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deadpool77
post Mar 15 2012, 01:40 AM

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hi guys,

want to ask for your advice. i got a job offer in sg. The post is System Analyst. heres the package:

salary: $3800
bonus: at least 3.5month anually
annual leave: 24 days
Medical: $350
Dental: $200

My current salary in KL is RM6200 including allowance.
3.5 years experience in system development and 2.5 years in application support.

Do u guys think its worth it. im holding the offer letter now thinking whether i should sign....

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post Mar 15 2012, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Find The Way @ Mar 15 2012, 08:00 AM)
3.8k for 6 years experience sounds a bit low to me... is the minimum 3.5  months bonus in black and white?
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seems low to me too ;( tried to ask the agent to nego a lil more for me, but she said the company wont go any higher...
ya the 3.5 bonus is in the offer letter.

QUOTE(ivanswk @ Mar 15 2012, 08:00 AM)
^no the $ alone not worth it
more info whether u coming alone, renting, and current expense
im coming alone. but ive a lot of friends in Sg. even my bestfriends are there. ill rent. my current expense is about RM4K per month..

is it really not worth it? i was thinking i can save more with this new job but feels like im downgrading a lot where i may not have to..
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post Mar 15 2012, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(chanti-sama @ Mar 15 2012, 09:39 AM)
No way... Ask for 1:1 or a 10% cut from ur current after a 1:1 ....
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is this really applicable? i hear most people don't get this kind of offer anymore?
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post Mar 15 2012, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Mar 15 2012, 09:47 AM)
the $ is a straight no, if u have a lot commitment like mortgage etc.. 
ur self also hesitate when see the figure, but then in your mind must be thinking, maybe can jump or get substanstial increment if u perform well sweat.gif , sadly seen more people get dissapointed on this

unless u have a well plan strategy,
ur plan of come and have a look might end in dissapointment  sweat.gif
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ive a house loan im paying at rm800 a month here in KL..

actually i've been looking for a job that fits me in Sg for almost 2 years now. and this is the best offer I've seen so far. before i get the offer, I have told myself 'if i'll be offered minimum 3.8K, i'll be satisfied...'
isnt the bonus good and makes up for the low salary?
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post Mar 15 2012, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Mar 15 2012, 09:56 AM)
when you talk to high class people, they will look down on your 3.8k. If you ask a Tan Sri, he can tell you even a 100k salary is also not worth it....it all boils down to what you want for yourself.

The minimum 3.5 bonus is SGD 13,300 = RM32k. Even you spend all your monthly 3.8k salary, at the end of the year, you will have RM32k savings, can you do that in Malaysia?  doh.gif still want to think.....you dont think Singapore's road is full of gold bars for you to come and pick up....

you dont take the job, there will always be someone willing to take it up.....and once the boat left, you will be left searching for may be another 2 years?
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whats your point actually? are u suggesting or not suggesting? your statements are kind of contradicting each other.
anyway thanks for the advice.
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post Mar 15 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Mar 15 2012, 10:11 AM)
3.8 is EP level, u be foreign talent to sg already
if u think the $ can sustain u and worst case "fail" and still can go home, nothing too lose. then.. 

can sense u wanted to come, haha just the $
bend a bit and life more simple and a clear strategy u might survive

got people here come look look, no breakthrough after awhile feel not worth the sacrifice 
give up on detach house stay in small room with crazy landlord
give up driving, taking bus with china lady screaming on the phone
give up mamak, eating mee with vinegar inside  sweat.gif
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thank u for the constructive advice. lifestyle wise i think i won't have a problem. i've been there many times and i actually want to come so badly because my fiance is there and also the better opportunity.

give up on detach house stay in small room with crazy landlord
this one no problem coz ill stay with PR friend and rent whole house

give up driving, taking bus with china lady screaming on the phone
this one is ok too coz i lived in japan for few years and got used to public transporting

give up mamak, eating mee with vinegar inside sweat.gif
this one maybe will sweat.gif

i think ill miss driving most of all.

but again, thanks! helped me to decided a little smile.gif

QUOTE(crazy25kid)
deadpool77, if you do not want the job, can intro me? 
Seriously, I want that job.


u in IT as well? maybe u can shed some more light? it seems the support jobs pay more there?

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post Mar 15 2012, 10:41 AM

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[quote=ivanswk,Mar 15 2012, 10:25 AM]
^ same like me lah when i was 20+ then,
wanted to come so much, with only spm grade 2 hahah..
my mind was decided even work as kuli at port, carrying guni bag also want to come
dang, come here see see
sg dun need kuli hahah.. doh.gif
lucky manage to join a mnc rolleyes.gif


Added on March 15, 2012, 10:26 am

u in IT as well? maybe u can shed some more light? it seems the support jobs pay more there?
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deodorant and kykhor, think both in IT
both in 5-6 plus category nod.gif
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5 6 ++.. that was my initial expected salary back when i first started looking for job there. after tonnes of let down and few headhunters telling me "Impossible" i had to lower it down by so much..

crazykid ill ask the employer if theres any more vacancy left icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 15 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Mar 15 2012, 10:48 AM)
thanks.
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recently there was an ad for Citrix Engineer in Sony Sg offering $8000. why dont u try.
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post Mar 15 2012, 01:32 PM

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post Mar 15 2012, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(siberfriend @ Mar 15 2012, 01:41 PM)
lolx. good point. smile.gif

i dont think companies are following the salary survey by robert walters/kelly services/etc. they tend to give lower..

by the way, what is his base salary in KL?
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my basic in kl is RM4800.
anyway i think ill take up the offer. will sign the letter and fax to them. most important now is for me to be near my fiance. maybe once i'm there i can think about better opportunity. since it took me 2 years to get this, who knows how much longer i have to wait if i pass this up. maybe it'll be better once i'm there.

thanks guys for the help and advice. see u all there soon smile.gif
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post Mar 22 2012, 02:23 PM

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hi guys. ive to undergo a medical check up in singapore soon. i am still working in Kl.. i understand that after the medical checkup we need to submit the report to EPSC. can all this be done in one day? can the medical result be ready in one day?
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post Mar 22 2012, 08:40 PM

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hiv test only $120? walao with xray then should be around $200? gosh!
rm500 for medical check up. faint ;(

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