/pair.

2. Original small bulb T10 for headlamp side light, letting go RM30/pair.

3. Original (never use) front grill, letting go RM500.

Price nego, COD pj, midvalley.

TQ

Where can I upgrade my C70 (1990) & EX5 (1996) with computer board?
Next time just tune
hahahaha
Viking Kong, U don't angry lah...

Toyota
Comfort
Easy Spare Parts
Spare Parts much, much cheaper vs Honda or Mazda
Reliable
Fresh, New & Sporty Design
Many Acc

Honda
Previously great in Design but now ugly, mostly at all
FB (facelist 2014) vs Altis 2014 (Honda kalah teruk)
City 2012 vs TRD 2012 (Honda also kalah)
City 2014 vs TRD 2014 (Honda pun kalah)
Accord 2011 vs Camry 2011 (Honda juga kalah)
Accord 2014 vs Camry 2014 (Accord better design but smaller in size, when u r inside Camry, u still feel comfort & u cant see the ugly of Camry, bcoz u r inside the car)

Honda
Poor design 2012 onward
expensive parts
not so reliable
Dual VVTi + Twin Cam (Better performance) but iVTec (single cam with eco mode performance like myvi)
Old man design
backward technology (twin cam to single cam)
Spacious boot & legroom in FD but no more in FB
Low end plastic material in FB

I think, I should follow Viking Kong, Can't wait for new Altis 2014
But Altis launch quite sometimes in abroad & Thailand, I don;t want
I think Mazda is very honest to bring latest design to Msia, look at Mazda 3 Sedan skyactiv, it is wow!!!
If Viking Kong inside, U ll see him more wow!!!
and look great with push start button
If u test drive Mazda 3 Kodo design, u ll be half crazy & ll delate memory in Civic

It has been raining for almost 8 hours and today I encountered the working of VSA through the steering response and the warning light on the meter console when my right front wheel went through a deep puddle of water travelling at speed of about 80km/h. Cheers.

Toyota vs Honda

Honda SC : 100% own by dealer with limited equipment
Toyota SC : i) Direct own by UMW (Toyota Service Centre)
ii) Own By Dealers

If U purchased Honda & service in SC Selangor, A shop & done 100,000km in 2 years.
Aft that, u adjust millage to 0km & used it for 20,000km, aft that send to JB Honda service Centre (1st 5,000km, 2nd 10,000km, 3rd service 15,000km & 4th service 20,000km).
Again u advertised in JB, FB 2.0cc 2 years, done 20,000km only.
Don't believe, check the record.
Buyer can't detect your FB done service at A shop in Selangor 100,000km but when u wanna sell, u may ask buyer to check in JB & all record shown 20,000km

Y this happened?
Bcoz Honda service centre own by difference SC (all dealers) so they don't have linkage record for service.

Toyota, all link, by key in your vehicle number, all recorded updated
U may check in Penang, Johor or Pahang... can see in details

So, which SC better?
H or T?

Go to any Honda SC and ask them to plug in your car ECU to their computer. Then, everything will be revealed including its actual mileage.

Honda is reliable and not much big problem.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
check 14 November 2013

wow... mind to explain more? the indicator light up for how long?
if i were you, i will get a shock of my life especially under this kind of weather condition...

think at the wise side, do you want to get something most advance and slightly high tech, reliability might be an issue depends on how they developed it and applied on real life... or stick to the oldies technology just because this foreman know how to repair it and proven reliable bla bla bla...

if consumer have this kind of mind set, they will get to choose what they want...

Got experienced in driving around 80km and suddenly emergency brake and the VSA works.. and the steering like auto move to another side or so..... to avoid collide

Bro,
Actually I wish to say sth very honest, but if I say here, many forumers ll kick me (I don;t mind)
But I am really mind if Viking King kick my ass.
Forgive me if i express myself here ye.....
may be right, may be wrong......

My 1st car was proton, many, many problems until 1 day I sold off the car & swear not to buy this brand anymore.
Sorry to say so, but I don't mind & not blaming proton bcoz proton is a proton & always proton.

I then drive Toyota, very happy even though it is not BMW, hahaha
One day, I saw Gen 8 (early 2005) from the neigbour country, I chase the car & I love the design but I don;t like the Brand
Later on, Honda Msia launched Civic Gen 8 (end 2005)
I dont buy bcoz it is Honda
End 2009 again new FL
I started to follow up on this model until 2012, I heard All new ll be in Msia
So, I was waiting for new FB
Until get to know Thailand launched FB
I read many news on failure, recall of FB
Finally, as conclusion, FB
1) Ugly look (front City & rear Persona)
2) Very tall (sport car always low)
3) cheap deskboard (low material)
4) small boot like city
5) rear passanger (small size) always knock th head to enter
6) Single cam

When i hear your story on the problem, I don't feel shock
FB recall in many countries like US, shut down plant in India
Mostly Civic fan ll be waiting for Gen 10 to launch as Gen 9 many issue

I finally bought last unit of Gen 8 FL on 2012, hehehe
resll is good but Handling can't compete with mazda
Comfort can't compete with Altis
but design of Gen8 FL is great, that is the reason i buy

May be this is my last Honda bcoz i ll switch to Toyota
Bcoz Toyota great in term of
1) technology
2) design
3) comfort
4) JIT, cheap spare part & lasting
5) choices of SC
6) resell

Our die hard fan Viking Kong, can't wait for All New Altis

How long you own this 8th gen already? I'm pretty sure you can get a good price for it when you sell. After all, if there's anything that's actually good about a Honda, it's that it has a really good resale value.

You can then move on to the new Mazda 3 that you are raving so much about next year.

Ironic that I moved on from the Toyota because of point 1, 2, 3 and 4. Especially point 3, I've had the current gen Altis, and I was forever having sore left leg because of the drivers seat. While I'm sure the car was quite comfortable for the passengers, it wasn't that comfortable for me... especially on a long distance journey.

Yes u are right Bro,
H & T very good in resell.

Last 07/2011 my bro he bought Altis
RM132K (took out discount & insurance RM6k) RM126K
Done 33,000km & last week he sold RM91K (still in the process Puspakom)
126k-91K = RM35K/30 mths (RM1,166)

My friend bought Mazda 3 (RM120K) excluding insurance, sold 10/2012 at RM80K
RM120K-RM80K = RM40/18 = RM2,200

Actually I wanted to wait for fresh Gen 9 (FB) bcoz Gen 8 (launched end 2005), many years
When Thailand launched (I shock to see City Head & Persona Tail), I then decided to get Gen 8 FL
At that moment Sept 2012, many people still place an order for Gen 8 FL
Culturally, end of life cycle should be huge discount (like CRV RM13K off, Altis RM12K off)
Gen 8 FL, 0 discount
In fact we are Not sure can get it or not bcoz many people still asking for Gen8 (due to Thailand website of Gen 9)

I drive Gen8FL for about a year (done, below 19,000km)
Everytime I send to SC, many Honda staffs, including SA was offering to buy
According to SA, the demands for Gen8FL is very hot & hard to sell FB (failure in demands)
Sorry, not intent to insult FB users, but this is what happened

According to SA & many of my friends, Gen 8 very successful in design bcoz very long life cycle (2005-2012) 7 years in the market without changing the model (structure) & yet new FB also cant win people heart.
The demands for Gen 9 still great (never happened in the human history, except Saga 1985-2005 (20 years) or Wira 1992-2008 (16 years) but that is a national targeted lower end for those has got no choice).

Honestly, I never put HONDA in my heart or in my head (hahaha)
I really don't like this brand of H bcoz of many reasons.
In Japan, many of Japanese appreciating Toyota & proud of T (many reasons)

I normally ll buy a car with a fresh design, not end of life cycle but it happened TERBALIK....
What should I say is, I always lie to myself that FD is ugly
No matter how ugly I say to myself & my friends, lie is lie & always lies

Finally the reality is I ending with owning Honda Civic Gen 9
I really like the design even though it is expired design
I like the performance of 2.0 iVtec with Twin Cam
Lower position, when I inside the car, people can't see me easilly from out side
But when u talk about Comfort, I don't really feel that Comfort compared to Altis
I experience once as Vios 2010 passanger, suprisingly I feel the comfort even though that is B segment
I dont really feel that i my FD, C segment

Now I am thinking to convert to type R or Mugen RR
Acc shop told me, the advantage of Gen 8 is a transformer, can chance to Type R or Mugen RR with a budget abt RM2K (RM2K can make a new toy from out side) but FB cannotlah.... dissadvantage

Now I say to myself, may be this is the 1st & the last I drive Honda
Next round should switch back to T brand for comfort & better design (affordable price)
Even though Mazda 3 skyactiv is my lover but worry about resell
May be if I am rich enough, I get C200 lah.....

This post has been edited by M3White: Dec 6 2013, 11:24 AM