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alvinfks78	May 3 2012, 11:51 AM Return to original view \| Post #1
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Hi all, hope this is the correct forum if not pls let me know. WTA I currently running XP on c: drive and Win7 on e: drive. c: and e: are two different physical drive. I want to remove c: from the computer. Is it okay I just enter Win7 and format c: drive? TQ
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alvinfks78	May 22 2012, 10:07 AM Return to original view \| Post #2
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Er.. I removed one of my HDD from com yesterday and it was hot to hold. Is that bad?
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alvinfks78	May 28 2012, 05:13 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Hi, Is it okay to store the hard disk in the car trunk or under the car seat? will it be too hot?
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alvinfks78	Jun 22 2012, 09:09 AM Return to original view \| Post #4
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Hi All Need some input. My secondary internal HDD today morning got CDC trying to copy from it. THen, I disconnect the primary HDD and boot up with the secondary. After that, I tried to copy the file again okay can copy, can delete and read but noticed there is pause in slight between. To copy a 1g File about 1 minute Speed fan test - short test no errors. Extended test 90% then -> 80% -> have to go to work. My smart is » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Your hard disk is a SAMSUNG HD103SJ with firmware 1AJ10001. The average temperature for this hard disk model is 31°C (min=23°C max=42°C) and yours is 45°C. Throughput Performance 54 0000000022FF Current Pending Sector 100 000000000006 (THe rest is normal. Smart shows Red for these two attributes. ) All of the attributes of your hard disk have normal values. This is good. BLOCKING ISSUE : your hard disk has 6 pending sectors. Those are sectors that couldn't be properly read and that the hard disk logic is waiting for a write operation to try to remap to a spare sector (if available). According to the Reallocated Sector Count attribute, your hard disk seems to have available spare sectors. A simple disk surface scan won't be enough to force the remap operation. You need a read/write surface scan to remap the sector. The best option should be a tool that knows about what should be read from that sector so that it has some option to apply the best fix to the missing data. The overall fitness for this drive is 0%. The overall performance for this drive is 19%. Just move house so PC may goten abit of bump . Thanks for input. This post has been edited by alvinfks78: Jun 22 2012, 11:04 AM
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alvinfks78	Jun 22 2012, 05:24 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 22 2012, 05:09 PM) Hi, according to the attributes, I assume the drive can be save provided you quickly backup the data while you at it, be it another drive or external. Then use Low Level Format software to runs through once, and check the SMART again. Download the program here. If your SMART of the "Pending Sector Count" is 0 after LLF (low level format) then it's good, then check "Reallocated Sector Count", if there's 0 then your drive is still working fine, but keep an eye on it. If somehow your SMART indicate 1 or more on attribute "Reallocated Sector Count" then you should be watching it, if you can perform another LLF and see if that attribute is increasing, if it's then send for RMA immediately (if your warranty still valid), it's an indication of internal hardware failure. Check your Samsung drive warranty here. Thanks for reply. . will try to I think HDD still got warranty bought may 2011.
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alvinfks78	Jun 23 2012, 09:05 AM Return to original view \| Post #6
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 22 2012, 08:36 PM) And oh, before you go on with warranty, Seagate enforced that you must run their SeaTools and get the code to confirm the drive failure for RMA, otherwise Seagate will only ship it back to you at your cost. Yes I realised that when trying to fill up the form Thanks for tip
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alvinfks78	Jul 1 2012, 09:47 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Hi all,I posted earlier about "current pending sectors = 7" errors at my hard disk. I did a LLF and then SMART says 0 current Pending sectors 0 relocation sector count After the LLF, I did a Seagate dos scan (Long DST) & Speedfan scan(extended) found no errors. So, I copy back the data from backup. But now after using 1 week got current pending sectors error = 1: My current SMART is: [attachmentid=2924075] I am not sure if the problem is the HDD or other stuff in the computer. Please with your expertise. Thank you. Update : i did a chkdsk on a few partition. now the current pending sectors is 0 again. Updated Smart is [attachmentid=2924201] very confusing This post has been edited by alvinfks78: Jul 1 2012, 10:38 PM
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alvinfks78	Jul 3 2012, 10:54 AM Return to original view \| Post #8
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Thanks for reply. Had some extra time yesterday to check . This is my full specs » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « GA945-GCMS2L gigabyte motherboard. (3 yrs+) INtel E2180 (3 yrs+) 2 gig ram kingston DDR2-667 (3 yrs+) TV card Winfast TV2000XP RM (2 yrs+) Samsung Spinpoint T3 7200rpm 1tb (1 yrs+) AVF 450w Power supply (3 yrs+) Coolermaster Fan (blow the HDD - just bought 2 days ago) My Smarts Updated Smart [attachmentid=2926759] My Seagate Testools @ Windows 7 failed test » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « [attachmentid=2926761] [attachmentid=2926763] Speedfan & HDDscan read failure & error Seagate testoools @Dos Old Seagate Testools @ Dos Passed Long Test & Failed Short Test. Latest Seagate Testools @ Dos Passed Long Test & passed Short Test History » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « CDC error on reading. Current pending sector count = 1 then, backup and Low level Format Current Pending count = 0, Relocation = 0 Copy back the Backup to hard disk. After one week, all the above error. , The hard disk sometimes slow/sluggish when opening file. But better after install fan and open casing. Hard disk can go 46c - 50c before fan and closed casing. Thanks all for feedback. Please advice to RMA or do a LLF check again? If replace PSU will help? This post has been edited by alvinfks78: Jul 3 2012, 10:57 AM
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alvinfks78	Jul 6 2012, 10:28 AM Return to original view \| Post #9
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Hi all, I posted about my Samsung F3 hard disk problems earlier. In case someone have similar problem, this post seems to help with the problem: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/286342-3...-pending-sector I am still running test but it looks good at the moment. Thank all for help.
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alvinfks78	Jul 13 2012, 04:05 PM Return to original view \| Post #10
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	never heard the brand b4
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alvinfks78	Dec 15 2012, 11:03 PM Return to original view \| Post #11
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Samsung HDD smart shows 5 current pending errors but Speedfan long check and chkdsk /r /b /f shows no problem. How ar?
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alvinfks78	Dec 23 2012, 10:57 AM Return to original view \| Post #12
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ Dec 16 2012, 12:03 AM) Samsung HDD smart shows 5 current pending errors but Speedfan long check and chkdsk /r /b /f shows no problem. How ar? QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 17 2012, 03:50 PM) Try Google for "low level format" tool to deep format the drive to rectify the pending sectors. Note: Backup your Data first before doing so, this method is irreversible, nor can you recover data in anyway. Free version of the tool only allows you to format at 50MB/s so if your hard drive is big then you might need to let it runs overnight or something like that. After your runs it, check the SMART again to verify if there's any "Reallocated Sector Count", if there's none then your drive is fine as it's, but be warn that it might occur again. And if there's still "Pending Sector Count", possible your drive is also having issue, time to send for RMA or if it's already out then plan for a new one, don't try to use it any longer as it might causes lost of data without your realizing it. Good luck Hi all, Need advice, I low level formated the hard disk and got 0 Reallocated Sector count, 0 pending sectors count. Samsung etools found no errors and seagate dos test also passed. So, I reinstalled Windows (using dual-os btw) and drivers and copy back the files but now 0 reallocated sector count 15 pending sectors count Also. Encountered a Cyclical Redundancy check for 1 files when trying to copy throughput performance 47(warn) 1(worst) 0(warn) but this problem here long time already. Is this a sign the drive is bad? BTW I got warranty till April 2013 ( 2yrs warranty) but stated 25 aug 2014 on website(wierd). Thanks all for reply Spec: Samsung 1tb 7200rpm Samsung DVD ram 8g intel processor windows 7(64) c: and windows xp(32) d: 6750 saphhire graphic card xigmatek 500w nrp vac503 This post has been edited by alvinfks78: Dec 23 2012, 01:24 PM
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alvinfks78	Dec 28 2012, 09:19 AM Return to original view \| Post #13
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ Dec 23 2012, 11:57 AM) Hi all, Need advice, I low level formated the hard disk and got 0 Reallocated Sector count, 0 pending sectors count. Samsung etools found no errors and seagate dos test also passed. So, I reinstalled Windows (using dual-os btw) and drivers and copy back the files but now 0 reallocated sector count 15 pending sectors count Also. Encountered a Cyclical Redundancy check for 1 files when trying to copy throughput performance 47(warn) 1(worst) 0(warn) but this problem here long time already. Is this a sign the drive is bad? BTW I got warranty till April 2013 ( 2yrs warranty) but stated 25 aug 2014 on website(wierd). Thanks all for reply Spec: Samsung 1tb 7200rpm Samsung DVD ram 8g intel processor windows 7(64) c: and windows xp(32) d: 6750 saphhire graphic card xigmatek 500w nrp vac503 QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 24 2012, 04:33 PM) If the HDD keeps on giving you errors such as Pending Sectors Count then it's probably sign of failure, backup and send for RMA for the safe side. You can contact their customer support on this case, they may help you to identify this case as special case, and help you RMA your HDD easier. LOL I email Seagate and they reply me with a generic templete letter. at least got some black and white if they question my RMA " thank you for contacting Seagate Technical Support. I am sorry to learn that the drive is showing bad sectors. Please try a Zero Fill using Seatools for DOS. If this does not help please return the drive. If you have important data in the hard drive, you might want to send it for data recovery before you return for replacement. You can choose to send the drive to America for Seagate's data recovery service or alternatively, you can choose a 3rd party vendor in your country." ...........etc
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alvinfks78	Jan 17 2013, 08:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #14
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	How long to RMA samsung HDD. I posted and they confirmed received 29 Dec and website listed as In process. Any ideas? Thanks
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alvinfks78	Jun 11 2013, 11:28 AM Return to original view \| Post #15
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Hello all, My 1tb External Buffalo hard drive have 305 reallocated sector count. It was stuck at 24% chkdsk for 1 hour. I tried to sent to ALL IT for warranty claim last weekend. The warranty technician call me back and said the external drive is fine and good and usable. They will not send it for warranty. Is he correct? I can't find any testing tools for buffalo like WD & Seagate. Thank you for advise. This post has been edited by alvinfks78: Jun 11 2013, 02:22 PM
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alvinfks78	Jun 13 2013, 03:26 PM Return to original view \| Post #16
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(cybersans @ Jun 13 2013, 11:19 AM) buffalo is just "casing's brand". they are use some brands of hard disk, for example, samsung or hitachi or even western digital. you need to know which hard disk were used Actually how to check.......it says Toshiba Buffalo. USB3. PCT 1 tb.
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alvinfks78	Jun 19 2013, 09:59 AM Return to original view \| Post #17
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(rexeagle @ Jun 19 2013, 09:43 AM) did RMA need warranty? Yes. otherwise have to pay for repair not worth it.
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alvinfks78	Oct 2 2013, 04:57 PM Return to original view \| Post #18
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(lerrymaru @ Oct 2 2013, 03:21 PM) Hi guys, forgive me if this is the wrong section to post for this question. My WD HDD recently became faulty (windows asks to format when plugged in) but I managed to pull out the important data with recovery software. The question now is: Can I write zero before sending it back to the shop I bought to RMA? It's still within the 3 year warranty. I'm worried if the shop will not replace since write zero might "fix" the problem I'm having now. Better to zero b4 send otherwise your P&C info is there.
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alvinfks78	Nov 8 2013, 06:35 PM Return to original view \| Post #19
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Got a old Seagate Hard disk. with 5 current pending sector count & 5 uncorrectable sector count. I tried to 1) Low Level format ( HDDLLF.exe) 2) chkdsk /r /f also tried /b Windows 7 3) speedfan extended test - no errors But still SMART data is the same. Any suggestion I can try?TQ This post has been edited by alvinfks78: Nov 8 2013, 07:21 PM
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alvinfks78	Nov 9 2013, 10:50 PM Return to original view \| Post #20
Regular Senior Member 1,127 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(mrbob @ Nov 9 2013, 07:57 AM) There's really nothing much you can do about a HDD that is experiencing uncorrectable sectors except to get a replacement HDD ready in case of failure. You should not put any critical data on the problem HDD and keep monitoring its SMART values. Make sure that you new HDD are well cushioned from vibration etc in the drive cage. Low level formatting etc will just makes things worst. There are plenty of tools that claims that they can revive the HDD which has bad sectors but in reality the chances of creating more uncorrectable sectors are higher in the process of reviving the bad sectors as it stresses the mechnical arm of the HDD. thanks for the tip. Already backup data guess nothing much else I can do for that drive.
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