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 2012 Honda Civic Malaysian Version Revealed!, Here's how our new civic will look like!

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ozak
post Jul 17 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Jul 16 2012, 10:59 PM)
deep down in the heart of every Malaysian, they wanna get Honda..

unfortunately, Honda price is a bit turn off..so, just buy other cheaper model..

this is based on my experience..others may differ with me
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You remind me back early 20's when looking for car. Deep in my hearts, I always like to have a Honda car. That time is gen5/6 which is good sale and look. But the price is expensive. I only can afford rm100k car. So get another brand and wait passionly.

Honda gen7 arrived and a big dissapointment with the design. Pass this gen7 and continue drive with my old car. sad.gif

Gen8 arrived and this is it. Trade in my old car and get this gen8. Dream come true. smile.gif But it is enough for me for the Honda car. The price is just too expensive now and doesn't make sense.
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post Jul 17 2012, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(starship1 @ Jul 17 2012, 03:20 PM)
i dont see how the Gen 8 Civic is more stylish or beautiful than the Gen 9 Civic .Maybe Honda have plenty to live up to after the Gen8 has given them much success and adoration.

It is a proven brand and as such it ought to sell more expensive than its competitor especially with malaysian mindset businessman.

i personally have seen the new civic at honda showroom and see nothing wrong with it even with the much critisized  hard plastic dashboard

the SOHC was preferred for better FC without compromising much on power and i'm sure many potential buyer will like this . the 5 years unlimited mileage warranty offer a peace of mind and there are extras features added in as well with 1 or 2 k more than previous model. so what is the fuss about
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This civic suppose to be cost down version for honda. But here the price is even up higher. Even the engine don't look good compare FD2. Does the price justify.

Another is, local honda assembly intend to use 60% local content. That should reduce the price and not getting higher. Our local parts more expensive? Is it worth to buy?
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post Jul 18 2012, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(winger7 @ Jul 17 2012, 07:34 PM)
bro, i don't think i have ever seen a new model launched which is priced cheaper than its previous version. the price increase for 2.0 is about 2K. if you averaged out 2K over ~5 years, and factor in the inflation, and some of the features given and also the new 5 years warranty - i dont think the buyers are any worse off. i think the debate between SOHC vs. DOHC will be never ending, but to the normal users - i dont think the difference will be obvious.

btw, i dont understand when ppl debate over if a car is value for money. i always see a car as a lifestyle, and a choice. i've already accepted the fact tht owning a car in malaysia will never be cheap. so the question should always be - how much you are willing to spend? not which offers the best value.. cars that are so called value for money usually have an underlying reason why they are priced lower.. right? haha
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Do you know that the manufacturing side always have an opposite thinking than the average consumer like bro? Each year they will strive for the lowest cost and cut cost to lower down the price of the car.

And yet, we keep thinking the car price MUST go up. Gen8 already price up 3x from RM120k if not mistaken. Put in some different design accessory and up the price. The base car it still the same. The torque of the car is still the same. The engine is still the same. So what change?

Does the gen9 better than the gen8? Do the engine have more HP and torque? Does the handling better than the gen8?

This car if not lifestyle. You pay additional RM34k+ stupid tax to the gov. And see this car as an expensive car? The japanese is laughing at me. blush.gif


Added on July 18, 2012, 10:04 am
QUOTE(electron @ Jul 17 2012, 10:54 PM)
local content doesn't mean cheaper parts
typically locally assembled cars has a lower price due to tax differences
but to say that local content means cheaper parts, hence lower car price is not always accurate
you need to look at the volume and economy of scale for the local made parts
which would you think make the cheaper part?
- a factory in japan producing a part at a volume of 100,000 a year
- a local factory making 10,000 of the same part a year
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If can't lower the price from the local content, than no point saying want to acheive 60% local content. Does it make sense? hmm.gif I guess you are more happy if the whole car is made in japan content.

This post has been edited by ozak: Jul 18 2012, 10:04 AM
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post Jul 21 2012, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(mysjumblesale @ Jul 21 2012, 11:40 AM)
Between 1.8 and hYBRID... WHICH ONE better? =)
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Why you want to get an expensive no power hybrid car? How much this civic PONDAN car compare others hybrid?
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post Jul 21 2012, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(mysjumblesale @ Jul 21 2012, 12:45 PM)
Spec is better in Hybrid (add RM4k). Other Hybrid car cause RM14Xk++.
Insight and Jazz is smaller and HB. Should not insult any car as Pondan or whatever as choice is down to each different individual. Choice must not be undermined. Thanks. =)
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Yes, I m insulting the hybrid civic as PONDAN car. I seeing civic as associated with speed and power. As traditional Honda civic manufacturing. But now, put some lower power engine, some heavy battery in a great car?

What is the 'power of dream' mean to you? Ask the Honda change it to 'saving of dream'.
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post Jul 21 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Jul 21 2012, 03:48 PM)
Wow you must be driving a F360 masculine ferrari.
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I love power of dream.
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post Jul 22 2012, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jul 21 2012, 05:13 PM)
If you haven't noticed already, Japanese manufacturers are moving towards electric and hybrid. The Civic is just another casualty of this green environment and Eco movement. It's going to continue this way for years to come so deal with it
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I know Honda will go hybrid way back 2005. Even you never heard of it that time. My company is making machine for making hybrid engine part. Than following Honda exit F1 where is surprise everyone.. Honda start not to dream for chasing power car. Instead green. Have you follow this?

But why not leave civic alone and create a new line of hybrid car? Just like Toyota. They don't put hybrid on altis, etc. instead they create new line hybrid car like Prius and now Prius C.

Yes, I deal with it. No more Honda for me. How am i going to buy a civic which is no improve over gen8. And yet more expensive.
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post Jul 22 2012, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 22 2012, 05:40 PM)
how can u expect everyone doing that same thing??

u are kidding? its like asking why mcdonald do not sell ramly burger and why kfc did not sell satay...

why must honda follow toyota??

everyone here is not going to buy civic, we know we know ,now go buy your ford/kia/hyundai/peugeot ok?
Sorry, nobody doing the same thing. Everyone have it own taste. But I see some weak point and doubt about their price on the car. Should we keep praise blindy without critic?

Who told you "everyone here is not going to buy civic" ? Are you telling everyone not going to buy civic and suggest otherwise? rclxub.gif

Now ford will comeout new asian version ford focus. 2.0l, 170hp, DOHC and Ti-VCT engine, nice interior with many goodie at the price range of RM130k. If the price is right, this should put the new civic to shame.

Hold your horse and check it out at here -> http://paultan.org/2012/07/21/driven-new-f...sedan-in-krabi/
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post Jul 23 2012, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(zib5 @ Jul 23 2012, 12:19 AM)
bro, i dare not ask these questions to the honda lovers here. Too advanced la bro..enough la..let them be..

The FD2 civic doesn't even have onboard trip computer but nobody made any noise..y ppl like to be sucked dry by Honda??..I don't understd la these ppl..

sigh..with this mentality Mysian auto scene will be very boring and becoming more and more like indonesia and vietnam market..

anyway...their money their choice..for the others use your money to buy something more interesting.

Get a life
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Honda car is always associated with speed and engine power. Honda involve in F1 to develop a better car and more power engine. You see more racer use honda car than others brand. There is more race accessory out there for honda car than others. Well, you don't understand this if you not car fans.

Why no ppl complain about FD2? FD2 and it engine is another best car after long drought from honda. After success in model eg/ek. The FD2 design is much more ahead than others model brand at that time. Even till now. That is why many honda fan bashing this new model.

But honda is chnaging strategy now. No more power engine. No more F1.

When you don't look into their history, you don't understand the car philosophy. You only know the surface.

I don't understand why woman like to buy a RM40K LV bag. hmm.gif He.....
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(stix @ Jul 23 2012, 01:07 PM)
there, you've said it yourself. there are certain things that you can't and never will understand. doesn't mean that honda started as 'spirited driving', all of their cars have to comply to it. ffs, even Lambo has SUV now.
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Sorry if I mistaken you. It is just an example to show what TS think of don't understand.

For me, I understand why ppl have this all crazy buy with no sense.
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post Dec 1 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(nazlizainuddin @ Dec 1 2013, 03:42 PM)
the first time i sent, they suspect due to paddle lock that i put at brake paddle. that i put at accessories but suggested by honda salesman. so, already removed. the second time it happen, they did reset the edu, the trouble code and that's all, according to them nothing is wrong..no charge. then it happen again the third time, this time i was driving at third lane…luckily the traffic was not heavy, i managed to stop at roadside before it suddenly dead..plan to send to honda again but if they keep on saying the same thing, what u all suggest me to do? any opinion? really feel headache with this problem, coz I'm planning for long distance travel with family. afraid the same thing happen again, quite dangerous lah, suddenly cannot accelerate then engine just die off like that.t
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This is serious problem. I m not sure which SC you take. Those small SC don't have enough equipment to check. There try to bullshit to avoid major claim.

Try to bang their table and raise your voice. 3rd time and still tell you no problem? Ask them to log in to the car ECU. Their pc should be able to tell the history alarm of what happen. Those small SC don't have such equipment.
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(viking kong @ Dec 2 2013, 08:10 PM)
Aiya...last time M3WHITE says, he have an expert honda friend at SC that said 'FD more powerful than FB'.
Cannot help?
Actually, your problem hard to explain. Ofcoz, SC can connect the ECU that indicate the problem. But how if ECU indicate your car is ok?
To get better fuel efficiency, most hondas have been equipped with ECU PGMFI -Programmable FI. This system is different with other manufacture. PGMFI also have in honda motobike as well. As Honda Cbr user, i know how the system working.
In PGMFI, there some function called DFCO - Decel Fuel Cut Off. Act, when braking the car approching traffic light(example) at certain RPM, the engine shut down. No spark and ignite at this moment in engine combustion while your pistons are still moving. Once your car completely stop, then engine will ignite again.
This is brilliant design from Honda for fuel saving but unlucky u may have the defect ecu. Maybe.
Not sure, whether M3White's expert friend(SC) knew about this.

Disclaimer, this is my opinion. Could be wrong.
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The problem with Honda SC is there is no center diagnostic data accumulate for whole Malaysia. If this SC never encounter such a problem before, they just guess what is best to solve it. The easy way out, just RESET it.

If Honda MY have a center database for the SC, they can search the history back that probably others SC have experience before.

I ask them before during my FD electronic board have some strange problem. They said nothing. sad.gif
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post Dec 13 2013, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(M3White @ Dec 13 2013, 05:34 PM)
Why u are so emotional bro?
Take it easy bro, relex!!!!
Act more mature bro!!!

OK OK, your FB is the best vehicle on earth, I ll sell FD & buy FB, happy?
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If you really do that, you're stupid. FD driver generally see FB as disappoint car.

 

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