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post Feb 9 2012, 03:43 PM

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Just curious. I am looking for a position in Singapore. My expected salary is SGD4500. But my friends told me that most of her friends request between SGD 3 - 4k. I am in the IT line and I am a J2EE developer. Do you think I am asking for too much?
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 03:43 PM)
Just curious. I am looking for a position in Singapore. My expected salary is SGD4500. But my friends told me that most of her friends request between SGD 3 - 4k. I am in the IT line and I am a J2EE developer. Do you think I am asking for too much?
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Yes. Because based on information provided, 2 person asking (since u said friends, plural) between $3-4k and u asking $4.5k. so obviously u will be the 3rd choice.
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post Feb 9 2012, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 03:43 PM)
Just curious. I am looking for a position in Singapore. My expected salary is SGD4500. But my friends told me that most of her friends request between SGD 3 - 4k. I am in the IT line and I am a J2EE developer. Do you think I am asking for too much?
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No, you should ask 8000. If not, stay in Malaysia better.......too many people come here, later room rental is going to increase.....it will affecting us here... tongue.gif
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post Feb 9 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Feb 9 2012, 03:38 PM)
Nah....My friend get warning if he still not transferred the info to new passport, next time, they will not allow him to get thru the custom..... sweat.gif
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I see. I'm sorry if I've provided any wrong information.

I just renewed my passport and I had to go through the manual counter. One of the officer told me I can update my new passport info at the office anytime (in order to use the automated system) but I never did since everytime I was in a hurry to go back home.
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post Feb 9 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 03:43 PM)
Just curious. I am looking for a position in Singapore. My expected salary is SGD4500. But my friends told me that most of her friends request between SGD 3 - 4k. I am in the IT line and I am a J2EE developer. Do you think I am asking for too much?
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number of years of exp?
if u wan 4.5....just try and ask for 4.5
No need to lower to 3-4 as the employer will do that part for u.
if the employer doesn't then it is ur gain.
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Feb 9 2012, 12:20 AM)
Hi all, since I think all here been working in SG for some time (long or short), may I know where do you invest your money? MY or SG? And which area do you invest in?

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Generall decision between MY or SG would depend where u intend to use your money in the future?
Are u goin to be for next 5 or 10 years? are u goin to buy property here? or are u goin to buy big property in Msia?

Unless u know between SGD or MYR which one will go up? i would think both have chances of goin up against each other. flex.gif

Reason for SGD to go up -> interest rate very low, there's no other way than goin up. Int rate up, currency up.
Reason for MYR to go up -> a lot of infrastructure projects potential and they are oppening up to attract more FDIs. More FDI, more MYR demand, MYR go up.
Reason for MYR go up -> It is closely benchmarked to USD. USD go up, MYR go up. WHy USD go up? Cos it is a safe haven currency for western investor demanding treasury bonds, as opposed to EURO, GBP and arguably the other carry trade fav, Yen. Further, US economy looks more positive recently.
Reasons for MYR to go down -> gomen sucks, and will deter FDIs from pouring in.
the list will never end...

In terms of specifically what area to invest in MY or SG, I asked this before, but was suggested to open a new post under the Investment thread.
If u dun mind you can do the honour. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Feb 9 2012, 03:59 PM)
number of years of exp?
if u wan 4.5....just try and ask for 4.5
No need to lower to 3-4 as the employer will do that part for u.
if the employer doesn't then it is ur gain.
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6 Years. My current salary is RM 6600.
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 04:03 PM)
6 Years. My current salary is RM 6600.
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Then I can tell you 4.5 is very much lower than what the market can pay you.
Go higher...match your number in ringgit if you want.
IT is a good market. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Feb 9 2012, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 03:43 PM)
Just curious. I am looking for a position in Singapore. My expected salary is SGD4500. But my friends told me that most of her friends request between SGD 3 - 4k. I am in the IT line and I am a J2EE developer. Do you think I am asking for too much?
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if most of her fren having the same skill and experience as u then ask lower , basiclly u screw shakehead.gif
then the answer is yes , u asking too much compare to your fren fren sweat.gif

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post Feb 9 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Feb 9 2012, 04:08 PM)
Then I can tell you 4.5 is very much lower than what the market can pay you.
Go higher...match your number in ringgit if you want.
IT is a good market.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Are you sure? I have a few friends working in IBM. They are around 35 years in age doing support and they are getting SGD4500. They are also singaporeans. Are you sure that the market in Sg can pay SGD 6600?


Added on February 9, 2012, 4:12 pm
QUOTE(ivanswk @ Feb 9 2012, 04:10 PM)
if most of her fren having the same skill and experience as u then ask lower , basiclly u screw    shakehead.gif
then the answer is yes , u asking too much compare to your fren fren  sweat.gif
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That one I am not sure.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Feb 9 2012, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Feb 9 2012, 04:10 PM)
if most of her fren having the same skill and experience as u then ask lower , basiclly u screw    shakehead.gif
then the answer is yes , u asking too much compare to your fren fren  sweat.gif
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If she can convince the interviewer to pay her that amount, why not? Put there with a nego clause for get out of jail card.
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Feb 9 2012, 04:12 PM)
If she can convince the interviewer to pay her that amount, why not?  Put there with a nego clause for get out of jail card.
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The thing is. Even if i put SGD4500(NEGO). If it is too high, potential employers will not even look at it.
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 04:11 PM)
That one I am not sure.
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sweat.gif then why u comparing
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 04:11 PM)
Are you sure? I have a few friends working in IBM. They are around 35 years in age doing support and they are getting SGD4500. They are also singaporeans. Are you sure that the market in Sg can pay SGD 6600?


Added on February 9, 2012, 4:12 pm

That one I am not sure.
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it is very much up to u.
if u think ur skill set can demand that much, why not try?
i have slightly less exp when i came, and i am not specialized like u (u are in j2ee, i am half bucket of water)...but i got more than what your frens' frens said. tongue.gif tongue.gif
but if u think 6.6 is too high, then i advise u go for 5 (round numbers are good)
employers will rarely match the number u ask unless u are exceptionally good or the number u ask is very low.
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(L7Awesome @ Feb 9 2012, 04:12 PM)
If she can convince the interviewer to pay her that amount, why not?  Put there with a nego clause for get out of jail card.
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Then, he worry people dont even call him for interview....first step...failed..... tongue.gif
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Feb 9 2012, 04:16 PM)
sweat.gif then why u comparing
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Because my friend is around 35. I am around 30. I really do not know the market in Sg. I dun think it is fair that companies are paying on a 1-1 (RM- SG) scale. Can someone maybe advise me the scale? How much lower should i ask for based on my current salary of RM 6600?
Thanks


Added on February 9, 2012, 4:20 pm
QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Feb 9 2012, 04:17 PM)
it is very much up to u.
if u think ur skill set can demand that much, why not try?
i have slightly less exp when i came, and i am not specialized like u (u are in j2ee, i am half bucket of water)...but i got more than what your frens' frens said.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
but if u think 6.6 is too high, then i advise u go for 5 (round numbers are good)
employers will rarely match the number u ask unless u are exceptionally good or the number u ask is very low.
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How did you get the job btw?

This post has been edited by sylar111: Feb 9 2012, 04:20 PM
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 04:19 PM)
Because my friend is around 35. I am around 30. I really do not know the market in Sg. I dun think it is fair that companies are paying on a 1-1 (RM- SG) scale. Can someone maybe advise me the scale? How much lower should i ask for based on my current salary of RM 6600?
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i think someone mentioned maximum to go down is 0.8 before.
if u think u are overpaid currently, then 1-1 is hard.
underpaid, must go at least 1-1.


Added on February 9, 2012, 4:24 pm
QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 04:19 PM)
How did you get the job btw?
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to be honest...i have no idea. laugh.gif laugh.gif
i submit resumes all over and there is no way i could remember all the applications i clicked submit / emailed

This post has been edited by crazy25kid: Feb 9 2012, 04:27 PM
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Feb 9 2012, 04:17 PM)
Then, he worry people dont even call him for interview....first step...failed..... tongue.gif
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Haha.. true also. It's not easy getting 1-1. When I come here, I only gets 70% of my Malaysia's pay. So I know it's going to be quite difficult but do not sell yourself low though. Make sure your resume is impressive.
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post Feb 9 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Feb 9 2012, 04:19 PM)
Because my friend is around 35. I am around 30. I really do not know the market in Sg. I dun think it is fair that companies are paying on a 1-1 (RM- SG) scale. Can someone maybe advise me the scale? How much lower should i ask for based on my current salary of RM 6600?
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how much lower can u stomach? blush.gif
if u serious think your failure to secure a call from your prospective employer or headhunter is your salary then just scale it down further, it just a click rolleyes.gif lower 10% each month until u suceed rolleyes.gif hahah..

but if u have dun enough spammin so far hmm.gif ,
i believe some irritated HH will have somehow call u n discuss your expectation with u,
not getting a call at all maybe u need to relook at your profile nod.gif
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Feb 9 2012, 04:46 PM)
how much lower can u stomach?  blush.gif
if u serious think your failure to secure a call from your prospective employer or headhunter is your salary then just scale it down further, it just a click  rolleyes.gif lower 10% each month until u suceed  rolleyes.gif  hahah..

but if u have dun enough spammin so far hmm.gif ,
i believe some irritated HH will have somehow call u n discuss your expectation with u,
not getting a call at all maybe u need to relook at your profile  nod.gif
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Just curious, do you guys put your salary in the resume? I do not do that though.

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