Previously I used Mazda 3 (2.0) & change to Civic 2.0 (Gen 8.5).
I bought my Civic on Oct 1st, 2012 (used 1 year).
I am happy with performance & everything except:
i ) FC Ron95 (21.5 cents/km)
ii) Boot Trunk cannot open via remote
What shoud I do then?
Go to acc shop, removed previous (ori alarm system) & install the new 1 with boot trunk?
or
Just do modification on original? (but Honda & acc shop said cannot)
Pls advise

Hi Bro & Sis,
1) My Civic (2.0cc) end 2012, last batch of Gen 8.5, millage 14,000km.
When I full tank & 0 up millage, drive 2 days, pump & measure, I just noticed it cost me at 21-23 cents per km, is it a normal?

2) Anyone can advised how to modify to make boot trunk to open via remote?

3) OEM-Dashboard Build (DVD GPS), how much & is it better then original 6CD?
I enjoy watching news while driving

Regards

U may contact Mr Jack
If Civic Gen 8 or Gen 8 FL, should buy 8 inch (Taiwan) bcoz 7 inch is China
GPS devided into 2, 1 is ori & another 1 is immitation (non updatable)

http://www.mudah.my/Honda+civic+oem+dvd+pl...on-23176763.htm

Do u know Why my Civic 2.0 Gen 8.5 (2012) Fuel Compsumption is so high 22-25 cents /km
Long distance is only RM17.5cents
is it normal?

Sorry Bro to confuse u
It's a layman language

example
Accord Gen 7 (2003-2006)
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Accord+A+1+0-23793453.htm

Accord Gen 7.5 (2006-2008)
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Accord+2+4+i+Vte...06-23802696.htm

Civic FD1 (Gen 8) 2005-2009
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Civic+A+-23747391.htm

Civic FD2 (Gen 8FL or Gen 8.5) 2009-2012
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Civic+A+1+8+type...it-23749320.htm

Civic FB1 (Gen 9) 2012-now
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Civic+A+-23768642.htm

Civic FB2 (Gen 9FL / Gen 9.5) expected 2014
https://www.google.com/search?q=civic+2014+...iw=1366&bih=660

Hope u can gt a better picture for a layman language

1st of all, I full tank & 0 the millage
1-2 days later, I drop at petrol pump to full tank

Measurement City Drive
Example : millage 122km & full tank RM31.88
RM31.88/126km = 0.2530 cents per km

Measurement Long Distance Drive
Example : millage 350km & full tank RM60.20
RM60.20/350km = 0.172 cents per km

Very accurate test

Can I know which 1 is better
Gen 8 vs Gen 9?
No Bias Pls

Civic 9.5 Gen or Gen 9 FL
https://www.google.com/search?q=civic+2014+...866%3B610%3B458

https://www.google.com/search?q=civic+2014+...866%3B610%3B458

This post has been edited by M3White: Oct 18 2013, 12:52 AM

Y Hyndai & KIA model similar with VW & Audi?
I was made to understand Korean get same designer with VW & Audi, so that their design so attrative.
Honda & Toyota didn't design themselves but they out source to designer company to do so.
May be bcoz of that, it happened to be the same
Anyhow, T & H the designer always emphasis on DNA (T&H)

But Altis 2014 look more sexy & it is a waited model

Bro,
Pls go & check the original from the manufacturer can play DVD while the car is moving?
Bcoz the government rule is that, the monitor should not be seen while u are driving for safety purpose.
In fact, the manufacturer didn't build Tuner for TV bcoz they ll get headache when customer complaint on poor receiver.

The OEM (many manufacturers, many players) they compete 1 another & they don't have to go through automobile company to again mark up the price. Basically the player is about the same.
If I were u, I ll buy out side from OEM company bcoz they build for Toyota, Honda & many more Cars.
U ve alternative to get:
i) Ori GPS or Non Ori (ori Map is upgradable but non ori depend, some can some cannot)
ii) Double Din has got many OEM player like China (mostly 7 inch), Taiwan (mostly 8 inch) & Korean with Android system
iii) Pls ensure it is plag & play type (not wiring cutting)

How to identify plug & play or wire cutting?
If the casing sell separately or non TV Tuner, Sony, Kenwood, Pioneer or any popular brands, mostly wire cutting (ur vehicle ll feel pain, as well as owner heart)
If no brand & dash board build with button in casing, that is OEM (plug & play) + with Tuner features.
Blue tooth Atenta seem convenience (remove ori player, replace with OEM player & paste the Blueetooth antena all done.

8 inch Taiwan OEM dashbuild Player (Tuner, GPS non-ori & DVD) + Installation + TV Antena (Bluetooth type) RM1,100.00 Only.
8 inch Taiwan OEM dashbuild Player (Tuner, GPS Ori & DVD) + Installation RM1,100 but Blue tooth antena RM70-RM80
Revrse Camera RM100-RM150 only

Again, don't go for Ori Honda Double Din bcoz RM5K too expensive but buy out side
RM1,200 - RM400-500 sold ur old 1, add on RM800
Anyway, up 2U to decide Bro

Bro,
If u really wanna buy, It is a good choice to get:
i) Aft next week budget, in case they drop the price, but I dont think so bcoz it is a revenue to government. May be Hybrid incentive bcoz 31/12/2013 (expired 2 years free tax), might extend
ii) Buy year made 2014, in case missing or total lost, u ll get better compensation. Resell & loan also give big impact
iii) Wait for "Gen9.5" or "Gen 9 FL" (Europe Spec)
Honestly, Civic always a Hot Cake & long waiting list without discount, but Gen 9 is failure model (based on international report, less then 3 mths launched in US, recall 50,000 units, India Plant Shutting down due to low market).
CEO admitted due to low cost build up to compete & material can be recycle aft 3-5 years, but Msia not happene like that, we buy for 20 years.
Luckilly I got mine end 2012 (2.0cc), Gen 8.5 (FL), Twin Cam, powerful
Many friend ask to buy from me

U experience ur self.
I experience both & personally feel Gen 8.5 more power compared to Gen 9
HP is on paper.
Anyway, it's just a forum chat, don't be too emotional
If u are happy with Gen 9, go & buy

Bro,
Simple layman language lah ye.....
HP or PS or whatever measurement indicator..... all stated on paper.
Example 155PS in Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Mitsubishi, KIA, Hyndai, VW, Peugeot & many brands.
Not all the same even though it is the same in numbering "155"
Again, layman language, your Size is L for John Master, it might be XL size if it's Charlie brand
But if u bring your body & tested... your ll not really emphasis on L or XL but fix & comfort.

SOHC vs DOHC
which 1 better in overall?

Civic FD - Gen 8 (2005-2009) & Gen 8.5 (FL Model, 2009-2012) series
1.8i & 1.8L (Both SOHC)
2.0 & 2.0 M Concept (DOHC)
Why Honda made SOHC for 1.8 & not DOHC?
or both DOHC for 1.8 & 2.0?

Civic FB (2012-now)
1.8 & 2.0 (Both SOHC)
How can u be sure of performance?
i) Try to get any 2.0 DOHC from friend or tested from used car
ii) Again tested 2.0 SOHC

You can feel the difference by your own.
Me, tested both & my experience :
i) 2.0 SOHC not that powerful compare to 2.0 DOHC
ii) Ask honest Honda mechanic, ensure No bias element, He ll tell u, 2.0 SOHC FC slightly lower as well as power.

If u happy with Gen 9 design, SOHC engine & low FC, then go for Gen 9
If u ask when new FL ll be available (Gen 9.5), I don't think u ll get the answer
But if u follow the automobile rythm, u can see, whatever model launch in Thailand, ll be in Malaysia 6-12 mths.

If Honda Msia leak info, Gen 9.5 ll be launched soon, mean they prepared to suicide!
Me, at 1st place, I though Gen 8 & FL model quite old (2005-2012), I am about to wait for new model Gen 9, wait since 2011, tiba-tiba, I saw Gen 9 in US, India & later on Thailand... that moment, I make up my mind to Buy Gen 8FL (FD2).
I used for 9 mths & experience
FC in long distance very save 16 cents/km
only town very 22-25 cents/km
I hunt for the answer & finally get 1 which made me satisfy
U look for low FC, go for Vios, MyVi for Viva even better.

U want performance 2.0 DOHC, a friend of mine expert in Honda servicing told me SOHC Jimat FC but less power.

I strongly believe u bukan budak-budak, buying RM100K++ toys is not a joke.
Tested, make up your mind & buy....
If u want Urgent, buy now but if u can wait, surely there ll be FB2 but no one can tell exept:
1) God
2) Honda CEO
3) Time to tell

Sorry bcoz saying emotional...... but my intention just contribute some idea as sharing in this forum

If I were u now, I ll consider Mazda 3 (skyactiv 2.0) as low as Vios the FC
World top 10 engine & superb design vs Civic Gen9

Mazda good in design, engine, handling, performance but poor in Resell Value

2.0 DOHC, my experience
I over take a car in high way, the driver unhappy & over take me
Again, when I tried to over take him, he change gear & go very fast
I then switch gear to "S" mode, click -ve
Result : The car suddently dissapear from my backview mirror
It is happened in my 2.0 DOHC but I when I tested 2.0 SOHC in Honda showroom, I dont feel SOHC can do that.

Thanks Bro for the above link, very clear explaination
As a conclusion

2.O SOHC
PRO
i) Pick up better in "low-end" mode, like city driving, stuck in the trafic jam
ii) Low FC in city drive due to low RPM in city driving
CON
i) Highway (less power & high FC)
ii) Long distance "high-end" driving in high way (100km/h & above), high RPM causing high FC

As my conclusion, SOHC suitable for:
i) City driving
ii) Drive that not really emphasis on "Speed" (120km/h & below)

Bro,
Y I bought 2.0 Gen 8 FL (Gen 8.5) where I suppose to get all new fresh model?
Actually very RUGI buying expired model Gen 8.5 for the last batch 2012
I bought the last unit of 2012 & it is discontiue.

At 1st place I wanted to buy on 2010, that moment I heard a romour all new Gen 9 ll be born.
Closed my eyes, should be SEKSI but when they launch in US, seem like SEKSA
Aft that, I read 1 US website saying 50,000 units recall, again India Plant was shut down due to low demand.
When they launched in Thailand, I wait untill SA said last unit left without discount (where got clearance without discount)?
Only successful model in Gen 8
Once they launched in Msia, I heard respond so slow.
I brought my friend to test drive Accord 2.4 lately & he saw Gen 9, He said this City should discontinue bcoz too old (actually Gen 9 with City face). I hate the tail bcoz look like Persona.
Nanti people said Persona, I ll suicide with RM130K
Inside very small, especially back seat.
Material very low grade and someon whisper, it's a downgrade version bcoz Honda reduce cost to compete but NOT in Msia
I decided to test drive and I am very Happy bcoz I own better model, with better quality & it is DOHC...
I tested & result is very much difference in Power for DOHC

If I am buying a car now, I ll consider
All new Altis (fresh sexy model, good FC & Resell) but remain same VVTi engine
or Mazda 3 skyactiv salon, sexy, low FC, fresh design & all fresh engine with high performance
Don;t worry resell value bcoz u buy for ur self
Those ppl buy H & T, they are actually buying for others (next buyer-resell value)

Look at Mazda 3 skyactiv like a Pampers (Pakai Buang)
HaHaHa
Wait for Budget to drop the price

Bro,
Legroom improve space improve but Headroom too small (if u r 4.5 fts & taller, u need to adjust your head while enter/inside the car.
Seem like many non important improvement
But non of the Honda salesman ll said new Gen9 cut cost
Ugly
Beauty always in the eyes of the beholder but many eyes agreed on the uglyness og Gen9, including me.
U wanna get improvement spec, Honda salesman ll
but if u wanna get down grade in, othe brands' salesman ll tell u

Seem like u are very Drunk of this Civic Persona Gen 9
If Tiara or Saga SV put emblem of Civic, sale also good
it is a power of Brand

Gen 9 also came with
i) push start
ii) remote to open the boot trunk
So, go & buy.........
Budget is over.....

This post has been edited by M3White: Oct 26 2013, 01:37 AM

Hi Bro,
Try visit this website & contact them.
FYI, the best brand for break lock & engine lock (2 in 1) is Locktech.
Locktech is the pioneer producer & the most established brand for the above mentioned lock.
They made for so many car brands & very reliable.
Other brand like cobra, snake, chicken, duck, donkey, crocodile and many types of animals name are copycat.
I dare not to say they are no good but Colgate is the best among toothpaste, hahaha

I went to many acc shop & they don't sell Locktech, others as low as RM150 (100% the same)
Until enter 1 shop & he offered RM300.00 including installation.
Bcoz so excited, I dont ask for discount

http://www.mudah.my/Original+lock+tech+HONDA-23958056.htm

Hi Viking Kong,
Aft quite sometimes silent, no sound no pic.
As I informed u previously. All New Altis is excellent & Superb,
Now u only realised.

Anyhow, it is not too late
All New Altis ll be lauched soon, expected Jan 2014 bcoz current Altis clearance with off RM12K (dealer & Toyota)

I wish to make correction from your info
Current Altis price
1.8E RM115K off 12k = RM103K
1.8G RM125K off 12k = RM113K
2.0V RM132K off 12k = RM121K

For All New Altis, the price unconfirm yet, bcoz Gov ll announce new NAP (National Automobile Plan).
Assuming no ammendment in NAP, the All New Altis ll be
1.8E RM118K
1.8G RM128K
2.0V RM135K
There is no such of 2.0G, unless u buy 1.8G & change the sticker to 2.0 & remain G at the back

Anyway, once All New Altis launched, Gen9 will offered big, big Rebate or DIE
Honda Gen 9.5 also ready to launch once all new Altis kick their ass
whatever new civic launch, as long as it is Gen 9 or 9.5, it is not well accepted in western, US. India & China... even Japan people also cant accept low grade material & ugly design (front City & Rear Persona)

Jangan Marah

Unitron,
We both speak the same language of fact.
We stick to our strong principle
We LIKE K20 (R type)
We agreed DOHC better then SOCH

our friend Viking Kong, sekejap like Gen 9, sekejap jatuh cinta sama itu All New Altis
Sekejap kecewa sama itu 2.0G (naked spec carry 2.0cc engine)
Better buy 1998 Civic & change 2.0 accord 2nd hand engine...... cheap ma....

Actually bro Viking Kong, all those info that u is not surprise to us like wikileak info P&C info leak by Toyota Marketing Team but being announce openly by Paultan on Nov 4th, 2013, see the evident....

http://paultan.org/2013/11/04/2014-toyota-...ated-pricelist/

Can easilly get from Mazda 3 forum

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2551857/+1120

Bro Viking Kong

If happened u visited Mazda 3 forum, u ll change your mind & say....
I love Skyactiv, can't wait for that chicken, it is delicious....... eggs are ready

I still remember your sweet word on Civic Gen 9
aft that u posted this

Looking forward for coming all new altis 2014. My plan on civic 2.0 postponed. Haha

1.8E - 115k
2.0G - 125k
2.0V - 137k

For Navi add 1.8k.

Ermmm...2.0G....delicious (Viking Kong)

No worry bro Viking Kong,
We live in a free country & we are free to fall in love in any brand of car but don't expect too much from T & H, bcoz culturally the poer of Brand, no matter what design & what price tag they put, people still buy......
If Juara (Proton Juara) launched by T & H, people will WOW!!! & buy.... bcoz it's Mini Alphard

Bro Viking Kong, jangan mrah2 lah, just a forum chat2 only ma......
sometime opinion might be diffrence.
If u buy Gen 9, don;t forget to let us to know la.... it is beautiful with better SOCH engine
Gen 8 is outdated, launch since 2005-2009 (FD1) & 2009-2012 (FD2)
Gen 9 (FB) Oct 2012-Oct 2013 (1 year) & Thailand already simpan that model bcoz........
May be demand so good & to make in LIMITED EDITION like "M Concept Gen 8) they should stop production & let FB2 to launch, U should buy now before disscontinue.