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post Jan 28 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 28 2012, 01:22 PM)
Sorry a little off topic but I've always been against Synology prices. You pay a premium for what something that you can DIY or get at a fraction of the cost.

What MB/s throughput are you getting from those drives?

Anyway, during the long holidays, I dusted and resurrected out my old Q6600 workhorse desktop with 3 x 750GB Samsung F1 hardisk which has not been used for 2 years.

Anyway, did a quick bench on the RAID 0 150GB partition from the 3 drives.

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Not too shabby in the midst of SSD drives and furthermore with my mobo still on SATA 2.
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Unfortunately it isn't SSD's read/write that is what sets it apart from HDDs. It is its access times, which can hit below 0.1ms, something that HDDs can't ever hope to touch. For certain situations, this very low access times can provide a performance improve well above 50x the fastest RAID arrays of HDDs can ever hope to achieve.

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post Jan 29 2012, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Jan 28 2012, 09:02 PM)
Unfortunately it isn't SSD's read/write that is what sets it apart from HDDs. It is its access times, which can hit below 0.1ms, something that HDDs can't ever hope to touch. For certain situations, this very low access times can provide a performance improve well above 50x the fastest RAID arrays of HDDs can ever hope to achieve.
Yes, thanks for the reminder. I am fully aware of this and one of the primary reasons why I run M4 SSDs on my notebooks.
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post Jan 29 2012, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 27 2012, 08:04 PM)
5-bay X 3TB = 15TB? hmm.gif
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In RAID5... you get 12TB only.

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post Jan 29 2012, 04:19 PM

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Now Seagate Barracuda hard drives come with 1 year warratny...? I asked at Viewnet this morning, they told me only 1 year. rclxub.gif

Edit: Found my answer, and it's true. sad.gif

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post Jan 29 2012, 07:01 PM

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Gratz with V4.

Btw, when will the HDD price back to normal?
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post Jan 29 2012, 07:16 PM

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Guys, my 3 years old Maxtor Basics 1TB shows the status "Caution" using CrystalDiskInfo.

The only yellow color warning is located at :

ID 05
Attribute Name: Reallocated Sectors Count
Current: 100
Worst : 100
Treshold :36

Is this bad or can it be fixed? If not, RMA the drive? It comes with 5 years of warranty. Good until Dec 2013. Just dont want it to fail suddenly and lose my data.
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post Jan 29 2012, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(jon89 @ Jan 29 2012, 04:19 PM)
Now Seagate Barracuda hard drives come with 1 year warratny...? I asked at Viewnet this morning, they told me only 1 year. rclxub.gif

Edit: Found my answer, and it's true. sad.gif
1 year with Viewnet. But have you gone to Seagate's website and check the warranty status on your hard disk? You key in the serial number and it tells you the expiry date.


Added on January 29, 2012, 8:20 pm
QUOTE(kembar4 @ Jan 29 2012, 07:16 PM)
Guys, my 3 years old Maxtor Basics 1TB shows the status "Caution" using CrystalDiskInfo.

The only yellow color warning is located at :
ID 05
Attribute Name: Reallocated Sectors Count
Current: 100
Worst : 100
Treshold :36

Is this bad or can it be fixed? If not, RMA the drive? It comes with 5 years of warranty. Good until Dec 2013. Just dont want it to fail suddenly and lose my data.
Dec 2013 is nearly 2 years away. Still a long time.

No idea if it's bad or not. But I know what you should do. Go to Seagate's website, download Seatools for Windows. Run the long test on your hard disk. It should clear any errors. (If there are too many errors, it will say so, in which case you can return the hard disk). Otherwise, wait a few months, check again. if no new problems develop, you're fine.

BTW: IINM, the new Seatools just silently "repair" bad sectors. The old version tells you if there are bad sectors, and then ask you if you want to "fix" them. WD's Data Lifeguard diagnostic for windows also works on Seagate drives, and does tell you if errors are found, before repairing them. You might prefer to use that instead. Or the free HDD scan utility's surface scan.

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ytd my fren go viewnet collect back her rma WD black RE4 500gb but she being told to top up just RM40 to get a brand new 1tb WD black RE4, really worth it i guess. drool.gif

QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Jan 28 2012, 01:32 PM)
nowadays its hard to find latest mobo that has an ide port hmm.gif
so its always a better idea to go for sata than ide
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my asus p8h67-m just bought last yr aug got ide port.
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Hi guys this is first time im gonna RMA my harddisk... but browsing the below makes me confuse~~

http://websupport.wdc.com/warranty/rmainfo.asp?rnd=02205927

If anyone of you had ever RMA WD please guide me okay?

Heres what im gonna do: RMA 2 WD Green 1.0TB and 1.5TB.
Problem: Both harddisk there is some partition that will always prompt to chkdsk everytime log to win7 (error missing sector). I always skip because after scan few times, also prompt.

Following this website, they will come pickup but charge my credit card?
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QUOTE(BAlm @ Jan 29 2012, 11:18 PM)
Hi guys this is first time im gonna RMA my harddisk... but browsing the below makes me confuse~~

http://websupport.wdc.com/warranty/rmainfo.asp?rnd=02205927

If anyone of you had ever RMA WD please guide me okay?

Heres what im gonna do: RMA 2 WD Green 1.0TB and 1.5TB.
Problem: Both harddisk there is some partition that will always prompt to chkdsk everytime log to  win7 (error missing sector). I always skip because after scan few times, also prompt.

Following this website, they will come pickup but charge my credit card?
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yup, they will charge your credit card if your hard disk is > 6 months.
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Just dl-ed data lifeguard and run on 1.5TB green..... as expected.. CANNOT COMPLETE lol.

The problem with this drive is always hang halfway during accessing...problem of the "green" technology? hmmmm

I will refrain from buying WD Green anymore since both green are the only HDD i had that fail on me and need RMA

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post Jan 29 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(BAlm @ Jan 29 2012, 11:35 PM)
Just dl-ed data lifeguard and run on 1.5TB green..... as expected.. CANNOT COMPLETE lol.

The problem with this drive is always hang halfway during accessing...problem of the "green" technology? hmmmm

I will refrain from buying WD Green anymore since both green are the only HDD i had that fail on me and need RMA
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I have two Greens, WD10EADS, that have been with me for almost three years. Their warranties expire this year. *touch wood*


Added on January 30, 2012, 12:40 amI have added dkk's information to the first post and linked back both of his informative posts. Thanks a lot dkk! notworthy.gif

I've also removed the Western Digital warranty policy link as it seems to be out of date.

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QUOTE(dkk @ Jan 29 2012, 08:10 PM)
1 year with Viewnet. But have you gone to Seagate's website and check the warranty status on your hard disk? You key in the serial number and it tells you the expiry date.
Yup, already done that. It expires on March 2013. Hard disk manufactured date is on Jan 2012. So yea, only 1 year warranty.
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QUOTE(BAlm @ Jan 29 2012, 11:18 PM)
Heres what im gonna do: RMA 2 WD Green 1.0TB and 1.5TB.
Problem: Both harddisk there is some partition that will always prompt to chkdsk everytime log to  win7 (error missing sector). I always skip because after scan few times, also prompt.
*DO NOT RMA*. Your's is a Windows problem. Use Google. This problem is described in so many different places.

http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-suppor...y-computer.html

http://forums.techarena.in/windows-xp-support/662850.htm

To know whether you should RMA a hard disk, first download the diagnostic utility from the hard disk manufacturer. Then run it.


Added on January 30, 2012, 5:09 am
QUOTE(BAlm @ Jan 29 2012, 11:35 PM)
Just dl-ed data lifeguard and run on 1.5TB green..... as expected.. CANNOT COMPLETE lol.
In that case, go ahead and RMA. smile.gif

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New Toys from Akihabara

Hitachi new release 3.5 inch HDD.

4TB HDD with 7200 RPM.

Price: 28,800 // RM1,141.82

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The price turn me off sad.gif
BTW with my favourite file sharing deactivated,its harder for me to backup my files.


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[Question]
Striped volume vs RAID-5

I have 1 SSD as OS and 3 * 1TB.
The reason I didn't set them on RAID is because I need AHCI mode to ensure my SSD running at optimum.
Question is, should I go back to RAID mode and RAID-5 my 3 storage instead of doing Striped Volume in Windows 7?
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post Jan 31 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Jan 30 2012, 12:39 PM)
New Toys from Akihabara

Hitachi new release 3.5 inch HDD.

4TB HDD with 7200 RPM.

Price: 28,800 // RM1,141.82

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Notice you posted this before a while back... But it's still not available here. sad.gif

QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Jan 31 2012, 05:52 PM)
[Question]
Striped volume vs RAID-5

I have 1 SSD as OS and 3 * 1TB.
The reason I didn't set them on RAID is because I need AHCI mode to ensure my SSD running at optimum.
Question is, should I go back to RAID mode and RAID-5 my 3 storage instead of doing Striped Volume in Windows 7?
Are you running critical data that you require RAID 5?

Put the 3 drives in a separate NAS box and run it as eSATA or as Gigabit.
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Old one was 5200 RPM....this new one was 7200 RPM
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QUOTE(BAlm @ Jan 29 2012, 11:18 PM)
Hi guys this is first time im gonna RMA my harddisk... but browsing the below makes me confuse~~

http://websupport.wdc.com/warranty/rmainfo.asp?rnd=02205927

If anyone of you had ever RMA WD please guide me okay?

Heres what im gonna do: RMA 2 WD Green 1.0TB and 1.5TB.
Problem: Both harddisk there is some partition that will always prompt to chkdsk everytime log to  win7 (error missing sector). I always skip because after scan few times, also prompt.

Following this website, they will come pickup but charge my credit card?
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whatever it is, don't ever let them charge your credit card unless you wanna be cheated by them.
you can read my case here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2203437&hl=

which they have kept my money and did nothing!


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