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deejay220989
post Sep 27 2013, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(faisal_smks03 @ Sep 25 2013, 08:57 AM)
In the end, it's up to you to make the decision. Just giving my opinion smile.gif
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Yeah I know smile.gif

I would like to get more opinions, if I should just get a simple 3.5 inch external HDD, or get a WD Red/Black + external case. I usually stored 1080p movies and I don't like to lose them >.<

Of course getting a WD Red/Black + external case is much more expensive, but is it worthy? Need some advice smile.gif

I also thought of going for 2 WD Red and do a RAID 1..but that costs more haha sad.gif

EDIT: Also, I read that WD Red is more for 24/7 usage. Since I'm just doing backup, is it really necessary or worth it to get WD Red?

This post has been edited by deejay220989: Sep 27 2013, 06:04 AM
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post Sep 27 2013, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(deejay220989 @ Sep 27 2013, 05:43 AM)
Yeah I know smile.gif

I would like to get more opinions, if I should just get a simple 3.5 inch external HDD, or get a WD Red/Black + external case. I usually stored 1080p movies and I don't like to lose them >.<

Of course getting a WD Red/Black + external case is much more expensive, but is it worthy? Need some advice smile.gif

I also thought of going for 2 WD Red and do a RAID 1..but that costs more haha sad.gif

EDIT: Also, I read that WD Red is more for 24/7 usage. Since I'm just doing backup, is it really necessary or worth it to get WD Red?
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What's your budget of spending on these? And what capacity are you looking at?
Those play big different in setting up your personal storage, be it USB or NAS.
If you want to go cheap, you can buy 2 USB storage and have them copy the same thing but more works to be done since you're copying twice but this save you from paying another amount for NAS, NAS can range from RM300~600 for 2 bays depends on the brand and model you choose.
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post Sep 27 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 27 2013, 08:47 AM)
What's your budget of spending on these? And what capacity are you looking at?
Those play big different in setting up your personal storage, be it USB or NAS.
If you want to go cheap, you can buy 2 USB storage and have them copy the same thing but more works to be done since you're copying twice but this save you from paying another amount for NAS, NAS can range from RM300~600 for 2 bays depends on the brand and model you choose.
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I'm not quite sure about budget yet, but I would like to know if it makes much much difference between the 2 setups smile.gif

I'm looking at 2TB.

I'm not using for NAS, just backup purposes, so is WD Red suitable for me? Or just get the normal external HDD?

I'm looking at Hotway 2-bay RAID enclosure, I think its the most common for now:
http://www.hotway.com.tw/products/hur1-su3s2-spec.htm

Hmm..its a good idea to just get 2 HDDs and copy the same thing! Yes, more works need to be done, but its not that I have to be in front of my comp when I copy/paste those files. Just the syncing part that I need to worry about (if I delete or rename any files, I need to do it at both HDDs)
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post Sep 29 2013, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(deejay220989 @ Sep 27 2013, 05:53 PM)
I'm not quite sure about budget yet, but I would like to know if it makes much much difference between the 2 setups smile.gif

I'm looking at 2TB.

I'm not using for NAS, just backup purposes, so is WD Red suitable for me? Or just get the normal external HDD?

I'm looking at Hotway 2-bay RAID enclosure, I think its the most common for now:
http://www.hotway.com.tw/products/hur1-su3s2-spec.htm

Hmm..its a good idea to just get 2 HDDs and copy the same thing! Yes, more works need to be done, but its not that I have to be in front of my comp when I copy/paste those files. Just the syncing part that I need to worry about (if I delete or rename any files, I need to do it at both HDDs)
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hmm.gif No budget, so you can spend extra right? Then go for RAID1 setup with 2x 2TB, any NAS should be suitable for you.
But the external USB HDD can be handy as well for extra backup purpose, RAID1 simply mirror what you have on to both HDD so if there's any mistake or unnatural disaster (virus, accidental delete, etc.) then your data is "bye-bye", so keeping "extra" backup is always a good practice if you value your data.
RAID1 only useful if you afraid of losing data "on-the-fly" (sudden HDD failure, bad sectors, etc.)

Hope this info helps you decide. wink.gif
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post Sep 30 2013, 07:38 PM

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i have some questions abt ssd and hhd constellation

my harddisk spoiled again today, everyyear have to buy 1....without any reason cry.gif

between ssd and hhd constellation, which 1 can be last longer?

i got 2 spoiled hhd in my desktop as storage....

plan to buy can last longer....
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post Oct 1 2013, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(QianLiang @ Sep 30 2013, 07:38 PM)
i have some questions abt ssd and hhd constellation

my harddisk spoiled again today, everyyear have to buy 1....without any reason cry.gif

between ssd and hhd constellation, which 1 can be last longer?

i got 2 spoiled hhd in my desktop as storage....

plan to buy can last longer....
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Give more detail on your desktop specs so more guru here can help you.
Good PSU can warrant longer HDD lifespan but sometimes it's just luck I guess doh.gif
SSD however may also suffer for the same, possibly even worst when it comes to blackout/electric shock situation.
Buy good PSU, protected by a good UPS and your system may last longer than you possibly imagine.

p/s: Just like buying insurance for your home, car, and yourself, PC needs insurance as well. wink.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 1 2013, 01:48 PM)
Give more detail on your desktop specs so more guru here can help you.
Good PSU can warrant longer HDD lifespan but sometimes it's just luck I guess doh.gif
SSD however may also suffer for the same, possibly even worst when it comes to blackout/electric shock situation.
Buy good PSU, protected by a good UPS and your system may last longer than you possibly imagine.

p/s: Just like buying insurance for your home, car, and yourself, PC needs insurance as well. wink.gif
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i think there is sufficient power to hdd...


if bad PSU, the graphic card will spoil as well?
last year my gc spoil without any reason too...

This post has been edited by QianLiang: Oct 1 2013, 09:17 PM
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post Oct 2 2013, 02:21 PM

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Hi guys, forgive me if this is the wrong section to post for this question.

My WD HDD recently became faulty (windows asks to format when plugged in) but I managed to pull out the important data with recovery software.

The question now is: Can I write zero before sending it back to the shop I bought to RMA? It's still within the 3 year warranty. I'm worried if the shop will not replace since write zero might "fix" the problem I'm having now.
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post Oct 2 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(lerrymaru @ Oct 2 2013, 03:21 PM)
Hi guys, forgive me if this is the wrong section to post for this question.

My WD HDD recently became faulty (windows asks to format when plugged in) but I managed to pull out the important data with recovery software.

The question now is: Can I write zero before sending it back to the shop I bought to RMA? It's still within the 3 year warranty. I'm worried if the shop will not replace since write zero might "fix" the problem I'm having now.
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Better to zero b4 send otherwise your P&C info is there.

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post Oct 3 2013, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(QianLiang @ Oct 1 2013, 09:07 PM)
AMD Phenom II X2 B55
asrock 970 extreme 3
normal ram 8g
enermax 650W 80+ bronze
nvidia GT 220

i think there is sufficient power to hdd...
if bad PSU, the graphic card will spoil as well?
last year my gc spoil without any reason too...
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PSU looks good, but I'm still not so sure about the input power source, home's electricity does play another role.
How old is your PSU?

QUOTE(lerrymaru @ Oct 2 2013, 02:21 PM)
Hi guys, forgive me if this is the wrong section to post for this question.

My WD HDD recently became faulty (windows asks to format when plugged in) but I managed to pull out the important data with recovery software.

The question now is: Can I write zero before sending it back to the shop I bought to RMA? It's still within the 3 year warranty. I'm worried if the shop will not replace since write zero might "fix" the problem I'm having now.
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Yes, you may writes zeroes to the HDD in case you need to protect your P&C stuff.
You may also check the SMART (HDDScan) after write zeroes to check for any "...sector" attribute value.
"Reallocated sector count", "Pending sector count", etc. These are few attribute that you need to have a lookout for, otherwise you can post your SMART result here and we all can have a look.
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post Oct 3 2013, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ Oct 2 2013, 04:57 PM)
Better to zero b4 send otherwise your P&C info is there.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 3 2013, 08:59 AM)
Yes, you may writes zeroes to the HDD in case you need to protect your P&C stuff.
You may also check the SMART (HDDScan) after write zeroes to check for any "...sector" attribute value.
"Reallocated sector count", "Pending sector count", etc. These are few attribute that you need to have a lookout for, otherwise you can post your SMART result here and we all can have a look.
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I ran the WD Lifeguard Diagnostics extended scan, no problems. (no bad sectors) I then wrote zero, and then the HDD isn't showing up when plugged in anymore.

I sent it to RMA. Hopefully can replace. :/

Thanks for the help guys.

This post has been edited by lerrymaru: Oct 3 2013, 06:51 PM
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post Oct 4 2013, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 3 2013, 08:59 AM)
PSU looks good, but I'm still not so sure about the input power source, home's electricity does play another role.
How old is your PSU?
Yes, you may writes zeroes to the HDD in case you need to protect your P&C stuff.
You may also check the SMART (HDDScan) after write zeroes to check for any "...sector" attribute value.
"Reallocated sector count", "Pending sector count", etc. These are few attribute that you need to have a lookout for, otherwise you can post your SMART result here and we all can have a look.
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just 1 years +....

im not going to change psu, just buy a new harddisk...coz no budget right now
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anyone know where to claim warranty for Western Digital External HDD MyPassport? I contacted Achieva they said don cover EXT HDD..
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post Oct 4 2013, 02:11 PM

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hi want to ask all pros here

for western digital is it using cavier black to run OS better than using WD green run OS?
performance wise? stability?
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QUOTE(Amy09 @ Oct 4 2013, 02:11 PM)
hi want to ask all pros here

for western digital is it using cavier black to run OS better than using WD green run OS?
performance wise? stability?
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use Black please
Green performance is only suitable for normal storage, and it's also quite unreliable in some cases

I have a WD green that causes system hangups occasionally when used as internal drive. Works fine in an external hdd case. I have a few friends with similar issues too.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 4 2013, 03:08 PM)
use Black please
Green performance is only suitable for normal storage, and it's also quite unreliable in some cases

I have a WD green that causes system hangups occasionally when used as internal drive. Works fine in an external hdd case. I have a few friends with similar issues too.
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ok thanks...coz i also using green alot issue sad.gif
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QUOTE(kamechi @ Oct 4 2013, 10:18 AM)
anyone know where to claim warranty for Western Digital External HDD MyPassport? I contacted Achieva they said don cover EXT HDD..
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Just register here :

https://westerndigital.secure.force.com/

Register your disk, raise RMA then it'll generate barcode label for you which you need to stick on the box and follow their packing instructions.

source from: rjb123
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QUOTE(Amy09 @ Oct 4 2013, 03:23 PM)
ok thanks...coz i also using green alot issue  sad.gif
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you could try getting an external case for the green, should be quite usable like that.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 4 2013, 10:48 PM)
you could try getting an external case for the green, should be quite usable like that.
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