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siauann
post Feb 9 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Feb 8 2012, 08:20 AM)
i got one external WD HDD..passport...
yday i copy some files from my office pc...when i reach home and plug in my laptop the hdd cannot be read...after a while it shows "drive not formatted"
if i format sure all things gone! what can i do?
today i reach office plug in my office pc still the same. try colleague pc still the same.. sad.gif
i dunno if this can be discuss here. anyone can help>?
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any hdd expert can help me? cry.gif
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post Feb 9 2012, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 9 2012, 03:17 PM)
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WAAAAAAY too hot. 
That's critical levels of a temperature that can be sustained by a HDD.

No HDD should ever go above 50c at load.
Give or take, even in a notebook... a HDD shouldn't be hotter than 55c (even at 50c, that's way too hot).
Your HDD could be toasted anytime at 70c.
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So what i gonna to do? I have 2 hdd in my computer, one is around 34c and another one around 65c, so i think my cooling system is ok. I want to know wat causes the hdd become so hot.
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post Feb 9 2012, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(samkian @ Feb 9 2012, 12:20 PM)
I'm now using a WD 160GB hdd and its temperature can reach up to 70°C. Is it normal or too hot? What is the maximum safe temperature for hdd?
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It could be a faulty temperature sensor. The WD2500KS (250GB capacity) is known to report it incorrectly by around 19°C higher, but I am not sure about the 160GB series. You could try touching your HDD gently to test its real temperature. I think anything above 60°C would be unbearably hot to the slightest touch. If it is just tolerably warmer to the touch, it may be below 50°C or you are quite used to handling hot stuff.


Added on February 9, 2012, 6:15 pmI just thought of a less painful method to test.

Put your computer on standby/sleep. Let your HDDs cool down to room temperature (either let it sleep for a few hours or test with your hand). Wake up your machine and immediately examine the temperature report. If it is immediately ~20°C higher, then you know that the temperature report is faulty.

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post Feb 9 2012, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Feb 9 2012, 04:16 PM)
any hdd expert can help me?  cry.gif
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Could be a faulty USB cable that causes the issue?
Could also be the connector.

Do you hear any strange noises from the external HDD when it's turned on? Like clicking or screeching noises?


QUOTE(samkian @ Feb 9 2012, 05:21 PM)
So what i gonna to do? I have 2 hdd in my computer, one is around 34c and another one around 65c, so i think my cooling system is ok. I want to know wat causes the hdd become so hot.
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Do what everling suggested:


QUOTE(everling @ Feb 9 2012, 06:11 PM)
It could be a faulty temperature sensor. The WD2500KS (250GB capacity) is known to report it incorrectly by around 19°C higher, but I am not sure about the 160GB series. You could try touching your HDD gently to test its real temperature. I think anything above 60°C would be unbearably hot to the slightest touch. If it is just tolerably warmer to the touch, it may be below 50°C or you are quite used to handling hot stuff.


Added on February 9, 2012, 6:15 pmI just thought of a less painful method to test.

Put your computer on standby/sleep. Let your HDDs cool down to room temperature (either let it sleep for a few hours or test with your hand). Wake up your machine and immediately examine the temperature report. If it is immediately ~20°C higher, then you know that the temperature report is faulty.
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post Feb 9 2012, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 9 2012, 07:23 PM)
Could be a faulty USB cable that causes the issue?
Could also be the connector.

Do you hear any strange noises from the external HDD when it's turned on? Like clicking or screeching noises?
no strange noise. got led light and hdd is spinning. no strange noise. no screeching noise.
i'll try changing the cable
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whistling.gif i want to buy an external hdd but searching for the website..found samsung...seagate and western digital is the best..

hmm..asking for comment..which of them is better to buy??
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post Feb 12 2012, 12:42 PM

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hi guys how to determine the speed of external hardisk, besides the 5400rpm n 7200rpm...?
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post Feb 12 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(eddytan95 @ Feb 10 2012, 05:32 PM)
whistling.gif i want to buy an external hdd but searching for the website..found samsung...seagate and western digital is the best..

hmm..asking for comment..which of them is better to buy??
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None of them really stands out.
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post Feb 12 2012, 11:35 PM

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Guys, I've been roaming around digital mall and alot of IT shops in selangor except lowyat. Seems like there is no supply for 2.5" momentus XT hard disk. some don't even sell 2.5" is there shortage? Hope someone can enlighten me.
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wake up this morning, open my laptop only to discover it has failed on me T_T ... anyone here can recommend me a place to recover my data back?
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post Feb 13 2012, 10:55 AM

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I don't recall of anyone reporting a successful data recovery through a data recovery service. I suppose it might be because they're simply very expensive, so most forumers didn't bothered.
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QUOTE(everling @ Feb 13 2012, 10:55 AM)
I don't recall of anyone reporting a successful data recovery through a data recovery service. I suppose it might be because they're simply very expensive, so most forumers didn't bothered.
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ya, thought so.. cry.gif

one company replied my email asking for 1.2k minimum and might gone up to 3k sweat.gif

but if they cannot recover it, they won't charge.. but the condition of the HDD sent might worsen sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Feb 13 2012, 11:09 AM

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My WD3200BEVT Scorpio Blue laptop HDD is also running at 50c constantly which I'm quite worried. In fact it has been averaging 50c-55c and sometimes as high as 59c for over a year...

I understand that normal temperature for the HDD should be around 30 to 40 but then there's really nothing much I can do, even after I cleaned the dust the temperature doesn't seem to be affected much, wonder what's the problem with it, anyone has a similar experience?

Laptop Lenovo G450 if it matters...
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Feb 13 2012, 11:09 AM)
My WD3200BEVT Scorpio Blue laptop HDD is also running at 50c constantly which I'm quite worried. In fact it has been averaging 50c-55c and sometimes as high as 59c for over a year...

I understand that normal temperature for the HDD should be around 30 to 40 but then there's really nothing much I can do, even after I cleaned the dust the temperature doesn't seem to be affected much, wonder what's the problem with it, anyone has a similar experience?

Laptop Lenovo G450 if it matters...
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Generally, even in a laptop... your HDD shouldn't be running above 50c.
Honestly, not much you can do.

It could also be a sensor fault as well on reading the temps.
Try a few different temp monitors and see if they fluctuate significantly alot or not between them.

Other than that, backup your important info regularly.
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QUOTE(eone @ Feb 13 2012, 11:02 AM)
ya, thought so..  cry.gif

one company replied my email asking for 1.2k minimum and might gone up to 3k  sweat.gif

but if they cannot recover it, they won't charge.. but the condition of the HDD sent might worsen  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Well, if that option is out, then you could try recovering the data yourself. There are a number of methods that are known to work and I have tried the freezing trick myself to recover 80% of my data.
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hi guys omagaandot, i want buy ext hdd 500g how to determine the tramission speed? can any1 help me...pulesss...
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QUOTE(omegaend @ Feb 13 2012, 11:47 PM)
hi guys omagaandot, i want buy ext hdd 500g how to determine the tramission speed? can any1 help me...pulesss...
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did you mean 500gb transfer speed?

if so, use hdd benchmark tools/utilities. simple as that.

to choose which hdd, suggest you to ask seller. most of them do not have guarantee on the speed. but some product do state it speed on packaging. if the seller fine enough. they may suggest to you based on their own experience.
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choose external hdd with usb3 or thunderbolt if you have more money biggrin.gif
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post Feb 14 2012, 09:47 PM

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hi guys i want to buy ext hdd 500g how to determine the speed i means beside 5400 n 7200rpm,, what else do i need to look for...
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post Feb 14 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(omegaend @ Feb 14 2012, 09:47 PM)
hi guys i want to buy ext hdd 500g how to determine the speed i means beside 5400 n 7200rpm,, what else do i need to look for...
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If you do not have USB 3.0, then there is no need to think about 5400 or 7200 RPM because, cheap or expensive, you'll be limited to about 30 megabyte/s.

As for determining a given external HDD's performance, you will need to read up benchmarks and reviews for it because it is the only way to know, short of actually doing the performance tests yourself. All the specifications listed are not very meaningful. There are 5400 RPM HDDs that can outperform 7200 RPM HDDs on certain tests* and the 32MB or 64MB cache size is meaningless.

If you are on a budget, it will be best to stick to your budget and buy something that you can afford.

* I'll admit that you'll need to compare a current generation 5400 RPM HDD with a 7200 RPM from a few years ago to find such a situation.

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