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post Jan 26 2012, 06:17 PM

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Download Hitachi's diagnostic utility. It's called Drive Fitness Test. Burn it to a CDR, and boot from that. It should "fix" (ie mark) the bad sectors.

http://www.hitachigst.com/support/downloads/#DFT

There's a link on that same page to check warranty expiration date. Key in the serial number, and it shows the expiration date. The serial number is printed physically on the hard disk. There are also utilities that will show the serial number. (Seagate's Seatools for Windows and WD's wdlg both do, and they also sometimes works on other brand's hard disks. It's usually better to use the manufacturer's own utility though, if it's available).

I also use this free utility that can do surface scan reads, and shows the time it takes to read each block. Blocks that takes a very long time to read might have problems.

http://hddscan.com/

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post Jan 27 2012, 09:45 PM

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A few years ago, before SATA existed, IDE's advantage is that it exists and SATA did not.

A short while after that, you can get SATA hard disks, but all CD/DVD drives were still IDE.

If you have a very old m/b, with one IDE + 2 SATA sockets, and you already have 2 SATA hard disks, then the advantage of IDE is that you already have a free socket, which can support 2 devices.

Otherwise, there's no reason to buy new hard disk / DVD / CD drives with IDE instead of SATA.
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post Jan 29 2012, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(jon89 @ Jan 29 2012, 04:19 PM)
Now Seagate Barracuda hard drives come with 1 year warratny...? I asked at Viewnet this morning, they told me only 1 year. rclxub.gif

Edit: Found my answer, and it's true. sad.gif
1 year with Viewnet. But have you gone to Seagate's website and check the warranty status on your hard disk? You key in the serial number and it tells you the expiry date.


Added on January 29, 2012, 8:20 pm
QUOTE(kembar4 @ Jan 29 2012, 07:16 PM)
Guys, my 3 years old Maxtor Basics 1TB shows the status "Caution" using CrystalDiskInfo.

The only yellow color warning is located at :
ID 05
Attribute Name: Reallocated Sectors Count
Current: 100
Worst : 100
Treshold :36

Is this bad or can it be fixed? If not, RMA the drive? It comes with 5 years of warranty. Good until Dec 2013. Just dont want it to fail suddenly and lose my data.
Dec 2013 is nearly 2 years away. Still a long time.

No idea if it's bad or not. But I know what you should do. Go to Seagate's website, download Seatools for Windows. Run the long test on your hard disk. It should clear any errors. (If there are too many errors, it will say so, in which case you can return the hard disk). Otherwise, wait a few months, check again. if no new problems develop, you're fine.

BTW: IINM, the new Seatools just silently "repair" bad sectors. The old version tells you if there are bad sectors, and then ask you if you want to "fix" them. WD's Data Lifeguard diagnostic for windows also works on Seagate drives, and does tell you if errors are found, before repairing them. You might prefer to use that instead. Or the free HDD scan utility's surface scan.

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post Jan 30 2012, 05:08 AM

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QUOTE(BAlm @ Jan 29 2012, 11:18 PM)
Heres what im gonna do: RMA 2 WD Green 1.0TB and 1.5TB.
Problem: Both harddisk there is some partition that will always prompt to chkdsk everytime log to  win7 (error missing sector). I always skip because after scan few times, also prompt.
*DO NOT RMA*. Your's is a Windows problem. Use Google. This problem is described in so many different places.

http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-suppor...y-computer.html

http://forums.techarena.in/windows-xp-support/662850.htm

To know whether you should RMA a hard disk, first download the diagnostic utility from the hard disk manufacturer. Then run it.


Added on January 30, 2012, 5:09 am
QUOTE(BAlm @ Jan 29 2012, 11:35 PM)
Just dl-ed data lifeguard and run on 1.5TB green..... as expected.. CANNOT COMPLETE lol.
In that case, go ahead and RMA. smile.gif

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post Feb 2 2012, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(Shufflerz @ Feb 1 2012, 12:04 AM)
What's the meaning of critical data?
I don't want separate drives it look "messy" where you have D E F and you don't know where to put what.
Spoken like a person who has never had to reformat and reinstall his OS every 3 months or so because of virus, worms, etc. smile.gif
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post Feb 16 2012, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Feb 16 2012, 04:25 PM)
Anyone knows if Buffalo manufactures their own hard disk, or buys it from another manufacturer?
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post Feb 17 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(kembar4 @ Feb 17 2012, 06:25 PM)
If your HDD is the standard non-external HDD, then you need to wrap it in electro static plastic. I am not sure if anyone here have tried without it. Its a big risk though since they might send the drive back to you without any replacement. Put it in a electro static bag and then put it in a bag. Insulate it with padding (sponge / newspapers) so the hdd doesn't move around when in transit.  Put all of them in a box and print out the label from WDD website (when you claim from RMA they'll give you a link to print the label). Attach the label to the box and you're good to go.
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I just put the HD in the bag m/b comes in. If you don't have any, I suppose you could go to computer shops and see if they have any in the trash from the new computers they've assembled for other customers.

Then put the whole thing in a DVD drive box. HDs are a lot smaller than DVD drives, so the built in padding is not enough. So I just pour in lots of packing peanuts. There are lots of those in my office, arrives every week from when suppliers sends us stuff. You could also use bubble wrap, newspapers, trash from the paper shredder, etc.


Added on February 17, 2012, 10:01 pm
QUOTE(kelvyn @ Feb 17 2012, 03:32 PM)
From what I was told, Buffalo used to use Samsung HDD inside
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Thanks. When I was looking for an external HD last month, I saw that Buffalo was cheaper than WD and Seagate. I would have bought it if I had known it was Samsung. But when I asked the shop, they said "don't know". So I bought Seagate instead.

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post Mar 20 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Mar 19 2012, 09:16 PM)
My best advice is DO NOT DO IT, the chances to recover your data through this method is very low, since open the board itself will indirectly expose the disk to surrounding air.
and the disk is VERY SENSITIVE to any particle in the air..
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usually no. just removing the board would not break the airtight seal. i've done a few myself. it's only worked twice.

1) it only works if it's the board that is damaged. Not the internal mechanism. Usually it isn't the board that's faulty. That only happens in some special instances, eg power surge, or technician's error accidentally shorting it out while connecting the hard disk without shutting down the power supply.

2) the board must be identical. This means it's not enough to just match the hard disk model number, as each model typically goes through a few revisions. It's practically impossible in a home environment. Where are you going to find another identical hard disk. It's sometimes possible in an office environment, where there are many computers lying around. Especially if you usually buy a number of hard disks at the same time. They will probably have the same board.
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post Mar 21 2012, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Mar 20 2012, 10:20 AM)
Maybe you can help arthur88 to change the HDD PCB  as well tongue.gif
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There's nothing to it. You just remove the screws. It comes straight off. The trick is in finding a matching board. smile.gif
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post Mar 22 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Mar 22 2012, 10:42 AM)
Because finding matching board is like finding grain of salt in desert, it's not easy as just buy and replace.
Read a page or 2 back and you should see there's only few percentage of working ones.
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I agree. It's practically impossible to find. Just send for RMA.

My experience was from office. In our office, we usually buy a couple of hard disk at a time. The twin was already in the office.

And it still is a data-recovery thing. We're not actually fixing the hard disk here. Just getting the data off. Because even after we found the matching board on another hard disk, we now have 1 board, and 2 hard disks ... smile.gif
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post Jun 1 2012, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 1 2012, 02:13 AM)
I have an external 3.5" 2TB HDD USB 3.0 (WD My Book Essentials). Is it possible to convert it into a desktop HDD? How much would the casing be and all? Thanks!
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Desktop hard disks don't need casing. They install inside the computer casing. You may already have the power cable. All desktops have. It's just a question of whether you have an available (unused) one. You'll probably need a SATA cable. Some desktops have extra ones as well. Open up your computer casing and check.
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post Jun 25 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 25 2012, 04:27 PM)
LOL, now that's human natural disaster, just be sure the component is put inside a solid chassis and put on proper solid place (floor is the best) and away from your naughty leg, strong subwoofer, and those curiosity children.
And lastly, input power, uses a good quality PSU and protect it using a good UPS+AVR.
There's just so much to spend to protect your important data, now if you don't mind making backup everyday, invest on external HDD to backup is the cheaper solution and keep them at cold and dry place. whistling.gif
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There's always theft and fire! Nothing beats off-site backup. smile.gif
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post Jun 26 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Jun 26 2012, 02:49 PM)
Off-site doesn't mean it is on the cloud. It means that the backup copy is not located in the same building or site. It may be stored offline (not powered) or online (powered and accessible to a computer), but doesn't say if the backup may be accessible over the internet or not.
My off-site backup is in my house. smile.gif It's a very good location.

There's a couple of km separating the two locations. It is far enough apart that a fire could not destroy both locations (other than airplanes bombing us).

It's close enough to easily make copies of the backup and bring it to the office.

Our country do not suffer from building-destroying earthquakes.

And the location of my house is such that it is impossible for it to be flooded.

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post Nov 10 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(BlackWoods @ Nov 10 2012, 02:19 PM)
I still think Samsung HDD is the best, WD is popular but too expensive and the performance is not really good.
I have a Carvier Green and a Passport which perform not so well.
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Seagate lands Samsung's hard drive unit for $1.37 billion: It's duopoly time

Note the time, it was from April 2011.
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post Jan 8 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(ITLearner @ Jan 8 2013, 01:09 PM)
why i didnt born in west malaysia
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There is absolutely no benefit to being born in west malaysia, as opposed to east malaysia. In fact, there are some advantages to being born in east malaysia.

Living in west malaysia though is a different matter. But that is something you can fix.
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post Jan 24 2013, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(92alvin @ Jan 24 2013, 04:00 PM)
Hi, i have a question.
I just bought a new rig comes with a ssd n hdd.
So, i installed OS in my ssd.
But whenever i click in Computer, it only shows Local Disk C, which is my ssd only. it doesnt show my hdd.
So how do i make it appear?
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Assuming it is already correctly connected, it probably needs to be initialized (partititioned) and formatted.

Control Panel > Admin Tools > Computer Management > Disk Management
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post Apr 17 2013, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(manwarfare95 @ Apr 16 2013, 10:02 PM)
Guys, when i want to check my wd warranty, it asked me for my serial number, where to find that?
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It's printed on the hard disk on the label. Take it out of the computer and you can see it. There are also many programs that will read it electronically. Like WD's own diagnostic program. http://support.wdc.com/product/download.as...6&sid=3&lang=en

If you don't already have those programs on your computer, it's much easier to just take out the hard disk and eyeball the number. smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 10 2014, 11:48 AM)
Ahhh I also donno how to describe it. Basically when place the drive on my system, I'm allow to allocate only up to 4GB storage space. The additional 2GB, I can't create partition on.
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2GB limits are from the previous CENTURY! Is this some ancient computer?
Or did you accidentally make the partition type FAT16?

 

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